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UF researchers felt pressure to destroy COVID-19 data, not criticize DeSantis
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Tampa Bay Times

Fear of upsetting state officials is pervasive among faculty at the University of Florida, to the point that race-related references have been edited out of course materials and researchers felt pressure to destroy COVID-19 data, according to a report released Monday by a Faculty Senate committee.

The six-person panel was convened three weeks ago to investigate academic freedom issues after the university decided to bar three political science professors from testifying in a lawsuit against the state.

But its findings go well beyond that episode and were so disturbing — especially regarding COVID-19 research — that the group decided to speed up its work, said Danaya Wright, a constitutional law professor and former Faculty Senate chairperson who served on the committee.

“We knew it was much more widespread,” Wright said in an interview Monday. “We knew there was more silencing and pressure coming from above. The Big Above.”

UF restricted five other professors’ participation in legal cases against the state.

The committee received a flood of input from faculty, from stories about attempts to serve as expert witnesses to instances that dealt with race and COVID-19 research across disciplines.

The report discusses several “challenges” faced by UF researchers who were working on COVID-19 with an unidentified state entity. It describes “external pressure to destroy” data as well as “barriers” to accessing, analyzing and publishing the numbers. Taken together, the report said, those problems “inhibited the ability of faculty to contribute scientific findings during a world-wide pandemic.”

The report further states that UF employees were told “not to criticize the Governor of Florida or UF policies related to COVID-19 in media interactions.” It says they were told not to use their UF titles or affiliation in written commentary or to give oral presentations.

And faculty at UF Health expressed concerns over funding being in jeopardy if they did not adopt the state’s stance on pandemic regulations in opinion articles, the report says.

The allegations related to data destruction added a sense of urgency to the committee’s work, Wright said.

“COVID research, it is life and death to not be able to do your job,” Wright said. “To have your research that you’ve trained for so many years to be able to do, to have that research tabled, put on the shelf and ignored and not get it out there to the academic community to get it out there and see if it’s going to do any good.”


The report also details other allegations, including that “websites were required to be changed, that course syllabi had to be restructured, and that use of the terms “critical” and “race” could not appear together in the same sentence or document.”
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As a tenured faculty member, Wright said she feels a duty to speak up, though she said she wishes the issue was not perceived as faculty versus administration.

“We’ve reached a point where many faculty feel that wherever this pressure is coming from, it is interfering with our duty and loyalty and commitment and responsibility to seek the truth and make that knowledge available,” she said. “Faculty desperately want to do our jobs.”

The source of the pressure remains unclear, she said.


Just before the Thanksgiving break, a task force convened by the university reached a different conclusion on the issue of academic freedom, saying in its own report that “the University of Florida Board of Trustees ensures that the institution is free from undue influence by external persons or bodies through clear and consistently enforced policies and procedures.”
Asked to comment on the Faculty Senate report, a representative for the university declined to do so.

This Tampa Bay Times story was distributed by Tribune News Service.
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University of Florida Faculty Senate Committee issues report saying they have academic freedom issues but the source of the pressure is unclear.

Fire them. They just proved they are useless.
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DeSantis is the source of the pressure dip stick. He has done everything possible to negate the true status of SARS-COVID2 in Florida.
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Now the scientists at UF need "safe spaces"?

They felt pressure, but can't articulate where it came from.

What happened to personal integrity, standing up for whatyo ubelieve and accepting the consequences of doing so?

I just wish some of the doctors and researches who are beholden to Fauci for funding had done so early on regarding theraputics for Covid. Even CNN's Dr. Gupta admitted they have been used for decades successfully.
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Stogie1020 wrote:
Now the scientists at UF need "safe spaces"?

They felt pressure, but can't articulate where it came from.

What happened to personal integrity, standing up for whatyo ubelieve and accepting the consequences of doing so?

I just wish some of the doctors and researches who are beholden to Fauci for funding had done so early on regarding theraputics for Covid. Even CNN's Dr. Gupta admitted they have been used for decades successfully.


I just spoke to a Florida Law School professor about this a couple weeks ago. The faculty and University are scarred $hitless about crossing the Governor. He said many are already interviewing and leaving. That is the issue. We supposedly hire the best and brightest and then pressure their silence?
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Speyside2 wrote:
DeSantis is the source of the pressure dip stick. He has done everything possible to negate the true status of SARS-COVID2 in Florida.


A tenured PHD professor at the University of Florida said they did not know the source of the pressure.

I’ve been waiting to snatch up real estate in Florida for a year and a half because of the “true status of SARS-Covid-19” but they’re all still there and alive.
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rfenst wrote:
I just spoke to a Florida Law School professor about this a couple weeks ago. The faculty and University are scarred $hitless about crossing the Governor. He said many are already interviewing and leaving. That is the issue. We supposedly hire the best and brightest and then pressure their silence?


I’m not holding my breath that any of those Commie professors are going anywhere. They’ve got it pretty good there.
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rfenst wrote:
We supposedly hire the best and brightest




In Florida?

Laugh
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rfenst wrote:
I just spoke to a Florida Law School professor about this a couple weeks ago. The faculty and University are scarred $hitless about crossing the Governor. He said many are already interviewing and leaving. That is the issue. We supposedly hire the best and brightest and then pressure their silence?

Rumors and innuendo again? Where is one single shred of evidence the Governor is affecting a single professor's life over his or her research results on Covid?...

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Stogie1020 wrote:
Rumors and innuendo again? Where is one single shred of evidence the Governor is affecting a single professor's life over his or her research results on Covid?...


Do some research and read articles from the last two-three months to see what is going on, what the consequences have been for some, his quotes and what others have said from other Florida newspapers (possibly including the university newspaper and student newspaper) to see what has transpired and what the consequences have been for the University, professors and the public that pays for it to be a flagship school. It's shameful.
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Stogie1020 wrote:
Rumors and innuendo again? Where is one single shred of evidence the Governor is affecting a single professor's life over his or her research results on Covid?...


Again?

It's not innuendo. His comments were not suggesting anything or disparaging. It's also not a rumor. He conveyed a fact based on personal knowledge.

My question was about whether it was real in the law school and whether it has been affecting anyone he knows.

This is about academic/intellectual freedom and public interest from taxpayer supported universities, not Covid.
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No brainer HD, even Brandon could figure out . DeSantis only cares about sucking up to Trumps base, little else. At various points in time he has hidden covid data.
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rfenst wrote:
Do some research and read articles from the last two-three months to see what the consequences have been, his quotes and what others have said from other Florida newspapers (possibly including the university newspaper and student newspaper
to see what has transpired and what the consequences have been for the University, professors and the public that pays for it to be a flagship school. It's shameful.


I’m sure it has been just miserable for those tenured professors. They have it rough. As they pack out and leave I’m sure they’ll find lucrative positions in the Georgia junior college system and maybe even work their way up to an ACC school.

Shameful is losing to the Georgia Bulldogs. Fix that and maybe the alumni will be concerned about some whiny poly sci professors.
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or go into college football coaching...didja see how much SC is paying Riley?

Even Newsome can't touch that kid if he was inclined to spill any covid beans...
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This is priceless….

Yeah there’s never been an pressure for grant stream funding. If you’re going to dish it out than take it.
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HockeyDad wrote:
I’m sure it has been just miserable for those tenured professors. They have it rough. As they pack out and leave I’m sure they’ll find lucrative positions in the Georgia junior college system and maybe even work their way up to an ACC school.

Shameful is losing to the Georgia Bulldogs. Fix that and maybe the alumni will be concerned about some whiny poly sci professors.

It's not about feeling bad for the professors. It's about our "best" being allowed to share their expert knowledge for the public good.
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rfenst wrote:
It's not about feeling bad for the professors. It's about our "best" being allowed to share their expert knowledge for the public good.


I don’t see anything about the other 39 public colleges and universities in Florida having this problem.

Whiny Commie poly sci professors who fought a war against their straw man and lost. That’s your “best”?

HogTown University needs to stick to Gatorade.
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K... don't send kids to University of Florida... They will be dropping the blue because they've been painted orange.

Got it.
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The only good Commie professor is an unemployed Commie professor.
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HockeyDad wrote:
I don’t see anything about the other 39 public colleges and universities in Florida having this problem.

Because they all play second fiddle to the prestige of U.F. in Florida's mind and have nowhere near the resources to employ the all-around best- and more often the best- in the state.

Besides, I don't think any of them have as nice and big of a football stadium or a nuclear reactor on campus like Florida does...

HockeyDad wrote:
University needs to stick to Gatorade.

If they had, they would probably have made billions!
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bgz wrote:
K... don't send kids to University of Florida... They will be dropping the blue because they've been painted orange.

Got it.

Good one!
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Judge: UF professors face ‘credible threat’

Won’t toss lawsuit challenging school’s policy on giving expert testimony

News Service of Florida

TALLAHASSEE — A federal judge has refused to dismiss a lawsuit filed by University of Florida professors challenging a policy that gives the school discretion in blocking faculty members from testifying against the state in legal cases.

U.S. District Judge Mark Walker on Monday found that the professors who sued face a “credible threat” that future requests will be denied and cited comments from the chairman of UF’s board of trustees as evidence of that.

Political science professors Sharon Austin, Michael McDonald and Daniel Smith sued after university officials denied their requests to serve as plaintiffs’ witnesses in a legal battle about a new state elections law (SB 90) that will, in part, make it harder for Floridians to vote by mail.

The professors turned to the court after university officials told them that going against the executive branch of the government was “adverse” to the school’s interests. The professors contend that the university’s conflict-of-interest policy violates First Amendment speech rights and discriminates based on viewpoint and content.

Amid national headlines about the policy, University of Florida President Kent Fuchs walked back the decision on the professors’ testimony in the elections case, saying they would be allowed to be paid as plaintiffs’ experts if they did so on their own time and did not use school resources.

Fuchs also quickly assembled a task force to review the conflict-of-interest issue and signed off on recommended changes to the policy.

The revised policy says there is a “strong presumption” that the university will approve faculty or staff requests to testify as expert witnesses.

University leaders last month asked Walker to toss the lawsuit, arguing in part that the case is “moot” because administrators have changed the conflict-of-interest policy. The defendants, which include Fuchs, UF Provost Joseph Glover, and the university’s board of trustees, also maintained that the professors lack “standing” as plaintiffs in the case because the university ultimately authorized their requests to serve as expert witnesses.

Walker’s decision included lengthy excerpts of recent comments by UF Board of Trustees Chairman Morteza “Mori” Hosseini, which the judge said “leave this court with little doubt that the University of Florida intends to enforce its conflict-of-interest policy in the manner plaintiffs fear.”

During a board meeting last month, Hosseini said faculty members had “taken advantage of their positions” by using their university jobs “to improperly advocate personal political viewpoints to the exclusion of others.”

“This will not stand,” Hosseini said. “It must stop, and it will stop.” Hosseini also said that state leaders are “fed up” with faculty “misusing their positions.”

“In short, plaintiffs’ activities anger Tallahassee, that th
reatens the university’s funding, and so the university must halt plaintiffs’ activities,” Walker wrote in Monday’s 23-page ruling.

Walker also rejected the defendants’ arguments that the case is moot because the school’s policy has been revised.
“This case is not about what has happened; this case is about what will happen,” he wrote. “Further, plaintiffs contend that the university reversed course on its earlier denials to try to ride out the firestorm of criticism those denials triggered.

Once that storm is over, plaintiffs say, the university will pick up right where it left off. And that renewed application of the conflict-of-interest policy is what plaintiffs sue to prevent.”
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What does a nosey pepper do?
It gets jalapeño business
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Judge to rule soon on UF professors’ lawsuit over testifying in court

Associated Press

A federal judge criticized an attorney for the University of Florida on Friday at a hearing on whether six faculty members’ free speech rights were infringed upon after the lawyer accused some of the professors of having no standing to make their cases because they had violated school policy.

Chief Judge Mark Walker in Tallahassee called an effort by the attorney for the University of Florida to introduce evidence about three of the six professors as “squirrely” when both sides had agreed there would be no need to take depositions or collect evidence. The judge said there was nothing “new” about what attorney H. Christopher Bartolomucci wanted to present since it was already part of the public record.

“It strains credulity for you to suggest that these are newly discovered facts,” Walker said. “I find this 11th-hour epiphany on your part to be questionable.”

Six professors have sued the University of Florida, claiming it infringed upon their First Amendment rights by requiring them to get approval before serving as expert witnesses in outside cases. They claimed their requests were rejected by the university because they conflicted with the administration of Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis and are asking for a preliminary injunction to block the university’s policy.

The judge said he would try to make a decision within 10 days.

Before being dressed down by the judge at Friday’s hearing, Bartolomucci said three of the professors, Sharon Austin, Michael McDonald and Daniel Smith were working as experts in outside cases before they had submitted requests for approval. The attorney for the University of Florida described their actions as “misconduct” and “flagrantly ignoring the process.”

“The policy didn’t chill them,” Bartolomucci said during a hearing by telephone. “They lack standing. They didn’t honor the process.”
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Frying pan Frying pan Frying pan

Gators going to Tallahassee...whip


https://youtu.be/J20wsKNV0NI
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University of Florida poly sci professors lack standing in general.
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The most corrupt CEOs are the ones who run pretzel companies. They're always so twisted
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