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Billionaire entrepreneur Elon Musk responded to Joy Reid’s attack on him during her show on Wednesday night by calling her a “lobbyist for Sen Karen,” referencing the new nickname that he recently coined for Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA).

Musk made the remark in response to Reid defending Warren from Musk’s new nickname during her show last night. Musk’s remarks toward Warren came after Warren suggested without evidence that Musk was “freeloading off everyone else” by not paying taxes.

“Elon wasn’t happy, so he did what he always did and stomped his little feet and insulted Senator Warren, calling her an ‘angry mom’ and referring to her as ‘Senator Karen,’” Reid said. “So, for so many reasons, being a freeloader and a selfish and disrespectful one, and for misappropriating black vernacular for misogynistic purposes, Elon Musk is the absolute worst.”

Musk responded to Reid, “(Lack of) Joy Reid is a lobbyist for Sen Karen.”

(Lack of) Joy Reid is a lobbyist for Sen Karen

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 16, 2021

Warren made her comments about Musk after Musk was named Time Magazine’s Person of the Year.

Musk responded with a torrent of tweets, the first of which was an op-ed published on Fox News that featured the title: “Elizabeth Warren is a fraud — Her lies about being Native American disqualify her from presidency, Senate.”

“Stop projecting!” Musk declared in the tweet.

“You remind me of when I was a kid and my friend’s angry Mom would just randomly yell at everyone for no reason,” Musk said. “Please don’t call the manager on me, Senator Karen."

A few hours later, Musk continued, adding: “And if you opened your eyes for 2 seconds, you would realize I will pay more taxes than any American in history this year.”

The Daily Wire reported on Tuesday:

Warren’s tweet follows Musk’s harsh criticism of the Biden administration’s “Build Back Better Act.” The $1.75 trillion legislation — which the House of Representatives has already approved — would expand various social programs, including universal preschool, childcare subsidies, and climate change initiatives.

“I would say can this bill, don’t pass it. That’s my recommendation,” argued Musk during The Wall Street Journal’s CEO Council Summit. “If this bill happens or doesn’t happen, we don’t think about it at all really. Honestly it might be better if the bill doesn’t pass.”

Musk continued his remarks by sharing an analysis from the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School explaining that the national debt would increase by over 24% if the bill’s provisions are made permanent. “There is a lot of accounting trickery in this bill that isn’t being disclosed to the public,” he added, noting that the $1.75 trillion price tag is deceptively low due to the arbitrary expiration of several programs.

Musk slammed advocates of big government in recent remarks that he gave, saying, “It does not make sense to take the job of capital allocation away from people who have demonstrated great skill in capital allocation, and give it to an entity that has demonstrated very poor skill in capital allocation, which is the government.”

“Government is simply the biggest corporation, with the monopoly on violence,” he added.

I think joy Reid is a successful African American descendent with a chip on her shoulder...she was bullied in high school,
alleDgEdly...who likes to use "BIG" WORDS in tweets to make herself look superior to the richest man on the 🌎🌍...
She failed in that task WOEFULLY.

I hear this Joy Reid is HATEFUL, DUMB, UGLY and has BAD HAIR too, Mr. Jones

She's so dumb that she thinks modern day Russia is still the USSR, even though the Soviet Union collapsed 3 decades ago.
She's a racist too, she called Justice Clarence Thomas, ‘Uncle Clarence'.
She hates Christians also, equating them with the Taliban.

don't know Joy Reid.
been rooting for Musk for years, still hope his home solar battery idea becomes a real thing.
But he has to admit tons of his success has been enabled through big government energy rebates to purchasers for cars and roof top solar.

You are an idiot.

Don't hate me because I hate Marxism and slavery on the federal plantation.

Elizabeth Warren is a complete MORON.

E.W. & husband Bruce Mann ( not much of one if his wife never took his last name) are also a multi millionaires.

Her NET WORTH IS $12 MILLION.

SHE makes $174 k in Congress, he makes $400k as a Harvard professor...

The rest comes from THE PRETENDIAN'S BEST SELLING BOOKS for idiots of the same political views as hers...
And some from minor inheritances...

Who is John Galt?

You can't really mention Jobs without mentioning Steve Wazniack.

I don't hate you Ray, I just think you are a bitter, unhappy man, who is unpleasant to interact with on CBid.

Elon: And if you opened your eyes for 2 seconds, you would realize I will pay more taxes than any American in history this year.

GOAT Speak.

Only because he must exercise certain stock options or he will loose them. Take a look at what he's paid over the last ten years relative to you and me and the way that he is able to afford his lifestyle without taking personal income.

And, for the record, I have no problem with Elon Musk individually, just the fact that uber-wealthy are allowed to avoid taxes in ways we can't.

As far as GOATS go... he's right up there with Einstein, Reimann, Newton, Euler, Pythagoras, ..., Brady, ... and that one dude who rubbed two sticks together.


Ya... he's right up there with those guys.

Hmmmm... I don't like the idea of taxing unrealized gains. Had this discussion before I believe.

It takes away the incentive to hodl... what would be the point of taking on long risk if you're going to get hammerred on it whether it goes up or down.

That would destroy markets.

Then I'm doing a good job, I don't think that everybody here wants CBID to turn into an echo chamber promoting Marxism and slavery on the federal plantation. I know some like you may be afraid of a paradigm shift in thinking away from the progressive zeitgeist.

But, are the gains really unrealized when they have value to the owner such that they can be used as collateral to borrow money against (like real estate or other assets)? That is the issue. There are ways to use unrealized stock options and trusts to pass the options on to heirs without the heirs ever paying inheritance taxes or income taxes in the same ways. You and I can't do that. Why should they be allowed to?

Or a margin account.

I have no idea what he may have made directly from the government but I'd bet a whole lot of his car sales would not have happened without rebates to the purchasers.
And I happen to be a fan of the guy, just find it unlikeable to get political preaching from someone partaking in "the program" for their own benefit.

I never paid much attention to Musk, pro or con. But since he called Warren a “Karen” he moved the needle over to the pro side.

Frank, did he have a choice in "the program"? The rebate is a $7500 tax credit that went to the rich person EV consumer on his Marxist income tax. It's just one way the politicians and their rich supporters avoid "paying their fair share".

I chuckled when you first wrote that Musk is against it.
This time I'm starting to believe you believe it.

Take the money and run.

Not necessary... I knew what ya meant. Was just making sure ya knew what I meant.

In terms of collateral, yes.

But, a loan on an "unrealized gain" is much more abstract because the inchoate stock options need not necessarily even ever be exercised or any portion of taken ownership of during the borrower's lifetime, or anytime thereafter. The "unrealized gain" can even be passed down from generation to generation tax free (in certain circumstances). In other words, one can get all the benefits of ownership without ever fulfilling what I believe are the obligations that come along with ownership. It also seems to differ in that the benefit of ownership of the "property" is in one person/entity, but possession is held by another (the corporation).

I have no beef at all with with the necessary, private aggregation of capital that enriches our country. I see that as a good thing. And, I don't favor taxing the uber-wealthy just because they are uber-wealthy and can afford to pay without a change in lifestyle. In most cases, they have "earned" it and IMO deserve it. I also don't want them to be an "easy target", but at the same time they shouldn't get an exponentially bigger, better, tax-breaks than the rest of us, just because they are uber-wealthy or part of the "ruling class."

I do not know what is "right" or "fair" as they are both subjective, but I just feel that there is a smell of rotten fish that needs to be figured out.

Now, back to the equity loan on tangible, real property analogy. No one will loan money to you or me without recourse against a piece of property we have a mere purchase option on, but which we have no obligation to exercise and can walk away from or avoid at anytime we wish, making the collateral worthless, unless we were are uber-rich In my mind, it's just not a good enough reason.

Robert, I would want 2 things tax related in an ideal world. First cut out all the waste and redundancy from all levels of government. Second eliminate all existing forms of taxation and create 1 flat rate tax for everyone. I know this would be an onerous task, but it would be the correct choice. I for one do not like to look for every tax deduction possible, but, with how taxation is done here presently, I do.

You say that you and I can’t do this.

I have unrealized stock options and a trust.