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Opinion: It’s 2022: An early look at the GOP hopefuls
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This midterm election year seems predestined to banish the Democratic majorities in both houses of Congress. The country senses infirmity in its 79-year-old commander in chief and a new radicalism at the heart of his party — and many worry that our adversaries in China, Russia and Iran sense an opening. Buckle up for 2022; the year in politics is going to be rough, and that’s true even if vaccines and boosters can stay ahead of the variants.

The new year will also see the race for 2024 move into first gear — and beyond.

Barack Obama adviser David Axelrod once proposed that when Americans voted in an open-seat presidential election (and I expect his rule will apply no matter what in 2024), they seek the opposite kind of personality for their next leader. The shadow campaign for the GOP nomination opens this year with a clear front-runner, former president Donald Trump, but he may well choose to preside over the GOP rather than run it. Trump was 70 when he won in 2016; he will be 78 in 2024, and he has watched President Biden age in the White House. Does Trump want to bet that Father Time will skip over him? The indignities of aging in front of the entire world are many, and of the sort Trump is said to hate — the applesauce and pudding jokes — and so I wonder.

The ranks of the top tier among possible GOP presidential nominees, in alphabetical order, are Arkansas Sen. Tom Cotton, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, former secretary of state Mike Pompeo and South Carolina Sen. Tim Scott.

If the world grows even darker and the dangers even more evident, Cotton and Pompeo — two former soldiers — start with some advantages. Cotton can sound like a professor reading Abraham Lincoln’s speech at the Cooper Union, measuring out well-developed arguments rooted in political theory, and displaying an intellectual heft balanced by the experience of leading a platoon of the 101st Airborne division in Baghdad.

Pompeo is the best qualified by experience to deal with the People’s Republic of China, our country’s greatest threat. The senior ranks of the Chinese Communist Party know Pompeo has their number: expansionist, zealous Leninist cadres bent on hegemony, and not just over their neighbors. Great power competition doesn’t faze the top-of-his-class U.S. Military Academy graduate. The former congressman, top U.S. diplomat and CIA director may be the combination America wants after three more years of, well, what 2021 has been.

Cruz has party tradition on his side. He was the GOP runner-up to Trump in 2016, and the GOP has a deep muscle memory of passing the baton to the candidate who has been around the track and won the silver. But that rule applies only when the gold medalist leaves the field and, so far, Trump isn’t disappearing.

DeSantis is the combative populist who has tucked his Harvard law degree (Cotton, Cruz and Pompeo each have one, too) inside his jacket. “Comfortably Smug” is perhaps the most influential of the conservative podcasts, and when its proprietors began referring to the “Free State of Florida,” they gifted DeSantis with a catch phrase of incalculable value. If there’s a pole position, DeSantis has it. (Note: In 2016, that advantage supposedly belonged to then-Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker.)

South Carolina’s Scott is a man of kindness and deep Christian faith — these attributes do not always pair up — and is almost certain to be on the 2024 ticket somewhere. Scott is the promise of reconciliation across parties and colors, which is an almost desperate desire among millions of Americans of both parties. He’s also a gifted orator.

That’s the top tier — and while they sit well below the former president, it’s possible one or more will run whether or not the former president does. Whispers of shocking private polls abound, as they often do at this stage of the race. My bet, with three years to go, is that Trump runs hard.

Just below these five are other familiar names, including both senators from Florida, Marco Rubio and Rick Scott. Former vice president Mike Pence is beloved by traditional conservatives but hated by the former president’s most fervent supporters. Former U.N. ambassador Nikki Haley and former national security adviser Robert C. O’Brien hail from central casting, but seem as destined for future Cabinet jobs as Govs. Greg Abbott of Texas and Kristi L. Noem of South Dakota.

Former New Jersey governor Chris Christie, increasingly critical of Trump, seems determined to run even if it means a lone, one-on-one battle with Trump.

This race has already begun. The Republican National Committee would make a lot of money by staging early candidate forums featuring some or all of the above contenders. GOP Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel should dictate terms to broadcast partners, and invite four to eight hopefuls to gatherings devoted to flaying Team Biden and underscoring the menace in Asia. Such orchestrated gatherings would have huge audiences and help every Republican running for Congress in 2022 — and other offices down the ticket. What is she waiting for?
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I went to buy some camouflage pants the other day but couldn't find any
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I had the same problem with toilet paper.
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bgz wrote:
I had the same problem with toilet paper.


You have to hoard before everyone else does.
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If I had to guess?

GOP

Ron DeSantis is the clear leader after Trump
Ted Cruz will try and fail
Mike Pompeo is a good VP candidate, possible president
Mark Rubio has little hands and feet..nope not Eeeemmmm'
Tom Scott W.H.O.??? NO WAY
GREG ABBOTT V.P. maybe?
Kristi Noem is H.O.T. , maybe VP?

Trump will be too friggin' old, plus somehow? Some way the Teflon DON is gonna be convicted of a FELONY before
12-31-23...thereby forbidden to run in 2024


Remember where you heard it first...and by who...

Democrats???

I have no idea, too many NUT JOBS TO GUESS REALLY...
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I get all my GOP strategy from the WAPO….they’re so unbiased
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DeSantis is out for 2024.

I don't know how many times he has to state it. He's running for governor again for the free state of Florida. He's said he's not running for governor to turn around and run for another office while he has one.

Personally, I'd like him to follow Sen. Scott into the senate and then take a VP slot or run for the seat behind the Resolute Desk. He's young enough. He'll make a great President. He knows how to lead effectively.
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ZRX1200 wrote:
I get all my GOP strategy from the WAPO….they’re so unbiased

I posted the opinion because it just seems to make sense.
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
DeSantis is out for 2024.

I don't know how many times he has to state it. He's running for governor again for the free state of Florida. He's said he's not running for governor to turn around and run for another office while he has one.

Personally, I'd like him to follow Sen. Scott into the senate and then take a VP slot or run for the seat behind the Resolute Desk. He's young enough. He'll make a great President. He knows how to lead effectively.


I disagree.

If Trump doesn't run, DeSantis will run and will win. He may be young, but he has no reason to wait longer because he is electable right now. He already has some legislative and significant executive branch experience, so I don't think he needs to be VP first to win. IMO, the longer he waits, the more time there is for something to go wrong with his trajectory.

Your progression/grooming experience concept is a good one and certainly is the ways things should work (but don't).

IMO, DeSantis would be a much better Senator and advocate for Florida than Scott ever could be on his best day. And, you know I do not like DeSantis being our governor because of the way he does certain things and the things he does, so that is really a back-handed compliment to DeSantis.

In my mind, the true DeSantis wild card could be his wife's health.

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rfenst wrote:
I disagree.

If Trump doesn't run, DeSantis will run and will win. He may be young, but he has no reason to wait longer because he is electable right now. He already has some legislative and significant executive branch experience, so I don't think he needs to be VP first to win. IMO, the longer he waits, the more time there is for something to go wrong with his trajectory.

Your progression/grooming experience concept is a good one and certainly is the ways things should work (but don't).

IMO, DeSantis would be a much better Senator and advocate for Florida than Scott ever could be on his best day. And, you know I do not like DeSantis being our governor because of the way he does certain things and the things he does, so that is really a back-handed compliment to DeSantis.

In my mind, the true DeSantis wild card could be his wife's health.




Her battle is what keeps him close, not running away. His word is his bond to this state. That is what endears him to it.

I get that you hate him. You're so partisan you have to. You're so bitter that the other guy didn't win just because he had a D behind his name. He was an Obama anointed pariah that would've locked down this state like the other Blue ones. In a world turned upside down we live in one of the most free states in the Union, one would really want to know how crappy you'd want it to be before you removed the partisan plank from your eye to see the freedoms we enjoy under DeSantis. If you want to live under such harsh control there are LOADS of states that would love to have you and your DNC card carrying vote. They're emptying out to the point that an out of state move from the rental companies can charge a premium. They'll prolly give you a truck with movers to move to NY, IL or NJ.
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So, he's the messiah and that is why I hate him?
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I thought. "I can't turn that down."
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