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Opinion: Australia should send Novak Djokovic home
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Eugene Robinson Columnist
WAPO


Novak Djokovic, the top-ranked men’s tennis player in the world, does not deserve to play in the Australian Open. His flouting of the country’s coronavirus vaccination regime has nothing to do with “freedom” — and everything to do with the persecution complex he cultivates as a source of motivation.

The Open is arguably the most important international sporting event on the calendar in Oz. But if I were an Australian citizen, I’d be livid at the idea that Djokovic could waltz into the country — defiantly unvaccinated — and blithely go about staking his claim as tennis’s greatest of all time. I’d remember the early phase of the pandemic, when thousands of Aussies were stranded abroad for weeks or even months, barred from coming home. I’d remember the repeated lockdowns that were among the strictest and most punishing in the world.

Despite a judge’s ruling on Monday allowing Djokovic to remain in the country and compete, I’d want the government to use all its power to bar him anyway. And if all else failed and he ended up taking the court in Melbourne next week, I’d refuse to watch him play despite his undeniable, exquisite talent.

Djokovic, who is from Serbia, has won 20 singles titles in the four major tournaments — Wimbledon and the Australian, French and U.S. Opens — which leaves him tied with Roger Federer of Switzerland and Rafael Nadal of Spain as the greatest male tennis player of the Open era. Federer and Nadal, both of whom ooze charisma and glamour, have long been widely beloved. Djokovic, not so much.

Novak Djokovic's supporters clashed with police on the streets of Melbourne on Jan. 10, after they swarmed a car believed to be carrying the tennis player. (Michael Miller/The Washington Post)
Federer, who is fully vaccinated, is not playing in Melbourne this year. Nadal, who will compete, is also fully vaccinated — as Australian Open, Victoria state government and Australian national government rules require. According to the Economist magazine, 95 percent of top professional men’s tennis players are fully vaccinated.

Djokovic, however, is well-known as anti-vaccine. Contrarianism seems central to his persona.

He was given a sweetheart “medical exemption” to play in Australia by the tournament and the state, based on the fact that he recently had a covid-19 infection and thus should enjoy some immunity. In the days after testing positive in December, Djokovic did not isolate himself to protect others. Quite the contrary: He was photographed posing and mingling with groups of people, not even bothering to wear a mask.

That may not have been much of a concern in Belgrade, where Djokovic attended an event for young tennis players after testing positive. He is a national hero in Serbia, after all; and the Economist reports that only 45 percent of that nation’s adults are fully vaccinated. But Serbia has “suffered the second-highest number of excess deaths in the world per head of population” during the pandemic, according to the magazine’s tracker.

Djokovic’s exemption may be technically correct according to the tournament’s rules, as the court said on Monday. But it is morally wrong and contravenes the spirit of Australian law. Prime Minister Scott Morrison was right to cancel Djokovic’s visa. And despite the judge’s decision, Morrison’s government can, and should, still kick him out.

Serbia’s president complained that Djokovic is the victim of “persecution.” This lines up with the nationalistic view that Serbia is constantly being punished for its brutal aggression in the Balkan wars — and also with the suspicion that the tennis world does not want to see Djokovic surpass the more sympathetic Federer and Nadal as the GOAT.

But a couple of inconvenient facts destroy this Novak-against-the-world narrative. First, it is clear that the Australian national government’s policy on coronavirus vaccinations does not consider recent infection and recovery as grounds for exemption from the vaccination mandate, even if the tournament and the state of Victoria are willing to give Djokovic a pass. And, second, he could have avoided any possible question about his eligibility to play simply by getting vaccinated, as other elite tennis players have done. Djokovic is not being persecuted. He’s asking for special treatment.

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Look, I’m actually a Djokovic fan — when he’s on the court. The man plays beautiful, thrilling tennis. He has earned his place among the pantheon of greats. And because he has triumphed at the Australian Open an incredible nine times, he would be favored to add a 10th title and take the career lead in major tournaments won.

But he doesn’t deserve the chance, not this year. Many Australians have endured months of lockdowns and restrictions, most recently because of a delta-variant driven wave of coronavirus infections. More than 90 percent of Australian adults have had at least two vaccine shots, according to government figures. Aussies have more than done their part to fight the pandemic.

Djokovic hasn’t. Wish him “G’day, mate.” And put him on a plane home.

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**** WAPO.

He got an exemption and the Aussie fascists are pissing on their bush to mark their territory and acting the fool.
RayR Offline
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Screw the WAPO progtards and Free Australia from theirs!

Novak Djokovic Wins VISA Case Against Ridiculous Government, Draws Spotlight of World Upon Australia’s Totalitarian Mindset

January 10, 2022 | Sundance

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The Australian Open is scheduled to begin January 17th in Melbourne, the epicenter of Australia’s totalitarian COVID mandates. However, one of the biggest and most important sporting events in the country has turned into a national embarrassment as the world now sees the arbitrary and nonsensical nature of the Australian rules and regulations surrounding their COVID response.

Judge Anthony Kelly dispatched the government argument, squashed the visa cancellation and further ordered the Australian Government to pay legal costs and release Djokovic from detention within half an hour. An overwhelming victory following well-presented legal arguments based on reason and logic from Djokovic’s lawyers.

More...

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/01/10/novak-djokovic-wins-visa-case-against-ridiculous-government-draws-spotlight-of-world-upon-australias-totalitarian-mindset/
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Honestly IDGAF. The court has decided so be it. If a higher court cancels his visa so be it.
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Let him in as long as he agrees to daily testing...that's what most professional athletes are required to do in the US. This will acknowledge his freedom of choice while taking the responsibility to keep those around him during the tournament safe.

Freedom of choice does not mean abandoning responsibility to avoid harming others. We are a civil society...not merely a collection of individuals

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I don't think so Al. Is he a jerk? I guess that depends on your POV. Let the law work, don't try to force a new law based on public opinion.
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Speyside2 wrote:
Honestly IDGAF. The court has decided so be it. If a higher court cancels his visa so be it.


Oh so now you don't GAF about liberty and freedom. Defer everything to the robed geniuses in the courts, whatever they decide huh?
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RayR wrote:
Oh so now you don't GAF about liberty and freedom. Defer everything to the robed geniuses in the courts, whatever they decide huh?

If not them, then who?
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What do you call an elephant that doesn't matter?
An irrelephant
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Djokovic Admits False Statement on Australia Travel Document

The tennis star also said he had participated in an interview and a photo shoot even after testing positive for the coronavirus, in an apparent violation of rules in his native Serbia.

NYT

MELBOURNE, Australia — Novak Djokovic, the top-ranked men’s tennis player, acknowledged on Wednesday that a travel document he presented to Australian border officials last week contained false information, as the country’s authorities continued to investigate whether he should be deported.

Mr. Djokovic also said that he had participated in an interview and a photo shoot last month in his native Serbia even after testing positive for the coronavirus, in an apparent breach of the country’s rules for infected people. Australian officials have said they are looking into whether Mr. Djokovic, who is unvaccinated, poses a risk to public health.

The tennis star’s comments came in a statement he released on social media that he said was intended to “clarify misinformation” about the weeks before he arrived in Melbourne for the Australian Open. He was detained for days by Australian border officials before being ordered released on Monday by a federal judge.

But Mr. Djokovic’s statement did not fully resolve a range of questions that have swirled over his quest to remain in Australia and seek a record 21st Grand Slam title. Among them are exactly when he learned of the positive test result and how his travel documents came to falsely assert that he had not traveled internationally in the 14 days before his arrival in Australia.

The statement posted on Instagram, which Mr. Djokovic said would be his last remarks about his ordeal in Australia, was released as the country’s immigration minister said he was still considering whether to exercise his personal powers to cancel the player’s visa again. Immigration officials were also investigating the discrepancies in the paperwork Mr. Djokovic presented as he tried to enter Australia last week with an exemption from a requirement for Covid-19 vaccinations.

Australian tennis officials granted that exemption on the basis of what Mr. Djokovic had said was a Covid infection he had in mid-December. He had come under criticism over images on social media showing him at events at the same time he was supposedly infected with the coronavirus.

Mr. Djokovic said on Wednesday that he had taken a P.C.R. test on Dec. 16 after some people at a basketball game he had attended two days earlier tested positive for the coronavirus. Despite having no symptoms, he also took a rapid antigen test “out of an abundance of caution,” he said, and it came back negative.

On Dec. 17, he said, as he was awaiting his P.C.R. result, he attended a tennis event in Belgrade, the Serbian capital, where he presented awards to children. He said that he took another rapid antigen test before attending that event, which came back negative, and that his P.C.R. test did not come back positive until after it had finished.

On Dec. 18, he went ahead with an interview and a photo shoot with the French sports newspaper L’Equipe “to fulfill a longstanding commitment,” he said.

“I felt obliged to go ahead and conduct the L’Equipe interview as I didn’t want to let the journalist down, but did ensure I socially distanced and wore a mask except when my photograph was taken,” Mr. Djokovic said.

“While I went home after the interview to isolate for the required period, on reflection, this was an error of judgment and I accept that I should have rescheduled this commitment,” he added.

It was not the first time Mr. Djokovic has had to apologize for dismissive actions he has taken during the pandemic. In mid-2020, as the virus raged in Europe and elsewhere, he held a tennis tournament after which he and several others tested positive.

While Mr. Djokovic said in his statement on Wednesday that he “had not received the notification of a positive PCR result” until Dec. 17 — after the event involving children — documents he provided to Australian officials as he tried to enter the country said that the result had been returned the day before.

With the Australian Open set to start on Monday, the Australian authorities are investigating whether Mr. Djokovic should be deported as a risk to public health.

A copy of his medical certificate for his positive P.C.R. test said that the test was taken at 1:05 p.m. on Dec. 16 and that the positive result was returned at 8:19 on the same day. In an affidavit provided to an Australian court, he said, “On 16 December 2021, I was tested and diagnosed with SARS-CoV-2 (COVID).” It was unclear when exactly he learned of his purported positive test.

The Serbian prime minister, Ana Brnabic, said this week that had Mr. Djokovic known that he was positive for the coronavirus before attending the awards event on Dec. 17, he would have “clearly violated the rules” in Serbia.

A vaccine exemption question. The No. 1-ranked men’s tennis player was refused entry to Australia over questions about a Covid vaccine exemption, but Djokovic challenged the ruling in court and an Australian judge granted him entry into the country.

How it started. The standoff began when Djokovic, a vaccine skeptic, received an exemption that would allow him to defend his Australian Open title. Upon arrival, federal officials said he did not meet the requirements for entry because he was unvaccinated, and canceled his visa.

The bigger picture. Amid a difficult time in Australia’s fight against Covid, the standoff has highlighted the growing public outcry against high-profile vaccine skeptics like Djokovic when they want to play by different rules than everyone else.

What happens next. Australian officials hinted they may make a new attempt to cancel Djokovic’s visa, even as the tennis champion, freed from detention, returned to the court. The standoff also presages headwinds he may face if he attempts to travel the world without being vaccinated.

But more information was required, she added, saying, “I don’t know when he received the test result, when he read it.”

When asked what would happen if Mr. Djokovic was found to have breached quarantine rules, she said the Serbian government would “deal with it.”

In his statement, Mr. Djokovic also addressed questions about the declaration he made on his visa paperwork that he had not traveled to any other countries in the 14 days before arriving in Australia. The paperwork warns of serious penalties for false answers to the question.

His declaration had seemed to be contradicted by social media posts showing him traveling between Spain and Serbia. On Wednesday, he said his agent had made an “administrative mistake in ticking the incorrect box.”

“This was a human error and certainly not deliberate,” he said, adding that his team on Wednesday had “provided additional information to the Australian government to clarify the matter.”

This means it is unlikely that the saga will be resolved quickly, with the immigration minister, Alex Hawke, indicating that he needed more time to consider the new information before deciding whether to cancel Mr. Djokovic’s visa again.
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Whatever laws he broke, well he shouldn't be above the law.
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he has obviously flouted covid guidelines and his reckless behavior puts others at risk. The court has decided to let him in. The tournament has the authority and the responsibility to keep competitors, staff, officials and fans safe. They can impose a daily test as a means to do so. If he wants to play, take a daily test...just like pro athletes in the US.
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A man wakes from a coma. His wife changes our of her black dress, and irritated, says "I really can't depend on you for anything"
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
A man wakes from a coma. His wife changes our of her black dress, and irritated, says "I really can't depend on you for anything"

old Jewish guy on his death bed, calls his wife over and says "I see you bought some knishes. I'd love to have one before I die".
Wife says "NO! They're for the Shiva".


look it up ray. it's worth it.
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I can help. See, a knish is a traditional Jewish snack consisting of a filling covered in dough. Usually baked but sometimes fried
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very good. the best are filled with brisket. sometimes potatoes.
but let him look up shiva...
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I knew that, but I chuckled more at my answer
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with that in mind, I let it go that I've not had a fried knish...but several years ago I hosted a MAhole Herf and late in the day grabbed some not completely defrosted knishes that I had from my deli guy who makes the best in the world.
Tossed them on the grill that was on all day and a few got a little burnt, but the guys loved them...especially rman!

Weather sucked but a great turnout...rman, tailgater, Buckey, fiddler, edin508 (mia), stinkdyr (mia), mandobro and Joan (mia),
I forget who else.
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isn't a shiva a home-made sharp and pointy thing that is used to stab somebody in the back?
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I thought Shiva was a Hindu deity.
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frankj1 wrote:
with that in mind, I let it go that I've not had a fried knish...but several years ago I hosted a MAhole Herf and late in the day grabbed some not completely defrosted knishes that I had from my deli guy who makes the best in the world.
Tossed them on the grill that was on all day and a few got a little burnt, but the guys loved them...especially rman!

Weather sucked but a great turnout...rman, tailgater, Buckey, fiddler, edin508 (mia), stinkdyr (mia), mandobro and Joan (mia),
I forget who else.


You are a great host. I don't specifically remember the knishes although I probably ate a handful of them. (I'm getting to the age that if I remember specifically what I did a week ago, it's an accomplishment). I do remember a large selection of food and apps to chow on and a welcoming and warm environment to share with folks that I'd never prolly meet unless we shared the same little silly hobby.

I don't remember the weather sucking though. Kinda gray but not sucky. Shoot, Basic Patrick and Gandalf (they don't post here anymore) used to host an awesome annual weekend herf on the Cape. Herf at one guys house one day, then the other another day. One year a hurricane was breaking up as it climbed up the eastern coast (Summer Nor' Easter). The outdoor canopy patio gazebo thingy Patrick set up almost went for a sail a few times.

Luck would have it, he had one of them pod things (mini container truck thingies) dropped off in his driveway because he was putting some stuff in storage or something. That container was the herf place for the night as the storm went though. About 15 folks sitting in lawn chairs in a 20 ft semi trailer, smoking cigars and bantering about stupid $hit.

I have some great memories related to a silly hobby of smoking cigars.
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frankj1 wrote:
old Jewish guy on his death bed, calls his wife over and says "I see you bought some knishes. I'd love to have one before I die".
Wife says "NO! They're for the Shiva".


look it up ray. it's worth it.

That reminds me of my aunt, who on her deathbed- during her final 1/2 hour of life, lectured my cousin about which china and silverware to use and how to set the house up at her Shiva! I especially loved it because it was a PRICELESS aunt Susan!!!
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BuckyB93 wrote:
You are a great host. I don't specifically remember the knishes although I probably ate a handful of them. (I'm getting to the age that if I remember specifically what I did a week ago, it's an accomplishment). I do remember a large selection of food and apps to chow on and a welcoming and warm environment to share with folks that I'd never prolly meet unless we shared the same little silly hobby.

I don't remember the weather sucking though. Kinda gray but not sucky. Shoot, Basic Patrick and Gandalf (they don't post here anymore) used to host an awesome annual weekend herf on the Cape. Herf at one guys house one day, then the other another day. One year a hurricane was breaking up as it climbed up the eastern coast (Summer Nor' Easter). The outdoor canopy patio gazebo thingy Patrick set up almost went for a sail a few times.

Luck would have it, he had one of them pod things (mini container truck thingies) dropped off in his driveway because he was putting some stuff in storage or something. That container was the herf place for the night as the storm went though. About 15 folks sitting in lawn chairs in a 20 ft semi trailer, smoking cigars and bantering about stupid $hit.

I have some great memories related to a silly hobby of smoking cigars.

glad you told this story cuz I totally forgot that Basic Patrick showed up here late in the afternoon! Last I heard he used to play cards on Thursday nights in the back room of a cigar shpo in Watertown and might have taken a job in another cigar shpo in Hyannis.
Tail might know, being the Ambassador for Cape Cod and stuff.

I didn't do much aside from having a backyard and patio. Joe (tail) brought a ton of venison stew or chili and Rick (RMan) provided a massive amount of tacos. Both brought their tailgating setups...tables and coleman stoves and stuff.
Others brought stuff too, Don (mandobro...heard he's retired) had some awesome homebrews, Ed (edin508) brought a drone!...I probably forgot more than I remember. You left us with something really good, don't think you ate any before you left but it was good, just can't remember what it was.
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rfenst wrote:
That reminds me of my aunt, who on her deathbed- during her final 1/2 hour of life, lectured my cousin about which china and silverware to use and how to set the house up at her Shiva! I especially loved it because it was a PRICELESS aunt Susan!!!

what a great Seinfeld episode that could have been!
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ZRX1200 wrote:
**** WAPO.

He got an exemption and the Aussie fascists are pissing on their bush to mark their territory and acting the fool.



The exemption was granted based on an application that was lied on...
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frankj1 wrote:
what a great Seinfeld episode that could have been!

Or, Larry David!
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The exemption was granted based on an application that was lied on...

Yup.
In my world the solution now is "Get the F Out" now!!! Period.
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Ok then, quarantine till tests ok and send him back.

This was a complete 💩 show done for the very purpose this thread illustrates. Rules for Radicals.
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Ok then, quarantine till tests ok and send him back.

This was a complete 💩 show done for the very purpose this thread illustrates. Rules for Radicals.

What, pray tell, is the very purpose of this thread?
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I think he created his own **** sorm by lying on his Visa application. Not only could he be in legal trouble in Australia, but Serbia and Spain as well. I imagine this will blow over without incident because he gets to live by a different set of rules because he is rich and famous, just like people from Hollywood do.
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Spey except he isn’t down for the struggle……so caveat emptor.

Counselor not your purpose.
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Even people who are good for nothing have the capacity yo bring a smile to your face, like when they fall down the stairs
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Novak Djokovic’s Visa Is Canceled Again by Australia

The action came days after a judge overruled border officials and allowed the tennis star to stay. Djokovic’s lawyers said they would appeal the decision, with the start of the Australian Open three days away.

NYT

Novak Djokovic, the Serbian tennis star, had his visa revoked for a second time by the Australian authorities on Friday and was set to be detained again on Saturday, the latest dizzying volley in a drawn-out drama over his refusal to be vaccinated for Covid-19.

Australia’s immigration minister, Alex Hawke, said in a statement that he was canceling Djokovic’s visa on the grounds of “health and good order,” adding that it was in the public interest to do so. Djokovic’s lawyers said they would file an appeal immediately, with the Australian Open starting on Monday.

Hawke took the action four days after Djokovic won a legal victory that freed him from immigration detention, where he had been held since arriving at a Melbourne airport last week.

Explaining his decision to revoke the visa, the minister said that the Australian government was committed to protecting the country’s borders during the pandemic.

Djokovic’s lawyers said at a circuit court hearing on Friday night that they would challenge the decision, and a judge ordered the government not to deport him while the appeal was being heard.

After that hearing, the case was transferred to a different judge, David O’Callaghan of the Federal Court of Australia. He will preside over a new hearing at 10:15 a.m. on Saturday.

Legal experts said Djokovic might have little chance of having the decision overturned, despite winning his first round in court earlier this week on narrow procedural grounds.

Mary Crock, a law professor at the University of Sydney, said it would be “very, very hard” for Djokovic to win any appeal. “The rules of natural justice and procedure don’t apply,” she said. So the only way he succeed in an appeal would be to prove there is no public-interest basis on which the visa could have been canceled.

A federal investigation led by Hawke had revealed that Djokovic provided false information on the documents he gave to border officials when he tried to enter Australia last week.

Those documents failed to state that Djokovic, who lives in Monte Carlo, had traveled between Serbia and Spain during the 14 days ahead of his arrival in Australia.

In a post on social media on Wednesday, Djokovic acknowledged the misstatements and addressed questions about his movements in the days before and after his positive test for the coronavirus on Dec. 16. That test result had allowed him to gain an exemption from state health officials in Victoria to play in the Australian Open, where he is the defending champion, despite being unvaccinated.

“I just want to have the opportunity to compete against the best players in the world and perform before one of the best crowds in the world,” Djokovic said in the post.

Djokovic arrived in Australia late on Jan. 5, but hours later, and after an airport interview, border officials canceled his visa, saying he remained subject to a requirement that everyone entering the country be fully vaccinated. He spent five days at a hotel for refugees and asylum seekers, until a judge on Monday found that he had been treated unfairly, and ordered Djokovic released with his visa restored.

The court ruling did not put an end to the case, but rather shifted its focus to Djokovic’s supporting documents, the legitimacy of his coronavirus test and basic questions about what Djokovic knew about his diagnosis and when he knew it.

Legally, Hawke, the immigration minister, can cancel a visa on character grounds or if he finds records to be false, or if he believes the visa’s recipient poses a health or safety risk. Hawke made his decision as Australia is in the midst of its worst bout with the coronavirus.
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The Australian Open is illegitimate.

Argh! Tennis insurrection!
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When I see lovers' initials carved into a tree, I don't think it's cute. I think it's weird how many people take knives with them on dates
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Tennis NAZI'S!

Argh!

The guy had COVID, so now he has immunity, not like those VAXXED tyrants.
And they still want him to take the JAB?
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Federal Court of Australia revoked Djokovic's visa. Apparently, he has no legal recourse within sufficient time to play in the tournament. They are supposedly going to put him on a plane/his plane and send him off.
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To teach the kids about democracy, I let them vote on dinner. They picked tacos. Then I made pizza because they don't live in a swing state
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Usually deportation from Australia includes a 3 year ban on returning to Australia. It will be interesting to see if this deportation includes the same ban.
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I know the authoritarians here are rejoicing at the Federal Court of Australia's decision but you probably missed this,,,

Australian Open: Tennis Players Dropping Like Flies

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Three tennis players have pulled out of the Australian Open so far due to “breathing difficulties”. Let’s just come out and say it. The vaccine is the virus.

From Free West Media:

All the tennis players currently participating in the professional tennis tournament have been fully vaccinated. The world number 22 was however seen leaving the court and abandoning his match while clutching his chest with respiratory difficulties in an ATP match. Nikoloz Basilashvili told his team that “every shot I’m out of breath”.

Colin Fleming, a commentator for Stan Sport, described Basilashvili’s symptoms as “very concerning” and added: “If you feel like you can’t take any kind of deep breath at this level and this intensity, that’s an issue.”

Tennis website OpenCourt claimed Basilashvili “may have been recovering from Covid”, but this could not be verified. “[He] told the trainer he had Covid ’10 days ago’,” the outlet said on social media.

His contender Stefanos Tsitsipas instead blamed the heat, not Covid, for Basilashvili dropping out in an interview with Tennis World USA: “Sometimes it’s a bit too hot. You could fry an egg on the court, but we are ready for difficult matches and also the excitement.” Clearly the heat had not bothered other players and some had even welcomed the weather conditions in Melbourne.

Dalila Jakupovic, who was forced to retire from her match after having dropped to the ground, told news outlet The Western Australian: “I was really scared that I would collapse. That’s why I went onto the floor because I couldn’t walk anymore. I don’t have asthma and never had breathing problems. I actually like heat. The physio came again and I thought it would be better. But the points were a bit longer and I just couldn’t breathe anymore and I just fell on the floor.”

Nick Kyrgios, the world’ number 93 player suffered breathing difficulties in the morning and pulled out of the match six hours before he was meant to play.

Bernard Tomic also had to take medical time out after complaining of breathing difficulties during the early stages of the second set, but he managed to soldier on. “No air is going in. I’m getting tired so easy,” Tomic was heard telling medical staff. “Is anyone else complaining today?” he wanted to know. “No, it’s been okay,” said the medic.

The panicked organizers of the Australian Open now blame the poor “air quality” which appears to be targeting only some players. Melbourne’s air quality is ranked as “good” by international standards.

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https://xyz.net.au/2022/01/australian-open-tennis-players-dropping-like-flies/
delta1 Offline
#41 Posted:
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same folks outraged by Australia's treatment of Djokovic supported Trump's many blanket travel bans to the US from various countries where infection rates were high, and yet many uninfected persons from those countries were lumped in with suspected infectious people and denied their liberty to travel here to visit, in some cases, dying relatives...Djokovic only wants to play a game to make some money...

I guess sovereignty of nations is suspect to some folks...except if they agree with the sovereign...
HockeyDad Offline
#42 Posted:
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Argh!
delta1 wrote:
same folks outraged by Australia's treatment of Djokovic supported Trump's many blanket travel bans to the US from various countries where infection rates were high, and yet many uninfected persons from those countries were lumped in with suspected infectious people and denied their liberty to travel here to visit, in some cases, dying relatives...Djokovic only wants to play a game to make some money...

I guess sovereignty of nations is suspect to some folks...except if they agree with the sovereign...


Argh! Trump!
rfenst Offline
#43 Posted:
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Now he can't enter Australia for three more years. Serves him right.
Game, Set, Match!
RayR Offline
#44 Posted:
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He's probably better off sitting it out, maybe someday Austrailia will no longer a progtard penal colony and be civilized again.
Speyside2 Offline
#45 Posted:
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^ LMAO! I hope you see the humor in calling Australia a penal colony if you consider history.
Speyside2 Offline
#46 Posted:
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Also, without being vaccinated he is ineligible to play in the US tournament in New York City at Flushing meadows.
HockeyDad Offline
#47 Posted:
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Pretty sure you can cross the French Open off.

Sometimes open isn’t open.
Speyside2 Offline
#48 Posted:
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He is ineligible for the French open as well. Right now it appears the only major he can play in is Wimbledon.
RayR Offline
#49 Posted:
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I hear France is a COVID penal colony too and the peeps are getting restless and want to storm the Bastille. I'll Viva that La Revolution!
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#50 Posted:
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I just think it's funny that this hubub is over the guy not having a vaccine that the CEO of Pfizer himself said really does not protect you against Omicron (two dose). Do the various tennis bodies require one or more boosters, too?

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/10/pfizer-ceo-says-two-covid-vaccine-doses-arent-enough-for-omicron.html
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