Speyside2 wrote:You are good at finding information. I would love to know what percentage of people hospitalized, in ICU, on ventilators, and dead, have comorbidities and on average how many do they have. I think that information would be very helpful in deciding to vaccinate or not vaccinate. Have you seen anything about what I am curious about?
I tried to gain information here first of all places. Believe it or not, this site is a cornucopia of information. All walks of life and such a varied background, it really is amazing. All I got from medical insiders was "follow the data" and when I pushed on it was sent to a clearing house of links which all pointed to the CDC! Hardly what anyone can call real information. They've been wrong more than they were right. As far as getting any real data on Covid, you cannot. It's all factored in to Covid. Suffer a death in a motorcycle crash...COVID. Overdose...COVID. I started scratchin around other nations medical data and found Sweden as the "control group" with no lockdowns and compared Israel being the highest vaccinated. I knew there were games afoot when you couldn't get real numbers on common flu deaths. Matter of fact you got this...
https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/amid-covid-outbreak-no-flu-infections-recorded-in-israel-this-season-654095We all know that isn't accurate. The world hasn't eradicated the flu. They just stopped recording about it accurately. Then there were the talking heads muttering about the Black Plague and catastrophic death counts. Hospitals adding refrigerated tractor trailers to house the dead because their morgues and the county ones were overfilling. That wasn't happening. When President Trump made 2 Red Cross vessels available as roving hospitals and a field hospital installed in Central Park and they went unused the "red alarms" inside me went off. All the while we were told 2 weeks to flatten the curve so the hospitals weren't overrun. Instead we witnessed hospital closings and layoffs across the nation. That doesn't sound like bodies stacked up like cord wood in any way shape or fashion. We were told masks don't work. Then we found out Fauci lied so he could save this hidden supply of PPE for hospitals. We were told to mask up, wash your hands and stay 6 feet away from everybody...including family that doesn't live in your own home. Then it became 2 masks. Then there were the "Essentials" that were called into action to lead the fight so we could save Humanity. That was a joke. I did enjoy the time where the morons weren't on the road and had it all to myself. Ultimately, we were lied to. Each and every opportunity just lied to. "Get the vaccine and we'll eradicate Covid!", "Save grandma and get the shot" and my personal favorite lie that this is "a pandemic of the unvaccinated.". Then we got a vaccine. We were told it was safe, effective and was going to end Covid. Lies on all 3 there. The VAERS information should point anyone looking to kinda what you're looking for. GOOD LUCK! That's a hodgepodge of crap as well. I forget where I heard it but it made total sense, "Any time Science goes up against Politics, Science loses."...that's what we have here. The nation didn't' want harsh talk and mean tweets. It wanted a Creepy Grandpa that swore he would shut down Covid, not the economy. He was never going to do that...ever. Here we are. Zero accountability and an endless supply of US taxpayer dollars being tossed out the window for masks and tests that won't pick up the newest variant in time to stop any spread. More deaths and we were told that the last guy should've resigned over 220,000 deaths without a vaccine than the over 417,000 with one! By the same guy I might add who wanted Trump to resign. Bold talk, zero action.
No, Spey this is a matter where we will never know clear data on death counts and infection rates on any category. There is too much money to be made and the "copper tops" well, they have to keep on keeping on. It maddening and it's sad because we look to the scientific community to get it right. They're guilty in this mess as well. They cannot even tell us where it came from (even though we ALL know), or whom funded it (we ALL know). If you've talked with your medical doctors and they tell you advice/consul that you feel you should act on then you should do it. To ridicule, berate or laugh at others that didn't take the advice you did...well...speaks volumes. This is a nation still predicated on individual freedoms. Most forgot that and want to live in an Orwellian fascist state where "OBEY!" is all you need to know and do. I really wish we had a vaccine that would cure Covid. The reality is we don't and it's never going to be a zero sum game. It's here and it's here to stay. I'm not going to argue the difference between a shot and a vaccine. I have my definition and well, the officials are changing theirs to fit their narrative of Control. We lived through a very dark time in this nation. We allowed our government to roll us over because they said it was for the betterment of society and they knew better. Rolled over. Thank the Lord that they didn't get their ultimate wish.