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Big Papi, the Hall is calling
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frankj1 Offline
#1 Posted: Tue, Jan 25 2022, 8:07 PM EST
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Ortiz made it, first ballot.
Speyside2 Offline
#2 Posted: Tue, Jan 25 2022, 8:29 PM EST
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Kinda nice to see him get in.
8trackdisco Offline
#3 Posted: Tue, Jan 25 2022, 8:37 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
Ortiz made it, first ballot.


He brought me so much joy.
He lived about 20 minutes south of Green Bay and married a local girl.
2004 was an emotional year- got my ass kicked by two Yankee fans that summer. FIL died of cancer in September. Sox won it all in October.

Was so happy with the WS win, I bought a red rose for every person in our office.

Congrats, Big Papi.
ZRX1200 Offline
#4 Posted: Tue, Jan 25 2022, 8:52 PM EST
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RogerClemens wrote:
I’m pissed.
8trackdisco Offline
#5 Posted: Tue, Jan 25 2022, 8:55 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Roger Clemens


You aren't pissed, Roger. You are misremembering.
delta1 Offline
#6 Posted: Tue, Jan 25 2022, 8:56 PM EST
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he was/is a class act...congrats on being the only player voted in this year


Clemens and Bonds would have been for sure HOFers w/o the PED use...they didn't need to use them
MACS Offline
#7 Posted: Tue, Jan 25 2022, 8:58 PM EST
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Congrats to David Ortiz, aka Big Papi.

Much deserved.
8trackdisco Offline
#8 Posted: Tue, Jan 25 2022, 8:58 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
he was/is a class act...congrats on being the only player voted in this year


Very good at launching long shots.
Not so good at taking shots in the Caribbean.
Palama Offline
#9 Posted: Tue, Jan 25 2022, 9:32 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
Ortiz made it, first ballot.


Applause

Best Big Papi moment:

https://fb.watch/aMq-2Wrl6g/
tailgater Offline
#10 Posted: Tue, Jan 25 2022, 9:36 PM EST
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Baseball writers who vote on this are a bunch of self serving douche nozzles.

Papi smiled.
And did PEDs.
So he's in.


Schilling is Big Papi on the mound.
Greatest post season pitcher of his era.
His numbers improved into October like none of his peers.

Schilling never did PEDs.
But he had some extreme tweets.
So he's not in.

The writers will point to the doll where Schilling hurt them.

The hall is a joke.
tailgater Offline
#11 Posted: Tue, Jan 25 2022, 9:39 PM EST
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Palama wrote:
Applause

Best Big Papi moment:

https://fb.watch/aMq-2Wrl6g/


Nope.
This:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoTnGa-Dckw
Whistlebritches Offline
#12 Posted: Tue, Jan 25 2022, 9:58 PM EST
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Basuhball been berry berry gude to me


Congrats Big Papi.........well deserved
ZRX1200 Offline
#13 Posted: Tue, Jan 25 2022, 10:50 PM EST
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Tail, I agree except I don’t think Curt’s comments were ever “extreme”.

I’ve hated baseball writers for a long time. They’re petty little children who have a false sense of self worth.
MACS Offline
#14 Posted: Tue, Jan 25 2022, 11:12 PM EST
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ESPN Writer Jeff Passan said it best. The Hall of Fame is like a museum about baseball history, and you can't tell that story without the guy who hit the most home runs ever, the most homers in a season, etc... and Pete Rose? Come the f--- on, man... best player ever and he's not in?

Who the f--- do the "writers" think they are? Douchenozzles, all of 'em.
frankj1 Offline
#15 Posted: Tue, Jan 25 2022, 11:24 PM EST
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Schilling was excellent, yet a borderline Hall of Famer.
Not saying he's not, but not convinced it's obvious either.

Well behind several pitchers who did more for longer and never made it, but still a great pitcher.
This libturd fan would and did pay to see him play more than a few times. OK, some of the tickets were free. But I was a fan and admirer of his baseball skills. I can separate. Don't care what he believes nearly as much as if he had good command once every 5 days.

Other very unpopular fellers eventually made it in despite slipping under the stupid "character" requirement bar...Ty Cobb allegedly beat a Black guy to death! Schilling is hardly the first far right winger in baseball or any sport. And the writers have had their share as well.

Though I think there's no reason to compare them, Papi's name was leaked as testing positive for an undisclosed substance (lots of things that could have been) more than a decade before he retired
and he never tested positive again for anything for the rest of his career.

His numbers are very obvious. Schilling's are close.
But clear separation of the levels each was on.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#16 Posted: Tue, Jan 25 2022, 11:35 PM EST
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Free Charlie Hustle!!!!
Palama Offline
#17 Posted: Tue, Jan 25 2022, 11:58 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Nope.
This:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoTnGa-Dckw


Applause

Definitely top two…not two.
tailgater Offline
#18 Posted: Wed, Jan 26 2022, 10:13 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
Schilling was excellent, yet a borderline Hall of Famer.
Not saying he's not, but not convinced it's obvious either.

Well behind several pitchers who did more for longer and never made it, but still a great pitcher.
This libturd fan would and did pay to see him play more than a few times. OK, some of the tickets were free. But I was a fan and admirer of his baseball skills. I can separate. Don't care what he believes nearly as much as if he had good command once every 5 days.

Other very unpopular fellers eventually made it in despite slipping under the stupid "character" requirement bar...Ty Cobb allegedly beat a Black guy to death! Schilling is hardly the first far right winger in baseball or any sport. And the writers have had their share as well.

Though I think there's no reason to compare them, Papi's name was leaked as testing positive for an undisclosed substance (lots of things that could have been) more than a decade before he retired
and he never tested positive again for anything for the rest of his career.

His numbers are very obvious. Schilling's are close.
But clear separation of the levels each was on.


Schilling is merely mortal until the post season starts.
Nobody was better after 162 than he was during his career. No one.
Ask any Yankee fan during that time who powned them.

Eli Manning is in his respective HOF. He's crap in the regular season.
Playoffs and championships mean something.


Also, I luvs me some Big Papi.
But he tested positive as a cheater. The undisclosed substance would have been made known if it were not PEDs.
Schilling did the opposite. He was one of the few to pizz off other players by speaking out against roids.

He would be in the hall if some of the liberal writers didn't get their vajajay hurt.
No question about it.
frankj1 Offline
#19 Posted: Wed, Jan 26 2022, 11:05 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Schilling is merely mortal until the post season starts.
Nobody was better after 162 than he was during his career. No one.
Ask any Yankee fan during that time who powned them.

Eli Manning is in his respective HOF. He's crap in the regular season.
Playoffs and championships mean something.


Also, I luvs me some Big Papi.
But he tested positive as a cheater. The undisclosed substance would have been made known if it were not PEDs.
Schilling did the opposite. He was one of the few to pizz off other players by speaking out against roids.

He would be in the hall if some of the liberal writers didn't get their vajajay hurt.
No question about it.


interestingly enough, I think of him as well above average in the regular season, though not the guy you think of at all as the best in his 20 years. I think he even had several seasons losing more than he won.

Great in the post season. Tremendous. But like what...20 games? I don't really know. And so many pitchers before him for whom playoff appearances meant World Series or nuthin'. No ALCS, no Play-Ins or whatever else they call it. In another time, he would have had maybe 7 post season opportunities.

HoF is really more about the body of work over 20 years. Should Ted Williams be out cuz he was in 1 world series and didn't do well? Absurd, he may have been the greatest hitter evah.

So what do we tell Tommy John and Jim Kaat, both won more than 280 games! 280 should get you in.
Schilling was more in the class of really good, but borderline Hall guys like Hershiser, Vida Blue (who also won 3 WS titles I think), Jim Perry, even fricken Kevin Brown was comparable.

NFL Hall of Fame? Everyone gets in. Hey, I made it to the final 50 all the years I was eligible and, as you may know, my best season was freshman year of High School before I tore up my knee.
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#20 Posted: Thu, Jan 27 2022, 9:57 AM EST
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Baseball writers have long been proven to be total douchebags that ought to have their voting memberships reconsidered. The guys that refused to vote for a player because some player 80 years ago wasn’t unanimous so no other player should be ought to lose their vote. The guys that refused to vote for any player that played in a particular era because PEDs were prominent in that era ought to lose their vote. Then ironically those same morons vote somebody in that cheated (yet is the smiling lovable character) and other alleged cheats in recent years, while ignoring more prominent cheats are hypocrites. The benchmark for getting in just gets lower and lower, because all you have to do is say “player x” got in so this candidate deserves entry as well. Time to wipe the slate at the Hall of Very Good clean and start all over. Also, as for Pete Rose, he signed a lifetime ban excluding himself from ever getting in the HOF. We know a lot of what he did, but I wonder what else he did that was kept under wraps while he plea bargained a life sentence…guess we’ll find out the next time he needs to sell a book or profit in some other way. And btw, his stuff is in the hall and on display (he’s just not an inducted member) so a trip through Cooperstown could be complete discussing the hit leader.
tailgater Offline
#21 Posted: Thu, Jan 27 2022, 9:30 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
interestingly enough, I think of him as well above average in the regular season, though not the guy you think of at all as the best in his 20 years. I think he even had several seasons losing more than he won.

Great in the post season. Tremendous. But like what...20 games? I don't really know. And so many pitchers before him for whom playoff appearances meant World Series or nuthin'. No ALCS, no Play-Ins or whatever else they call it. In another time, he would have had maybe 7 post season opportunities.

HoF is really more about the body of work over 20 years. Should Ted Williams be out cuz he was in 1 world series and didn't do well? Absurd, he may have been the greatest hitter evah.

So what do we tell Tommy John and Jim Kaat, both won more than 280 games! 280 should get you in.
Schilling was more in the class of really good, but borderline Hall guys like Hershiser, Vida Blue (who also won 3 WS titles I think), Jim Perry, even fricken Kevin Brown was comparable.

NFL Hall of Fame? Everyone gets in. Hey, I made it to the final 50 all the years I was eligible and, as you may know, my best season was freshman year of High School before I tore up my knee.


Tore up your knee?
Was that you genuflecting with Pelosi and Chuckkk during that blm nonsense?
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#22 Posted: Sat, Jan 29 2022, 8:46 AM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Baseball writers who vote on this are a bunch of self serving douche nozzles.

Papi smiled.
And did PEDs.
So he's in.


Schilling is Big Papi on the mound.
Greatest post season pitcher of his era.
His numbers improved into October like none of his peers.

Schilling never did PEDs.
But he had some extreme tweets.
So he's not in.

The writers will point to the doll where Schilling hurt them.

The hall is a joke.





AGREED! Nuff said.
frankj1 Offline
#23 Posted: Sat, Jan 29 2022, 10:00 AM EST
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FRANK!!!
How ya feelin'?
tailgater Offline
#24 Posted: Sat, Jan 29 2022, 10:12 AM EST
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streetrod wrote:
AGREED! Nuff said.


End of times is near!
tailgater Offline
#25 Posted: Sat, Jan 29 2022, 10:13 AM EST
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So this yankee fan, a giants fan, and a cigar smoker walk into a bar.

His name was Streetrod.
frankj1 Offline
#26 Posted: Sat, Jan 29 2022, 12:17 PM EST
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he still can't smoke in there.
ZRX1200 Offline
#27 Posted: Sun, Jan 30 2022, 6:27 PM EST
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Frank I agree I think he was closer to boarder line than unanimous.

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#28 Posted: Sun, Jan 30 2022, 10:52 PM EST
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Frank, big Papi was a money player. He carried them at times and loved pressure. Aside from the steroids, I would never vote in Sammy Sosa. Most of his home runs were bases empty. Put men on base and he was near the Mendoza line. The body of work needs a deep look. Though yes, Ted belongs there. A guy who I think got screwed is Lew Whitaker. Put him in NYC or Boston and he would be in.
frankj1 Offline
#29 Posted: Sun, Jan 30 2022, 11:20 PM EST
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Whitaker played a tough position for HoF...but he belongs.
Great up-the-middle combo with Trammel
tailgater Offline
#30 Posted: Thu, Feb 3 2022, 9:15 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
Whitaker played a tough position for HoF...but he belongs.
Great up-the-middle combo with Trammel


Tinkers to Evers to Chance.
frankj1 Offline
#31 Posted: Fri, Feb 4 2022, 12:05 AM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Tinkers to Evers to Chance.


how old are you, really?
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