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voter registration and racism
ZRX1200 Offline
#51 Posted:
Joined: 07-08-2007
Posts: 60,476
Or maybe they want the integrity of the votes and their validity ensured?

That doesn’t sound racist-y though…
bgz Offline
#52 Posted:
Joined: 07-29-2014
Posts: 13,023
tailgater wrote:

I asked a seemingly simple question and you yourself called me racist.
For asking a question.

Not sure what they taught you on the reservation, ...



I call you a racist because you are a racist.

I choose not to respectfully interact with you because you are a racist.

Speyside2 Offline
#53 Posted:
Joined: 11-11-2021
Posts: 2,304
Tail after a quick review I would say none of the new voting laws are racist, though a few I would say are unethical. Interested enough 33 states enacted laws to tighten voting, 25 states enacted laws to loosen voting. Below is a good snapshot article though it is biased.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/voting-laws-roundup-october-2021
frankj1 Offline
#54 Posted:
Joined: 02-08-2007
Posts: 44,211
tailgater wrote:
Frank,
You know that most people automatically think about voter ID when they hear about suppression.
It's been a buzz word for a long time.

Somehow, people think it's racist to require an ID to vote.

It's been said so many times it's almost just accepted as fact.
Yet the very premise itself is racist.
Why would a person of color be less able to procure an ID. Especially when that ID would be free of charge if that's an impediment.


So I agree with you that gerrymandering the polling locations isn't typically done with good intentions. But is that based on race? Or politics? Because redistricting is common place in our own state. Is that racist? (I never thought so, but that's not my go-to outcry like it is for the libs).

I don't think the national outcry is over a closed ballot box. Too easy to showcase, and too easy to remedy without the hoopla.

What I do know is that I won't get an honest answer from these boards.
Which is too bad.
Used to be that behind the name calling and jokes a person could learn another perspective.

Used to be.


I sort of implied that race(s) might be a casualty of suppressing the voter turnout especially if the plan is to win by having less people vote for the opposition than by winning them over.
I also can't give a reason to not have voter ID's, or exactly why they are racist...maybe I missed that email from Headquarters?

I still haven't read anymore on the subject since my last post but questions do come to my Liberal leaning mind just going from memories of the last election...and my version of liberal inferences...
such as, why did it seem that people who had to wait for 4, 5 and even 6 hours on line to vote were almost all in areas with far more non-white voters? Supposedly less open polling places, but why were those limited to minority densely populated areas? And why seemingly red states?

Yet people did wait, regardless of weather and stuff, and then new laws (not voter ID, I'm good wif that) like no food or drink or place holding for bathroom breaks while in line...wtf is that about? How does that ensure integrity of the vote?
Just guessing it's really meant to discourage actually voting!

From older research on this subject, I seem to recall that the history of election tampering convictions is heavily weighted toward Republicans including 2020, yet so few total problems that it caused me then (and is rekindled today) to wonder why the passion to create all these new laws? What's really the impetus?

Campaigns are run by slick politically savvy connected marketing people who know how to isolate and target a market to manipulate it in ways that help their causes.
But I'm also logical enough to realize lots of what I'm dancing around is circumstantial evidence, so there's that.

But (you didn't think I'd go that easy, HA!)

Most here would argue that we don't need new gun laws, just enforce the ones we have. Don't turn honest people into criminals, let them exercise their right.

And most here would be against creating laws to prevent any crime cuz that don't work, and we have enough laws as it is...

Well, we have voter fraud laws too and despite a few still howling in the dark, we really do know there was no significant voter fraud, widespread, organized, whatever, in the last election. Yet now the rush by the losing side to create all kinds of voting changes to prevent a crime that did not happen? Meh, tighten a few loopholes to make it tougher to commit the crimes that aren't happening but COULD and call it a day.

Like a picture ID, or something similar. Potential problems solved.

Way better than no water while waiting!

How about we continue to prosecute the handful of election law breakers and not make it harder for honest people to exercise their obligation?

Oops, I made a mistake. There may have been widespread criminal attempts to change the results of the last election. Just hearing about the phony documents presented to Pence. This is insane. And that Miller guy talks about it as though it's legit!

Fake Elector Outrage!




Dg west deptford Offline
#55 Posted:
Joined: 05-25-2019
Posts: 2,836
I can't be expected to have to get to a kinkos!

RACISTS!

do you look for a sign when the president shows up for a infrastructure photo op, no one will stand with him, ...
And a bridge collapses in catastrophic failure!

Infrastructure had the real photo op

We need a builder in order to build back better the bridge speaks
Sunoverbeach Offline
#56 Posted:
Joined: 08-11-2017
Posts: 14,586
Why is a skeleton so calm?
Nothing gets under its skin
tailgater Offline
#57 Posted:
Joined: 06-01-2000
Posts: 26,185
bgz wrote:
I call you a racist because you are a racist.

I choose not to respectfully interact with you because you are a racist.





If you want to call me racist, fine. You keyboard warriors always feel emboldened to be the man you can't be in real life.
I know everything I need to know about you already and it's obvious you know nothing about me except that I hurt your feelings too many times.

Oh well.
It's not like you added anything intelligent to the discussions anyhow.










tailgater Offline
#58 Posted:
Joined: 06-01-2000
Posts: 26,185
Speyside2 wrote:
Tail after a quick review I would say none of the new voting laws are racist, though a few I would say are unethical. Interested enough 33 states enacted laws to tighten voting, 25 states enacted laws to loosen voting. Below is a good snapshot article though it is biased.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/voting-laws-roundup-october-2021


I'll take a look at that link if I find the time. Thanks.

Your synopsis matches what I found in a brief search.
The accusation of voter suppression, especially suppression based on race, appears to be unfounded.
Yet it's the headlines for major news outlets.

Sunoverbeach Offline
#59 Posted:
Joined: 08-11-2017
Posts: 14,586
Patient: Doctor, I'm so nervous. This is my first operation
Doc: Don't worry. Mine too
bgz Offline
#60 Posted:
Joined: 07-29-2014
Posts: 13,023
tailgater wrote:
If you want to call me racist, fine. You keyboard warriors always feel emboldened to be the man you can't be in real life.
I know everything I need to know about you already and it's obvious you know nothing about me except that I hurt your feelings too many times.

Oh well.
It's not like you added anything intelligent to the discussions anyhow.



You're such a sagely racist... I'm glad you know me so well.

You know what they say... it it spews racist sh*t all the time, it's probably a racist.

Don't really need to know much more than that... don't really care to know much more than that.

For the record, you've never hurt my feelings.

Keyboard warrior... if you said racist sh*t to me in real life... I would call you a racist. If you swing on me because of it... well, good luck with that...

I ask you the same thing, big brown Native standing in front of you... do you call him an I*****?

I doubt it.
8trackdisco Offline
#61 Posted:
Joined: 11-06-2004
Posts: 59,992
rfenst wrote:
How can you ever compare the right to vote to the right to enter a bar? That's funny.


One is bordering on a waste of time and can end in a fight.

The other…… see above.
Whistlebritches Offline
#62 Posted:
Joined: 04-23-2006
Posts: 22,127
bgz wrote:
You're such a sagely racist... I'm glad you know me so well.

You know what they say... it it spews racist sh*t all the time, it's probably a racist.

Don't really need to know much more than that... don't really care to know much more than that.

For the record, you've never hurt my feelings.

Keyboard warrior... if you said racist sh*t to me in real life... I would call you a racist. If you swing on me because of it... well, good luck with that...

I ask you the same thing, big brown Native standing in front of you... do you call him an I*****?

I doubt it.


Dude as an Indian I find your political stance quite odd.................confounding in fact.My great Grandfather was full blood Cherokee,after growing up on a reservation the last thing he wanted was gubmint intervention and handouts.He was intelligent enough to recognize it was all smoke and mirrors leading to control.of your life and livelihood.


Did you grow up on a reservation???? Or were you one of the privileged few who grew up a wealthy native American??? My guess is the latter,raised with $$$ but the first one to bitch.


BTW go visit the rez sometime ............just pretending to be native American only hurts us all.
bgz Offline
#63 Posted:
Joined: 07-29-2014
Posts: 13,023
Whistlebritches wrote:
Dude as an Indian I find your political stance quite odd.................confounding in fact.My great Grandfather was full blood Cherokee,after growing up on a reservation the last thing he wanted was gubmint intervention and handouts.He was intelligent enough to recognize it was all smoke and mirrors leading to control.of your life and livelihood.


Did you grow up on a reservation???? Or were you one of the privileged few who grew up a wealthy native American??? My guess is the latter,raised with $$$ but the first one to bitch.


BTW go visit the rez sometime ............just pretending to be native American only hurts us all.


I'm real Indian mother f*cker...

What political stance you thinking I'm holding here you fake azz Cherokee... go look up the memes... anytime a white person claims to be Indian... we laugh and guess Cherokee. They ask how you know... you look like a Cherokee (at least all the ones I ever met).

Talking to me about the rez... growing up fat.... sh*t... you don't know sh*t... talking to me as if you are one of mine... you're not.

About the "political opinion" I hold...T here thinks I should be ok with him calling me derogatory terms about my race. That's what you're defending.

You can go f*ck your self you f*ckin pretendian mother f*cker.

Ignorant
tailgater Offline
#64 Posted:
Joined: 06-01-2000
Posts: 26,185
bgz wrote:
You're such a sagely racist... I'm glad you know me so well.

You know what they say... it it spews racist sh*t all the time, it's probably a racist.

Don't really need to know much more than that... don't really care to know much more than that.

For the record, you've never hurt my feelings.

Keyboard warrior... if you said racist sh*t to me in real life... I would call you a racist. If you swing on me because of it... well, good luck with that...

I ask you the same thing, big brown Native standing in front of you... do you call him an I*****?

I doubt it.


You fail to see the order of things.
I poke fun at YOU. Not at Native Americans as a whole.

Here's a newsflash: My great grandfather was as much as 1/4 Wompanoag. (there is some debate, so it might be less)
I live in a town that is home to the Wompanoag.
My neighborhood borders wompanoag tribal lands.
I have argued in favor of their ancestral rights at town meetings.
(I've also argued against some)
I will not tell you how many friends are Womanoag because it's too cliche, and truthfully that's not how I identify people.

I like to take down the bully.
You love jabbing people on these boards, and you call names.
But you can't stand when the favor is returned. You cry and double down.

Like I said before. I know you.
But you know nothing.
And You probably have to type standing up. Because I did hurt you.

tailgater Offline
#65 Posted:
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Posts: 26,185
bgz wrote:
I'm real Indian mother f*cker...

What political stance you thinking I'm holding here you fake azz Cherokee... go look up the memes... anytime a white person claims to be Indian... we laugh and guess Cherokee. They ask how you know... you look like a Cherokee (at least all the ones I ever met).

Talking to me about the rez... growing up fat.... sh*t... you don't know sh*t... talking to me as if you are one of mine... you're not.

About the "political opinion" I hold...T here thinks I should be ok with him calling me derogatory terms about my race. That's what you're defending.

You can go f*ck your self you f*ckin pretendian mother f*cker.

Ignorant


Funny thing.
When my great grandfather used to talk about his Indian heritage, we always assumed it was Apache or Cherokee. I'm not sure as a kid I could name any others.
Whistlebritches Offline
#66 Posted:
Joined: 04-23-2006
Posts: 22,127
bgz wrote:
I'm real Indian mother f*cker...

What political stance you thinking I'm holding here you fake azz Cherokee... go look up the memes... anytime a white person claims to be Indian... we laugh and guess Cherokee. They ask how you know... you look like a Cherokee (at least all the ones I ever met).

Talking to me about the rez... growing up fat.... sh*t... you don't know sh*t... talking to me as if you are one of mine... you're not.

About the "political opinion" I hold...T here thinks I should be ok with him calling me derogatory terms about my race. That's what you're defending.

You can go f*ck your self you f*ckin pretendian mother f*cker.

Ignorant



Damn.......all this time I thought you were a Mexican

You can believe what you want to.........but I think you're the liar Pablo

One of yours???? I do not belong to Man/Boy Lovers of America..................but whatever floats your boat,no judgement here

Bullpucky you're just an 8th grade drama queen.You can dish it out............but you're quite the little vagina at taking it.

Well I didn't **** myself but I did toss one off in your honor

Idiot!!!
Sunoverbeach Offline
#67 Posted:
Joined: 08-11-2017
Posts: 14,586
Huh. Tearjerker joke shoulda gone here

Grandma: Most people your age are married. Why aren't you?
Granddaughter: Most people your age are dead. Why aren't you?
bgz Offline
#68 Posted:
Joined: 07-29-2014
Posts: 13,023
Whistlebritches wrote:
Damn.......all this time I thought you were a Mexican

You can believe what you want to.........but I think you're the liar Pablo

One of yours???? I do not belong to Man/Boy Lovers of America..................but whatever floats your boat,no judgement here

Bullpucky you're just an 8th grade drama queen.You can dish it out............but you're quite the little vagina at taking it.

Well I didn't **** myself but I did toss one off in your honor

Idiot!!!


You're a white guy claiming to be Cherokee telling a true Native he should go back the rez...

You seriously don't see a problem with that?

Ok... do this... go to a rez... walk up to the homies, and tell them how they should be because you're a Cherokee, then when you get back, tell me how it went.

Idiot.

Edit:
Actually ... go to a Cherokee rez and do just that.
bgz Offline
#69 Posted:
Joined: 07-29-2014
Posts: 13,023
For better results, go at night.

And ya... I can dish it out.

I see how you dish it out... you join up with us, bob your head like you're sucking a d*ck, then show us your blowup f*ck toy with a foot long d*ck.

Don't say a word because you're too busy practicing that nob shlobbin...

Anytime you wanna talk about it, you just let me know.

Oh no guys... Whistle is going to bob his head and show us is blow up doll, wtf am I going to do...

gtfo with that sh*t.
bgz Offline
#70 Posted:
Joined: 07-29-2014
Posts: 13,023
Whistlebritches wrote:
Damn.......all this time I thought you were a Mexican

You can believe what you want to.........but I think you're the liar Pablo

I got papers b*tch.

Well I didn't **** myself but I did toss one off in your honor

I knew you liked to suck d*ck


tailgater Offline
#71 Posted:
Joined: 06-01-2000
Posts: 26,185
Well lookie there.

bgz is suggesting that whistle is sucking on pen!s.
In other words, he's saying that being gay is an insult.

Pick and choose what you think is offensive.

Then cry about it.

We've seen him do it with the mentally challenged.
Now it's homosexuals.



Dude is so fragile he needs a gofundme.




Whistlebritches Offline
#72 Posted:
Joined: 04-23-2006
Posts: 22,127
bgz wrote:
You're a white guy claiming to be Cherokee telling a true Native he should go back the rez...

You seriously don't see a problem with that?

Ok... do this... go to a rez... walk up to the homies, and tell them how they should be because you're a Cherokee, then when you get back, tell me how it went.

Idiot.

Edit:
Actually ... go to a Cherokee rez and do just that.


I said go "visit" the rez drama queen

No I don't since I too am a card carrying NATIVE AMERICAN.........1/8th will get you there moron.

I frequently visit the Kiowa-Choctaw rez............have a couple buddies who live in Duvol.Bout twice a year I visit my cousins in Catoosa,Cherokee Nation.We usually spend most of our time fishing on Verdigris River or Oologah Lake for blues and hybrid stripers.Dennis has a very nice 21' center console.So I guess I've covered all the bases Idiot.

Now go to your safe place and cry on mommies shoulder again............bad man hurt your feelings.

Learn to take it bitch!!!
Speyside2 Offline
#73 Posted:
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Posts: 2,304
LMAO, your native American card is called a CBID. Odd but true. Curious, why do you have one?
Whistlebritches Offline
#74 Posted:
Joined: 04-23-2006
Posts: 22,127
Speyside2 wrote:
LMAO, your native American card is called a CBID. Odd but true. Curious, why do you have one?



Medical benefits ......dohhhhhh
izonfire Offline
#75 Posted:
Joined: 12-09-2013
Posts: 8,642
Having fair elections is a European concept.
And as such, is inherently racist…
Speyside2 Offline
#76 Posted:
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Just like a libturd taking what other people's money paid for.
RMAN4443 Offline
#77 Posted:
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Speyside2 wrote:
Just like a libturd taking what other people's money paid for.

Are we still talking about the BLM hierarchy???Think
Sunoverbeach Offline
#78 Posted:
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What did the German Shepherd say during the Nuremberg trial?
I was just following odors
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