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This is why I'm not a fan of the RNC right now...
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bgz Offline
#1 Posted: Wed, Feb 9 2022, 11:17 AM EST
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2022/02/08/mcconnell-capitol-riot-violent-insurrection/6710131001/

The malignant narcissist and incessant whiner, the big orange is still spouting bs...

I wonder what percentage of the house RNC actually believes his stupid sh*t.

It's sh*t like this that makes the middle vote left... if you are endorsed by, liked by, haven't been talked sh*t by, or are otherwise hanging on the Orange freak's nuts (obviously I'm racist against orange people)... then I will not vote for you.

Basically if Trump likes you as a politician, then it's reasonable to assume that you are likely to be a bigger sh*t bag than the other guy...

I stand by that statement.
Speyside2 Offline
#2 Posted: Wed, Feb 9 2022, 1:05 PM EST
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^ +1
Brewha Offline
#3 Posted: Wed, Feb 9 2022, 5:21 PM EST
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Careful Ben - 45 is one our most successful criminals, and my yet get his dictatorship established in our country.
Though "reasonable political discourse" of course.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#4 Posted: Wed, Feb 9 2022, 6:42 PM EST
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I bet my friend $5 that he would drown in a lake. It was a bittersweet victory. He didn't pay up.
RayR Offline
#5 Posted: Wed, Feb 9 2022, 7:00 PM EST
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No sh*t like this would ever make me vote LEFT!
VOTING LEFT PROGTURD would be like cutting off my nose to spite my face.
That would be real DUMB, SHAMEFUL, and EMBARRASSING!
That's for peeps that are STUCK ON STUPID with BINARY THINKING.
Mr. Jones Offline
#6 Posted: Wed, Feb 9 2022, 8:12 PM EST
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Even McConnell is disagreeing with the RNC...

AND THAT DONT HAPPEN much...
bgz Offline
#7 Posted: Wed, Feb 9 2022, 8:30 PM EST
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RayR wrote:
No sh*t like this would ever make me vote LEFT!
VOTING LEFT PROGTURD would be like cutting off my nose to spite my face.
That would be real DUMB, SHAMEFUL, and EMBARRASSING!
That's for peeps that are STUCK ON STUPID with BINARY THINKING.


So it's better to think unitary then?
RayR Offline
#8 Posted: Wed, Feb 9 2022, 9:00 PM EST
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bgz wrote:
So it's better to think unitary then?


Geez...braindead troll retort. You've gotta do better Ben.
tailgater Offline
#9 Posted: Wed, Feb 9 2022, 9:03 PM EST
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"I'm so glad the DNC is such an upstanding organization"
-B. Sanders
bgz Offline
#10 Posted: Wed, Feb 9 2022, 9:14 PM EST
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RayR wrote:
Geez...braindead troll retort. You've gotta do better Ben.


Well... if it's not binary, and not unitary, then wtf is it then?

Your politics is starting to sound like those wokies.
bgz Offline
#11 Posted: Wed, Feb 9 2022, 9:15 PM EST
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Ray is non-binary, you heard it here first folks.
Whistlebritches Offline
#12 Posted: Wed, Feb 9 2022, 10:04 PM EST
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Ben in a two party system you are always picking between the lesser of two evils.We've needed a third party for a long time..........conservative libertarian would work fine for me.Fiscally conservative and socially libertarian........... My perfect world.If we can't have that I want a CONSERVATIVE republican party..........no more RINO's.
bgz Offline
#13 Posted: Wed, Feb 9 2022, 10:36 PM EST
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Which ones are the RINOs again?

IMO, the RINOs are the Trumpians.

But I'm looking through the perspective of a middle of the road guy.
Speyside2 Offline
#14 Posted: Wed, Feb 9 2022, 11:04 PM EST
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So there never was a Ray, just a they? It was so much easier when you just called they Pat.
bgz Offline
#15 Posted: Thu, Feb 10 2022, 8:15 AM EST
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Make it ez... go to StarWars land.


Let's go with Rae...


Apparently also means a female sheep...
Speyside2 Offline
#16 Posted: Thu, Feb 10 2022, 8:35 AM EST
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So now Izon, Corey, and prolly others will want to do Rae. Well, at least Z has a van by a river. Rae, you up for a gang bang with Z, Izon, and Corey?
RayR Offline
#17 Posted: Thu, Feb 10 2022, 9:37 AM EST
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bgz wrote:
Well... if it's not binary, and not unitary, then wtf is it then?

Your politics is starting to sound like those wokies.


You are trolling but I'm not biting.

You had other choices other than the Demented Progturd and Orange Man Bad.
But you chose the sheeple binary route, what you believed was the lesser of two evils, but why?
Voting out of some misguided idea of self-defense maybe? Because you believed Orange Man Bad was more dangerous than the Demented Progturd? Great choice Ben! LOL
bgz Offline
#18 Posted: Thu, Feb 10 2022, 10:12 AM EST
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Ya... unfortunately you have to pick one...

There are third choices... but it seems at this point to be a vote of protest.

I'm all for voting for whoever you want, but I usually pick between the usual two sh*tbags.

I usually pick the sh*tbag on the right... but this time the sh*t bag on the right was the biggest sh*tbag of them all... maybe the hugest sh*tbag evah.

So....

Now all there is to do is b*tch about the current sh*tbag.
Dg west deptford Offline
#19 Posted: Thu, Feb 10 2022, 11:30 AM EST
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Do you not like the RNC because they're not the party of free Crack pipes to black peoples?

I suppose it is racist that Conservatives would be against tax payer funded Crack pipes for the "underserved"

Hunter has his Crack pipe. It's not fair that po' black chile's don't have theirs.

Build back better!
Speyside2 Offline
#20 Posted: Thu, Feb 10 2022, 1:18 PM EST
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I'll go with the big lie for 500 Alex.
Sorry2outbidu Offline
#21 Posted: Thu, Feb 10 2022, 1:52 PM EST
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Agreed on a bunch of bags.
People who can only discourse in words like PROGTURD are not going to be taken seriously by anyone. And DG, you're clearly a racist asshat. Thanks for just putting it out there like that, so we know not to attempt to engage you on conversation.
That said ..
We're forming a three party system now. Intelligent Republicans will continue to move middle, while trumpets and democracts will continue to push towards the edges.
As bgz said, many of us will not vote for a trump lackey. I'll be pushing against all of them, in the primarys.
RayR Offline
#22 Posted: Thu, Feb 10 2022, 4:03 PM EST
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Anybody that is offended by the use of "PROGTURD" in discourse is prolly a PROGTURD that's incapable of engaging in intelligent conversation anyway.
A PROGTURD can describe anyone with a big government progressive angle, from far left commies to neoconservatives. Political party affiliations are not descriptive.
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#23 Posted: Thu, Feb 10 2022, 4:05 PM EST
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Speyside2 wrote:
I'll go with the big lie for 500 Alex.

""In 2022, a U.S. Department of Health and Human Services substance abuse harm reduction grant did require recipients to provide safer smoking kits to existing drug users. In distributing grants, priority would be given to applicants serving historically underserved communities," Snopes wrote in its fact-check."
Speyside2 Offline
#24 Posted: Thu, Feb 10 2022, 5:28 PM EST
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A safe smoking kit may contain alcohol swabs, lip balm, other materials to promote hygiene and reduce the transmission of diseases like HIV and hepatitis.

Sourced from USA Today.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#25 Posted: Thu, Feb 10 2022, 5:45 PM EST
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There's a lot of talk about starting families, but no one ever talks about finishing what they started
Dg west deptford Offline
#26 Posted: Thu, Feb 10 2022, 5:46 PM EST
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Biden wants to give Crack pipes to the "undeserved" but I'm racist for pointing it out.

Sitting here with 3 black friends as I type.

We all agree giving Crack pipes out in the way it's planned by the Biden administration is racist.
Hopefully it's fake news or won't happen but it's all over the news

And while it could be a wrongfully taken tone to point it out callously. As you don't know me but I'd love to hear someone defend this 30 million dollar earmark & not come out the other side a Grand Cyclops or an Aryan supremacist.

Unless it's you who needs a free Crack pipe?

And they wanna make flavored cigars illegal

Trump did more for the undeserved than Biden
Or is that a racist statement too?
Stogie1020 Offline
#27 Posted: Thu, Feb 10 2022, 5:50 PM EST
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Quote:
The Washington Free Beacon initially reported on the program, noting that the department would prioritize applicants in "underserved communities" as defined under one of President Biden's executive orders. An HHS spokesperson reportedly told the Beacon that the grants would fund smoking kits with pipes for users to smoke crystal methamphetamine, crack cocaine and "any illicit substances."


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/crack-pipes-distrubtion-funded-hhs


Sounds kooky to me, which makes me think it's all the more true.
Speyside2 Offline
#28 Posted: Thu, Feb 10 2022, 5:57 PM EST
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As there is no mention of giving out Crack pipes, we have nothing to agree about.
Dg west deptford Offline
#29 Posted: Thu, Feb 10 2022, 8:16 PM EST
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Wow! Wicked bad edit ! Lol

Under served is the word not undeserved!

Sorry I'm an idiot but the under served I suppose are undeserved of such enslavement tactics by the DNC
Speyside2 Offline
#30 Posted: Thu, Feb 10 2022, 8:56 PM EST
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ABC

No federal funding will be used directly or through subsequent reimbursement of grantees to put pipes in safe smoking kits,” Health and Human Services Secretary Xavier Becerra and White House drug policy adviser Rahul Gupta said in a joint statement.
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#31 Posted: Thu, Feb 10 2022, 8:58 PM EST
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Newsweek

Press secretary Jen Psaki told reporters Wednesday that the pipes were never included in the kits, which are part of a $30 million grant program to support community-based overdose prevention programs and other harm reduction services. "It was inaccurate reporting, and we wanted to put out information to make that clear," she said.
Speyside2 Offline
#32 Posted: Thu, Feb 10 2022, 8:59 PM EST
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How about some names associated with the Crack pipes lie?
bgz Offline
#33 Posted: Thu, Feb 10 2022, 9:12 PM EST
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Dg west deptford wrote:
Do you not like the RNC because they're not the party of free Crack pipes to black peoples?

I suppose it is racist that Conservatives would be against tax payer funded Crack pipes for the "underserved"

Hunter has his Crack pipe. It's not fair that po' black chile's don't have theirs.

Build back better!


Sometimes I'm thinking you're holding a CrAkPIpE when you type.
frankj1 Offline
#34 Posted: Thu, Feb 10 2022, 10:39 PM EST
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Dg west deptford wrote:
Wow! Wicked bad edit ! Lol

Under served is the word not undeserved!

Sorry I'm an idiot but the under served I suppose are undeserved of such enslavement tactics by the DNC

much clearer when you don't try to type Ebonics.
bgz Offline
#35 Posted: Fri, Feb 11 2022, 7:46 AM EST
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Dg... you claim to be of God...

Why would you want to be lead by such a self serving evil man... don't say Biden... bah, you all know that's horse sh*t and you all know the evil of the man I speak.

I ask all who would want to be lead by evil(no...the left collectively is not more evil than that man... for he only tells (whines) what you want to hear... the proverbial snake in the garden. He has no honor, he has no morals, he has no principles, all he has is a will to power.

He wants you to kill his political opponents you know... that's what he wants. How could you follow someone so ungodly?

I ask that of all questions .. you speak of the woke... but you're no better... even worse because you are hypocritically following the wishes of a very evil man... false prophet if you will.

He wants you to go to war for him... he doesn't even have much time left on this Earth, yet he's willing to throw away all of civilization just so he can have that power again... one last time.

Kill for your leader... steal for your leader... like the good Christans you are, that's what he wants from you.
Speyside2 Offline
#36 Posted: Fri, Feb 11 2022, 8:22 AM EST
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^ Interesting line of thought. Personally I do not question belief system of others. In the big picture I am only responsible and accountable for myself.
bgz Offline
#37 Posted: Fri, Feb 11 2022, 8:34 AM EST
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True, Christians have been following murderous dictators as long as there has been Christians and murderous dictators (diktaters ... sorry Ray).

I don't understand it, but I most certainly question the utility of religion and the claiming of good if they are not actually going to strive to be good.
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#38 Posted: Fri, Feb 11 2022, 9:35 AM EST
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^ I couldn't disagree with you more. You are talking about fundamentalist Christians. I am Christian, why do you say I am part of that hateful group? What hate do you see in my posts? Where do I ever group think or group speak? When have tried to lie? As far as the plight and treatment of native Americans when have I denied the truth? Your above post is very disrespectful. Learn to differentiate. The above post is beneath your integrity. I do not see it as the real you.
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#39 Posted: Fri, Feb 11 2022, 10:07 AM EST
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Well, I'm a middle aged dude and there is no party for me any more. On one hand you have the entrenched racism of the "Left" who has been attempting to aggregate a voting block together like Symbionese Liberation Army for 50 years - cutting everyone's throat along the way; 100% pure identity politics to the point that POTUS feels comfortable announcing that he will be making his selection for SCOTUS based primarily on race/sex. Then you have the belligerent "Right" who for along time has no choice but to suck the teet of corporations without question, and who now has a romance with would-be dictators, completely devoid of any original uniquely American principles of self-governance.

They are all pigs and we spend our time allowing them to bait us this way and that with token issues designed only to infuriate us, while the education system deteriorates to the point that Americand are no longer interested/capable of critical thinking skills.

America was a great idea, but I'm not sure we deserve this system of government anymore. It was never designed to be run by complete fools and an electorate who is motivated only by "back at you" politics. Disunion is probably inevitable.
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#40 Posted: Fri, Feb 11 2022, 10:37 AM EST
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Speyside2 wrote:
^ I couldn't disagree with you more. You are talking about fundamentalist Christians. I am Christian, why do you say I am part of that hateful group? What hate do you see in my posts? Where do I ever group think or group speak? When have tried to lie? As far as the plight and treatment of native Americans when have I denied the truth? Your above post is very disrespectful. Learn to differentiate. The above post is beneath your integrity. I do not see it as the real you.


When I say Christians, I say that from a historic perspective and certainly don't mean to say that is true for all Christians.

Lest we forget the crusades, the dark ages, where the rulers ruled in the name of Christ. Where arguably good Christian Men followed their leaders because they thought they shared the same dogma...

Not counting the specifics of which religion, I wonder what the death toll ratio is for violent deaths from the start of written history done in the name of God... or Gods, than any other reason...

I'm talking the professed reasons here, not the actual reasons. The reasons which the good Christians were told they were fighting for.

I certainly wasn't talking ill of good Christians...

My point was... as long as there has been a god, some ASPD has been there to suggest killing in the name of it for their own greed and power.

That is all.
RayR Offline
#41 Posted: Fri, Feb 11 2022, 11:08 AM EST
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What's the difference between whether one kills in the name of their God, or for their religious or secular cult leaders? Greed and power.is always the motivation of the aggressor.
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#42 Posted: Fri, Feb 11 2022, 11:17 AM EST
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I'm hoping my N95 mask and Covid test kits get here before my Govt. supplied Crack Pipe Not talking
Speyside2 Offline
#43 Posted: Fri, Feb 11 2022, 11:35 AM EST
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How does one equal smoking kit to Crack pipe other than blindly believing faceless opinion pieces designed to peoples minds suppressed? Yes, you don't believe what I have posted that are actual statement by actual people who know what they are talking about. Even so you nor I have any proof of what is in a smoking kit.
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#44 Posted: Fri, Feb 11 2022, 11:42 AM EST
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Speyside2 wrote:
How does one equal smoking kit to Crack pipe other than blindly believing faceless opinion pieces designed to peoples minds suppressed? Yes, you don't believe what I have posted that are actual statement by actual people who know what they are talking about. Even so you nor I have any proof of what is in a smoking kit.

Well, because in the actual grant proposal discussion and recommendations about what would be in the kits, things like needles, smoking pipes, etc were all included as good ideas, and the grant does not explicitly state they are not in the final kits, so it begs the question "were sanitary single use smoking pipes going to be in the safe-smoking kits?". Funny thing was, when asked, the WH didn't really want to give a straight answer. As usual.
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#45 Posted: Fri, Feb 11 2022, 11:49 AM EST
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Spey,

See pages 8 and 10 of the actual grant for inclusion of a "safe smoking kit" in allowable practices:

https://www.samhsa.gov/sites/default/files/grants/pdf/fy22-harm-reduction-nofo.pdf

Then, when you ask yourself "what the hell is in a 'safe smoking kit'"?, please see this example of the possible contents (this if from a canadian provider of these kits, but seems to be the only readily available documentation of the actual contents of these kits):

https://www.interiorhealth.ca/sites/default/files/PDFS/handout-safer-smoking-supplies.pdf
RayR Offline
#46 Posted: Fri, Feb 11 2022, 12:15 PM EST
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As Fentanyl which thanks to the socialist regime's border policies now accounts as the No. 1 cause of death among US adults, ages 18-45, we are more concerned with the minutia of what drug paraphernalia will be included in the socialist regime's proposed "safe smoking kit"?
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#47 Posted: Fri, Feb 11 2022, 12:43 PM EST
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RayR wrote:
As Fentanyl which thanks to the socialist regime's border policies now accounts as the No. 1 cause of death among US adults, ages 18-45, we are more concerned with the minutia of what drug paraphernalia will be included in the socialist regime's proposed "safe smoking kit"?

No, agreed. It's a distraction.
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#48 Posted: Fri, Feb 11 2022, 1:55 PM EST
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RayR wrote:
What's the difference between whether one kills in the name of their God, or for their religious or secular cult leaders? Greed and power.is always the motivation of the aggressor.


None... no difference.

Bottom line, there's always some aspd at the top spewing what the people need to hear to make them fight for him.
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#49 Posted: Fri, Feb 11 2022, 2:32 PM EST
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Stogie, smoke kit is nebulous at best. Until I actually know what that consists of I cannot agree that the kit contains Crack pipes. Most everything else seems clearly defined and I do question why smoking kit is not clearly defined. If Crack pipes are included then I am just as angry and you will be. But I need to know what is in the smoking kit before deciding anything. Thank you for providing the link you did. I had previously read that, but always appreciate someone providing the best truth they can find.
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#50 Posted: Fri, Feb 11 2022, 2:40 PM EST
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BGZ, thank you for clarifying. I primarily agree with you. I do compare Trump differently. I see him more as prince John of England who robbed the common folk all the time while his bully boys helped out. Then when Richard returned, John fled with some of his ill gotten gain. He was dressed and a woman and lost his treasure in the fens and moors. A coward through and through.
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