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.........................White House servers to link Trump to Russia: Durham

'Tech Executive-1 and his associates exploited this arrangement by mining the EOP's DNS traffic and other data for the purpose of gathering derogatory information about Donald Trump.'

By Brooke Singman - Lawyers for the Clinton campaign paid a technology company to "infiltrate" servers belonging to Trump Tower, and later the White House, in order to establish an "inference" and "narrative" to bring to government agencies linking Donald Trump to Russia, a filing from Special Counsel John Durham says.

Durham filed a motion on Feb. 11 focused on potential conflicts of interest related to the representation of former Clinton campaign lawyer Michael Sussman, who has been charged with making a false statement to a federal agent. Sussman has pleaded not guilty.

The indictment against Sussman says he told then-FBI General Counsel James Baker in September 2016, less than two months before the 2016 presidential election, that he was not doing work "for any client" when he requested and held a meeting in which he presented "purported data and 'white papers' that allegedly demonstrated a covert communications channel" between the Trump Organization and Alfa Bank, which has ties to the Kremlin.

But Durham's filing on Feb. 11, in a section titled "Factual Background," reveals that Sussman "had assembled and conveyed the allegations to the FBI on behalf of at least two specific clients, including a technology executive (Tech Executive 1) at a U.S.-based internet company (Internet Company 1) and the Clinton campaign."

Durham’s filing said Sussman’s "billing records reflect" that he "repeatedly billed the Clinton Campaign for his work on the Russian Bank-1 allegations."

The filing revealed that Sussman and the Tech Executive had met and communicated with another law partner, who was serving as General Counsel to the Clinton campaign. Sources told Fox News that lawyer is Marc Elias, who worked at the law firm Perkins Coie.

Durham's filing states that in July 2016, the tech executive worked with Sussman, a U.S. investigative firm retained by Law Firm 1 on behalf of the Clinton campaign, numerous cyber researchers and employees at multiple internet companies to "assemble the purported data and white papers."

"In connection with these efforts, Tech Executive-1 exploited his access to non-public and/or proprietary Internet data," the filing states. "Tech Executive-1 also enlisted the assistance of researchers at a U.S.-based university who were receiving and analyzing large amounts of Internet data in connection with a pending federal government cybersecurity research contract."

"Tech Executive-1 tasked these researchers to mine Internet data to establish 'an inference' and 'narrative' tying then-candidate Trump to Russia," Durham states. "In doing so, Tech Executive-1 indicated that he was seeking to please certain 'VIPs,' referring to individuals at Law Firm-1 and the Clinton campaign."

Durham also writes that during Sussman's trial, the government will establish that among the Internet data Tech Executive-1 and his associates exploited was domain name system (DNS) internet traffic pertaining to "(i) a particular healthcare provider, (ii) Trump Tower, (iii) Donald Trump's Central Park West apartment building, and (iv) the Executive Office of the President of the United States (EOP)."

Durham states that the internet company that Tech Executive-1 worked for "had come to access and maintain dedicated servers" for the Executive Office of the President as "part of a sensitive arrangement whereby it provided DNS resolution services to the EOP."

"Tech Executive-1 and his associates exploited this arrangement by mining the EOP's DNS traffic and other data for the purpose of gathering derogatory information about Donald Trump," Durham states.

The filing also reveals that Sussman provided "an updated set of allegations" including the Russian bank data, and additional allegations relating to Trump "to a second agency of the U.S. government" in 2017.

Durham says the allegations "relied, in part, on the purported DNS traffic" that Tech Executive-1 and others "had assembled pertaining to Trump Tower, Donald Trump's New York City apartment building, the EOP, and the aforementioned healthcare provider."

In Sussman's meeting with the second U.S. government agency, Durham says he "provided data which he claimed reflected purportedly suspicious DNS lookups by these entities of internet protocol (IP) addresses affiliated with a Russian mobile phone provider," and claimed that the lookups "demonstrated Trump and/or his associates were using supposedly rare, Russian-made wireless phones in the vicinity of the White House and other locations."

"The Special Counsel's Office has identified no support for these allegations," Durham wrote, adding that the "lookups were far from rare in the United States."

"For example, the more complete data that Tech Executive-1 and his associates gathered--but did not provide to Agency 2--reflected that between approximately 2014 and 2017, there were a total of more than 3 million lookups of Russian Phone-Prover 1 IP addresses that originated with U.S.-based IP addresses," Durham wrote. "Fewer than 1,000 of these lookups originated with IP addresses affiliated with Trump Tower."

Durham added that data collected by Tech Executive-1 also found that lookups began as early as 2014, during the Obama administration and years before Trump took office, which he said, is "another fact which the allegations omitted."

"In his meeting with Agency-2 employees, the defendant also made a substantially similar false statement as he made to the FBI General Counsel," Durham wrote. "In particular, the defendant asserted that he was not representing a particular client in conveying the above allegations."

"In truth and in fact, the defendant was representing Tech Executive-1--a fact the defendant subsequently acknowledged under oath in December 2017 testimony before Congress, without identifying the client by name," Durham wrote.

Former President Trump reacted to the filing on Saturday evening, saying Durham’s filing "provides indisputable evidence that my campaign and presidency were spied on by operatives paid by the Hillary Clinton Campaign in an effort to develop a completely fabricated connection to Russia."

"This is a scandal far greater in scope and magnitude than Watergate and those who were involved in and knew about this spying operation should be subject to criminal prosecution," Trump said. "In a stronger period of time in our country, this crime would have been punishable by death."

Trump added: "In addition, reparations should be paid to those in our country who have been damaged by this."

Former chief investigator of the Trump-Russia probe for the House Intelligence Committee under then-Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif., Kash Patel, said the filing "definitively shows that the Hillary Clinton campaign directly funded and ordered its lawyers at Perkins Coie to orchestrate a criminal enterprise to fabricate a connection between President Trump and Russia."

"Per Durham, this arrangement was put in motion in July of 2016, meaning the Hillary Clinton campaign and her lawyers masterminded the most intricate and coordinated conspiracy against Trump when he was both a candidate and later President of the United States while simultaneously perpetuating the bogus Steele Dossier hoax," Patel told Fox News, adding that the lawyers worked to "infiltrate" Trump Tower and White House servers.

The anti-Trump dossier, authored by ex-British intelligence officer Christopher Steele, commissioned by opposition research firm Fusion GPS, was funded by the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton's campaign through Elia's law firm, Perkins Coie.

Patel added that Sussman relayed the "false narrative" to U.S. government agencies "in the hopes of having them launch investigations of President Trump."

Sussmann's indictment is the second prosecution to come out of Durham's probe.

In 2020, Durham charged former FBI lawyer Kevin Clinesmith with making a false statement – the first criminal case arising from his probe. Clinesmith was referred for potential prosecution by the Justice Department's inspector general's office, which conducted its own review of the Russia investigation.

Specifically, the inspector general accused Clinesmith, though not by name, of altering an email about Page to say that he was "not a source" for another government agency. Page has said he was a source for the CIA. The DOJ relied on that assertion as it submitted a third and final renewal application in 2017 to eavesdrop on Trump campaign aide Carter Page under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA).

Former Attorney General Bill Barr appointed Durham, then the U.S. attorney from Connecticut, in 2019 to investigate the origins of the FBI’s original Russia probe, or Crossfire Hurricane, which began in July 2016, through the appointment of Special Counsel Robert Mueller in May 2017 shortly after Mueller completed his yearslong investigation into whether Trump's campaign colluded or coordinated with the Russians to influence the 2016 presidential election.

Mueller's investigation found no evidence of illegal or criminal coordination between Trump or the Trump campaign and Russia in 2016.

Barr, in December 2020, before leaving the Trump administration, tapped Durham as special counsel to continue his investigation through the Biden administration.

In the scope order, Barr stated that Durham "is authorized to investigate whether any federal official, employee, or any other person or entity violated the law in connection with the intelligence, counter-intelligence, or law-enforcement activities directed at the 2016 presidential campaigns, individuals associated with those campaigns, and individuals associated with the administration of President Donald J. Trump, including but not limited to Crossfire Hurricane and the investigation of Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller, III."

Under U.S. code, the special counsel would produce a "confidential report" and is ordered to "submit to the Attorney General a final report, and such interim reports as he deems appropriate in a form that will permit public dissemination."


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Special Counsel John Durham 'still in action' investigating origins of Trump-Russia probe, AG Garland says

Garland says, 'You would know if he weren't continuing to do his work''

By Brooke Singman - Special Counsel John Durham is "still in action" investigating the origins of the Trump-Russia probe, Attorney General Merrick Garland said Thursday.

During testimony before the House Judiciary Committee Thursday, Garland was asked about the status of Durham's now years-long probe.

Garland said the special counsel is "still in action."

"I think you can readily assume that his budget has been approved," Garland said. "We don’t normally make a statement about those said things."

Garland added: "You would know if he weren’t continuing to do his work."

Former Attorney General Bill Barr appointed then-U.S. Attorney from Connecticut John Durham in 2019 to investigate the origins of the FBI’s original Russia probe, or Crossfire Hurricane, which began in July 2016, through the appointment of Special Counsel Robert Mueller in May 2017, shortly after Mueller completed his years-long investigation into whether his campaign colluded or coordinated with the Russians to influence the 2016 presidential election.

Mueller’s investigation yielded no evidence of criminal conspiracy or coordination between the Trump campaign and Russian officials during the 2016 election, though the question of whether Trump obstructed justice was left open in the final report.

In August 2020, Durham charged former FBI lawyer Kevin Clinesmith with making a false statement --the first criminal case arising from his probe. Clinesmith was referred for potential prosecution by the Justice Department's inspector general's office, which conducted its own review of the Russia investigation.

Specifically, the inspector general accused Clinesmith, though not by name, of altering an email about former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page to say that he was "not a source" for another government agency. Page has said he was a source for the CIA. The DOJ relied on that assertion as it submitted a third and final renewal application in 2017 to eavesdrop on Page under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

Barr, in December, before leaving the Trump administration, tapped Durham as special counsel to continue his investigation through the Biden administration.

In the scope order, Barr stated that Durham "is authorized to investigate whether any federal official, employee, or any other person or entity violated the law in connection with the intelligence, counter-intelligence, or law-enforcement activities directed at the 2016 presidential campaigns, individuals associated with those campaigns, and individuals associated with the administration of President Donald J. Trump, including but not limited to Crossfire Hurricane and the investigation of Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller, III."

Under U.S. code, the special counsel would produce a "confidential report" and is ordered to "submit to the Attorney General a final report, and such interim reports as he deems appropriate in a form that will permit public dissemination."

Garland, during his confirmation hearing, said he saw "no reason" why Durham should not continue his investigation, and added that he is "a great believer in transparency," when asked about making Durham’s eventual report public. But Garland said he would "have to talk with Durham and understand the nature of what he's been doing and the nature of his report."

And Deputy Attorney General Lisa Monaco, during her confirmation hearing, also committed to providing Durham the necessary resources to continue his probe, which began in the spring of 2019.

As special counsel, Durham, so far, has charged just one individual – Clinton campaign lawyer Michael Sussmann – with knowingly making false statements to the FBI.

The indictment against Sussman says he lied to FBI lawyer James Baker when he presented data linking the Trump organization to a secret server that communicated with Alfa Bank, which has ties to the Kremlin. The indictment indicates Durham may be expanding his investigation to bring separate charges again Sussmann or additional defendants.

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When do the perp walks start?
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Impossible I read guys here said the election was clean.
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Why, yes you did.

They also cried about Trump being Hitler.

How's their name calling working with Joe?

He's compromised to his hair plugs. Dr. Geppetto, er Jill has to walk him away from podiums and tell him to come like a dog.

We were told Trump was Putin's bitch. Look at Putin play this big dummy and his band of misfits. Even the Ukrainian President is telling King Bidas to put up or shut up with some verified proof of his whipped up claims of Russian aggression.

https://sputniknews.com/20220212/what-a-twist-ukraines-president-demands-proof-that-russia-is-planning-to-invade-1092970024.html

Ya can't make this stuff up but his defenders...the only ones I know of because on the street nobody is defending this man...well, CBid is their "Alamo". Covid is all but tossed to the curb as the fraud it was lead by 3rd rate ugly control freaks that wear masks to hide themselves.

See them for what they are. Scream insurrection some more. Get it all out of your systems. That was another fraud, and it's not working with the man boy Canadian PM either.

What else can you cry about? Oh wait...Trump, orangeman bad...LOLZ. Anyone paying attention sees you.
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Durham probe has 'accelerated,' with more people 'cooperating,' coming before grand jury

Durham has run his investigation 'very professionally,' source tells Fox News Digital

By Brooke Singman - FIRST ON FOX: Special Counsel John Durham’s investigation has "accelerated," and more people are "cooperating" and coming before the federal grand jury than has previously been reported, a source familiar with the probe told Fox News.

The source told Fox News Monday that Durham has run his investigation "very professionally," and, unlike Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation, his activities, and witness information and cooperation status are rarely, if ever, leaked.

"Durham does this right and keeps it a secret," the source said, adding that there has been "much more activity" in Durham’s investigation "than has been visible to the public."

The closest look Durham has given with regard to grand jury witnesses came in a federal court filing last month, outlining materials that had been provided by the special counsel’s office to defense attorneys for former Clinton campaign lawyer Michael Sussmann.

Sussmann has been charged making a false statement to a federal agent. Sussmann has pleaded not guilty.

Durham’s Jan. 25 filing tells the court that the special counsel’s office provided materials, including "transcripts of sworn grand jury testimony by the following witnesses" to Sussmann’s team.

Durham does not explicitly include the names of individuals who testified before the grand jury in the filing, but rather, their professional titles, or titles assigned to them by the special counsel’s office.

Durham lists a number of individuals, including "the above-referenced former FBI General Counsel," which could be a reference to James Baker, who served as FBI general counsel from January 2014 until May 2018. Fox News reported in October that Durham had plans to call Baker to testify in the case against Sussmann.

The indictment against Sussmann, says he told then-FBI General Counsel James Baker in September 2016, less than two months before the 2016 presidential election, that he was not doing work "for any client" when he requested and held a meeting in which he presented "purported data and 'white papers' that allegedly demonstrated a covert communications channel" between the Trump Organization and Alfa Bank, which has ties to the Kremlin.

Durham's Feb. 11 filing says that the "FBI General Counsel" will "likely be a central witness at trial."

Baker did not immediately respond to Fox News’ request for comment.

Durham also provided grand jury testimony from "the above-referenced former FBI Assistant Director for Counterintelligence." It is unclear to which official Durham is referring, but the title could be a reference to Bill Priestap, who served as the FBI’s assistant director for counterintelligence from 2015 to 2018.

Priestap did not immediately respond to Fox News’ request for comment.

Durham also lists "a former FBI Deputy Assistant Director for Counterintelligence." It is unclear to whom Durham is referring.

Peter Strzok served as a deputy assistant director for counterintelligence. Three sources familiar with the FBI’s structure told Fox News there could be as many as three individuals serving in the deputy assistant director of counterintelligence role at a time.

Strzok, who was part of the original FBI investigation into whether the Trump campaign was colluding with Russia to influence the 2016 presidential election, and later in Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s office, was fired from the FBI in 2018 after months of scrutiny regarding anti-Trump text messages exchanged with former FBI General Counsel Lisa Page. Their anti-Trump text messages were uncovered by the Justice Department inspector general.

Fox News was unable to reach Strzok for comment.

Durham, in the filing, also lists testimony from "the attorney previously employed by Law Firm-1 who is referred to in the Indictment as ‘Campaign Lawyer-1.’" It is unclear to whom Durham is referring.

However, in a separate Durham filing on Feb. 11, the special counsel states that "Campaign Lawyer-1" was "serving as General Counsel to the Clinton Campaign." Three sources told Fox News that individual is Marc Elias, who served as general counsel to Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign, and worked at the law firm Perkins Coie.

Elias’ law firm, Perkins Coie, is the firm that the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign funded the anti-Trump dossier through. The unverified dossier was authored by ex-British Intelligence agent Christopher Steele and commissioned by opposition research firm Fusion GPS.

A spokesperson for Elias did not immediately respond to Fox News' request for comment.

Durham, in the filing, also lists "an FBI Special Agent who served as case agent for the FBI’s Russian Bank-1 investigation" and "an FBI Headquarters Supervisory Special Agent assigned to the Russian Bank-1 investigation." Durham also adds "two current employees of Agency-2;" "two current or former employees of University 1;" and "a former employee of Internet Company-3."

A spokesperson for Special Counsel John Durham told Fox News that special counsel's office "will decline to comment beyond the court filings."

But a source familiar with federal investigations told Fox News that federal prosecutors cannot indict an individual and then use a grand jury to investigate matters in an existing indictment.

The source, though, said a prosecutor can indict an individual for a specific crime, and continue to use the grand jury to explore other crimes related to that individual, and beyond.

"The Government also maintains an active, ongoing criminal investigation of the defendant’s [Sussmann’s] conduct and other matters," Durham wrote.

Meanwhile, Fox News first reported on Durham's Feb. 11 filing, which alleged that lawyers from Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign in 2016 had paid to infiltrate servers belonging to Trump Tower and later the White House, in order to establish an "inference" and "narrative" to bring to federal government agencies linking Donald Trump to Russia.

In a section titled "Factual Background," Durham revealed that Sussmann "had assembled and conveyed the allegations to the FBI on behalf of at least two specific clients, including a technology executive (Tech Executive 1) at a U.S.-based internet company (Internet Company 1) and the Clinton campaign."

Durham’s filing said Sussmann’s "billing records reflect" that he "repeatedly billed the Clinton Campaign for his work on the Russian Bank-1 allegations."

The latest filing states that in July 2016, the tech executive worked with Sussmann, a U.S. investigative firm retained by Law Firm 1 on behalf of the Clinton campaign, numerous cyber researchers and employees at multiple internet companies to "assemble the purported data and white papers."
"They are looking at more than Sussmann," the source said.

"In connection with these efforts, Tech Executive-1 exploited his access to non-public and/or proprietary Internet data," the filing states. "Tech Executive-1 also enlisted the assistance of researchers at a U.S.-based university who were receiving and analyzing large amounts of Internet data in connection with a pending federal government cybersecurity research contract."

"Tech Executive-1 tasked these researchers to mine Internet data to establish 'an inference' and 'narrative' tying then-candidate Trump to Russia," Durham wrote. "In doing so, Tech Executive-1 indicated that he was seeking to please certain 'VIPs,' referring to individuals at Law Firm-1 and the Clinton campaign."

Durham also wrote that during Sussmann's trial, the government will establish that among the Internet data Tech Executive-1 and his associates exploited was domain name system (DNS) internet traffic pertaining to "(i) a particular healthcare provider, (ii) Trump Tower, (iii) Donald Trump's Central Park West apartment building, and (iv) the Executive Office of the President of the United States (EOP).
Durham stated that the internet company that Tech Executive-1 worked for "had come to access and maintain dedicated servers" for the Executive Office of the President as "part of a sensitive arrangement whereby it provided DNS resolution services to the EOP."

"Tech Executive-1 and his associates exploited this arrangement by mining the EOP's DNS traffic and other data for the purpose of gathering derogatory information about Donald Trump," Durham states.

The filing also reveals that Sussmann provided "an updated set of allegations" including the Russian bank data, and additional allegations relating to Trump "to a second agency of the U.S. government" in 2017.

Durham says the allegations "relied, in part, on the purported DNS traffic" that Tech Executive-1 and others "had assembled pertaining to Trump Tower, Donald Trump's New York City apartment building, the EOP, and the aforementioned healthcare provider."

In Sussmann's meeting with the second U.S. government agency, Durham says he "provided data which he claimed reflected purportedly suspicious DNS lookups by these entities of internet protocol (IP) addresses affiliated with a Russian mobile phone provider," and claimed that the lookups "demonstrated Trump and/or his associates were using supposedly rare, Russian-made wireless phones in the vicinity of the White House and other locations."

"The Special Counsel's Office has identified no support for these allegations," Durham wrote, adding that the "lookups were far from rare in the United States."

"For example, the more complete data that Tech Executive-1 and his associates gathered--but did not provide to Agency 2--reflected that between approximately 2014 and 2017, there were a total of more than 3 million lookups of Russian Phone-Prover 1 IP addresses that originated with U.S.-based IP addresses," Durham wrote. "Fewer than 1,000 of these lookups originated with IP addresses affiliated with Trump Tower."

Durham added that data collected by Tech Executive-1 also found that lookups began as early as 2014, during the Obama administration and years before Trump took office, which he said, is "another fact which the allegations omitted."

"In his meeting with Agency-2 employees, the defendant also made a substantially similar false statement as he made to the FBI General Counsel," Durham wrote. "In particular, the defendant asserted that he was not representing a particular client in conveying the above allegations."

"In truth and in fact, the defendant was representing Tech Executive-1--a fact the defendant subsequently acknowledged under oath in December 2017 testimony before Congress, without identifying the client by name," Durham wrote.

At this point, Durham has indicted three people as part of his investigation: Sussmann in September 2021, Igor Danchenko on Nov. 4, 2021 and Kevin Clinesmith in August 2020.

Danchenko was charged with making a false statement and is accused of lying to the FBI about the source of information that he provided to Christopher Steele for the anti-Trump dossier.

Kevin Clinesmith was also charged with making a false statement. Clinesmith had been referred for potential prosecution by the Justice Department's inspector general's office, which conducted its own review of the Russia investigation.

Specifically, the inspector general accused Clinesmith, though not by name, of altering an email about Page to say that he was "not a source" for another government agency. Page has said he was a source for the CIA. The DOJ relied on that assertion as it submitted a third and final renewal application in 2017 to eavesdrop on Trump campaign aide Carter Page under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA).

Meanwhile, this week, sources told Fox News that former Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe met with Durham on multiple occasions and told him there was evidence in intelligence to support the indictments of "multiple people" in his investigation into the origins of the Trump-Russia probe.

Former President Trump reacted to the filing on Saturday evening, saying Durham’s filing "provides indisputable evidence that my campaign and presidency were spied on by operatives paid by the Hillary Clinton Campaign in an effort to develop a completely fabricated connection to Russia."

"This is a scandal far greater in scope and magnitude than Watergate and those who were involved in and knew about this spying operation should be subject to criminal prosecution," Trump said. "In a stronger period of time in our country, this crime would have been punishable by death."

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During sex my wife always wants to talk to me. Just the other night she called me from a hotel.
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AhhhHhHHhHHHhHh!!!!

Scrolling hell.
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If you cannot elucidate your option, or do not have one of your own - just cut ‘n paste.

Easier than thinking!
Sunoverbeach Offline
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Does save from autocorrect issues though. I don't know how to elucidate an option
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Move along. Nothing to see here.
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Brewha has very strong options.
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Brewha wrote:
If you cannot elucidate your option, or do not have one of your own - just cut ‘n paste.

Easier than thinking!



I just wanted to share somethings with those of the left that have depended on complicit news outlets for their news of record for the past five plus years.

And you want an option?

OK, you suck!

You happy now?
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I’m holding my breath on 60 minutes and Leslie Stahl apologizing.
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Burner02 wrote:
I just wanted to share somethings with those of the left that have depended on complicit news outlets for their news of record for the past five plus years.

And you want an option?

OK, you suck!

You happy now?


Nothing like a buthurt burnout rejecting the truth.
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tonygraz wrote:
Nothing like a buthurt burnout rejecting the truth.

Seems like Durham is actually finding the truth. Does that make you upset for having believed the "Russia Collusion" lie for so long?
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Where there is smoke there usually is fire. Durham's findings to date that are public knowledge have made me reconsider and change my point of view on subjects such as the Steele dossier, illegal actions by Hillary Clinton. Though I still stand by innocent until proven guilty just like I did with Trump. Thanks for the additional detail Burner.
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Spey this happened to a potential and sitting POTUS.

This shouldn’t bother everyone, this should piss off and scare everyone who’s capable of rational thought. This was never about Trump for many.
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Z, I want to see direct linkage to Hillary Clinton knowing of these illegal actions. What I see right now is that acolytes are very likely to be guilty. I think there probably is direct linkage to Hillary Clinton. That has not even been mentioned yet if I read the information correctly. Let this play out in investigation and in court. I am not arguing how bad this is. It is beyond bad. I am saying it needs to play out.
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Speyside2 wrote:
Z, I want to see direct linkage to Hillary Clinton knowing of these illegal actions. What I see right now is that acolytes are very likely to be guilty. I think there probably is direct linkage to Hillary Clinton. That has not even been mentioned yet if I read the information correctly. Let this play out in investigation and in court. I am not arguing how bad this is. It is beyond bad. I am saying it needs to play out.


Honestly, (I can't believe I am saying this) I don't care if she was or was not direclty linked to this. I mean, I think she is, and I think she tried to wipe her servers with something other than a cloth, but I am most interested in seeing WHOEVER is responsible for this locked up for a very long time.


I am so troubled by this that I will say that it doesn't have to be HC who goes down.


This is so far past the line of what is OK...
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^+1. If this happened to white house servers as alleged I think this rises to the level of treason.
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Who we talking about?

Crooked?

Doesn't matter. Some will still believe the Russia,Russia, Russia hoax anyway. (Tony, I'm looking at you)

Still worse many are obviously ok with treason because this is ooooollllllddd news. We've known for yyyeeeeaaaarrrrs!
(Brewha I'm looking at you)

What will it take?, What depths of shamefacedness does this POTUS have to reach? Yet there will be people STILL who would choose Biden over Trump. (Benny, you know who I'm looking at)
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Speyside2 wrote:
^+1. If this happened to white house servers as alleged I think this rises to the level of treason.



You think???? This is treason of the highest order.If we could view them swinging from the gallows those that follow might think twice.This screams Hillary from the highest mountain tops.This leads all the way to the top in my opinion........Obama,Jim Messina's prints are all over this and he was Obama's fixer.


Firing squad or the noose..........that should be their options
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Speyside2 wrote:
^+1. If this happened to white house servers as alleged I think this rises to the level of treason.


The ends justify the means.
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Looks like Trump was right about another thing the media called him a liar about. He and his campaign WERE SPIED ON!


The Unstated Scandal: The CIA Collected Info On President Trump



On Friday, Special Counsel John Durham filed a motion relating to a defense firm’s potential conflict of interest in the Michael Sussmann case. The conflict itself is certainly intriguing, with Sussmann’s lawyers at Latham & Watkins LLP (Latham) having represented potential witnesses in the case, including Perkins Coie, former Perkins Coie (and Clinton Campaign general counsel) Marc Elias, the Hillary Clinton Campaign, and Hillary for America.

The issue that made more noise, however, was Durham’s disclosure that Rodney Joffe – a contractor with deep ties to the Clintons, and what appears to be a deep hatred for Trump – had exploited Executive Office of the President of the United States data he obtained from a “sensitive arrangement” with the U.S. Government to damage President Trump. Here is our initial post on the topic.

And here is the talented Lee Smith providing a great explanation on Tucker:

.@LeeSmithDC says he keeps hearing people comparing the scandal to Watergate when it doesn’t compare to Watergate at all. We are talking about some of the most secure communications in government been Surveiled by political operatives. pic.twitter.com/f22h5V92vV
— The Dirty Truth (Josh) (@AKA_RealDirty) February 15, 2022


Yet the data from the Executive Office of the President wasn’t all that Joffe had obtained. He also collected domain name system (DNS) internet traffic pertaining to a healthcare provider; Trump Tower; and Trump’s Central Park West apartment building.

Yesterday, February 14, Sussmann’s attorney’s disputed the Durham filing – to an extent. They said Sussmann provided the CIA with Executive Office of the President data from “when Barack Obama was president.”


I have a theory about this.

If Sussmann’s attorney is telling the truth (never a given), then we suspect the Executive Office of the President data included that from the 74 day the Trump transition period (between the November 8, 2016 election and the January 20, 2017 inauguration) – which would still be spying on the incoming Trump Administration.

For background, the Executive Office of the President includes a number of Executive councils (National Security Council, Office of Management and Budget, etc.) that support the President. It is involved generally in the transition from one president to the next.

What about the data involved with the Trump transition? On August 1, 2016, Trump reached an agreement with the General Services Administration (GSA) “for telecommunication and internet technology services for both the pre- and post-election transition period.”1 This is the agreement. I wonder if Joffe’s company, Neustar, helped the GSA in the execution of that agreement. Maybe. Maybe not. I’m not sure it matters, as Neustar already had an agreement to provide “DNS resolution services” to the Office of the Executive of the President.

Regardless, the “transition theory”, if we can call it that, matches the timeline in the Sussmann indictment, which states that Joffe and his team continued to target “Trump-related computer networks” in late 2016 and early 2017. And it makes sense in context of Sussmann’s conduct, as Sussmann tried to put this information out there in late December 2016.

Anyway, back to the point of this post.

According to Durham, Joffe and his associates manipulated that data to make it seem like Trump, and those in Trump’s world, had suspicious interactions with internet protocol (IP) addresses affiliated with a Russian mobile phone provider. They then combined those allegations with the Alfa Bank hoax materials (the subject of Sussmann’s Fall 2016 meeting with then-FBI General Counsel James Baker).

This damaging information, purporting to demonstrate at least circumstantial evidence of Trump/Russia collusion, was presented on February 9, 2017 to what Durham describes as U.S. Government “Agency-2.”

That agency was the CIA. We know for sure that Sussmann met with the CIA General Counsel. We learned in January 2022 that, if Sussmann is to be believed, there were two other CIA employees at that meeting.

In other words, a Clinton supporting contractor (Joffe) obtained sensitive information (perhaps unlawfully) about the Office of the President of the United States (Trump), manipulated the information, passed it to a DNC/Clinton lawyer (Sussmann), who then delivered it to the CIA.

All on American soil.

This is important because the CIA is generally prohibited from conducting domestic operations. The FBI explains:

“The CIA collects information only regarding foreign countries and their citizens. Unlike the FBI, it is prohibited from collecting information regarding ‘U.S. Persons,’ a term that includes U.S. citizens, resident aliens, legal immigrants, and U.S. corporations, regardless of where they are located.”

In the CIA’s own words:

“The FBI is responsible for coordination of clandestine collection of foreign intelligence through human sources or human-enabled means and counterintelligence activities inside the United States.”

Yet when it came to Trump, here was the CIA doing what it is prohibited: “collecting information regarding U.S. persons” inside the United States.2 (See also the CIA’s bulk surveillance program.)

A top CIA official answered the call of a DNC lawyer who alleged that these suspicious internet “lookups” proved “that Trump and/or his associates were using supposedly rare, Russian-made wireless phones in the vicinity of the White House and other locations.” Accusations that were baseless, according to Durham.

In other words, the secret police was more than willing to accept politically damaging information against the President. I’m curious what they did with it. It seems naive to think the information stayed at the CIA. I bet it was passed onto the FBI or DOJ, who may have used it to further the Trump/Russia investigation.

The scandal we are seeing come to light just isn’t about Hillary and Joffe and Sussmann. It’s not limited to Fusion GPS, FISA abuse, or Igor Danchenko.

It’s also about the willingness of U.S. intelligence to target the President. And on that topic, the CIA has some serious questions to answer.

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1. Democracy Forward Found. v. U.S. Gen. Servs. Admin., 393 F. Supp. 3d 45, 48 (D.D.C. 2019).

2. I can imagine the lazy pro-CIA rebuttals to this argument. They all ignore the dangers of CIA operations inside the U.S. and dismiss the jurisdiction of the various intelligence agencies. And let us be clear that CIA operations include collecting information.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/unstated-scandal-cia-collected-info-president-trump
bgz Offline
#28 Posted:
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Whistlebritches wrote:
You think???? This is treason of the highest order.If we could view them swinging from the gallows those that follow might think twice.This screams Hillary from the highest mountain tops.This leads all the way to the top in my opinion........Obama,Jim Messina's prints are all over this and he was Obama's fixer.


Firing squad or the noose..........that should be their options


I'm glad to hear you and others feel this is how you should deal with traitors...

If true, I'll agree with you...

Now let's talk about Trump's list... get that noose ready, we're going to need a big one... because he just like HIS list, is fat as f*ck.
bgz Offline
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I think if the end of most presidents ended with a noose, then we would be far less likely to get self serving azzholes in there all the time.
Burner02 Offline
#30 Posted:
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bgz wrote:
I'm glad to hear you and others feel this is how you should deal with traitors...

If true, I'll agree with you...

Now let's talk about Trump's list... get that noose ready, we're going to need a big one... because he just like HIS list, is fat as f*ck.




More fake news, so to speak. I have said all a long that if Trump is guilty of a crime that he should face the consequences.

To date, the left has produced nothing but lies.

Time to put up or shut up.

And currently, the left needs Trump. He is the only hope that the left can salvage anything in 2022 or 2024. Without him the left has nothing.

What is the left going to do? Hang their hat on Biden's accomplishments? GFL!
bgz Offline
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Burner02 wrote:
More fake news, so to speak. I have said all a long that if Trump is guilty of a crime that he should face the consequences.

To date, the left has produced nothing but lies.

Time to put up or shut up.

And currently, the left needs Trump. He is the only hope that the left can salvage anything in 2022 or 2024. Without him the left has nothing.

What is the left going to do? Hang their hat on Biden's accomplishments? GFL!


Lol...

Good!!! Sounds like everyone here found something they can agree on!!!
We're all for hanging traitors!


Who knew we all had so much in common.
Whistlebritches Offline
#32 Posted:
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bgz wrote:
I'm glad to hear you and others feel this is how you should deal with traitors...

If true, I'll agree with you...

Now let's talk about Trump's list... get that noose ready, we're going to need a big one... because he just like HIS list, is fat as f*ck.




Ben all the investigations into Trump have lead to nothing but lies and manufactured evidence..........do you agree???

This Durham investigation has turned up solid evidence.

As much as I hate to say this.......I detest both parties but when it comes to morality the dems have zero.
Krazeehorse Offline
#33 Posted:
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Wonder how long before someone gets suicided?
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#34 Posted:
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Some people see things that are and ask, "why?" Some people dream of things that never were and ask, "why not?" Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that
- George Carlin
bgz Offline
#35 Posted:
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Whistlebritches wrote:
Ben all the investigations into Trump have lead to nothing but lies and manufactured evidence..........do you agree???

This Durham investigation has turned up solid evidence.

As much as I hate to say this.......I detest both parties but when it comes to morality the dems have zero.


But I watched him on tv... I watched that sh*t unfold live.

I watched him use sociopathic mind tricks on tv with my own eyes.

I saw a bunch of dumbazzes get bit by those tricks with my own eyes.

So no... I don't agree.

Hang em both.
MACS Offline
#36 Posted:
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bgz wrote:
But I watched him on tv... I watched that sh*t unfold live.

I watched him use sociopathic mind tricks on tv with my own eyes.

I saw a bunch of dumbazzes get bit by those tricks with my own eyes.

So no... I don't agree.

Hang em both.


I'm sure if this was fact... there would be video evidence of it. The media outlets would be 24/7 non-stop with it.

Put down the weed pipe, come back to reality for a bit. Then explain that or provide the video clips or at least some transcripts.
Whistlebritches Offline
#37 Posted:
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bgz wrote:
But I watched him on tv... I watched that sh*t unfold live.

I watched him use sociopathic mind tricks on tv with my own eyes.

I saw a bunch of dumbazzes get bit by those tricks with my own eyes.

So no... I don't agree.

Hang em both.



Ben no comment on the Durham investigation

No comment on libs and their lack of morality

I'm sure everyone here is interested in your opinion
bgz Offline
#38 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
I'm sure if this was fact... there would be video evidence of it. The media outlets would be 24/7 non-stop with it.

Put down the weed pipe, come back to reality for a bit. Then explain that or provide the video clips or at least some transcripts.


Lol...

Way to follow the narrative.

You all got a support group for dealing with me?

You're all using the same sh*t.

Anyway... we all can't be inmune to JeDi mIND TrIcKS!!!

Oh, Fox and LouRock don't talk about Dear Leader's mental health...

You're going to have to "do your own research"...

Oop, did I say that out loud?

Put down the sour fufu drink and buy a new prescription.

And for f*cks sake, get your azz back on the vherf.
Whistlebritches Offline
#39 Posted:
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bgz wrote:
Lol

And for f*cks sake, get your azz back on the vherf.



Tony don't like me............way back when I said on the vherf "racism will never go away, the democrats can't afford to let it go".He's been like a tick on a hound ever since then

Speyside2 Offline
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Whistle, I think a tick is going to bitch slap you for that slight
bgz Offline
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Whistlebritches wrote:
Tony don't like me............way back when I said on the vherf "racism will never go away, the democrats can't afford to let it go".He's been like a tick on a hound ever since then



Oops, fixed my post. Was talking to MACS.
bgz Offline
#42 Posted:
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Whistlebritches wrote:
Ben no comment on the Durham investigation

No comment on libs and their lack of morality

I'm sure everyone here is interested in your opinion


Nope, none of you are interested in my opinion (at least none of you that argue with me all the time).

It's because you are old... and stubborn... but mainly old.
Whistlebritches Offline
#43 Posted:
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bgz wrote:
Nope, none of you are interested in my opinion (at least none of you that argue with me all the time).

It's because you are old... and stubborn... but mainly old.


O!d I cannot deny...........I may get back on the vherf anyway, maybe I can find some love there
Speyside2 Offline
#44 Posted:
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So a couple of things are bothering me here. I looked up the actual filing by Durham. Unfortunately it is in PDF form so I cannot add a link.

Durham is asking the courts to consider charges. So there is no court case yet.

Durham provided no evidence. He only alleged there is evidence.

Trump was not the president when the data was legally provided from the Whitehouse server.

This needs to play out in court so these alleged allegations can be verified with evidence.

I am not saying this all did not happen, only right now no evidence has been provided to verify anything.
Stogie1020 Offline
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^ what a refreshing standard. I completely agree.

Here is why I think this has weight, though.

Durham didn't issue a press release or leak the info or really reveal it in any kind of way. It was merely included in a filling as a factual basis for a legal pleading. No fanfare, no media buzz. No hype.
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This E.N.T.I.R.E. story and investigation is going nowhere but SOUTH.... ESPECIALLY IF THE DNC PULLS IN THEIR FAVORS FROM MANY MANY POLITICIANS , CONGRESSMEN, AND then the DEEP STATE ILLUMINATI puppet masters WITH TOO MUCH POWER AND TOO MUCH MONEY TO BRIBE ANYONE ON THE PLANET EARTH and still can't spend what's left after the bribery payouts...
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#47 Posted:
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Stogie1020 wrote:
^ what a refreshing standard. I completely agree.

Here is why I think this has weight, though.

Durham didn't issue a press release or leak the info or really reveal it in any kind of way. It was merely included in a filling as a factual basis for a legal pleading. No fanfare, no media buzz. No hype.



What no leaks? I thought leaks had become away of life.

Based on Durham's rep, I'm willing to bet that there is substance there. The question is how long will the DOJ allow him to continue.

It could be that the left is as tired of Hillary as the right and the powers to be don't have a problem with her being roughed up a little. In addition, I don't believe that Biden and Hillary have a strong relationship.

I do believe that if Biden as the former VP is connected to the dots in anyway, the investigation will be shut down ASAP.
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OK, sussman was actually indicated in September and pled not guilty, now I am very confused why he is asking a court to consider the matter.
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#49 Posted:
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Mr. Jones wrote:
This E.N.T.I.R.E. story and investigation is going nowhere but SOUTH.... ESPECIALLY IF THE DNC PULLS IN THEIR FAVORS FROM MANY MANY POLITICIANS , CONGRESSMEN, AND then the DEEP STATE ILLUMINATI puppet masters WITH TOO MUCH POWER AND TOO MUCH MONEY TO BRIBE ANYONE ON THE PLANET EARTH and still can't spend what's left after the bribery payouts...


More cream in the coffee...

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/rick-moran/2022/02/16/you-will-never-guess-whos-in-charge-of-the-60-million-in-black-lives-matter-assets-n1559825
RayR Offline
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^ The whole Clinton criminal gang needs to be locked up with the BLM grifters.
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