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Joe Rogan's 2nd interview with Edward Snowden...
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clintCigar Offline
#1 Posted: Wed, Feb 16 2022, 1:28 AM EST
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This is a GREAT philosophical discussion about major issues currently going on in our society. Especially relating to technology and the abuse of it by our government and even other governments for that matter. It's long but TOTALLY worth it IMO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rl82OQDoOc
DrMaddVibe Offline
#2 Posted: Wed, Feb 16 2022, 6:18 AM EST
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I used to think Snowden was a traitor.

Then I started doing my own research. He tried to warn America through proper channels. They shut him down. What he has on them is that for the 1st time American intelligence agencies are spying and collecting data (phone calls, emails, text messages) on ALL Americans.

He should be pardoned. He should come home. He should be running a counter intel agency FOR America.

Once again...Joe Rogan (this is an oldie but a goodie interview) doing the "heavy lifting" that the presstitutes won't do because it doesn't fit the script nor the narratives given to them. There's little to no investigative journalism in the American media today. It's all to provide coverage or suppress damage to the DNC.
bgz Offline
#3 Posted: Wed, Feb 16 2022, 9:21 AM EST
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I'm surprised you ever thought Snowden was a traitor... Obama called him as such... and we all know how you feel about anything Obama has said.

With that said, I watched the first one way back one... probably have to watch this one too at some point.

On another note... another one here that's mia on the vherf.
RayR Offline
#4 Posted: Wed, Feb 16 2022, 10:19 AM EST
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Snowden is a traitor as much as Obama deserved the Nobel Peace Prize.
It's an upside-down world.
Speyside2 Offline
#5 Posted: Wed, Feb 16 2022, 12:41 PM EST
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I think Snowden is an American hero, should be pardoned, and honored. Not many have the guts to do what he did. He blew the whistle and it was covered up. He took the only option available to him, knowing how great the personal cost would be.
clintCigar Offline
#6 Posted: Wed, Feb 16 2022, 12:51 PM EST
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bgz wrote:
On another note... another one here that's mia on the vherf.

I'm a get back in there at some point. My weekends have been full up for a while now. Herfing
clintCigar Offline
#7 Posted: Wed, Feb 16 2022, 12:53 PM EST
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I totally agree with the pardon sentiments. He's a hero in my book.
MACS Offline
#8 Posted: Wed, Feb 16 2022, 12:57 PM EST
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Yeah, I was not a fan of Snowden, initially.

I think what he did was probably necessary, though. Big brother has gotten way, way, waaaaaay out of hand.
8trackdisco Offline
#9 Posted: Wed, Feb 16 2022, 3:06 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
I used to think Snowden was a traitor.

Then I started doing my own research. He tried to warn America through proper channels. They shut him down. What he has on them is that for the 1st time American intelligence agencies are spying and collecting data (phone calls, emails, text messages) on ALL Americans.

He should be pardoned. He should come home. He should be running a counter intel agency FOR America.

Once again...Joe Rogan (this is an oldie but a goodie interview) doing the "heavy lifting" that the presstitutes won't do because it doesn't fit the script nor the narratives given to them. There's little to no investigative journalism in the American media today. It's all to provide coverage or suppress damage to the DNC.


100% agree with everything you said. Followed the same path you did as well, starting with Traitor and arriving at Hero.
bgz Offline
#10 Posted: Wed, Feb 16 2022, 6:16 PM EST
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Unlike many in here, it's never been conclusive in my mind.

I think the subjectivity is what makes the question interesting.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#11 Posted: Wed, Feb 16 2022, 7:04 PM EST
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Whistlebritches Offline
#12 Posted: Wed, Feb 16 2022, 9:55 PM EST
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Snowden is a hero that deserves a pardon................maybe 2024 we'll get a Prez with his/her head screwed on straight
8trackdisco Offline
#13 Posted: Sat, Feb 19 2022, 11:53 AM EST
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Whistlebritches wrote:
deserves a pardon................maybe 2024 we'll get a Prez with his/her head screwed on straight


His & Her only?! What if the next prez is a They.

WB is intolerant!
Cancel WB!!
Ban him from the internet!!!
Freeze his banking accounts!!!!
He's a terrorist!!!!!

-J. Trudeau.
Speyside2 Offline
#14 Posted: Sat, Feb 19 2022, 1:32 PM EST
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OK, you got me, I don't pay the most attention to Canada. Who is WB?

Personally I think Trudeau is more f*cked up than Biden, which should prolly be impossible.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#15 Posted: Sat, Feb 19 2022, 9:08 PM EST
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The IQ and the life expectancy of the average American recently passed each other in opposite directions.
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