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Zelenskyy says" the fight is here, I need ammunition, not a ride"
Mr. Jones Offline
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President of Ukraine said to the U.S. AMBASSADOR....

WHEN BIDEN OFFERED TO GET HIM OUT OF KEIV..

THIS ZELENSKYY has big balls...

So do his countrymen civilians...learning how to use FULL AUTO AK-47's and make
Molotov cocktail bombs...

These Ukrainians don't run away like THE COWARDLY AFGHAN ARMY AND AFGHAN CIVILIANS TRYING TO HOP ON PLANES ....

THESE TOUGH BASTIDS STAND AND FIGHT ...

ALL LOSER ARAB/ MUSLIMS RUN AND FLEE WHEN THE GOING GETS TOUGH...LIKE IRAQ's army
And the afghan army...bunch of cowardly bums...
Dg west deptford Offline
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I heard he called Biden a wussy
frankj1 Offline
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Has Russia taken one city yet?
Sunoverbeach Offline
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People always tell me to have a nice day. Well what if I don't want to? What if I want to have a crappy day?
- GC
Speyside2 Offline
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This is what a leader does.
RMAN4443 Offline
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Speyside2 wrote:
This is what a leader does.

You mean they all don't run and hide in Delaware??????????
Speyside2 Offline
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Or Mara Lago?
Dg west deptford Offline
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If Mara Lago had the buttons of power Vlad wouldn't be getting ca$h money from America or Europe every day still! Lol

Vlod on the other hand would be flush with Raytheons best LOL

 Trumps sale of $47 million worth of 210 Javelin missiles are coming in handy! The 37 launchers are yet in use!

Sorry Vlad, Trump is even screwing you from Mara Lago still!
delta1 Offline
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but he's a savvy genius, who's such a strong leader
Sunoverbeach Offline
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I had no shoes, and I felt sorry for myself until I met a man who had no feet. I took his shoes. Now I feel better.
- GC
Whistlebritches Offline
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delta1 wrote:
but he's a savvy genius, who's such a strong leader



Blindfolded and one arm tied behind his back he can run circles around SleepyJoe.

Al are you still saying we'll be better off at the end of our current administration???

If yes please elaborate............I gotta hear this schit!!!
DrMaddVibe Offline
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Mr. Jones wrote:
President of Ukraine said to the U.S. AMBASSADOR....

WHEN BIDEN OFFERED TO GET HIM OUT OF KEIV..

THIS ZELENSKYY has big balls...

So do his countrymen civilians...learning how to use FULL AUTO AK-47's and make
Molotov cocktail bombs...

These Ukrainians don't run away like THE COWARDLY AFGHAN ARMY AND AFGHAN CIVILIANS TRYING TO HOP ON PLANES ....

THESE TOUGH BASTIDS STAND AND FIGHT ...

ALL LOSER ARAB/ MUSLIMS RUN AND FLEE WHEN THE GOING GETS TOUGH...LIKE IRAQ's army
And the afghan army...bunch of cowardly bums...



Tell em we left billions of military stuff in Afghanistan and they can go get it back from Iran!
Sunoverbeach Offline
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I often warn people: ‘Somewhere along the way, someone is going to tell you, ‘There is no ‘I’ in team.’ What you should tell them is, ‘Maybe not. But there is an ‘I’ in independence, individuality, and integrity.
- GC
frankj1 Offline
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Tell em we left billions of military stuff in Afghanistan and they can go get it back from Iran!

Iran and Iraq already had enough...from the same war.
And much of it was "sold" from the White Hut basement.

It's part of the cost of war, even if you are only involved with weapons and no soldiers.
And neither party has a clean slate.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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https://english.alarabiya.net/News/middle-east/2021/09/02/US-military-equipment-previously-owned-by-Afghan-army-spotted-in-Iran-Reports
frankj1 Offline
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https:/wasteyourtimetoo/justtalk/itsadiscountcigarforum
Dg west deptford Offline
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The Javelin Is Wrecking Putin's Army. Here's How the Anti-Tank Weapon Works.
By Ross Pomeroy
February 28, 2022

St. Javelin.

The viral meme (shown above) recasting the "Apostle of the apostles" is in reverence to a device that knows no religion: the FGM-148 Javelin portable fire-and-forget anti-tank missile. Since the start of Putin's dastardly invasion of Ukraine, Ukrainian freedom fighters have extensively utilized the American-made weapon system – co-produced by Lockheed Martin and Raytheon – to rain destruction down upon the Russian military's armored vehicles. Ukraine's Defense Ministry estimates that 102 tanks and 536 armored vehicles had been destroyed as of February 26th. The Javelin likely factored heavily into that rousing combat success.

"This weapon allows a single soldier to target and destroy even the most heavily armored main battle tank with an almost guaranteed kill rate, at great range and with minimal risk," Army Capt. Vincent Delany wrote of the Javelin for West Point's Modern War Institute.

So how does this 'holy' piece of military machinery work? Laypersons might be envisioning a bazooka-like operation, but anti-tank weapons have evolved considerably since that quintessential rocket launcher was deployed in World War II. With the Javelin, a soldier using the portable, reusable Command Launch Unit (CLU) looks through an infrared sight to locate a target up to an incredible 2.5 miles away. When the user spots a target, he operates a cursor to set a square around it, almost like cropping an image. This is then sent to the onboard guidance computer on the missile itself, which has a sophisticated algorithmic tracking system coupled with an infrared imaging device. When the missile locks on to the target, the operator can launch the self-guided weapon and quickly relocate or reload to fire another missile at a different target.

Sunoverbeach Offline
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A good motto to live by: Always try not to get killed
- GC
frankj1 Offline
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just read up on the Javelin.
wow!
Dg west deptford Offline
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Russian tanks are not helpless against the Javelin. Most are equipped with explosive reactive armor. When struck by a penetrating weapon like a missile, the armor detonates, blasting a metal plate outwards to damage the missile's penetrator and prevent it from piercing the tank's main armor. The Javelin overcomes this by having tandem warheads, one to deal with the reactive armor plate, and the second to impact the tank's armor itself. Modern Russian tanks are also equipped with a radar system called Arena, which detects incoming missiles and automatically fires a wide burst of projectiles to destroy or redirect them. But here, again, the Javelin reigns supreme, Delany says.

"The Javelin can defeat Arena while in top-attack mode, due to the missile descending from too steep an angle for the system to engage properly," he wrote.

Ukraine had been shipped roughly 77 launchers and 740 missiles before Putin invaded. Many, many more of each are now on the way courtesy of the U.S. and European allies. May the Ukrainians put them to good use. Slava Ukraini!

Mr. Jones Offline
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I bet that new loud mouthed kraut chancellor is claiming
"Prop's" that DUETCHLAND SENT THOSE JAVELINS TO THE UKRAINE....

I DONT BELIEVE a word that comes from his "day late and a kraut MARK SHORT" PIE HOLE...

ACHT DIE LIEBER !!!

VAS IS LOS???

WE SENT DOSE' JAVELINS...YEA RIGHTTT...

AND MY GIRLRIEND IS MORGAN FAIRCHILD!!!
(JOHN LOVITZ)
MACS Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
just read up on the Javelin.
wow!


Wow, indeed Frank... wow, indeed. That's free market capitalism at work, buddy. I'm sure we both wish it wasn't for such purposes, but the theory remains. Find a need... fill it... make money... spread it to your employees and investors. Win/win/win.

That third win was for Zelensky and his boys. Beer
Mr. Jones Offline
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Yes...

That idea and savvy approach goes way back to the NAZI
REGIME..IN WWII...
THEY INVENTED ONE OF THE BEST TANK BUSTERS EVER MADE ....they handed it out to teenagers and they decimated a lot of Soviet armor on the siege of Berlin...

Then the soviets perfected the hand held rocket launcher
To almost perfection....ALBEIT not a tank buster but an awesome weapon against armored personnel and just about any unarmored vehicle...

But THE U.S.A. TOOK THE ANTI TANK WEAPON TO HEART AND PRODUCED MANY VARIATIONS...

THE NEWEST ...IS THE JAVELIN...

IT IS SHEAR ECONOMICS OF SCALE....

So soviet T-14 modern tank costs $3.7 M.I.LL.I.O.N. TO MAKE...

A JAVELIN COSTS $175,203.And FIDDY cent !!!

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

And they almost never miss ...
Mr. Jones Offline
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Thank God those dumb ass ROOOSKIES didn't hit that nuke plant reactor with artillery....

I think these Russians are all drunk and jagged on speed and crank....

Why even target a nuclear plant with artillery??
Stogie1020 Offline
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I wish ICANN and RIPE would just return Russia to the 1800's for a few weeks. This would all be over quickly.
Sunoverbeach Offline
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We Americans, we're a simple people. But piss us off, and we'll bomb your cities.
- RW
JGKAMIN Offline
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Seems like yesterday he was holed up in a bunker hiding from attack. Another awards show, another appearance by this actor. It’s been said Zelensky’s on tv more than the Kardashians. Keep sending him billions of dollars while shyt here continues to fall apart.
Mr. Jones Offline
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Can't wait for the end of this "WAR" IN UKRAINE....

And the investigation about were ALL THE ACTUAL MONEY WENT?

WHERE ACTUALLY ALL THE WEAPONS WENT?
WHERE ACTUALLY are the unused weapons are at?
Where actually is the unused AMMO?

I'M sure...100% sure some peeps are diverting
MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF $$$CASH , WEAPONS AND AMMO
FROM the actual war...to be sold later to the enrichment of dirty thieves in the Ukraine ...profiting off this war and the U.S. taxpayers...

Just look at IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN...
THE Pentagon can't explain where BILLIONS OF $$ WENT
OR MAYBE TRILLIONS? OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS...

BUNCH OF BULL CRAP !!!
ZRX1200 Offline
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We’re giving them weapons, and the spending bill has provisions to replenish that.

Democrats and Establishment RepubliCANTS love the military industrial complex.

The next war begins in 2028 btw, mark your calendars.
HockeyDad Offline
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The green energy industrial complex is working on replacing the military industrial complex
ZRX1200 Offline
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I think power breakers are just widening their target audience.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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You mean carpetbaggers are getting paid???
ZRX1200 Offline
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Potato Po-tot-O
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So I hear some peeps want to make him one of the founding fathers. Confused
Right after they take down all the monuments to slave owners, and Confederate rebels and desecrate their graves I guess. Anxious

Joe Wilson Proposes to Display Bust of Volodymyr Zelensky in Capitol Building

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Rep. Joe Wilson (R-SC) sponsored legislation to display a bust of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in the Capitol Building.

Wilson sponsored H. Res. 10, which would direct:

… the Fine Arts Board to obtain a bust of the President of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, for display in the House of Representatives wing of the United States Capitol.

Resolved, That the House of Representatives directs the Fine Arts Board to obtain a bust of the President of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, for display in a suitable, permanent location in the House of Representatives wing of the United States Capitol.

The bill has been referred to the committee on House Administration.

More...

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/01/11/joe-wilson-proposes-to-display-bust-of-volodymyr-zelensky-in-capitol-building/
DrMaddVibe Offline
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https://www.zerohedge.com/military/decision-arm-ourselves-or-arm-ukraine-navy-secretary-admits-crisis-us-defense-stockpiles



Told ya!!!!
JGKAMIN Offline
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Mr. Jones wrote:
Can't wait for the end of this "WAR" IN UKRAINE....

And the investigation about were ALL THE ACTUAL MONEY WENT?

“While Congress has authorized more than $110 billion in American taxpayer money to be sent to Ukraine, much of the funding is ending up in the hands of highly powerful and well-connected Defense Department contractors like Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Raytheon, General Dynamics, and Northrop Grumman”
HockeyDad Offline
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
https://www.zerohedge.com/military/decision-arm-ourselves-or-arm-ukraine-navy-secretary-admits-crisis-us-defense-stockpiles



Told ya!!!!


Arm both! Proxy wars ain’t cheap.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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JGKAMIN wrote:
“While Congress has authorized more than $110 billion in American taxpayer money to be sent to Ukraine, much of the funding is ending up in the hands of highly powerful and well-connected Defense Department contractors like Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Raytheon, General Dynamics, and Northrop Grumman”



They're already finding weapons in Africa though. Ya know...the ones we gave awa...er depleted our own forces over.
HockeyDad Offline
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Africa needs weapons too.

There are over 550 million firearms in worldwide circulation. That's one firearm for every twelve people on the planet. The only question is: How do we arm the other 11?

DrMaddVibe Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
Africa needs weapons too.

There are over 550 million firearms in worldwide circulation. That's one firearm for every twelve year old on the planet. The only question is: How do we arm the other 11 year olds?



Fixed it for ya!


Herfing
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https://www.businessinsider.com/pentagon-increasing-production-of-155mm-artillery-shells-2023-1?amp

Hope you all invested wisely when we elected the Ukrainian piggy bank sniffer.
JGKAMIN Offline
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https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/01/24/world/russia-ukraine-news#ukraine-corruption-s

Everyone taking their cut from our tax paying dollars while the cost of everything from eggs on down keep climbing in price.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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JGKAMIN wrote:
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/01/24/world/russia-ukraine-news#ukraine-corruption-s

Everyone taking their cut from our tax paying dollars while the cost of everything from eggs on down keep climbing in price.



Why we don't need the Middle East and the PLO anymore! We send money over there and they send it back to the DNC!
Mr. Jones Offline
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Yea...EL HEFE ZZZZelensky ....

"JUST SHooK UP HIS CAbiNET AND FIRED SEVERAL OF THEM money stealing politico types...FOR marking up $$$ electric generators senT for free from the U.S. TAXPaYER....."

PROLLY CUZ HE WASNT GETTING HIS ENTIRD C.U.T. KICKED BAcK UP TO "THE B.I.G. MAN IN UKRAINIA"????..

Who is....???

i.e. zelensky Eeèeeemmmmself and stuff...
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Once again...the NYT playing keep-up because they failed at the one thing they had to do...and can't ever seem to get it right!

A Day Late And $113 Billion Short, New York Times Acknowledges Ukraine As A Broken And Corrupt Nation


It’s apparently safe now to make the obvious point that Ukraine is run by fiends and so maybe dumping American taxpayer dollars on the corrupt little nation without any strings attached was a little hasty.

Maybe we’re getting ahead of ourselves, but The New York Times on Tuesday did take time to report the slew of firings and forced resignations of top Ukrainian government officials, a push by President Volodymyr Zelensky(yyy), for the purpose of “reassuring Ukraine’s allies — which are sending billions of dollars in military aid — that his government would show zero tolerance for graft…”

Well, that was kind of him. Maybe now Democrats and even idiot Republicans will stop countering every question about our involvement with Ukraine by declaring their critics to be Pervs for Putin.

The war-loving romantics of Congress haven’t seen a dollar they wouldn’t like to send to Ukraine, even as it’s been rated by foreign aid nonprofits and humanitarian organizations as one of Europe’s most crooked countries for years, over and over.

The firings and resignations substantively mean very little. Zelensky’s administration released no explanation for them, nor are there any official details about specific evidence of corruption, other than that one of Zelensky’s deputies rode around town in a General Motors-donated SUV that was supposed to be for “humanitarian missions” (rather than, say, for attending a Vogue cover photoshoot). There’s also something about using government funds — that is to say, U.S. taxpayer dollars — to buy eggs at an inflated price, raising the grave question: Why were they shopping for eggs in America?

Over the course of nearly a year, the U.S. has spent $113 billion on Ukraine and counting. Every step of the way, anyone with a question about why or for whom or to what end has been shouted down as a Putin sympathizer or dismissed as anti-democracy. And then Zelensky shows up to tell us we’re not doing enough.

At least the Times has come around to acknowledging that Ukraine isn’t the squeaky clean operation that the White House, most of Congress, and all of the corporate media insist that it is. Maybe next we’ll be allowed to openly state that Ukraine and NATO were antagonizers of this war, and funding it indefinitely is probably doing more harm than good.

https://thefederalist.com/2023/01/24/a-day-late-and-113-billion-short-new-york-times-acknowledges-ukraine-as-a-broken-and-corrupt-nation/


That's pretty quick for the NYT! Hell, they never met a socialist they DIDN'T like to follow! Hell they impeached Trump because he DARED say that he hopes the money being given to them isn't squandered!
HockeyDad Offline
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Ukraine’s short history with democracy has been very messy to say the least. However, the notion that a government would show zero tolerance for graft is a ridiculous expectation. We don’t even expect that from the US government.

Donald Trump screwed up our perpetual wars. Now we are getting back to normal and are fighting a proxy war with Russia to prevent the return of the Soviet Union. Now where can I find a Pepe Le Pew gif with a Ukrainian flag?
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