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izonfire Offline
#351 Posted:
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G’mernin ya skallywags…
8trackdisco Offline
#352 Posted:
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BuckyB93 wrote:
The government is always double or triple dipping.

You work and get paid - they take out income tax (taxed once for working and earning money).
You buy something from what you have left and you pay sales tax, gas tax, etc.. (taxed again for spending your money).
Wanna save it or invest it - taxed on trying to let your money grow by saving or investing it.
Buy property - taxed on purchasing it and taxed on owning it.
You die and pass on your assets to a family member, they tax you again.

Here in MA, if you buy a car, boat, trailer, motorcycle... - you pay MA sales tax on the transaction. Then every year you get to pay an excise tax on those vehicles for the simple pleasure of owing it. Sounds logical - if you own something the government should get it's pound of flesh out of you for the simple reason that you own something.

Here's a kicker that blew me away from a real world experience as a young pup.
- When I graduated college, I bought a truck in WI then moved to MA.
- When I went to register it in MA, I had to show proof of ownership, bill of sale and stuff. No biggie, that's standard practice.
- Turned out the sales tax that I paid in WI was something like 1% less than the current sales tax in MA.
- In addition to the standard registration fees, they said I had to cough up the difference in sales tax and I owed MA the additional money on a truck that I bought in WI. That was not anticipated.
- When I asked if, for example, if I bought the truck in a state that had a higher sales tax would I get reimbursed the difference by the state of MA. They laughed (literately) at me - nope it doesn't work that way.

Real world slap of reality of my 2nd experience with MA taxes.
- Fast forward to a year later.
- I get a bill in the mail that says I owe excise tax on the truck.
- Went into work the next day and asked a co-worker WTF is this excise bill that I got?
- He explained to me that I'll have to pay that tax every year and the tax goes to support the roads and stuff. But don't worry, it will go down. The amount you'll owe every year will based on what MA determines as the value of the vehicle and not the real value of the vehicle.
- WTF? Isn't that what the gas tax is supposed to pay for?
- More laughs... Welcome to MA, kid.

The only certain things in life are death and taxes.


When I read stuff like this, and Mike's and MACS' I can't fathom which is more idiotic.
The states for enacting these rules, or for you to keep living there, feeding these beasts.
It's like a horror movie. If you get a phone call from the killer and he/she/they/inset pronoun here) are inside your house..... get .... out..... of ..... the...... house.

Especially you, Bucky. Aren't you only 20 miles from Live Free or Die? Or, are they as whacked as the Masshole government?


8trackdisco Offline
#353 Posted:
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31 degrees. Inch of snow. Maybe another inch yet this morning. High of 38.
Warms to low-mid 40's for the next five days- or so they say.

Drinking coffee out of a Arizona mug. Think I bought it in...... Arizona.
8trackdisco Offline
#354 Posted:
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Total tax burden by state. NY #1.
HI, ME, VT and MN round out the top 5.
MA #20.... WI... #21.
Maybe I should move to MA. Or in with my ma.
Bottom 5: NH, WY, DE, TN and AK.

https://wallethub.com/edu/states-with-highest-lowest-tax-burden/20494#expert=Donald_Bruce
Gene363 Offline
#355 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
They may want it... but they can't legally have it.


We'll see. After our move from CA TO TX I made more money so I had to pay more tax on the income I had earned in CA, I was pissed. Oh, and when I sold my house in CA, years after we moved out, they wanted to withhold money from the sale and make me file taxes in California to get it back, the Mother Fu***ers. Only by doing a 1031 exchange, one rental property for another, did I avoid that final raping.
Gene363 Offline
#356 Posted:
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Good Thursday Morning! It's a rainy 66° on the way to 78° today, a perfect day for a funeral.
deadeyedick Offline
#357 Posted:
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8trackdisco wrote:
31 degrees. Inch of snow. Maybe another inch yet this morning. High of 38.
Warms to low-mid 40's for the next five days- or so they say.

Drinking coffee out of a Arizona mug. Think I bought it in...... Arizona.


Did you pay tax on that?

I just read that Cali is studying how much and to which blacks they will pay reparations. MACS better hurry.
8trackdisco Offline
#358 Posted:
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deadeyedick wrote:
Did you pay tax on that?


Yes. I recall the tax being something like 7.5%. Was wondering WTF, it is only 5% in Sconnie. 5.5% actually after the greed and gold rapists squeezed another half a percent.

]I just read that Cali is studying how much and to which blacks they will pay reparations. MACS better hurry.

I don't think MACS identifies as black.
MACS Offline
#359 Posted:
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Depends... I will identify as black if they're gonna pay me, but it better be a big enough amount to make me stay.

I have been biding my time 8track. Needed to get to 50 for my county pension... check. Needed to get the wife on board and that was the issue... check.

It's happening this year, dammit.
HockeyDad Offline
#360 Posted:
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deadeyedick wrote:
Did you pay tax on that?

I just read that Cali is studying how much and to which blacks they will pay reparations. MACS better hurry.


They just made a big decision on that one. They are only going to pay reparations to direct descendants of slaves instead of all blacks. It is controversial.
frankj1 Offline
#361 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
They just made a big decision on that one. They are only going to pay reparations to direct descendants of slaves instead of all blacks. It is controversial.

wonder how much Egypt owes me, with interest, after all these years!
Interesting topic for the Passover seder table...
MACS Offline
#362 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
wonder how much Egypt owes me, with interest, after all these years!
Interesting topic for the Passover seder table...


Just as ridiculous, too. LOL
HockeyDad Offline
#363 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
wonder how much Egypt owes me, with interest, after all these years!
Interesting topic for the Passover seder table...


Maybe Italy too. Y’all did a nice job on building the coliseum.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#364 Posted:
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Prolly owed lots of manna. Sooooo much manna
MACS Offline
#365 Posted:
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
Prolly owed lots of manna. Sooooo much manna


Manna?

He coulda sent Pastrami on rye with mustard and dill pickles. What does a guy gotta do to get a good sammich? Wander in the desert for 40 years?

Oh, wait.
8trackdisco Offline
#366 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
Depends... I will identify as black if they're gonna pay me, but it better be a big enough amount to make me stay.

I have been biding my time 8track. Needed to get to 50 for my county pension... check. Needed to get the wife on board and that was the issue... check.

It's happening this year, dammit.


If you get this done before the end of 2022. Everything- out of CA, living full time in FL, I will give you a present.
dkeage Offline
#367 Posted:
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8trackdisco wrote:
If you get this done before the end of 2022. Everything- out of CA, living full time in FL, I will give you a present.

Something “in a box”?
8trackdisco Offline
#368 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
They just made a big decision on that one. They are only going to pay reparations to direct descendants of slaves instead of all blacks. It is controversial.


How many years were the black Californian's enslaved?

Slavery abolished in either 1863 or 1865. California was admitted as a free state in 1850. Hmmm.

Then there is this from Wikipedia....

Under earlier Spanish and Mexican rule, California's original native population had precipitously declined, above all, from Eurasian diseases to which the indigenous people of California had not yet developed a natural immunity.[80] Under its new American administration, California's harsh governmental policies towards its own indigenous people did not improve. As in other American states, many of the native inhabitants were soon forcibly removed from their lands by incoming American settlers such as miners, ranchers, and farmers. Although California had entered the American union as a free state, the "loitering or orphaned Indians" were de facto enslaved by their new Anglo-American masters under the 1853 Act for the Government and Protection of Indians.

The the american natives are getting the checks, not the blacks.
That should go over well.
8trackdisco Offline
#369 Posted:
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dkeage wrote:
Something “in a box”?


No Richard.

36NEIN.
frankj1 Offline
#370 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
Just as ridiculous, too. LOL

I thank you, my friend.
Gene363 Offline
#371 Posted:
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Today we attended the funeral for our older son's Step-Father-in-Law. A Catholic mass followed by a gravesite service. He a good fellow and family member. His passing was, IMO a blessing as he had Alzheimer's.

What really got me was the Southern tradition of pulling over to allow a funeral procession the entire road. I've done it many times, including when I needed to be someplace in a hurry. It's a sign of respect given to all, familiar or not. But this was the first time I was in a funeral procession watching perfect strangers, business people, modest and fancy cars, large and small commercial vehicles pull over in respect for the dead, their family and friends. This got me in the feels.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#372 Posted:
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On the other side, was in a procession last year for my great aunt. Went from the north side of Chicago to the NW suburbs. No freeway, city streets only. It took determination, reckless abandon, and a willingness to risk my own ride in the hearse just to keep up with the procession.
Stogie1020 Offline
#373 Posted:
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I am curious where the tradition of running every light on the way to a funeral began. Why is anyone in a rush to get to a funeral?
Mike3316 Offline
#374 Posted:
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I'd venture to guess that it goes back pre-automobile and that funeral processions didn't come to a stop as some sort of superstition? Possibly so that the you didn't stop a hearse with a dead body in it in front of someone's house???? That would be my guess. Think
Sunoverbeach Offline
#375 Posted:
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Morning, people. Off to work earlier than I'd like. Not thanking God it's Friday yet. Maybe later
Ram27 Offline
#376 Posted:
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TGIF greetings worker bees and to our other slackers. Beer
deadeyedick Offline
#377 Posted:
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Slacker present.
MACS Offline
#378 Posted:
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Somebody call for a slacker?
Gene363 Offline
#379 Posted:
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Good Friday, April Fools Day, Morning! It's breezy, clear, and 59° on the way to 74° today.
8trackdisco Offline
#380 Posted:
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Cheeser Slacker reporting for non-duty.
frankj1 Offline
#381 Posted:
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Stogie1020 wrote:
I am curious where the tradition of running every light on the way to a funeral began. Why is anyone in a rush to get to a funeral?

and what would be so wrong about being late to your own funeral?
Always wondered why that accusation should be an insult.
WTF? I'm gonna skip it altogether if possible.
Gene363 Offline
#382 Posted:
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Stogie1020 wrote:
I am curious where the tradition of running every light on the way to a funeral began. Why is anyone in a rush to get to a funeral?



It's not for speed, they typically proceed below speed limits, the purpose is to keep the procession together. Those I've seen all had at least two police escorts, one up from to block intersections and one in the rear to indicate the end of the procession and to leapfrog with the front unit and block the next intersection.
BuckyB93 Offline
#383 Posted:
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This is typically the way the do it here. Police escort in the front and rear. Intersections blocked along the way. Cars in the procession drive with their hazard lights on and have little flags on their roof.

Been to one for a neighbor, a fallen soldier about 12 yrs ago. The funeral was in Springfield MA area and the burial was at a veteran cemetery on Cape Cod. The route included travel on the interstate for a quite a while (I didn't do the entire trek to the Cape, I peeled off about halfway to get back home). The state police had a running blockade and blocked off the on and off ramps to the highway while procession passed. It was a very memorable experience. Prior to this, I've never been to a funeral or memorial service for a solider before. Lots of area vets, and kids still in service, Cub Scouts, motorcycle clubs of vets and Patriot Guard Riders and such.... The church was beyond capacity so many stayed outside. Taps was played at the church and, I suspect, also played at the cemetery.

It was an awesome and humbling experience. For me, most powerful song (I'm not sure it qualifies as a song but you get what I'm trying to say) is Taps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WChTqYlDjtI
MACS Offline
#384 Posted:
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Well... wife must really be on board with this move. She wants me to go put a deposit before her trip to the PI.

Builds are projected to be finished August / September, but the best lots go fast in my experience.
Ram27 Offline
#385 Posted:
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Florida here comes MACS.Applause

Good luck and happy house hunting.
Gene363 Offline
#386 Posted:
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Ram27 wrote:
Florida here comes MACS.Applause

Good luck and happy house hunting.



+1 and get a locked-in mortgage as soon as possible.
Stogie1020 Offline
#387 Posted:
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Ram27 wrote:
Florida here comes MACS.=d>

Good luck and happy boat hunting.


FIFY

And +1 on the good luck!
8trackdisco Offline
#388 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
Well... wife must really be on board with this move. She wants me to go put a deposit before her trip to the PI.


Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause
MACS Offline
#389 Posted:
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Ooooof...

Buddy just went by the place. They're building the homes to a plan. No upgrades, they build it how they build it. No deposits... you put your name on a list and when it's done there's a fkn bidding war.

Pass.

Might be stuck here for a while longer. Brick wall
Gene363 Offline
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MACS wrote:
Ooooof...

Buddy just went by the place. They're building the homes to a plan. No upgrades, they build it how they build it. No deposits... you put your name on a list and when it's done there's a fkn bidding war.

Pass.

Might be stuck here for a while longer. Brick wall


You need to do an extended road trip and find an excellent and very professional realitor.
MACS Offline
#391 Posted:
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Looking like it.
Ram27 Offline
#392 Posted:
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Peek ah boo.
Sunoverbeach Offline
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I see you
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I know I'm like uh idiot, but I think realtors work for sellers.
Maybe look up agencies that work for buyers...?
Sunoverbeach Offline
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They work for both. The buying realtor gets a piece of the commission too, I believe
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
They work for both. The buying realtor gets a piece of the commission too, I believe

listing realtor gets it all unless they go multi-listing and then they split the commish.

Paid by the seller.

buyer pays nothing...who would you protect?

No incentive to protect the buyer even though they drive them around and stuff. Look at three houses without making an offer and never hear from them again.

there's a little known thang in many areas for buyer representatives. Takes an effort.
Gene363 Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
I know I'm like uh idiot, but I think realtors work for sellers.
Maybe look up agencies that work for buyers...?


Sunoverbeach wrote:
They work for both. The buying realtor gets a piece of the commission too, I believe



Typically. relators work for the seller and the selling agent shares in the commission. There are some buyer agents, but they tend not to be, "in the club" with other agents. These arrangements do vary considerably from state to state.

This is based on my observations/experience in California, Arizona, Texas, South Carolina, and Georgia. The best agents I have worked with saved us lot of money and one arranged a terrific deal for us in California. Avoid new or part time agents. One of our best recomendations came from a local agent that knew someone in state we moved to. Closing agents, i.e., escrow companies in California and attornies in other states can also help. They know the agents that are professionl.
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Gene363 wrote:
Typically. relators work for the seller and the selling agent shares in the commission. There are some buyer agents, but they tend not to be, "in the club" with other agents. These arrangements do vary considerably from state to state.

This is based on my observations/experience in California, Arizona, Texas, South Carolina, and Georgia. The best agents I have worked with saved us lot of money and one arranged a terrific deal for us in California. Avoid new or part time agents. One of our best recomendations came from a local agent that knew someone in state we moved to. Closing agents, i.e., escrow companies in California and attornies in other states can also help. They know the agents that are professionl.

glad you jumped in as you might have the most experience here buying and selling properties.
I was just trying to let folks know there might be agents that rep buyers.

People see a house for sale and call the number listed. Who do they think is paying for the ad?
Not the buyers' agent!
BuckyB93 Offline
#399 Posted:
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My first house I bought went through a realtor who was recommended by a friend. She was super nice and worked well with us. When I put the house on the market some years later to sell it we used her again based on the positive history with her.

It was on the market for a couple months and we weren't in a huge hurry to sell since the house we were buying was still under construction. Then a friend who was renting a house a couple doors decided to get married and wanted to buy a house and said "Hey! I'll buy your house. I'll just need to go through and get the financing/mortgage stuff approved."

Excellent, SOLD!

But since we were under contract with the realtor, she got the commission even though she didn't find the buyer.

Angry

Tree NINE! NINE!
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