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MACS to Florida Journey Journal
ZRX1200 Offline
#451 Posted:
Joined: 07-08-2007
Posts: 60,582
I couldn’t do anything except pray last time I was in the back seat with one driving. Thank God Ron and I were drinking….
rfenst Offline
#452 Posted:
Joined: 06-23-2007
Posts: 39,255
MACS wrote:
Yeah... and my retired income is not 120k annually.

Still... with vehicle registration, insurance, gas, and housing all being lower... plus no state tax? I'll be ayite.


Zero state income tax.

You got out at the top of (or or real close ) the California housing bubble- by like a week or two (since rates have gone up). Now, you can sit back and watch Florida's housing bubble (worst state in the nation) burst, then scoop up a deal on a home.

Herfing
rfenst Offline
#453 Posted:
Joined: 06-23-2007
Posts: 39,255
ZRX1200 wrote:
What’s the casino situation in Florida? If I know anything about Filipino women they love them some slot machines….maybe we can bump those numbers up MACS.

Casino - many, but no one main casino area (like LV or AC); also lots of card rooms everywhere. Hardrock Casino in Tampa and Hollywood are very nice. Texas Hold "Em?
ZRX1200 Offline
#454 Posted:
Joined: 07-08-2007
Posts: 60,582
Well I’m neither Filipino nor a woman….
MACS Offline
#455 Posted:
Joined: 02-26-2004
Posts: 79,747
ZRX1200 wrote:
Well I’m neither Filipino nor a woman….


You just play one in a van every now and then, right? Down by the river? Herfing
MACS Offline
#456 Posted:
Joined: 02-26-2004
Posts: 79,747
Spoke with the bank... they said if the escrow company wires the money before 1330 on Monday the funds will be there immediately. If after 1330 they'll be there the next morning.

Noice! As soon as I see the transfer... I'm hittin' da road! Okay, maybe the next morning.
8trackdisco Offline
#457 Posted:
Joined: 11-06-2004
Posts: 60,074
MACS wrote:
Spoke with the bank... they said if the escrow company wires the money before 1330 on Monday the funds will be there immediately. If after 1330 they'll be there the next morning.

Noice! As soon as I see the transfer... I'm hittin' da road! Okay, maybe the next morning.


You should ask for it all in $1 bills. Wonder how big the box would be.
Mr. Jones Offline
#458 Posted:
Joined: 06-12-2005
Posts: 19,419
When's the official

MAC'S BLAST OFF !!!!

D.A.Y. ????

I BET THE NEWSOME DOGS YOUR BUTT TILL THE BORDER OF NEW MEXICO...LIKE A SOUTH POLE MAGNET...

YOU EXITING RETREATER TAX COWARD....
Whistlebritches Offline
#459 Posted:
Joined: 04-23-2006
Posts: 22,128
ZRX1200 wrote:
I couldn’t do anything except pray last time I was in the back seat with one driving. Thank God Ron and I were drinking….



True.......my SIL will scare the schit out of you.When she puts a blinker on she may move one lane but usually its all of them.
8trackdisco Offline
#460 Posted:
Joined: 11-06-2004
Posts: 60,074
Mr. Jones wrote:
When's the official

MAC'S BLAST OFF !!!!

D.A.Y. ????

I BET THE NEWSOME DOGS YOUR BUTT TILL THE BORDER OF NEW MEXICO...LIKE A SOUTH POLE MAGNET...

YOU EXITING RETREATER TAX COWARD....


Monday morning is his probable blast off day.
MACS Offline
#461 Posted:
Joined: 02-26-2004
Posts: 79,747
8trackdisco wrote:
You should ask for it all in $1 bills. Wonder how big the box would be.


Yeah, nah... That would be too heavy. According to the google... the box would be half the size of a wooden international shipping pallet.
rfenst Offline
#462 Posted:
Joined: 06-23-2007
Posts: 39,255
A rental trends study finds 10 Florida markets among the most overvalued in the nation


Florida Today

The rental housing market in Florida is among the most overvalued in the country, and has among the fastest-rising prices, according to a new study of rental trends.

The study of 107 U.S. rental markets, released June 6 and using data from April, found that 10 of the 14 most-overvalued rental markets in the country are in Florida. The study included 10 Florida markets, and all 10 are overvalued by more than 13%.

The largest “premium” paid by renters was found in the Miami market, which in the study includes Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach counties. The study found it was overvalued by 22.07%. The average monthly rent in the South Florida region rose to $2,846, even though historical leasing figures indicate the average should be only $2,331.

The largest year-over-year increase in rental costs was in the Fort Myers area. The average rent there is $2,073, up 32.38% from a year ago. The nine other Florida markets in the study also had year-over-year rental price increases of more than 20%, with all ranking in the top 15 among the 107 markets in that metric.

“A lot of our Florida markets are way overpriced compared to the rest of the country,” said Ken H. Johnson, a real estate economist at the Florida Atlantic University College of Business, who is a co-author of the study.

Ken H. Johnson, a real estate economist at Florida Atlantic University College of Business, was a co-author of the study in rental housing prices.

Although there has been past volatility in the single-family home market, “I’ve never seen anything like this” in the rental market, said Johnson, who has followed the housing industry for nearly four decades. “It was shocking to me. I’ve never seen rents deviate this much.”

He blames that in part on the heavy influx of people moving into Florida, including from states where housing prices are higher than Florida’s, coupled with a shortage of housing inventory.

“We cannot build them fast enough” to meet the demand, Johnson said.

Compounding the problem of overvalued rentals are supply-chain issues and rising material costs that have hampered builders from adding supply. In some landlocked areas, such as Miami, finding available property to develop also is a major challenge, the researchers noted.

Furthermore, Johnson said that during the COVID-19 pandemic in 2020, the federal government placed a national moratorium on rental evictions, resulting in a stall in rental rates.

“During 2020, in fact, rentals in most of the country were undervalued because they were leasing below the long-term trend,” Johnson said in his analysis of the U.S. housing market.

“But the expiration of the moratorium, combined with strong demand for rentals, particularly in Florida, sent rental rates soaring. Until more rental units are built, landlords will continue to raise rates, pricing out many middle-class consumers who previously turned to renting because they couldn’t afford to buy.”

These are the top 15 U.S. markets for housing overvalue, the percentage of how high it is over where the average rent should be, along with the average current rent:

Miami-Fort Lauderdale-West Palm Beach | 22.07% | $2,846
Sierra Vista, Arizona | 21.87% | $1,283
North Port-Sarasota-Bradenton | 18.68% | $2,331
Fort Myers | 18.09% | $2,073
Tampa | 16.91% | $2,055
Knoxville, Tennessee | 16.32% | $1,601
Killeen, Texas | 16.15% | $1,397
Port St. Lucie | 16.01% | $2,266
Lakeland | 15.17% | $1,808
Daytona Beach | 14.15% | $1,788
Phoenix, Arizona | 13.89% | $1,911
Jacksonville | 13.49% | $1,748
Orlando | 13.48% | $1,999
Melbourne | 13.04% | $1,881
Las Vegas | 13.00% | $1,851

How the study used national rent data, trends
The study used leasing data for a range of different types of rentals dating back to 2014 from Zillow’s Observed Rent Index to model the rental trend for each metropolitan area.

The data shows where rents should be based on a history of rents, compared with actual, current rents. This premium or discount is defined as the percentage difference between statistically modeled prices and actual rental prices. The higher the premium, the more overvalued a market is.

The only market of the 107 studied with a discount was San Francisco, where the study found the actual average rent of $3,157 a month was 0.48% below where it was expected to be. The caveat, though, is that San Francisco has the second-highest average rent in the country, behind only San Jose, Calif., at $3,199 a month.

The average monthly rent nationwide is $1,927, which is 9.11% above the expected rent.

The report – called the Waller, Weeks and Johnson Rental Index – is co-produced by the FAU Real Estate Initiative, Florida Gulf Coast University’s Lucas Institute for Real Estate Development & Finance and the Alabama Center for Real Estate at the University of Alabama.

“The way out of this is to add more rental units to the marketplace,” said co-author Bennie Waller of the Alabama Center. “But it’s just not realistic to expect a bunch of new projects in the near term, given the supply-chain problems and the often slow pace of government approvals facing developers before they can put a shovel in the ground.”

All 107 markets studied had year-over-year increases in rental prices. Eleven of the 107 markets posted rental price decreases in the last month, but none of them were in Florida.

“Depending on the market, some rents may be stabilizing, but they’re still much higher than they were a year or two ago,” said report co-author Shelton Weeks of Florida Gulf Coast’s Lucas Institute. “It’s incredibly painful for middle-class budgets.”

Johnson – who also is associate dean of graduate programs with the College of Business at FAU – said, for some people, renting was the only way they could afford to live in Florida, but that’s now becoming difficult, too.

Johnson said he expects rising rental prices will cause changes in rental housing trends, including:

Three generations of families living in the same rental units.

Extended families that include aunts, uncles, nieces and nephews moving into a household.

College students taking on additional roommates.

“Unusual roommate situations,” such as middle-aged people who are not in a relationship living together.
Greater use of manufactured homes as rentals.

“I think you’ll see more renters take on roommates and cut back on eating out because it’s either that or they won’t be able to pay the rent,” Johnson said.



Bubble!!!
DrafterX Offline
#463 Posted:
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,536
I'd buy an RV... Mellow
delta1 Offline
#464 Posted:
Joined: 11-23-2011
Posts: 28,778
notice CA is not on the list...

as we get closer to MACS' launch date, I'm getting an image of the final scene from an all-time fave movie, "Shane"
Palama Offline
#465 Posted:
Joined: 02-05-2013
Posts: 23,627
delta1 wrote:
notice CA is not on the list...

as we get closer to MACS' launch date, I'm getting an image of the final scene from an all-time fave movie, "Shane"


Paraphrasing:

“Shawn!

Come back!









Bye Shawn!”
MACS Offline
#466 Posted:
Joined: 02-26-2004
Posts: 79,747
This "beers wit da boys" tour before I get outa here is taking a toll.

Whooooo wheeeeeee!
frankj1 Offline
#467 Posted:
Joined: 02-08-2007
Posts: 44,215
DrafterX wrote:
I'd buy an RV... Mellow

if only ya told him a few times before now...
MACS Offline
#468 Posted:
Joined: 02-26-2004
Posts: 79,747
Mailed 3 boxes of stuff to the Philippines for my wife's family.

Truck loaded down. All I have to pack tomorrow is the air bed and the duffel bags with the clothes we wear daily.

Left some stuff behind in the garage, but I don't think they'll mind cleaning supplies and such.
HockeyDad Offline
#469 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,120
MACS wrote:
All I have to pack tomorrow is the air bed and the duffel bags with the clothes we wear daily.


We call those suitcases. You’re a civilian now!
MACS Offline
#470 Posted:
Joined: 02-26-2004
Posts: 79,747
HockeyDad wrote:
We call those suitcases. You’re a civilian now!


No... they're duffel bags. The suitcases have the stuff I don't need right away; like pants and long sleeved shirts.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#471 Posted:
Joined: 08-11-2017
Posts: 14,650
Macs is freeballin' cross country. Ballsy

No pun intended of course
Abrignac Offline
#472 Posted:
Joined: 02-24-2012
Posts: 17,263
MACS wrote:
Mailed 3 boxes of stuff to the Philippines for my wife's family.

Truck loaded down. All I have to pack tomorrow is the air bed and the duffel bags with the clothes we wear daily.

Left some stuff behind in the garage, but I don't think they'll mind cleaning supplies and such.


When are you guys rolling out?
8trackdisco Offline
#473 Posted:
Joined: 11-06-2004
Posts: 60,074
What are the chances of live streaming your trip?

Camera facing out the window so we could see what you see, when you are seeing it.

Bonus for live audio from inside the truck as you travel.
corey sellers Offline
#474 Posted:
Joined: 08-21-2011
Posts: 10,359
You definitely don't need long sleeves or pants down here right now. Probably not until around November.
Abrignac Offline
#475 Posted:
Joined: 02-24-2012
Posts: 17,263
8trackdisco wrote:
What are the chances of live streaming your trip?

Camera facing out the window so we could see what you see, when you are seeing it.

Bonus for live audio from inside the truck as you travel.



😂
Gene363 Offline
#476 Posted:
Joined: 01-24-2003
Posts: 30,799
8trackdisco wrote:
What are the chances of live streaming your trip?

Camera facing out the window so we could see what you see, when you are seeing it.

Bonus for live audio from inside the truck as you travel.



+ 1,000
MACS Offline
#477 Posted:
Joined: 02-26-2004
Posts: 79,747
Ya'll are dumb. That ain't happening... not sure where the hell I packed the GoPro.

You may get a clip or two from the phone.

Vacated the house. Final walk-through was good for the buyers. Just waiting to get paid after they record the transfer.
8trackdisco Offline
#478 Posted:
Joined: 11-06-2004
Posts: 60,074
MACS wrote:
Ya'll are dumb. That ain't happening...


Can’t blame a brother for tryin’.
corey sellers Offline
#479 Posted:
Joined: 08-21-2011
Posts: 10,359
I was hoping for a inside the cab views.
corey sellers Offline
#480 Posted:
Joined: 08-21-2011
Posts: 10,359
When he see's me on the side of the road wanting a ride.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#481 Posted:
Joined: 08-11-2017
Posts: 14,650
Ya could start a Youtube vlog. Road Trippin' w/Macs & Tank..... & Mrs. Macs too.

Go viral, and the whole move pays for itself.
8trackdisco Offline
#482 Posted:
Joined: 11-06-2004
Posts: 60,074
Sunoverbeach wrote:
Ya could start a Youtube vlog. Road Trippin' w/Macs & Tank..... & Mrs. Macs too.

Go viral, and the whole move pays for itself.


Excellent idea.
Gene363 Offline
#483 Posted:
Joined: 01-24-2003
Posts: 30,799
MACS wrote:
Ya'll are dumb. That ain't happening... not sure where the hell I packed the GoPro.

You may get a clip or two from the phone.

Vacated the house. Final walk-through was good for the buyers. Just waiting to get paid after they record the transfer.


Unfortunately, that check is not going to clear for several days, the banks like to play with your funds while you do without.Brick wall
MACS Offline
#484 Posted:
Joined: 02-26-2004
Posts: 79,747
Sunoverbeach wrote:
Ya could start a Youtube vlog. Road Trippin' w/Macs & Tank..... & Mrs. Macs too.

Go viral, and the whole move pays for itself.


I do have Instagram for cool puppy dog vids... Think
MACS Offline
#485 Posted:
Joined: 02-26-2004
Posts: 79,747
Gene363 wrote:
Unfortunately, that check is not going to clear for several days, the banks like to play with your funds while you do without.Brick wall


NFCU... and it's a wire transfer, not a check. When I spoke to the bank, she said if the escrow company wires the $$ before 1330 local time I will have it immediately. If the county takes their sweet time recording the transfer of the house then it should be there the next day... because the money doesn't get wired until the transfer has been recorded.
madspackler Offline
#486 Posted:
Joined: 03-07-2000
Posts: 3,608
MACS wrote:
NFCU... and it's a wire transfer, not a check. When I spoke to the bank, she said if the escrow company wires the $$ before 1330 local time I will have it immediately. If the county takes their sweet time recording the transfer of the house then it should be there the next day... because the money doesn't get wired until the transfer has been recorded.


So find out who at the County records the transfer and pay them a visit. Bring coffee and donuts for the office. Sit in their office until the transfer is completed. Bring lunch if you need to. The squeaky wheel gets oiled. Donuts are the grease. Make them an offer they cannot refuse.
Gene363 Offline
#487 Posted:
Joined: 01-24-2003
Posts: 30,799
MACS wrote:
NFCU... and it's a wire transfer, not a check. When I spoke to the bank, she said if the escrow company wires the $$ before 1330 local time I will have it immediately. If the county takes their sweet time recording the transfer of the house then it should be there the next day... because the money doesn't get wired until the transfer has been recorded.


Much better!


madspackler wrote:
So find out who at the County records the transfer and pay them a visit. Bring coffee and donuts for the office. Sit in their office until the transfer is completed. Bring lunch if you need to. The squeaky wheel gets oiled. Donuts are the grease. Make them an offer they cannot refuse.


Not a bad idea, when I sold my last rental the previous closing paid off the house next door... twice, luckey it was one of mine. It was a nightmare getting it corrected, first by the loan company then the county. It was the fault of the lender, their letter with the payoff had the wrong lot number. Brick wall It was literally corrected minutes before the end of closing. The headach was worth getting tid of my last rental.
MACS Offline
#488 Posted:
Joined: 02-26-2004
Posts: 79,747
House is sold. Title transfer has been recorded. Escrow just called to confirm my checking acct and tell me the money is being wired. Should have it tomorrow... Pray
Gene363 Offline
#489 Posted:
Joined: 01-24-2003
Posts: 30,799
MACS wrote:
House is sold. Title transfer has been recorded. Escrow just called to confirm my checking acct and tell me the money is being wired. Should have it tomorrow... Pray


Hot damm! Congratulations! Getting to the end of a sale is quite a relief. Now, in the nicest way, GTFO! LOL
8trackdisco Offline
#490 Posted:
Joined: 11-06-2004
Posts: 60,074
Well…. I’d like to think they had all that information several days ago, and getting the money on Monday means getting the money on Monday.

In a Do your deeds match your words? kind of way, just more Cali Waste and Corruption.

In uplifting news, those Bat Rastard’s chances to Frank with you is dwindled from years, to months, to days now to hours.
HockeyDad Offline
#491 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,120
8trackdisco wrote:
Well…. I’d like to think they had all that information several days ago, and getting the money on Monday means getting the money on Monday.

In a Do your deeds match your words? kind of way, just more Cali Waste and Corruption.

In uplifting news, those Bat Rastard’s chances to Frank with you is dwindled from years, to months, to days now to hours.


Even though he’s leaving the state they will still send him vehicle registration invoices. Mark my words.
MACS Offline
#492 Posted:
Joined: 02-26-2004
Posts: 79,747
HockeyDad wrote:
Even though he’s leaving the state they will still send him vehicle registration invoices. Mark my words.


They sent me tax bills for a boat I sold a year after I sold it... You're likely right, though they will be shredded immediately.

As soon as my next house purchase goes through, and I have a permanent addy in Florida, I will register my vehicle, get my license, change my address for my CalPers retirement account, and switch my state to Florida... so CA can no longer tax the money they're giving me for the rest of my life.

BigGrin

Then... early next year I will file state taxes with those f---bags for the last fkn time.
HockeyDad Offline
#493 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,120
There’s a form you have to fill out with DMV even though they get notified by the new state. It’s a bit of a scam where they keep hitting people with DMV fees.

You can check out any time you’d like…..
BuckyB93 Offline
#494 Posted:
Joined: 07-16-2004
Posts: 14,165
MACS wrote:
House is sold. Title transfer has been recorded. Escrow just called to confirm my checking acct and tell me the money is being wired. Should have it tomorrow... Pray


Pit stop in Vegas. Blows and hoes. Make it rain.
BuckyB93 Offline
#495 Posted:
Joined: 07-16-2004
Posts: 14,165
Guess I'll toss out the CA address then. Although I haven't used it or given it up, you were listed on my next of kin on the underside of the lids of my tuperdors if I were to die. I made clear and special instructions to remove the cigars and ship them off before cutting up my body and packing it into the totes. Caskets are expensive.

I'll have to mine for a new addy when you get settled. Loose lips sink ships. If I buy enough beers for 8track when I'm back in WI I think I'll be able to weasel some intel out of him
8trackdisco Offline
#496 Posted:
Joined: 11-06-2004
Posts: 60,074
What is the plan tomorrow?
If you get the money early, East to Las Crucus?
If midday start, Tucson?
If California goes all California on your ace, maybe get as far as El Cajon?
8trackdisco Offline
#497 Posted:
Joined: 11-06-2004
Posts: 60,074
BuckyB93 wrote:


I'll have to mine for a new addy when you get settled. Loose lips sink ships. If I buy enough beers for 8track when I'm back in WI I think I'll be able to weasel some intel out of him


There isn’t enough beer. When in comes to a Shawny MACS addy, am in the pass of Thermopylae. And not the one In Wyoming.

Unless I get back doored by Phoenicians.

We’ll have to get on the old texting machine when you get closer to Cheeseland to plan for some hijinx.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#498 Posted:
Joined: 08-11-2017
Posts: 14,650
So.... a Phoenician fetish? You do you, bruddah.
MACS Offline
#499 Posted:
Joined: 02-26-2004
Posts: 79,747
What makes anyone think I'll give the addy to 8track?

HA!

Tomorrow's plan is TBD. Adora is basically hanging out with all her friends "at work" since we're staying in the place she worked. She wants to stay 1 more night. Meh... whatever.
MACS Offline
#500 Posted:
Joined: 02-26-2004
Posts: 79,747
HockeyDad wrote:
There’s a form you have to fill out with DMV even though they get notified by the new state. It’s a bit of a scam where they keep hitting people with DMV fees.

You can check out any time you’d like…..


I've got a CA DMV online account... if I can't take care of it there... they can kiss my brown eye.
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