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Supreme Court Roe v. Wade Draft Decision Leaked
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“Our daughters, sisters, mothers, and grandmothers will not be silenced,” he wrote. “The world is about to hear their fury. California will not sit back. We are going to fight like hell.”

Guess who said this? We're gonna "kill baby kill" and grandma finally gets her turn after 2 misses...


I double dog dare any of you to not say it in that Howard Dean "Dean Scream" voice. "Not only are we going to kill babies in New Hampshire, Tom Harkin, we're going to kill 'em in South Carolina and Oklahoma and Arizona and North Dakota and New Mexico, and we're going to California and Texas and New York. ... And we're going to kill in South Dakota and Oregon and Washington and Michigan, and then we're going to Washington, D.C., to take back the White House!"
RayR Offline
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Comrade Newsom I presume? 😱 YAHHHHHHHHHHH!
DrMaddVibe Offline
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RayR wrote:
Comrade Newsom I presume? 😱 YAHHHHHHHHHHH!


Mr. American Psycho hisself!

https://youtu.be/5zOTAvykOss
RayR Offline
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Yeah! He's PSYCHO Baby!

I heard he wants to ENSHRINE state-sanctioned kill'in in the California Constitution because he can't trust dat SCOTUS to nationalize and protect the right to killin'. 🔪🩸
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Doc, are you saying you do not understand what I wrote? Maybe it is easy for you, when sperm fertilizers an egg that is life. I am unaware that the constitution defines life. So it is not as simple as you are projecting.

Simply put my mind is incapable of defining life. Nor will I force others to follow my beliefs or judge them.
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RayR wrote:
Yeah! He's PSYCHO Baby!

I heard he wants to ENSHRINE state-sanctioned kill'in in the California Constitution because he can't trust dat SCOTUS to nationalize and protect the right to killin'. 🔪🩸



And the "My body, My choice" crowd will follow
RayR Offline
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Speyside2 wrote:
Doc, are you saying you do not understand what I wrote? Maybe it is easy for you, when sperm fertilizers an egg that is life. I am unaware that the constitution defines life. So it is not as simple as you are projecting.

Simply put my mind is incapable of defining life. Nor will I force others to follow my beliefs or judge them.


So defining "life" has got you flummoxed, eh?

How about "women", can you define that?
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Speyside2 wrote:
Doc, are you saying you do not understand what I wrote? Maybe it is easy for you, when sperm fertilizers an egg that is life. I am unaware that the constitution defines life. So it is not as simple as you are projecting.

Simply put my mind is incapable of defining life. Nor will I force others to follow my beliefs or judge them.



How are you supposed to obtain "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness" without Life? One could argue the Ninth Amendment would apply here.

Yes, the matter is simple. Simply EVIL Conducted in a sterile medical facility with taxpayer dollars. The Supreme Court messed up and played politics passing Roe V Wade to begin with. Then Casey later. The entire premise is flawed and the Court should've sent the matter/s back to the states where they belong. If a state wants to open up murder mills, let the voters decide or we can keep at each others throats with insanity.


One Powerful Word Links Slavery and Abortion Together

One powerful word links both abortion and slavery together…That word is “evil.”



Slavery was evil. Because it violated natural law, everyone knew at some level of their conscience that it was wrong even while shouting that it was a right. Many formulated justifications for slavery in order to rationalize it to themselves and others. Some even used the Bible to justify it. By its nature, slavery required treating its victims as sub-human. It was perpetuated purely for the convenience of its proponents.

There were those that wanted to abolish slavery and those that defended it. Thus, it caused a division where people who wanted to continue the practice moved to states where it was legal (and even celebrated). But where it was legal slavery didn’t just affect slaves – it also made the free people immoral. Slavery induced a culture of indiscretion, irresponsibility, and disregard for the sanctity of human life.

Abortion is evil. Because it violates natural law, everyone knows at some level of their conscience that it is wrong even while shouting that it is a right. Many formulate justifications for abortion in order to rationalize it to themselves and others. Some even use the Bible to justify it. By its nature, abortion requires treating its victims as sub-human. It is perpetuated purely for the convenience of its proponents.

There are those that want to abolish abortion and those that defend it. Thus, it is causing a division where people who want to continue the practice move to states where it is legal (and even celebrated). But where it is legal abortion doesn’t just affect preborn children – it also makes the participants immoral. Abortion induces a culture of indiscretion, irresponsibility, and disregard for the sanctity of human life.

https://100percentfedup.com/one-powerful-word-links-slavery-and-abortion-together/



As a nation we went to war to end Slavery. It still exists in other parts of the world, however we as a nation are the only one that created a Civil War to end it. Is that what it will take to end abortion as well? The blood is already on their hands. Our nation was at war and even though there are those that still want to believe this is a racist nation, name me another one that went to such depth to free them?

https://youtu.be/-txhf3UOiyA

The Constitution defines our control of government on us. Not the other way around, but it's been perverted around the other way and it's not supposed to be like that. As for forcing ones beliefs on someone else...that's what has been allowed to go on and those opposed have had to deal with it. I'm not okay with the murder of innocent life for the sake of birth control. Before someone's precious little head explodes and derails into "What about rape and incest", why punish the victim more? Oh, but what about the preserving the life of the mother? That percentage is so low that it's not even worth mentioning. Its like fasten your seat belt and put on your mask when you fly. Oh, the government will tell you how to conform if you let them but do you need that? Let's just call it what it is. An eraser, a do over, a goof. Except we're talking about Life not misspelling a word or correcting a math equation or even being late.

Any proud parent would tell you that the greatest day ever...didn't begin with "She aborted our baby". I'm not confused by that matter at all.

What we have here is a political party that uses Planned Parenthood as a donating piggy-bank and will do anything to keep that sacred cow alive, even threaten 1/3 of our nation's political construct, the Judicial Branch. They've smelled blood in the water since Chief Justice Roberts waffled ObamaCare and believe they can bully their way right through any decision to include packing the court in their likeness to get their way. Any time that's ever been done in ANY country...it was the end of that country. This is why the selection of a Justice is a big deal and not to be taken lightly like what you'll have to drink with a meal. It matters because their decisions will impact generations. It would be nice if the person doing the selection was sane, coherent and observing of the laws of the Land. I would prefer the Supreme Court to actually adhere to the written letter of the law but recently after watching videos of them operating I was enlightened that they're not the sharpest crayons in the box. They will take things out of context and will operate like political operatives for the sake of swaying a decision. No, abortion is murder and no amount of cajoling or wordsmithing will convince me otherwise.
RayR Offline
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We already know Bumbling Biden doesn't trust federalism, like that thing the constitution defines about what limited powers the general government has and what powers the members of the compact who created it, those things called states retained.

Now we know because of that thing called the Supreme Court draft which threatens by only its very existence his unconstitutional convictions, that he no longer trusts duhmacracy saying “I’m not prepared to leave that to the whims and the, and the, um, of the public at the moment, in local areas.”
So said the dicktator.
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Glad to see the violent left make unemotional thoughtful arguments..these riots are already more violent than January 6th and there are LITERALLY people posting for blood and revolution on Twitter, IG and FB…..and those posts are not being pulled.

Because the children in the room don’t understand courts don’t make law and the legislature needs to take action people who voted for them want.
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8trackdisco wrote:
For the LGBT crew, becoming more disenfranchised as their special status should get them to the front of the line for abortions.


Do gay people get many abortions? I need an adult to explain this to me. Think
Dg west deptford Offline
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drglnc wrote:
13 states have laws in place so if RvW is overturned they will ban almost immediately, approximately 25 total states are expected to move forward with the ban. so its a little more then 2-3...

all that aside



So the Constitution & Democracy is Your "all that aside"?

If 13 states have sovereign citizens smart enough to vote off late term, non emergency, non rape/incest abortions, your one of the fascists who would rage against their life,liberty & pursuit of happiness?

C'mon drugs included, you better than that

If not, good for you.
move to a state where you can kill on demand.
My state of New Jersey will pay for the right to kill your babies & Biden is saving the soul of America after all.


Full disclosure, did an estimate for the winery today. They didn't let me leave till I had choice selection

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You are really confident about that considering that this is certainly not the first time it's happened. Even Dred Scott V. Sanford got leaked. Even if that were the case, why do you immediately jump to Biden's nominee as the source? What does Jackson hold to gain from that?
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olivablunt wrote:
You are really confident about that considering that this is certainly not the first time it's happened. Even Dred Scott V. Sanford got leaked. Even if that were the case, why do you immediately jump to Biden's nominee as the source? What does Jackson hold to gain from that?

not to mention she's not even on the court yet. so that leaves 3 Trump picks IF it was a noob.

none of us know, maybe only the perp knows, but if I worked for the "drafter" and had no conscience, and a couple months ago the split was this close, I'd get it out there before one of the supporters switched...which happens in the interim after more discussions ensue.

Creates a potentially nasty situation for the switcher(s).

So, are we against leakers and whistle blowers, or do we cheer if it's for the home team?
Dg west deptford Offline
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Frank said "if he had no conscience"

What if you did frank?

frankj1 Offline
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but you may never know.
Dg west deptford Offline
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Oh,
I know.
You have a conscience

You said so

Your just not ready to be honest yet
frankj1 Offline
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my example was if I was the person who leaked it because I (read: the hypothetical assistant) had no conscence...

could have just as easily written "if the leaker worked for the drafter and had no conscience..." but speed typing on a discount cigar forum and wasn't expecting be be analyzed by a drunk religious Putin supporter.

My conscience is clear, and has less to do with the issue than religion does.
Dg west deptford Offline
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Yeah, yeah
Defense still rests
Sunoverbeach Offline
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If I thought about it, I could be bitter, but I don't feel like being bitter. Being bitter makes you immobile, and there's too much that I still want to do.
- RP
frankj1 Offline
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Dg west deptford wrote:
Yeah, yeah
Defense still rests

I owe you an apology in public, not in a pm.
I am sorry. You didn't deserve that.
It's not who I am nor how I was raised.
HockeyDad Offline
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In California if you get an abortion we will give you a free ticket to Disneyland. You won’t get two tickets because you won’t be needing that second ticket anytime soon.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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Biden admits to abortion killing a child.

https://tinyurl.com/mwwzvjku

So, we're not talking about goo or a fetus. A child. I posted a YouTube in another post on this thread where the speaker details where babies can and do feel pain at 7-8 weeks.

So, here we have a sitting President with a record on this matter...

“I don’t like the Supreme Court decision on abortion. I think it went too far,” (the actual link to this story is @ https://www.washingtonian.com/1974/06/01/joe-biden-kitty-kelley-1974-profile-death-and-the-all-american-boy/)he told the Washingtonian the following year while stressing that he was “really quite conservative on most” issues.

“I don’t think that a woman has the sole right to say what should happen to her body,” he said at the time.

https://nypost.com/2022/05/04/biden-once-voted-to-overturn-roe-v-wade/


His words. I fully realize opinions change with more information but here we have a man admitting waaaay back in 1974 that he was opposed to Roe V Wade and today admits that abortion kills children but his devout Catholic upbringing will allow (does it really???) his to support abortion.?. WTF.

We can all agree that his cranial capacity has more in common with scrambled eggs than firing synapses but to reconcile an issue so diametrically opposed to one another...I find that to be a massive flaw in a man.
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HockeyDad wrote:
In California if you get an abortion we will give you a free ticket to Disneyland. You won’t get two tickets because you won’t be needing that second ticket anytime soon.



Way to kill off the brand though.

It's a small, small world.....











See what I did there?
RayR Offline
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I hear they are barricading the Supreme Court Temple in preparations for violent leftist insurrectionists. Anxious
8trackdisco Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
In California if you get an abortion we will give you a free ticket to Disneyland. You won’t get two tickets because you won’t be needing that second ticket anytime soon.


Another upgrade to that package would be dropping a group of 100 women in front of a bag shop in SF where after the procedure, they could loot the store for $924 worth of parting gifts.
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The more I watch the coverage, the more compelling I see the Pro-Choice argument.

Looking at many of these......... people of gender I am not assigning because I'm not sure what they are or their pronouns, I can see the world would certainly be different if their mothers made a different Choice.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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RayR wrote:
I hear they are barricading the Supreme Court Temple in preparations for violent leftist insurrectionists. Anxious



You mean they took down the barricades Biden put up for his coronation?

Weird
DrMaddVibe Offline
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8trackdisco wrote:
The more I watch the coverage, the more compelling I see the Pro-Choice argument.

Looking at many of these......... people of gender I am not assigning because I'm not sure what they are or their pronouns, I can see the world would certainly be different if their mothers made a different Choice.



No amount of rationalization emerges that IF Roe V Wade is struck down that abortions end immediately. Kinda hard to take serious a woman wearing a pink pu$$y hat holding up a hanger that says "NEVER AGAIN!" on it, when the hanger appears to be in top notch form...never used!
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The "plot" thickens....



Former Clinton press secretary praises ‘brave clerk’ for ‘Hail Mary’ attempt in SCOTUS leak



Brian Fallon, former press secretary for Hillary Clinton, idolized who he speculated was a “brave clerk” who leaked the Supreme Court decision draft. The aftermath of the leak displays the difference between liberals and conservatives. Democrats are proud of the individual or individuals involved in the leak, and pushing to punish, bully and publicly protest the conservative members of the Supreme Court.
freestar

“Is a brave clerk taking this unprecedented step of leaking a draft opinion to warn the country what’s coming in a last-ditch Hail Mary attempt to see if the public response might cause the court to reconsider?” stated Fallon.

Conservative Justices have called for an investigation to figure out what exactly how the breach happened, and Republican lawmakers and legal analysts say the leaker broke the law. Liberals want to punish Supreme Court Justices for not agreeing with them, while conservatives want repercussions for a criminal. It’s that simple.

“SCOTUS leaks are good” Fallon continued. “Elite lawyers on both the left and right treating the Court as precious all these years have just been giving cover to an institution that is wholly unaccountable. rip the veil off” he concludes.

https://saraacarter.com/former-clinton-press-secretary-praises-brave-clerk-of-hail-mary-attempt-in-scotus-leak/


Insanity.
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Now Joe's worried about what the SCOTuS does?, How about he complies with their ruling that he must restore the stay on Mexico policy they issued last summer.
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Dg west deptford wrote:
So the Constitution & Democracy is Your "all that aside"?

If 13 states have sovereign citizens smart enough to vote off late term, non emergency, non rape/incest abortions, your one of the fascists who would rage against their life,liberty & pursuit of happiness?

C'mon drugs included, you better than that

If not, good for you.
move to a state where you can kill on demand.
My state of New Jersey will pay for the right to kill your babies & Biden is saving the soul of America after all.


Full disclosure, did an estimate for the winery today. They didn't let me leave till I had choice selection




just pointing out the inaccuracy of your statement. 2-3 is very different from 13-25...
Dg west deptford Offline
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Yeah, I was buzzed & looking for trouble

You have more faith in our states to vote conscience then me.
I still hold to 2 or 3.

You must be a glass half full guy

& frank, apology accepted but to be clear I was more offended at being called religious then a drunk Pooty supporter.;-)

believer or brother are my preferred pronouns.
I'll accept nearly any derogatory slanderous insult you can think of but ....

Religious!

Ewww , that's just gross man!
frankj1 Offline
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believer it is...and smiling at the "buzzed" confession.
Sunoverbeach Offline
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What's the difference between baseball and politics? In baseball you're out if you're caught stealing.
Speyside2 Offline
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What is the difference between a hooker and a politician? With a hooker you enjoyed ****ing.
Speyside2 Offline
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DG, I like the statement vote conscience. It takes a whole lot of stuff out of the equation that never belonged there.
HockeyDad Offline
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Any cities burning yet? I’m going to put a special on for the weekend: it’s a torch, pitchfork, coat hanger combo pack!
RayR Offline
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So I heard this morning that in preparation for their violent leftist insurrection, some peaceful protesting activists took another leak on the Supreme Court justices by releasing the names and addresses of the most hated members of the court so they and their families can be intimidated with violence, DOXXED and stuff.
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This has nothing to do with abortion. This is about Democrat control of their lives and raising money to try and retain power. Democrats don't give a D_mn about anyone or anything except themselves. They will always be vile violent people; it is ingrained in them.

JGKAMIN Offline
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RayR wrote:
So I heard this morning that in preparation for their violent leftist insurrection, some peaceful protesting activists took another leak on the Supreme Court justices by releasing the names and addresses of the most hated members of the court so they and their families can be intimidated with violence, DOXXED and stuff.

Just the conservative justices have been doxxed which is totally unacceptable with the crazies out there in this world. The leakers of the decision as well as this information should be dealt with swiftly.
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COVID19 wrote:
People who think “My body, my right” are selfish and don’t deserve to live or vote in a open society when they verbalize such irresponsible behavior.

frankj1 Offline
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so, regardless of who really did this leak, regardless of which position they favor, it was an inexcusable act.
I do not believe the end justifies the means, even if things go my way.
RayR Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
so, regardless of who really did this leak, regardless of which position they favor, it was an inexcusable act.
I do not believe the end justifies the means, even if things go my way.


And which way would that be? Eh?
ZRX1200 Offline
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Frank.

Just got an Apple news alert about the SCOTUS and “the leak” what it means to reproductive rights and the court itself.

No ****ing mention of judges getting doxed, fundraising (I’ve gotten 3 separate donation request emails) or the violence. The violence that was worse than January 6th…..

2 lines of thought:
Leak to pressure justices to change their votes
More kabuki theater and riling up the base
Sunoverbeach Offline
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I think we have to get rid of democracy. All in favor, raise your hand
frankj1 Offline
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RayR wrote:
And which way would that be? Eh?

not remotely applicable to my post.
frankj1 Offline
#98 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Frank.

Just got an Apple news alert about the SCOTUS and “the leak” what it means to reproductive rights and the court itself.

No ****ing mention of judges getting doxed, fundraising (I’ve gotten 3 separate donation request emails) or the violence. The violence that was worse than January 6th…..

2 lines of thought:
Leak to pressure justices to change their votes
More kabuki theater and riling up the base

protest violence?
what you gots?
delta1 Offline
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the same government can force a woman to have an unwanted baby, but can't force folks to wear a protective mask in enclosed, confined spaces when a deadly virus is about...both can have life/death ramifications for the individual and consequences for society at large...

In the modern industrialized world, there are about 73 million abortions performed annually...and the number is growing...

Suriname, Mali, Laos, Philippines, Egypt, Iraq, Gabon, Congo, and Madagascar are the only nations that ban abortions...not sure the USA has much in common with that select group...
ZRX1200 Offline
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^ the GOVERNMENT has done no such thing. R vs W bypassed the legislative process going straight to the courts. A horny broad can still get an abortion in a friendly murder state, it’s just like owning guns.
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