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Supreme Court Roe v. Wade Draft Decision Leaked
RayR Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
not remotely applicable to my post.


Can't be honest..Eh?
I was just wondering if you are straight or go both ways.
HockeyDad Offline
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delta1 wrote:
the same government can force a woman to have an unwanted baby, but can't force folks to wear a protective mask in enclosed, confined spaces when a deadly virus is about...both can have life/death ramifications for the individual and consequences for society at large...

In the modern industrialized world, there are about 73 million abortions performed annually...and the number is growing...

Suriname, Mali, Laos, Philippines, Egypt, Iraq, Gabon, Congo, and Madagascar are the only nations that ban abortions...not sure the USA has much in common with that select group...



The government did force folks to wear a mask in any place it desired because of a deadly virus.

The government did force people to get an experimental vaccine.

It’s not too far a stretch that one day the government forces people to get abortions based on a government defined selection criteria. We may need to start writing this law now. The earth is past its carrying capacity and climate change is an existential threat.


Speyside2 Offline
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^ Hey, I'm all in on forced sterilization for anyone with a two digit IQ!!!
CelticBomber Offline
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ZRX1200 wrote:
^ the GOVERNMENT has done no such thing. R vs W bypassed the legislative process going straight to the courts. A horny broad can still get an abortion in a friendly murder state, it’s just like owning guns.


How did R v W bypass the legislative process? It's the Supreme Courts job to make rulings on the Constitutionality of laws. Three years prior a Texas judge ruled that the Texas law on abortions was unconstitutional. Before that it was bans on contraceptives for married couples and then single people.

When the Supreme Court or any court strikes down a law on Constitutional grounds they aren't bypassing the legislature. They're doing the exact thing the Supreme Court and our lower court system was setup to do in the first place.

It has something to do with checks and balances but that might just be a rumor depending which party has control at the time.

RayR Offline
#105 Posted:
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Wrong CB, if the Supreme Court can strike down a law or uphold a law on supposed constitutional grounds or not, then it becomes a Super Legislature. The most ridiculous belief is that the judges are unbiased non-partisans and base their opinions on the real meaning of them wurds in the Constitution at all times.

There was no constitutional support for Row vs. Wade to override individual state laws, just a weak azz argument based on the right to privacy.
rfenst Online
#106 Posted:
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zitotczito wrote:
The Democrats destroy everything they touch and now they have done it to the Supreme Court. The lesson is that Democrats will do anything and I mean anything to get their way and will destroy anything and anyone to do it. You can never trust a Democrat, and I mean never.

The person who did this must have their career destroyed, period!

I don't care if the draft upheld Roe. SCOTUS franked up egregiously. The leak had nothing to do with politics. Try a little harder next time.
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RayR wrote:
Wrong CB, if the Supreme Court can strike down a law or uphold a law on supposed constitutional grounds or not, then it becomes a Super Legislature. The most ridiculous belief is that the judges are unbiased non-partisans and base their opinions on the real meaning of them wurds in the Constitution at all times.

There was no constitutional support for Row vs. Wade to override individual state laws, just a weak azz argument based on the right to privacy.


I'm wrong. Really? So what's the point of the Executive, Legislative and Judicial branches? That weak azz argument is called the 14th amendment.
rfenst Online
#108 Posted:
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olivablunt wrote:
You are really confident about that considering that this is certainly not the first time it's happened. Even Dred Scott V. Sanford got leaked. Even if that were the case, why do you immediately jump to Biden's nominee as the source? What does Jackson hold to gain from that?

What a bunch of irrelevant, ignorant comments in this thread about Katanji Brown- she is not even sworn in yet.
rfenst Online
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RayR wrote:
So I heard this morning that in preparation for their violent leftist insurrection, some peaceful protesting activists took another leak on the Supreme Court justices by releasing the names and addresses of the most hated members of the court so they and their families can be intimidated with violence, DOXXED and stuff.

Do you mea, protesting activists like Clarence Thomas' wife?
rfenst Online
#110 Posted:
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RayR wrote:
Can't be honest..Eh?
I was just wondering if you are straight or go both ways.

F you, Ray.
rfenst Online
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CelticBomber wrote:
How did R v W bypass the legislative process? It's the Supreme Courts job to make rulings on the Constitutionality of laws. Three years prior a Texas judge ruled that the Texas law on abortions was unconstitutional. Before that it was bans on contraceptives for married couples and then single people.

When the Supreme Court or any court strikes down a law on Constitutional grounds they aren't bypassing the legislature. They're doing the exact thing the Supreme Court and our lower court system was setup to do in the first place.


It has something to do with checks and balances but that might just be a rumor depending which party has control at the time.

Bingo!
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RayR wrote:
Wrong CB, if the Supreme Court can strike down a law or uphold a law on supposed constitutional grounds or not, then it becomes a Super Legislature. The most ridiculous belief is that the judges are unbiased non-partisans and base their opinions on the real meaning of them wurds in the Constitution at all times.

There was no constitutional support for Row vs. Wade to override individual state laws, just a weak azz argument based on the right to privacy.



Just wondering; have you ever read Article III, Section II of the Constitution?
RayR Offline
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Abrignac wrote:
Just wondering; have you ever read Article III, Section II of the Constitution?


Ya, and ?????
Sunoverbeach Offline
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Germany is now advising everyone to stock up on cheese and sausages. This is the wurst kase scenario
Speyside2 Offline
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Ant, a good follow up would be, if you read it how come you didn't understand a single word of it? 98.2% chance the response will mention the Mices institute.
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
Germany is now advising everyone to stock up on cheese and sausages. This is the wurst kase scenario

goot one
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Danke
RayR Offline
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Speyside2 wrote:
Ant, a good follow up would be, if you read it how come you didn't understand a single word of it? 98.2% chance the response will mention the Mices institute.


I was waiting for an argument by you that an article in the constitution specifically gives unlimited powers to a majority in that tribunal of politically appointed lawyers to upend the entire system of federalism.
So I await your wisdom.

If I mention a source in my response... I give you fair warning it won't be from the DNC, the Communist Party, Jacobin Magazine, the SPLC, or the Biden Ministry of Truth. That's just the way I am.

BTW...your spelling still sucks.


RayR Offline
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The mother F'ing insurrectionist terrorists are storming churches on Mother's Day!

NYC Churchgoers Persevere in Prayer as Pro-Abortion Protesters Stage Mock Abortions and Blaspheme Jesus


https://www.westernjournal.com/nyc-churchgoers-persevere-prayer-pro-abortion-protesters-stage-mock-abortions-blaspheme-jesus/


Pro-Abortion Group Seemingly Encouraging Protesters to Storm Mothers' Day Church Services


https://www.westernjournal.com/pro-abortion-group-seemingly-encouraging-protesters-storm-mothers-day-church-services/


State AG Drops Bad News for Pro-Abortion Mobs Looking to Storm Churches

https://www.westernjournal.com/state-ag-drops-bad-news-pro-abortion-mobs-looking-storm-churches/


Pro-Abortion Extremists Continue to Disrupt Church Services

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/saraharnold/2022/05/08/proabortion-extremists-terrorize-catholic-church-goers-n2606924
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People who want to share their religious or political views with you almost never want you to share yours with them
RayR Offline
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Yes...well, I don't know how much more one can take of the radical left's peaceful protesting. Think

Pro-Abortion Extremists Trash Catholic Church

The Sacred Heart of Mary Catholic Church in Boulder, Colorado was vandalized with pro-abortion graffiti again Tuesday, the second time in less than a year.

Abortion activists targeted the church after news broke of a leaked draft opinion from the U.S. Supreme Court that overturns Roe v. Wade. Pro-life pregnancy centers and pro-life advocates also have been the targets of vandalism, violence and harassment this week.

Catholic News Agency reports vandals covered the Sacred Heart of Mary building, doors and a church vehicle with pro-abortion slogans spray-painted in blue and red. They also smashed at least one window, and several statues were covered with paint.

More...

https://www.lifenews.com/2022/05/06/pro-abortion-extremists-trash-catholic-church/
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RayR wrote:
Yes...well, I don't know how much more one can take of the radical left's peaceful protesting. Think

Pro-Abortion Extremists Trash Catholic Church

The Sacred Heart of Mary Catholic Church in Boulder, Colorado was vandalized with pro-abortion graffiti again Tuesday, the second time in less than a year.

Abortion activists targeted the church after news broke of a leaked draft opinion from the U.S. Supreme Court that overturns Roe v. Wade. Pro-life pregnancy centers and pro-life advocates also have been the targets of vandalism, violence and harassment this week.

Catholic News Agency reports vandals covered the Sacred Heart of Mary building, doors and a church vehicle with pro-abortion slogans spray-painted in blue and red. They also smashed at least one window, and several statues were covered with paint.

More...

https://www.lifenews.com/2022/05/06/pro-abortion-extremists-trash-catholic-church/


Terrible act on a House of God by a miniscule percentage of those who support free choice.
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Almost makes me jealous of the catholics

Although, I've always said I'm more catholic than the Pope. Just without Romanism & idolatry.

But Good for them!
It is a blessed thing to be so hated by such a spirit.

Marvel not
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rfenst wrote:
Terrible act on a House of God by a miniscule percentage of those who support free choice.


I think the term is “mostly peaceful protests”.
RayR Offline
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I guess the minuscule assortment of lefties storming the churches were the mostly peaceful ones compared to the really hateful violent ones were FIRE BOMBING!

Wisconsin pro-life group’s office hit with Molotov cocktail, abortion-rights graffiti


By Valerie Richardson - The Washington Times - Sunday, May 8, 2022

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A Wisconsin pro-life group’s office was set on fire early Sunday and vandalized with abortion-themed graffiti in what authorities are investigating as an arson.

The Wisconsin Family Action headquarters suffered fire damage after someone threw a Molotov cocktail inside the building in Madison, which was discovered after a passerby saw flames coming out of the building at about 6 a.m., according to police.

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https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/may/8/wisconsin-pro-life-groups-office-hit-molotov-cockt/
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No matter what comes of our SCOTUS our local Birth Choice Charities, clinics & communities need our attention & prayerful $upport!

Lives are being saved & there's no formula!

Perilous times brothers
Sunoverbeach Offline
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If you are not part of the solution, you're probably running for President.
RayR Offline
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Fine them! Lock em' up! Intimidation of judges is obstructing justice!

Pro-abortion protests outside the homes of SCOTUS justices may be illegal

CHRIS ENLOE
May 10, 2022

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Pro-abortion protesters descended upon the personal residences of the Supreme Court's conservative-leaning justices last week after a leaked opinion draft indicated the court had voted to overturn abortion precedents.

But those protests may not be protected under the First Amendment.

Federal law 18 U.S.C. §1507 — part of a chapter on obstruction of justice — prohibits exactly what the leftist protesters are doing.

The statute reads:

Whoever, with the intent of interfering with, obstructing, or impeding the administration of justice, or with the intent of influencing any judge, juror, witness, or court officer, in the discharge of his duty, pickets or parades in or near a building housing a court of the United States, or in or near a building or residence occupied or used by such judge, juror, witness, or court officer, or with such intent uses any sound-truck or similar device or resorts to any other demonstration in or near any such building or residence, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.

The question, then, is why has the Justice Department not enforced the law?
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RayR wrote:
I guess the minuscule assortment of lefties storming the churches were the mostly peaceful ones compared to the really hateful violent ones were FIRE BOMBING!

Wisconsin pro-life group’s office hit with Molotov cocktail, abortion-rights graffiti


By Valerie Richardson - The Washington Times - Sunday, May 8, 2022



Remind me. Who set off a bomb at the Olympics in Atlanta?

Between 1973 - 2003, abortion clinics have been the targets of more than 300 acts of extreme violence, including arson, bombings, murders and butyric acid attacks. - Rand.org

That doesn't account for the last 19 years.

Both sides have crazys.
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That’s just a terrible act by a small percentage of pro lifers…..
HockeyDad Offline
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ZRX1200 wrote:
That’s just a terrible act by a small percentage of pro lifers…..


I think the term is “mostly peaceful protests”.
RayR Offline
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I think Celtic is doing that WHATABOUTISM thang again.
Sunoverbeach Offline
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What's the difference between a politician and a flying pig? The letter F
Mike3316 Offline
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Speyside2 wrote:
^ Hey, I'm all in on forced sterilization for anyone with a two digit IQ!!!

The SCOTUS actually agrees with you. See Buck v Bell - where the Court ruled that a state statute permitting compulsory sterilization of the unfit, including the intellectually disabled, "for the protection and health of the state" was not a violation of the Constitution. Oliver Wendel Holmes wrote the the opinion containing the famous quote (if you went to law school) "three generations of idiots is enough." While state sanctioned forced sterilization is not something that anyone practices in this country anymore - the ruling does still stand (technically).
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CelticBomber wrote:
Remind me. Who set off a bomb at the Olympics in Atlanta?

Between 1973 - 2003, abortion clinics have been the targets of more than 300 acts of extreme violence, including arson, bombings, murders and butyric acid attacks. - Rand.org

That doesn't account for the last 19 years.

Both sides have crazys.

Your whataboutism aside ..... the difference between this bombing and the abortion clinic attacks is pretty clear. This bombing was of a Catholic counseling center that does nothing beside TALK to pregnant women who are in distress. They had, nor will they have, anything to do with the SCOTUS's RvW decision. This was a completely innocent counseling center staffed by volunteers. Unlike abortion clinics. While I do not support in any way the acts of violence directed at those clinics - they were not disassociated with the presumed reason for the bombing.
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Mike3316 wrote:
The SCOTUS actually agrees with you. See Buck v Bell - where the Court ruled that a state statute permitting compulsory sterilization of the unfit, including the intellectually disabled, "for the protection and health of the state" was not a violation of the Constitution. Oliver Wendel Holmes wrote the the opinion containing the famous quote (if you went to law school) "three generations of idiots is enough." While state sanctioned forced sterilization is not something that anyone practices in this country anymore - the ruling does still stand (technically).


Yep, that scientific rage called eugenics is still popular with the left. Gotta protect the health of the state. Hilter got a lot of inspiration from that.
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Mike3316 wrote:
Your whataboutism aside ..... the difference between this bombing and the abortion clinic attacks is pretty clear. This bombing was of a Catholic counseling center that does nothing beside TALK to pregnant women who are in distress. They had, nor will they have, anything to do with the SCOTUS's RvW decision. This was a completely innocent counseling center staffed by volunteers. Unlike abortion clinics. While I do not support in any way the acts of violence directed at those clinics - they were not disassociated with the presumed reason for the bombing.


The word "Catholic" is the key. Everything associated with that word has a target on its back, the leftist mob seeks vengeance by intimidation or outright violence for the supposed future overturning of Roe v. Wade.

6 of the 9 Supreme Court Justices are Catholic too. So they are targeted by the mob. Lacie Wooten Holway, who lives in the same neighborhood as Brett Kavanaugh. billed her "protest" in front of his house on Facebook as a “neighborhood candlelight vigil for Roe v Wade and abortion rights against our corrupt, theocratic Supreme Court.”
In from of the camera she said to WUSA9 News “If you take away our choices, we will riot,” and “I organize peaceful candlelit vigils in front of his house. … We’re about to get doomsday, so I’m not going to be civil to that man at all.”
Sounds like a violent threat to me.


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Hey! What's this? Watermelon Commies, Green on the outside, red on the inside

Hillary-Endorsed Abortion Group Targeting Churches Is A Front For Revolutionary Communists


BY: KYLE SHIDELER
MAY 09, 2022

The radical Revolutionary Communist Party is behind Rise Up 4 Abortion, the group organizing Mother’s Day protests across the country.


Quote:
Following the leak of a draft Supreme Court opinion in the Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization case, left-wing organizers have swept into action, launching rallies and events designed to put pressure on the justices. Over the Mother’s Day Weekend protestors forced Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito to an undisclosed location and carried out disruptive demonstrations outside — and in some cases inside — a number of churches including New York’s St. Patrick Cathedral, where a picture of pro-life Catholics blocking the entrance to the church from screaming protestors went viral.

In a number of pictures and videos from the Mother’s Day protests, abortion protestors were seen wearing green bandanas, shirts, and holding green banners, part of a #Green4Abortion campaign. The color choice was even endorsed by former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who tweeted out an announcement for a protest in New York’s Foley Square with the instructions “wear green.”

More...

https://thefederalist.com/2022/05/09/hillary-endorsed-abortion-group-targeting-churches-is-a-front-for-revolutionary-communists/



izonfire Offline
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The irony is the lengths that certain people will go to in order to keep abortion alive…
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^ We do not want to revert to the early 20th century. Maybe we should burn witches at the stake also? That way we could go way farther backwards.
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izonfire wrote:
The irony is the lengths that certain people will go to in order to keep abortion alive…


People who want to keep abortion alive as it turns out are all survivors of abortion.

I made it through the wilderness, somehow I made it through!
RayR Offline
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Speyside2 wrote:
^ We do not want to revert to the early 20th century. Maybe we should burn witches at the stake also? That way we could go way farther backwards.


NO...Witches aren't real no matter what them old superstitious Puritans said.
LIZARD PEOPLE ARE REAL! Roast lizard sounds like a fine idea. 🔥🦎🔥
That's the way forward!
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Congressman should wear uniforms like NASCAR drivers so we can identify their corporate sponsors.
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Mike3316 wrote:
Your whataboutism aside.....


It's not whataboutism when he keeps making the point that only lefties are violent. I never said one excused the other. Context is important. Read more better.
RayR Offline
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Lefties are the most violent deadliest predators that ever existed. Even the most violent and so-called by the lefties, right-wingers share the same rabid mindset as lefties.

Get ready, the mentally deranged NATIONALIZE INFANTICIDE NOW! crowd is promising "The Summer of Rage"

Are you sure you want to call the Roe protests "the summer of rage?"

JAZZ SHAW May 15, 2022 11:01 AM ET

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During the BLM riots that swept the nation in 2020 and beyond, critics of the violence and mayhem took to sarcastically calling that period the “summer of love.” Now a new wave of angry protests is erupting in multiple cities targeting the Supreme Court over its anticipated ruling that would mostly overturn Roe v. Wade. The topic may be quite different than the BLM marches, but the tactics are already starting to look similar. Protest organizers have already announced that they want this period to be a “summer of rage.” But is that really the way to win the battle for hearts and minds? If I had the chance to ask these organizers one question, it would relate to what precisely they hope to accomplish, since the public has no leverage over the decisions of the court whether they hand down a ruling you approve of or one that you loathe. (Reuters)

https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2022/05/15/are-you-sure-you-want-to-call-the-roe-protests-the-summer-of-rage-n469459






Brewha Offline
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Speyside2 wrote:
^ We do not want to revert to the early 20th century. Maybe we should burn witches at the stake also? That way we could go way farther backwards.

We would not be in this mess as a society if we had respected the science of bloodletting…
Speyside2 Offline
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Great idea! Let's start with Ray Ray and Tugger.
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Remind me, please. Which one of you came up with the brilliant idea of calling our immigration policy Row vs. Wade?
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When asked about Roe vs Wade, Biden replied that those were two ways immigrants can enter the US at the southern border.

One fortee NINE!
RayR Offline
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That Biden...he's like smart at spaining things.
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