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ZRX1200 Offline
#101 Posted:
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Poor Whistlebritches don’t have time for Z’s smokes!!
deadeyedick Offline
#102 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Poor Whistlebritches don’t have time for Z’s smokes!!


Maybe he is skeered ya put some yam yam in 'em?
ZRX1200 Offline
#103 Posted:
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I promised only the washcloth in the ziplock smelled like chlorophorm.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#104 Posted:
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I heard chloroform evens out the pepper blast.
Whistlebritches Offline
#105 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Poor Whistlebritches don’t have time for Z’s smokes!!



Well they are a little on the large side.........And I smoke indoors.Plus I've had a stomach virus all week,diarrhea, vomit,gag,rinse and repeat.Just started feeling better today,real food,no nausea,no azzhole dry heaves,I'm feeling better.Maybe tomorrow I'll try to get a smoke in.....we shall see
frankj1 Offline
#106 Posted:
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no azzhole?
how do you have sex?
ZRX1200 Offline
#107 Posted:
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He does have a purty mouf.
Whistlebritches Offline
#108 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
no azzhole?
how do you have sex?



Frank you are just wrong..........along with your long lost son Z


Whistlebritches Offline
#109 Posted:
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Welcome to Ron's wild ass guesses

Finally starting the Z-pak............

#1 is a huge,by my standards,6x54-56.Kind of a sloppy cap but good construction overall.Nice barnyard aroma on the wrapper. Cut with a guillotine,very open draw.Cold draw reveals very little maybe a little sweet tobacco and leather.The initial draw after sparking up is very minerally and mild.After a few puffs the mineral note settles down and it becomes minty.Throughout the rest of the smoke,tossed a 1/3 due to a sour note that could not be purged,pretty much a one trick pony with that mineral note continuing with a little leather and coffee trying to kick in here and there.This may be way off due to the fact that I do not smoke larger ring guages and have never had much skill at picking out flavors in these big sticks.It seems they lose so much flavor due to the filler,binder,wrapper ratio.Anyway I'm gonna call this stick the everyday smoke..........we shall see.
ZRX1200 Offline
#110 Posted:
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Hope you enjoy the other 2 more!
Whistlebritches Offline
#111 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Hope you enjoy the other 2 more!



Jamie I appreciate the opportunity to try new things all the time..........I may not dig everything but the opportunity is what matters.Thanks Brother
delta1 Offline
#112 Posted:
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can't believe Z actually sent Whistle that dried donkey d**K
ZRX1200 Offline
#113 Posted:
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Hey now….

I always spit on it first.
frankj1 Offline
#114 Posted:
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this...
might end well!
Whistlebritches Offline
#115 Posted:
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delta1 wrote:
can't believe Z actually sent Whistle that dried donkey d**K


Damnit Al..............now I gotta go brush my teeth
frankj1 Offline
#116 Posted:
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Whistlebritches wrote:
Damnit Al..............now I gotta go brush my teeth

if you lived in Maine you'd have to go brush your tooth
deadeyedick Offline
#117 Posted:
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Cigar marked #2 from Marcus

About a 6X44 kinda corona gorda with a very dry, dark golden wrapper. Inspection shows very firm, hard roll with no soft spots. I was afraid this would make for a plugged draw but after clipping the draw was perfect. Not much except tobaccy note on the cold draw. Easy light and on we go. The first third was uneventful with just a nice tangy taste and salt on the lips from the wrapper.

At the 1/3 mark a small split 1/2” developed in the middle and I licked the spot to keep it from propagating any farther. The wrapper seems delicate and may have some age to it. The burn became crooked running up one side but I did not correct it trying to see if it would self-correct. A little light spice appeared and played nicely with the tanginess. The retro produced an unexpected BLAST of white and red pepper! Sneaky strong maybe?

At the 1/2 point I corrected the burn as it had gotten pretty lopsided and the wrapper split even more. The flavors started building from medium toward med+ and that tangy taste came on strong. I could not detect any change in the taste but just a slow build of the strength.

Unfortunately the wrapper continued to split and unravel which took away some of the enjoyment from the tasting. A slight sweetness played against the stronger elements of meatiness and the pepper elements came on stronger toward the end. Not overpowering but I did note a slight buzz towards the end.

This was obviously a really nice cigar and I expected it to be the top tier one since I had already smoked the other two but due to the wrapper issues I could not get the full enjoyment from it. Woulda/coulda.

Thanks Marcus for the opportunity and I need to buy some of the second sample which was my favorite of the three.

Edit from Marcus today: Opus X Perfecxion X, high end? Sorry it didn't perform better.
mjrburn Offline
#118 Posted:
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Awesome job with the reviews DED! You nailed the levels, got all three correct.
1 - Stolen Throne Call To Arms cg, mid level.
2 - Opus X Perfecxion X, high end? Sorry it didn't perform better.
3 - Illusione Rothchildes Connecticut, every day.
I enjoyed reading your tasting notes and am glad at least one of them was to your liking.
delta1 Offline
#119 Posted:
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Blind Review, “C”, from DED
7/7/2022

Start: 9:30pm Finish: 11pm Total: 1 1/2 hrs
5 X 50 robusto, light brown, natural shade wrapper with hint of red
paired with iced water

The cigar was firm and solid, with little give when pinched. Negligible fragrance, other than a mild pencil wood from the exterior. The pre-light draw was bland, and a little tight.

First few puffs had a strong Cuban twang covering a nice rich tobacco flavor. There was just a bit of spice and barely any pepper, through the nose. Other flavors appeared: hay, earth, minerals. Smoke was smooth and mellow but packed with flavor. Each puff seemed a little different than the one before. The twang backed off to let the myriad flavors shine. There was cocoa, mild coffee, marshmallow, nuts, hay, earth and minerals. Ash was solid… tapped off at 1 inch. This is an outstanding cigar, brimming with flavors.

The second third had the flavors coming together into a nice herbal veggie broth, along with rich tobacco, on the retrohale. There was a touch of citrus and spice in the mouth, but no pepper. Cocoa, light coffee and mild tea popped in and out. About halfway through, the strength of the cigar kicks in, and I’m pushed into the back of my recliner. Past the halfway mark, I tasted some saltiness in the herbal veggie broth. There was a mild minty quality that blended with the herbal veggie broth flavor that was dominant. When I enjoy a great cigar like this one, I’ll let the smoke slowly drift out of the nose, so my palate in the sinuses can enjoy the full and lingering tastes of the flavors of the smoke.

The final third began as a continuation of the end of the second third, a rich minty herbal veggie broth. This was a strong yet mild and mellow smoke, full of flavors. There were a few flowery notes that came and went in the final third. Some earthy mineral flavors came on to join the minty herbal blend near the end. I really enjoyed this cigar, which smoked cool and true to a half inch nub. I used a draw poker pierced through the end so I could get a few last puffs without burning my fingers. I rarely find a cigar worthy of this effort.

Thanks to DED for sending me this wonderful cigar, and also for the fine set of three. I also appreciate his all-Cuban lineup of ride-alongs…some extra nice smoking pleasure that I am looking forward to.

I’m guessing that the “C” was the high-end, a Cuban, possibly a Bolivar Royal Corona or an El Rey de Mundo Choix Supreme.

The “A” and the “B” were very close in my evaluation of their flavors and quality. I will give the “A” the nod for being the second tier cigar, and using the size as a guide and the Cuban cigar flavors it had, maybe a Juan Lopez #1 or a H. Upmann Mag 46, if we go back to the pre-pandemic pricing levels of Cuban cigars. It’s impossible to find corona sized Cubans for the second tier pricing level of $6 - $10 nowadays.

So that leaves the “B” as the everyday smoke, and what a wonderful one it is. It’s a perfect mild cigar to have with the morning coffee, with enough complexity and body to enjoy at any time. It reminded me of a Cabaiguan or an Ashton Classic, though it’d be hard to find those at below $5 a cigar.

Thank you, DED for a great selection to taste and review, as well as a wonderful selection of "throw-ins."
deadeyedick Offline
#120 Posted:
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Very nice reviews Al. Fooled ya a little bit on the order but your taster is working just fine or at least is similar to mine.

I try to buy on specials when I see them so prices may not be quite correct but close.

A - Warped Sky Flower (top tier but not Cuban about $13)
B - Buenaventura Creamas C100 (everyday and under $5) a morning favorite for me also
C - Vegueros Centrofinos CC (about $9)
Jakethesnake86 Offline
#121 Posted:
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Buenaventura makes some good smokes. I plan to explor that line a little further. Nice reviews guys.
Whistlebritches Offline
#122 Posted:
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Z-pak #2

Bout a 6x52-54 with a very well constructed , very dark wrapper and a nice triple cap.Opens with some white pepper which dissipates quickly as cocoa and leather take over.This continues thru the first third.The second third is much the same..........this cigar may be one dimensional but in a very good way.The final third is much the same but much richer.....more of a wet leather and milk chocolate at this point.My thoughts are this is a very good cigar.This stick screams Padron (Thousand Series) but the wrapper seemed different,less rustic than any Padron I have smoked.

I dug it and I would smoke it again but in a smaller vitola if available..........this stick would really shine in a 42-46 ring gauge IMO.


Thanks Jamie
ZRX1200 Offline
#123 Posted:
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From your lips to God’s ears.
Whistlebritches Offline
#124 Posted:
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Finally............Z-pak #3

This is a beautiful chestnut semi-pressed 6x52ish stick.Construction is spot on with a gorgeous triple cap.Not much on the pre light draw but it is perfect.........just the slightest redistance.Initial light is sweet tea,absolutely delicious sweet tea.In this first third the sweet tea opens up some stronger coffee notes intermingled with leather.By the second third the coffee notes progress to a sweet cappuccino........a stout sweet cappuccino dancing with leather.In the last third some black pepper kicks in and really over powers the earlier coffee notes.As the black pepper starts to settle dark chocolate and dark roasted black coffee kick in and last all the way to the nub.This was a very good cigar that I would smoke again,hopefully in a smaller vitola,I think a robusto might be perfect.


Thanks Jamie..............much appreciated Brother
ZRX1200 Offline
#125 Posted:
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Nice reviews Ron and appreciate your willingness to step outside your norms.

Cigar #1
Wrapper Sumatra
Origin Honduras

Pile on the pleasure!

CAO took their time with this one. Initially, CAO introduced pilón fermented tobaccos in 2015 with the 90-rated CAO Pilón. The pilón process creates premium leaves that are rich and smooth with a touch of spice, that are worth the wait. Despite CAO using a process that takes longer to cure their leaves, they added in an additional two years of aging that provides a well-balanced experience.

The name Pilón Añejo roughly translates into "aged pile," which is a technique that has been around since the 19th century to cure tobacco. Rick Rodriguez, CAO’s blender, choose a new blend for this release. A combination of Dominican and Nicaraguan fillers bound by a Honduran binder. To complete this well-aged cigar, CAO went with an Ecuadorian Sumatra wrapper. This cigar clocks in with a medium-full profile and is great to pair with rye, rum, or porter! Only 5,000 boxes were made, so you need to grab these today if you want to give these a try!

(Every day)


Cigar #2

Wrapper Maduro, Nicaraguan
Origin Nicaragua

Additions worth the wait!

To celebrate 20 years of the Perdomo Reserve line being on the market, Perdomo Cigars wanted to create an addition to the line that honored their brand and its history. In addition to their new sun-grown version, they went above and beyond and created Perdomo Reserve 10th Anniversary Box-Pressed Maduro too.

These Maduro treasures are a beautiful box-pressed Nicaraguan puro that utilizes six-year aged Cuban-seed Nicaraguan wrappers and filler tobaccos hand picked from their prestigious farms in Esteli, Condega, and Jalapa Valley for the blend. The wrapper is a Maduro Nicargauan leaf, that has been bourbon barrel aged 14 months and produces a medium to full-bodied blend with notes of a natural sweetness with hints of dark cocoa and espresso. You're gonna be back for more. Trust us!

(Mid tier)

Cigar #3


Wrapper Nicaraguan
Origin Nicaragua

Joya turns 50

50 years is a long time. You don’t believe me? Let’s journey back to 1968 – the year the oldest cigar factory in Nicaragua was established. The Beatles were still a band, the legal drinking age was 18, gas was 34 cents, and the internet wasn’t even a thing. While all this has changed, Joya de Nicaragua has been perfecting the craft of premium handmade cigars. 50 years of accumulated knowledge, experience, and resilience all come full circle with the Joya de Nicaragua Cinco Decadas.

This cigar celebrates an impressive milestone, so the Joya team worked tirelessly to create a Nicaraguan cigar of unparalleled elegance. The blend has not been disclosed but we do know it’s a medium to full-bodied Nicaraguan puro made exclusively with the companies best extra-vintage leaves. Cinco Decadas was originally rolled up in two specially selected sizes – the Diadema and El General - the first sizes ever rolled at the factory. The Funadador was created to exhibit the best possible tobacco for this blend, and pays tribute to the founders of Joya de Nicaragua. Quantities of these special cigars are very limited, and it's only a matter of time before they're gone. Grab a box today, and toast to 50 years with some of the best tobacco on the planet.

(Upper tier)

Unfortunately these blends don’t have size options, I’ve bitched to Nick before about it and he talked costs I in return asked why the Cameroon petite Coronas are so cheap then…..this is why I chose these for you though 2/3 I like a lot.
Whistlebritches Offline
#126 Posted:
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Yes I have bitched to Nick for years.............of all the cigars no longer available the P2 Torfecto's in the Cameroon (natural) wrapper are the most missed of all.

Anyway the Perdomo and the Joya were very good smokes,have to keep my eye on them and see if they decide to make a 50rg or down.


Thanks Brother
ZRX1200 Offline
#127 Posted:
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Part of time thinks Nick has stuck with 3 rg choices is covering the biggest demographic as possible and making the construction as fool proof as possible for QC sake’s.
Jakethesnake86 Offline
#128 Posted:
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The 10th maduro is a winner. Haven’t tried the other two in the review but yeah. If they had a toro in 50 I’d own some. It is a good blend. Very good
ZRX1200 Offline
#129 Posted:
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I’d settle for a 50rg robusto……but a corona gorda or a lonsdale would be amazing.
Jakethesnake86 Offline
#130 Posted:
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I’ve been eying the Connecticut 10th on here. Are they good?
ZRX1200 Offline
#131 Posted:
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I don’t generally smoke Connie’s when I do they’re usually Sobremesa Creme brûlée
Sunoverbeach Offline
#132 Posted:
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I'd recommend giving that Isabela a try. It was an interesting one, especially for a connie

Some nice reviewing, gentlemens. The rest of you not so gentle types too

Jakethesnake86 Offline
#133 Posted:
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I do have some various Isabella stuff. Including the sparkle. It’s a Connie. Yeah I concur. Digging the reviews
stinger88 Offline
#134 Posted:
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Blind Review #2
Cigar number 2 was a deep brown…darker than the 1st one. Box press. Seems to be a fairly loose roll, cigar is a little “squishy”…should draw nicely once lit. I got a distinct body wash type of smell to the cigar, pre-light. Pre-light tase has zero pepper to it. Used the V-cut and was able to inhale smooth and easy.

As I thought, very easy light and a very light draw produced a crap load (official term) of smoke.

1st Third had a very chocolatey taste…and was very easy to keep lit. At times a bit of bitterness would sneak through the chocolate.

2nd Third…the cigar really starts to come into its own. The occasional bitterness has completely gone away and now I just get a steady, smooth chocolatey flavor. Not overpowering and not overly chocolatey…just nice.

3rd third…no change to the flavor profile but as I got toward the nub it definitely was harder to draw. Used telecaster’s nub tool to finish it on up.

Overall, the cigar surprised me…started off with a bit of intermittent bitterness and then really hit its stride. It hit its stride so well that I totally forget to keep up on the notes.

I am going with the medium one for this one. It was good but really kept to one note.
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#135 Posted:
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Blind Review #3
Cigar number 3…very dark brown, showing some glue residue on a larger than average amount of the cigar. I am going to guess that the cigar had a large ring on it.

Pre-light there was a mild sweetness. Very easy cigar to light and had a ruler straight burn throughout the smoke.

1st third…I am having a lot of trouble trying to figure out the multitude of flavors. Unlike cigar #2, this one was jumping all over with different flavors. I am not very good at picking out the subtle flavors in cigar…seems to be the case on this one too.

2nd third…my normally shotty flavor recognition skills are beaten into submission. I am actually able to catch some of the flavors coursing through this cigar. I am definitely getting some chocolate, leather and hay. It is pretty hard to convey this “taste”. The taste “feels” like smooth leather. I know, doesn’t make sense but that it what kept coming to mind.

3rd third…flavor smooths out and some of the subtle hints have faded away. As I wrap up this cigar…the nicotine starts to sneak in and hit home.

Overall, this seems to be a bit more complex cigar than the other two.

I am going to say this is the high end cigar.

So, to recap…I went in order.
1. Low
2. Medium
3. High.

Delta, great selection of cigars. Thank you very much. I have a feeling that my guesses are going to suck but oh well, that is usually the case.

David.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#136 Posted:
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I I enjoyed the reviews, David. I'm noticing a pattern of the reviewer thinking poorly of their own work, myself included, but the audience loving it.

Also, I was running the numbers and the chance of success in this exercise is not very high. The options are get them all correct, get them all wrong, or get one correct. 33% is still a failing grade and getting only two right is impossible.
frankj1 Offline
#137 Posted:
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Wade Boggs went 1 for 3 and made the Hall of Fame
ZRX1200 Offline
#138 Posted:
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Pretty sure Wade Boggs drank 1 out of three beers in Boston during his playing days.
delta1 Offline
#139 Posted:
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Nice reviews, stinger...

you are correct that the #3 was the high end. It was a Plasencia Alma Fuerte.

the #1 was the medium tier, Joya de Nicaragua Cuatro Cinco.

#2 was the low end, CLE Prieto...just barely low end because I was able to find them for about $5/each...


thanks for hosting this fun exercise, David.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#140 Posted:
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My Eiroa hoeness is hurt by that classification
delta1 Offline
#141 Posted:
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I'm also a big fan of CLE/Eiroa stuff, with the First 20 Yrs Colorado a fave...

tbh...it is a med tier smoke, just good luck to find them at that price...

look at it thisaway.....the Prieto is a bargain if you can find them at $5...hint: well-known place's auction site
Sunoverbeach Offline
#142 Posted:
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Stay strong SOB. No need to buy. You did just get telehammered
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