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Just a thought to anyone rooting for civil war.
bgz Offline
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No matter who wins, we lose.

We will lose our position as top country.

Someone else will take it.

Libertarianism/anarchism won't work. I've thought about (to quote RayR... he seems to think only his thoughts are valid).

Here's why it won't work... because by time it's instantiated, we're already lost and weak and ripe for the taking.

Let's be real, someone always steps up and takes.

Maybe that's what RayR and like-minded people want... it doesn't work. Make yourself small like a bug, someone will step on you.
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I got news for you Benny.
Communism, Fascism or whatever big centralized progressive gubment nationalist scheme you got doesn't work.
It's societal decay from the inside. See Biden's America for example.

BTW...I thought you said all humans should be aborted? Think
CelticBomber Offline
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I thought we already fought this one? Didn't we win and lose?
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CelticBomber wrote:
I thought we already fought this one? Didn't we win and lose?

Best of three?
RayR Offline
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CelticBomber wrote:
I thought we already fought this one? Didn't we win and lose?


I think that the Revolutionary War generation won and lost. If only they didn't become insurrectionist/secessionist traitors to King George they could have lived peaceful-like "paying their fair share" and taking whatever orders would come from across the big pond. Winning!
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bgz wrote:
No matter who wins, we lose.

We will lose our position as top country.

Someone else will take it.

Libertarianism/anarchism won't work. I've thought about (to quote RayR... he seems to think only his thoughts are valid).

Here's why it won't work... because by time it's instantiated, we're already lost and weak and ripe for the taking.

Let's be real, someone always steps up and takes.

Maybe that's what RayR and like-minded people want... it doesn't work. Make yourself small like a bug, someone will step on you.


Agreed. One people within the United States of America can take down the United States of America,

We currently are only 3rd worst off. 1861-1865 and when the British did a literal, White House Warming party in 1814.

The whack jobs on the far left & right are the most unamerican americans. 'Cept for all the Central Americans crossing.


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Nobody roots for civil war, Mercy!
We already have lawlessness & Murder everywhere thanks to lefty libby proggy prog buffonery

Is this like the "white supremacist terrorism is the biggest threat to Americans" lie?

A week attempt at being divisive by leftist liars.

But it works on many dupes!

Why are Black's brutalizing & killing Asians all over the place lately?

You think that ends well?

Korean pop boy band should've been Roof top Koreans at the WH podium

War is upon us already Benny. Let's ask for peace

Lefty libs will beg for divisions & wars & hate in the name of race but you don't have to be one of them


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Dg west deptford wrote:
Nobody roots for civil war, Mercy!

Why are Black's brutalizing & killing Asians all over the place lately?



DG,
Do you have any data on this? If so, please do share and the source.
Was listening to NPR yesterday and they were talking about a 300% increase in violent crime against Asians.
Being the story itself is racial in nature, I thought they'd share racial information on the the aggressors.

The only reason I think it must be a non-white group is, they didn't breathlessly talk about white supremacists killing Asians in the street. Reporting on evil white men makes them wetter than a summertime typhoon in the Philippines.


**Edit**

Here is what I just found in an article. Unsure of how much the website can be trusted.

In New York City, where anti-Asian hate crime soared nearly nine-fold in 2020 over the year before, only two of the 20 people arrested last year in connection with these attacks were white, according to New York Police Department data analyzed by the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism. Eleven were African Americans, six were white Hispanics and one was a Black Hispanic.

Website

https://www.voanews.com/a/usa_anti-asian-hate-crime-crosses-racial-and-ethnic-lines/6203679.html
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RayR wrote:
I think that the Revolutionary War generation won and lost. If only they didn't become insurrectionist/secessionist traitors to King George they could have lived peaceful-like "paying their fair share" and taking whatever orders would come from across the big pond. Winning!



You aren't even trying anymore.
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Stogie1020 wrote:
Best of three?


HAH!

No do overs. (Those boys down south have been practicing!)
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If one is looking at the opposite perspective with hatred, disdain, and animosity, are they not themselves adding to the divide?
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8track npr?

Sigh*

We really do need to talk about propagandist media

I used to enjoy npr even remodeled a kitchen for the psychologist guy who has a show to this day but c'mon even the Simpsons mock it as a propaganda machination

The clip & pasters will be along shortly but don't watch the videos

There's a plethora of Godless merciless souls turned loose

The walls are down, Justice is fallen in the streets
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
If one is looking at the opposite perspective with hatred, disdain, and animosity, are they not themselves adding to the divide?


I suggest we subtract the hate and multiply the good vibes.


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DG, I think we are in the midst of an uncivil war. The leftist barbarians are at the gates crying BUILD BETTER BACK!.
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Looks like I didn't miss much
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Dg west deptford wrote:
8track npr?

Sigh*

We really do need to talk about propagandist media



Find listening to stuff I don’t agree with as being better for the mind. It’s fun finding how they wordsmith around actually answering questions. Critical thinking skills are something I like to hone. People who burn images of Fox or MSNBC each day into their TVs are on the fast track to Alzheimers.

The media more than generally can’t be trusted, I know that. Having the most luck with NewsNation in the morning.o the eight to ten regular contributors, there are only two where I can tell their mostly subtle biases. One left, one right. One such fumble today was a person talking about “the ten people made red in Buffalo.”. Ten? There were thirteen.

The three non African American lives didn’t matter? That type stuff chips away Credibility.

Do you have a source of data for you thought on violence against Asians is in deed primarily by African Americans?
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RayR wrote:
DG, I think we are in the midst of an uncivil war. The leftist barbarians are at the gates crying BUILD BETTER BACK!.

Had you not mentioned "leftist", then I would have thought you were talking about January 6th.
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8trackdisco wrote:
Find listening to stuff I don’t agree with as being better for the mind. It’s fun finding how they wordsmith around actually answering questions. Critical thinking skills are something I like to hone. People who burn images of Fox or MSNBC each day into their TVs are on the fast track to Alzheimers.

The media more than generally can’t be trusted, I know that. Having the most luck with NewsNation in the morning.o the eight to ten regular contributors, there are only two where I can tell their mostly subtle biases. One left, one right. One such fumble today was a person talking about “the ten people made red in Buffalo.”. Ten? There were thirteen.

The three non African American lives didn’t matter? That type stuff chips away Credibility.

Do you have a source of data for you thought on violence against Asians is in deed primarily by African Americans?

I think NPR is fine for learning about new subjects in depth whether or not I identify with whatever "slant" a piece might show. But, not all of it is slanted. Not all of it is even political. One can learn from anyone about anything without agreeing or adopting their view.
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What do you call a woman who flies a plane?
A pilot.
Dg west deptford Offline
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^ but what's a woman?
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A pilot who's a female
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define "female"...
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A human who is not a male, and may or may not be a pilot
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Yo 8Track…..Remember the knock out game?
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stePHan we used to be closer to Libertarianism than we are currently to a Representative Republic that follows the constitution and the servants oath.
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
What do you call a woman who flies a plane?
……………we should all be afraid……………….

A crash and burn victim…
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rfenst wrote:
I think NPR is fine for learning about new subjects in depth whether or not I identify with whatever "slant" a piece might show. But, not all of it is slanted. Not all of it is even political. One can learn from anyone about anything without agreeing or adopting their view.


I liked Click and Clack. Use to be on WBUR here on Saturday mornings followed by "Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me!"
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rfenst wrote:
I think NPR is fine for learning about new subjects in depth whether or not I identify with whatever "slant" a piece might show. But, not all of it is slanted. Not all of it is even political.


Agree with the first part. There is some straight up educational stuff which isn't political.

They shamelessly slant left on the politics.
The social justice silliness was seemingly endless, which turned into politics, making it political.

It's the half truth stuff which the average Joe doesn't pick up on. They are part of the Follow the Science group. Science is based on data. Yet when it comes to things like Asian Hate, they don't provide data on the ethnicities of the people committing the violence. By that omission, the only thing we can know is that it certainly can't be white people. They'd be all over that story for weeks.

Was going to create an NPR\Wisconsin PR bingo game. Instead of numbers, use words or phrases to make up the squares.
-Racism
-Inequity
-Disenfranchised
-Women
-People of color
-violence against ____
-LGBT+
-Agency
-Advocacy
-I give myself permission
-Women's reproductive health
-Undocumented
-Trump (he wasn't my cup of tea, although he is still the perceived boogie man behind every ill in their eyes).

Someone would have Bingo with 100 minutes.

It use to be commercial free, public radio. Now they have more sponsors that the average 30 minute tv show. I haven't counted them, maybe I should.

I do listen for the educational stuff and Chapter a Day is nice. Also, I get turned onto a new author or book as well.
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
If one is looking at the opposite perspective with hatred, disdain, and animosity, are they not themselves adding to the divide?


CelticBomber wrote:
I suggest we subtract the hate and multiply the good vibes.



Wow, I thought I'd at least get booed for that. He added and divided so I subtracted and multiplied? Genius is never appreciated until it dies.
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Call in "FRANKJ1 SNAKE PLISSKEN" TO RESTORE LAW AND ORDER IN THE NATION ..

New York city is DEVOLVING INTO CHAOS AND LAWLESSNESS as we post ...
Crime is rampant on the subway and in lower Manhattan...
DUECES and gangs are feeling emboldened by less police and no jail time arrests ..
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rfenst wrote:
Had you not mentioned "leftist", then I would have thought you were talking about January 6th.


You know somethin? I don't think they crying BUILD BETTER BACK! on that Jan 6th. Ya, I didn't hear that.

...And I heard the barbarians are inside the gate and have a majority in Congress, got control of the Executive Branch and the corrupt bureacracies because bureaucracies can make corruption more efficient.
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Why did the old man go to the beach?
Because he felt like it.
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Speaking of civil wars...

53% of Republicans believe US headed towards civil war, 44% of young male Democrats approve assassinating a 'politician who is harming our country or democracy': Poll

PAUL SACCA June 02, 2022

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A concerning percentage of Americans believe that the country is on a collision course with a civil war, according to a new poll. The survey also revealed there is an alarming number of Americans who would support carrying out political violence against government leaders.

The Tulchin Research group conducted a survey of 1,500 Americans in April, and the Southern Poverty Law Center published the distressing results on Wednesday.

When asked if "gender ideology has corrupted American culture," there was a stark partisan divide – with 72% of Republicans saying it had damaged the culture versus only 34% of Democrats.

According to the SPLC poll, 44% of young male Democrats and 34% of young male Republicans would approve of assassinating "a politician who is harming our country or democracy." The percentage plummets to 6% of older male Democrats and Republicans.

More...

https://www.theblaze.com/news/civil-war-political-violence-poll


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Mary had a little lamb …
The doctor fainted.
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CelticBomber wrote:
You aren't even trying anymore.


His horse is over there getting crushed by Ukraine.
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Dg west deptford wrote:
Nobody roots for civil war, Mercy!


That's not a true statement.

I don't think at any point in history of civilization has that ever been a true statement.
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CelticBomber wrote:
Wow, I thought I'd at least get booed for that. He added and divided so I subtracted and multiplied? Genius is never appreciated until it dies.

I did miss that at first read through, am ashamed at having to have it spelled out for me, and acknowledge its brilliance.
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
I did miss that at first read through, am ashamed at having to have it spelled out for me, and acknowledge its brilliance.


Pump up his head why don't ya.
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I calls it like I sees it. That sounded dirty though
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Well you read it how I meant it then.
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bgz wrote:
That's not a true statement.

I don't think at any point in history of civilization has that ever been a true statement.


I heard Abe Lincoln rooted for a civil war. Sure enough he did.
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You don't like Honest Abe?
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bgz wrote:
You don't like Honest Abe?


Of course not, he was a lawyer that lied a lot.
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But he freed slaves and stuff.
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bgz wrote:
But he freed slaves and stuff.


He didn't free nothin', not a single one. He even sold the slaves that he inherited from his father-in-law when he died.
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RayR wrote:
He didn't free nothin', not a single one. He even sold the slaves that he inherited from his father-in-law when he died.


You sound mad?

You mad?

I bet you don't pick up pennies on the ground do you?

I bet you never pay with a five.... do you!!!

And Lincoln Logs? Firewood right?
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bgz wrote:
You sound mad?

You mad?


Mad about Lincoln? Not me...the truth will set you free from president cult worship.
I'll tell you who's mad. Nikole Hannah-Jones, the founder of the highly criticized and inaccurate ‘1619 Project’ and who parlayed her NY Times propaganda piece into a job at Howard University as a professor in Race & Journalism dropped a rare truth bomb recently that shook the Lincoln cultists on the left and the right. They're MAD!
She tweeted, “the North did not fight the Civil War to end slavery.” That's right she stabbed the righteous cause myth of the Civil War right in the heart. That's a heresy that would get anyone who made such a claim labeled a “neo-Confederate” by the cultists. And the high priests and their flock are mad as hell out there, I've seen it.

Conservative (not the fake kind like the Straussian/Neocons) historian Brion McClannahan who has been critical of Jones in the past applauds “Neo-Confederate” Nikole Hannah-Jones this one time. Why not? Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

May 26, 2022
by Brion McClanahan

Quote:
Nikole Hannah-Jones is clearly a “neo-Confederate.” Why? Because she had the audacity to claim that the War wasn’t fought to end slavery.

Gasp!

You can almost hear the head of every righteous cause mythologist exploding.

How dare this faux historian/journalist claim that the War was not about slavery. And she not only said it, she TRIPLED DOWN on the assertion, meaning she really believes it.

More...
https://www.brionmcclanahan.com/blog/neo-confederate-nikole-hannah-jones/



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BuckyB93 wrote:
I liked Click and Clack. Use to be on WBUR here on Saturday mornings followed by "Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me!"

I loved it too!
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RayR wrote:
Mad about Lincoln? Not me...the truth...


He mad
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bgz wrote:
He mad


No...you MAD. You gonna rage quit again?
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