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Sentencing Arguments By Ghislaine Maxwell
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Lawyers urge leniency at sentencing for Ghislaine Maxwell


NEW YORK (AP) — Lawyers for British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell told a judge Wednesday that she should face no more than four to five years in prison for her sex trafficking conviction and role in financier Jeffrey Epstein’s decade-long sex abuse of teenage girls.

They said in a Manhattan federal court submission that Maxwell deserves leniency, calling it “a travesty of justice for her to face a sentence that would have been appropriate for Epstein,” who took his own life as he was awaiting a federal sex trafficking trial in New York in 2019.

“Epstein was the mastermind, Epstein was the principal abuser, and Epstein orchestrated the crimes for his personal gratification,” the lawyers wrote. “Indeed, had Ghislaine Maxwell never had the profound misfortune of meeting Jeffrey Epstein over 30 years ago, she would not be here.”

They added in advance of a June 28 sentencing that Maxwell “is not an heiress, villain, or vapid socialite” and hasn’t deserved the “drumbeat of public condemnation calling for her to be locked away for good.”

They said her life has been ruined and she has faced onerous and punitive jail conditions since her July 2, 2020, arrest that should earn a significant downward departure from sentencing guidelines. Probation officials recommended a 20-year sentence, but said her conviction could call for 25 to 30 years.

The lawyers wrote that she now lives in the jail’s general population but had recently been the target of a credible death threat from a fellow female inmate who told at least three others that she had been offered money to murder Maxwell and that she planned to strangle her in her sleep. Still, they added, she has eagerly assisted other female inmates, providing GED tutoring.

Included in their submission were letters from six siblings.

The lawyers said Maxwell had been placed on suicide watch after the verdict and was told by a psychologist that she had opposed it, but the professional opinion was overridden by a directive from Washington, D.C.

The lawyers said leniency was also deserved because she had a “difficult, traumatic childhood with an overbearing, narcissistic, and demanding father” that made her “vulnerable to Epstein.”

Maxwell met Epstein shortly after her father, British newspaper magnate Robert Maxwell, died in 1991 under suspicious circumstances after falling off a yacht named for her and while he faced allegations that he had illegally looted his businesses’ pension funds.

“It is the biggest mistake she made in her life and one that she has not and never will repeat,” they said of their client, who was Epstein’s girlfriend for a time in the 1990s.

They added that she has had two committed, long-term, loving relationships with men who had young children in the 15 years since her relationship with Epstein ended. They cited an eight-year relationship with a Miami lawyer and a 2013 relationship that led to a marriage that they wrote “could not survive the negative impact of this case nor a husband’s association with his dishonored wife.”

The sentencing submission also cast Maxwell as the sole target by prosecutors to fill “Epstein’s empty chair” after his suicide, saying four other women were named as co-conspirators or accomplices of Epstein during a prosecution of him in Florida over a decade ago, but charges were not pursued against any of them.

Prosecutors declined comment through a spokesperson. They will submit their own written arguments in advance of sentencing.

In its final report, the probation department recommended the 20-year prison term, which would be a slight downward departure from what sentencing guidelines would otherwise call for, Maxwell’s lawyers said.

The Oxford-educated Maxwell, 60, who holds U.S., British and French citizenships, was convicted in December of recruiting teenage girls for Epstein to sexually abuse from 1994 to 2004.

In April, U.S. District Judge Alison J. Nathan upheld Maxwell’s jury conviction, saying it was “readily supported” by extensive witness testimony and documentary evidence at a month-long trial.

Earlier this year, Nathan refused to toss out Maxwell’s conviction on the grounds that a juror during deliberations told other jurors he had been sexually abused as a child even though he had not revealed it in response to questions about prior sex abuse in a written questionnaire given to prospective jurors.


I have no sympathy for her at all and hope she gets the maximum sentence asked for by the prosecutors.
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How the heck is she still alive?
rfenst Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
How the heck is she still alive?

Not for very long. I hope she'll be treated equal to a male pedophile..
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She deserves justice. Leniency would deny justice I think.
RayR Offline
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rfenst wrote:
Not for very long. I hope she'll be treated equal to a male pedophile..


I think that's a veiled wish of yours that she gets murdered like Jeffrey Epstein. Anxious
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Nah, he died too quickly. Cruel and unusual is the way to go here.
RayR Offline
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
Nah, he died too quickly. Cruel and unusual is the way to go here.


So what kind of cruel and unusual punishment do you have in mind SOB?
How about sending her to GITMO, I hear there are prisoners there that haven't seen a woman in a very long time.
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For sex trafficking of children or even being a knowing accomplice?

Rip out all fingernails and toenails.

Carefully peel a few layers of skin from her and bury her up to her neck in salt or hot pepper extract. Whichever you have available. Maybe a paste made of salt and hot pepper extract.

Force her eyelids open Clockwork Orange style, kneel her on a beach, then blow sand in her face with a leaf blower.

Add in the GITMO thing. That's not a bad idea either

IDK. Use your imagination
Mr. Jones Offline
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Let the diiick van dykkke wanna be hitwoman complete the contract ...

Then pay her in cartons of cigarettes and exstacy pills...
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How about the POS not releasing the list gets double her sentence.

Her sentence isn’t going to bring closure for the victims, every dirtbag involved needs to burn.
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RayR wrote:
I think that's a veiled wish of yours that she gets murdered like Jeffrey Epstein. Anxious

Solitary.
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What Z said. Get those fuggers too.
RayR Offline
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
For sex trafficking of children or even being a knowing accomplice?

Rip out all fingernails and toenails.

Carefully peel a few layers of skin from her and bury her up to her neck in salt or hot pepper extract. Whichever you have available. Maybe a paste made of salt and hot pepper extract.

Force her eyelids open Clockwork Orange style, kneel her on a beach, then blow sand in her face with a leaf blower.

Add in the GITMO thing. That's not a bad idea either

IDK. Use your imagination


Wow! Welcome to SOB's worst thing in the world, Room 101.


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WWJCD?
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Probably be passive aggressive and send people private messages.
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JC is very good with the forgiveness thing. I am a bit more Old Testament in my leanings
RayR Offline
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
JC is very good with the forgiveness thing. I am a bit more Old Testament in my leanings


OK, I see you are more into the vengeful monstrous God who occasionally commands genocide and blood sacrifice.
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Simply my personal take on justice for certain crimes, you pretzel twisting smellfungus. Has no bearing on any spiritual beliefs at this point in my journey
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I married my wife for her looks, but not the ones she's giving me lately.
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Feds call for Maxwell to get at least 30 years in prison


Associated Press

NEW YORK — British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell should spend at least 30 years in prison for her role in the sexual abuse of teenage girls over a 10-year period by her onetime boyfriend, financier Jeffrey Epstein, prosecutors said Wednesday in written arguments.

Prosecutors said she should serve between 30 years and 55 years in prison, reflecting the federal sentencing guidelines. They made their recommendations to the judge who will preside over a sentencing hearing on Tuesday in Manhattan federal court.

The 60-year-old Maxwell was convicted in December of sex trafficking and other crimes after a month-long trial that featured testimony from four women who said they were abused in their teens.

Defense lawyers said in a sentencing submission last week that she should spend no more than five years in prison and shouldn't pay for Epstein's crimes, since he was the mastermind and principal abuser and “orchestrated the crimes for his personal gratification." Epstein took his own life in 2019 in jail as he awaited a Manhattan federal sex trafficking trial.

But prosecutors said Maxwell played an “instrumental role in the horrific sexual abuse of multiple young teenage girls" between 1994 and 2004 at some of Epstein's palatial residences. They called her crimes “monstrous."

“As part of a disturbing agreement with Jeffrey Epstein, Maxwell identified, groomed, and abused multiple victims, while she enjoyed a life of extraordinary luxury and privilege. In her wake, Maxwell left her victims permanently scarred with emotional and psychological injuries,” prosecutors wrote.

“That damage can never be undone, but it can be accounted for in crafting a just sentence for Maxwell’s crimes," they added.

Prosecutors also urged the judge to reject Maxwell's pleas for leniency on the grounds that she has suffered in extraordinary ways in jail while awaiting trial and afterward. Defense lawyers said she has faced death threats and harsh conditions that have caused her to lose hair and weight.

Maxwell's appearance at trial proved those claims were wrong, prosecutors said, adding: “The defendant is perfectly healthy, with a full head of hair."

They said Maxwell “has enjoyed remarkable privileges as a high-profile inmate that vastly exceed the benefits accorded to the average inmate. It is unsurprising that a woman who had led a life of incredible luxury should complain about her life as a prisoner, but that fact does not come close to meriting leniency at sentencing, much less the extraordinary degree of leniency the defendant seeks."

Prosecutors also attacked claims by Maxwell's lawyers that she suffered “a credible death threat" in jail, saying that an internal probe of the purported threat revealed that an inmate remarked to someone in passing something to the effect of: “I'd kill her if someone paid me a million dollars." As a result, they said, someone who overheard the remark reported it and the inmate was moved from the housing unit.

They also cited what they described as Maxwell's “complete failure to address her offense conduct and her utter lack of remorse. Instead of showing even a hint of acceptance of responsibility, the defendant makes a desperate attempt to cast blame wherever else she can."

Maxwell's efforts to cast aspersions on the motives of the government for prosecuting her and her claim that she is being held responsible for Epstein’s crimes are “absurd and offensive," prosecutors said.

“Maxwell was an adult who made her own choices. She made the choice to sexually exploit numerous underage girls. She made the choice to conspire with Epstein for years, working as partners in crime and causing devastating harm to vulnerable victims," they said.

Prosecutors said nearly all of the $22.5 million in assets that Maxwell claimed in a bail proposal that was never granted was given to her by Epstein.

“The defendant’s access to wealth enabled her to present herself as a supposedly respectable member of society, who rubbed shoulders with royalty, presidents, and celebrities. That same wealth dazzled the girls from struggling families who became the defendant and Epstein’s victims," prosecutors said.

The sentencing submission also included quotes from letters written to the judge by women who testified during the trial, including Kate, an ex-model from Great Britain who said “the consequences of what Ghislaine Maxwell did have been far reaching for me.”

“I have struggled with, and eventually triumphed over, substance use disorder. I have suffered panic attacks and night terrors, with which I still struggle. I have suffered low self esteem, loss of career opportunities. I have battled greatly with feeling unable to trust my own instincts, in choosing romantic relationships,” she wrote.

Maxwell defense: She was a victim too. LOL! Roast her a$$!!!
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I think Roast her a$$!!! qualifies as cruel and unusual punishment.
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Maxwell sentenced to 20 years in prison for helping Epstein




Associated Press

NEW YORK — Ghislaine Maxwell, the jet-setting socialite who once consorted with royals, presidents and billionaires, was sentenced to 20 years in prison Tuesday for helping the financier Jeffrey Epstein sexually abuse underage girls.

The stiff sentence was the punctuation mark on a trial that explored the sordid rituals of a predator power couple who courted the rich and famous as they lured vulnerable girls as young as 14, and then exploited them.

Prosecutors said Epstein, who killed himself in 2019 while awaiting trial, sexually abused children hundreds of times over more than a decade, and couldn’t have done so without the help of Maxwell, his longtime companion and onetime girlfriend who they said sometimes also participated in the abuse. In December, a jury convicted Maxwell of sex trafficking, transporting a minor to participate in illegal sex acts and two conspiracy charges.

U.S. District Judge Alison J. Nathan, who also imposed a $750,000 fine, said “a very significant sentence is necessary” and that she wanted to send an “unmistakable message” that these kinds of crimes would be punished. Prosecutors had asked the judge to give her 30 to 55 years in prison, while the 60-year-old Maxwell's defense sought a lenient sentence of just five years.

Maxwell, wearing a blue prison uniform and a white mask to conform with coronavirus rules, looked to one side as the sentence was announced, but otherwise did not react.

“We will continue to live with the harm she caused us,” said Annie Farmer, one of the four accusers who testified against Maxwell at trial, inside the courtroom before the sentencing.

When she had a chance to speak, Maxwell said she empathized with the survivors and that it was her “greatest regret of my life that I ever met Jeffrey Epstein.” Maxwell called him “a manipulative, cunning and controlling man who lived a profoundly compartmentalized life,” echoing her defense attorneys' assertions that Epstein was the true mastermind.
Maxwell, who denies abusing anyone, said she hoped that her conviction and her “unusual incarceration” bring some “measure of peace and finality.”

Nathan refused to let Maxwell escape culpability, making clear that Maxwell was being punished for her own actions, not Epstein's. She called the crimes “heinous and predatory” and said Maxwell as a sophisticated adult woman provided the veneer of safety as she “normalized” sexual abuse through her involvement, encouragement and instruction.
Several survivors described their sexual abuse, including Farmer, who said her sister and herself tried to go public with their stories about Epstein and Maxwell two decades ago, only to be shut down by the powerful couple through threats and influence with authorities.

Inside the crowded courtroom, three of Maxwell's siblings sat in a row behind her. Most of the others in attendance were members of the media.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Alison Moe recounted how Maxwell subjected girls to “horrifying nightmares” by taking them to Epstein.

“They were partners in crime together and they molested these kids together,” she said, calling Maxwell “a person who was indifferent to the suffering of other human beings.”

Epstein and Maxwell’s associations with some of the world’s most famous people were not a prominent part of the trial, but mentions of friends like Bill Clinton, Donald Trump and Britain's Prince Andrew showed how the pair exploited their connections to impress their prey.

Over the past 17 years, scores of women have accused Epstein of abuse them, with many describing Maxwell as the madam who recruited them. The trial, though, revolved around allegations from only a handful of those women.
Four testified that they were abused as teens in the 1990s and early 2000s at Epstein’s mansions in Florida, New York, New Mexico and the Virgin Islands.

Three were identified in court only by their first names or pseudonyms to protect their privacy: Jane, a television actress; Kate, an ex-model from the U.K.; and Carolyn, now a mom recovering from drug addiction. The fourth was Farmer, the sole accuser to identify herself in court by her real name, after speaking out publicly.

They described how Maxwell charmed them with conversation and gifts and promises that Epstein could use his wealth and connections to help fulfill their dreams.

Then, they testified, she led them to give massages to Epstein that turned sexual and played it off as normal.
Carolyn testified that she was one of several underprivileged teens who lived near Epstein’s Florida home in the early 2000s and took up an offer to massage him in exchange for $100 bills in what prosecutors described as “a pyramid of abuse.”

Maxwell made all the arrangements, Carolyn told the jury, even though she knew the girl was only 14 at the time.
The allegations against Epstein first surfaced publicly in 2005. He pleaded guilty to sex charges in Florida and served 13 months in jail, much of it in a work-release program as part of a deal criticized as lenient. Afterward, he was required to register as a sex offender.

In the years that followed, many women sued Epstein over alleged abuse. One, Virginia Giuffre, claimed that Epstein and Maxwell had also pressured her into sexual trysts with other powerful men, including Prince Andrew. All of those men denied the allegations and Giuffre ultimately settled a lawsuit against Andrew out of court.

Federal prosecutors in New York revived the case against Epstein after stories by the Miami Herald in 2018 brought new attention to his crimes. He was arrested in 2019, but killed himself a month later.

Eleven months after his death, Maxwell was arrested at a New Hampshire estate. A U.S., British and French citizen, she has remained in a federal jail in New York City since then as her lawyers repeatedly criticize her treatment, saying she was even unjustly placed under suicide watch days before sentencing. Prosecutors say the claims about the jail are exaggerated and that Maxwell has been treated better than other prisoners.

Her lawyers also fought to have her conviction tossed on the grounds of juror misconduct. Days after the verdict, one juror gave media interviews in which he disclosed he had been sexually abused as a child — something he hadn't told the court during jury selection. Maxwell's lawyers said she deserved a new trial. A judge disagreed.

At least eight women submitted letters to the judge, describing the sexual abuse they said they endured for having met Maxwell and Epstein. Six of Maxwell’s seven living siblings wrote to plead for leniency. Maxwell's fellow inmate also submitted a letter describing how Maxwell has helped to educate other inmates over the last two years.

Anne Holve and Philip Maxwell, her eldest siblings, wrote that her relationship with Epstein began soon after the 1991 death of their father, the British newspaper magnate Robert Maxwell.

They said Robert Maxwell had subjected his daughter to “frequent rapid mood swings, huge rages and rejections.”
“This led her to becoming very vulnerable to abusive and powerful men who would be able to take advantage of her innate good nature,” they wrote.

Before her fate was announced, Maxwell looked down and scribbled on a notepad as Sarah Ransome — an accuser whose allegations weren’t included in this trial — spoke of the lasting harm to her life, gazing directly at Maxwell several times .
Ransome, who twice tried to die by suicide, finally drew a look from Maxwell when she said: “You broke me in unfathomable ways but you did not break my spirit.”
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Release THE List!

https://trusttheq.com/why-was-ghislaine-maxwell-doing-fundraisers-for-disney-in-1985/
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T-shirt is actually short for tyrannosaurus shirt. It's because of the small arms.
Speyside2 Offline
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DOC, are you simply using Qanon as a resource, or are you part of Qanon?
RayR Offline
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Does the source matter to you more than the truthfulness of the content?

If you are going to run a high-priced pedo ring for upscale clients, you need to go where the merchandise is, so you say, "I'M GOING TO DISNEYWORLD!"
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I wasn't talking to you mini Lew. I was asking DOC directly. Also reread what I said, I was not questioning the source. I asked a curiosity question. You, simply need to take a moment to better comprehend was I posted.
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Speyside2 wrote:
I wasn't talking to you mini Lew. I was asking DOC directly. Also reread what I said, I was not questioning the source. I asked a curiosity question. You, simply need to take a moment to better comprehend was I posted.


You sneaky lyin' Spey you! Curiosity my azz! You were tryin' to insinuate that DOC was Qanon because he posted something from a Q website.
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Speyside2 wrote:
DOC, are you simply using Qanon as a resource, or are you part of Qanon?


Neither.

I spotted the Maxwell/Disney pics on FB...all I did was use the g00gl3 and found the multiple pics in one spot.

Maxwell and Disney grooming kids...weird.
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Release the list
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Release the list


They’ve got top men looking into it.
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she did better than R Kelly?
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With what? Under age girls or peeing on them?
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sentencing?
DrMaddVibe Offline
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Don't really need a proposition when he whips out his d!ck and starts peeing.

Jus sayin...werd
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20 yrs for the billionaires daughter...

R.Kelly gets 30 yrs?


Hmmmmmmmm mm?????
Mr. Jones Offline
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#29 Disney grooming kids....

Just watch the CW CHANNEL ON T.V.

YOU WANNA TALK GROOMING KIDS?

THEY MAKE DISNEY LOOK LIKE SOUTHERN BAPTISTS
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Got it, thanks.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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Sure?

Maybe a slice of Dave's Killer Bread would make it feel better?
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Honestly I simply was curious. No more no less.
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My wife is so negative. I remembered the car seat, the stroller, AND the diaper bag. Yet all she can talk about is how I forgot the baby.
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