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Roe versus Wade Overturned!
RayR Offline
#201 Posted:
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CelticBomber wrote:
Nah, I'm used to you. You're like an old comfortable pair of underwear. I know where you're going to support me and where you're going to let me down. You are no longer the new hot chick everyone wants. Mellow


Now I feel unwanted, used, and then tossed out. Sad

BTW...what kind of underwear? Boxers or Briefs? 🩲
No panties though, I heard some people around here are like that.

HockeyDad Offline
#202 Posted:
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RayR wrote:
Now I feel unwanted, used, and then tossed out. Sad


Sounds like a condom. (Which would solve Row vs Wade criticality!)
Sunoverbeach Offline
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Well it would solve 98.2% of it anyway
Dg west deptford Offline
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BuckyB93 wrote:
Let's keep in mind that the decision DID NOT OUTLAW abortions. Just said the Federal government, per the Constitution, overstepped it's bounds and it's a State issue not a Federal issue.

My personal thoughts is it should be left up to the individual to decide for themselves based on their individual situation. The government should not have any part in that decision and be 100% neutral.

Another thing to add to this sticky wicket: It takes a male and a female to put the parts together to make a baby. Should the male have any input on whether the baby can be aborted or is it 100% the female's choice? I realize that the female has 100% responsibility during the gestation period, but where does the male's rights to the baby enter into the equation?

What if the male wants to and has the means to raise and take care of the kid even if the female doesn't want any part of it. I guess this comes down to a surrogate mother type of thing. This would open a new can of worm as I believe that you can't force the mother to go through with the pregnancy and child birth against her will. But shouldn't the father's wishes enter into the equation to some degree?

I don't have an answer to that.



Don't you?

Lev.20:4 ‘If the people of the land, however, should ever disregard that man when he gives any of his offspring to Molech, so as not to put him to death, .....
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frankj1 wrote:
I have similar struggles.


You're arms are too short to box with God like the rest of us

Let's stick in the conscience of this struggle
And quit ye like men

Brewha Offline
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Again, I would like to thank God for making me an Agnostic….
Sunoverbeach Offline
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Wasn't the old testament retribution superseded by the blood sacrifice of the Son of God?




And on a blasphemous note, would said sacrifice not imply God's approval of abortion up to the 135th trimester?
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There is mercy with God that he may be feared

Not so we can blaspheme, as you know,

But so we can glorify Him & enjoy Him forever.

The woman caught in adultery to be stoned was brought before the man without failure to test him.
Would he be too far right or too far left?

He said "let the man without failure cast the 1st"

He then knelt & drew in the sand while everyone split

"Woman" He said, "where are your accusers?"

They split, she said

"Neither do I condemn you," He said.
"Go & sin no more"

The only question is what was He drawing in the sand that made us one by one drop our stones & split.

Personally, I identify with the adulterer more than the accusers
But I've been both

Thanks for listening. I'll stop now
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ZRX1200 wrote:
And just like his underwear, he doesn’t wash you.

you are in the midst of one of your funniest streaks
bgz Offline
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Dg west deptford wrote:
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Don't you?

Lev.20:4 ‘If the people of the land, however, should ever disregard that man when he gives any of his offspring to Molech, so as not to put him to death, .....


You and Ray talk about this being "Molech" as if it's sentient and real...

Are you two polytheists?
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bgz wrote:
You and Ray talk about this being "Molech" as if it's sentient and real...

Are you two polytheists?

Gary North...
Sunoverbeach Offline
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If God is your co-pilot - swap seats.
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Why didn't the green pepper shoot his bow..??

Cause he didn't habanero... Mellow
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DrafterX wrote:
Why didn't the green pepper shoot his bow..??

Cause he didn't habanero... Mellow

William!!!
Nice!
Sunoverbeach Offline
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That's a gud'un, X!
frankj1 Offline
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
That's a gud'un, X!

MCFA!
borndead1 Offline
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I see that nobody has given me a REAL answer to my question. So I'll bump it up a notch.

Laws have to be ENFORCED.

What would enforcement of a total abortion ban (abortion treated as murder or manslaughter) look like?

What level of enforcement would *YOU* be comfortable with?

It's easy to support laws/policies that don't affect you. Both liberals and conservatives are guilty of this. But the bottom line is this: every law is essentially enforced at gunpoint and/or threat of imprisonment. Read that last sentence again and really think about it.

So I'll get REALLY specific here: would you be OK with YOUR daughter...sister...cousin...aunt...niece...friend...wife being hauled away in handcuffs, at gunpoint, and sent to prison for the rest of her life for getting an abortion? Because that's what abortion treated as murder would be. Let's focus on that for a minute. If your wife...daughter...sister got pregnant, decided that she couldn't or didn't want to have another child, had an abortion, or couldn't *legally prove* that she had a miscarriage, and went to prison for 10 years...20 years...LIFE...would you visit her in prison? What would you say to her?

What COULD you say to her?
RayR Offline
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bgz wrote:
You and Ray talk about this being "Molech" as if it's sentient and real...

Are you two polytheists?


Franks people, the ancient wigless monkeys who wrote the Old Testament talked about the Canaanite deity, the God who demanded child sacrifice. I'm suggesting the Canaanite religion is still alive and well in the form of the left lizard people.

bgz Offline
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RayR wrote:
Franks people, the ancient wigless monkeys who wrote the Old Testament talked about the Canaanite deity, the God who demanded child sacrifice. I'm suggesting the Canaanite religion is still alive and well in the form of the left lizard people.



Wow... Canaanites were polytheists. You're making them sound as if they are competitors to modern theology...

They might be able to compete with Marvel...

Captain Liberty and the Midnight Baal or some sh*t...

But nobody is praying to any Canaanite gods anymore unless you're praying to the Canaanite deity of metallurgy Yahweh...

RayR Offline
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bgz wrote:
Wow... Canaanites were polytheists. You're making them sound as if they are competitors to modern theology...

They might be able to compete with Marvel...

Captain Liberty and the Midnight Baal or some sh*t...

But nobody is praying to any Canaanite gods anymore unless you're praying to the Canaanite deity of metallurgy Yahweh...



Don't be fooled that the Gods of old are no more.

I don't know if the Canaanites were polytheists exactly, but there are some stark similarities between primitive civilizations of olden times to the Progressives, who are really pagans that worship Molech, and various all-powerful government deities. That is until one of those deities like the Supreme Court turns on them and now they want to viciously tear down that God and replace it with a more terrible God who will satisfy their thirst for more violence and bloodlust.

Marvel, like other corporations gone woke tries to cash in by mollifying and amusing them with ghey and trans superhero characters and maybe offering them funding and transportation for out-of-state child sacrifice.

I heard even the U.S. Navy has upped their game, releasing a new training video that teaches recruits how to create a “safe space for everybody” by using “inclusive language,” like saying “hey everybody” instead of the common misogynist-sounding phrase “hey guys” which also doesn't include recognition for all the numerous other sexes of progressive science.

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2022/06/video-here-is-the-navys-gender-pronoun-video-for-safe-spaces/

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borndead1 wrote:
I see that nobody has given me a REAL answer to my question. So I'll bump it up a notch.

Laws have to be ENFORCED.

What would enforcement of a total abortion ban (abortion treated as murder or manslaughter) look like?

What level of enforcement would *YOU* be comfortable with?

It's easy to support laws/policies that don't affect you. Both liberals and conservatives are guilty of this. But the bottom line is this: every law is essentially enforced at gunpoint and/or threat of imprisonment. Read that last sentence again and really think about it.

So I'll get REALLY specific here: would you be OK with YOUR daughter...sister...cousin...aunt...niece...friend...wife being hauled away in handcuffs, at gunpoint, and sent to prison for the rest of her life for getting an abortion? Because that's what abortion treated as murder would be. Let's focus on that for a minute. If your wife...daughter...sister got pregnant, decided that she couldn't or didn't want to have another child, had an abortion, or couldn't *legally prove* that she had a miscarriage, and went to prison for 10 years...20 years...LIFE...would you visit her in prison? What would you say to her?

What COULD you say to her?

Psssst……the abortion is murder idea is just a cover story to sell it to the dim bulbs. This is about keeping women in their place. The conservatives honestly thinks women should not have rights to their bodies - they are kinda like….community property.
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Brewha wrote:
Psssst……the abortion is murder idea is just a cover story to sell it to the dim bulbs. This is about keeping women in their place. The conservatives honestly thinks women should not have rights to their bodies - they are kinda like….community property.


That’s all a fine and good story but to have a successful abortion a human life form has to die. If it is in the first 3 months you can kill it with chemicals. Once it’s further along than that it has to be killed and birthed or killed and dismantled.
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HockeyDad wrote:
That’s all a fine and good story but to have a successful abortion a human life form has to die. If it is in the first 3 months you can kill it with chemicals. Once it’s further along than that it has to be killed and birthed or killed and dismantled.

And all those unfertilzed eggs - Murder!!

Miscarriages - Manslaughter!!

A human life 9 months to be created - in the first 3, it is just wishful thinking.

Besides, this is really about keeping women in their place. After conception, their wombs become community property - who are they to claim rights over it?
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Brewha wrote:
And all those unfertilzed eggs - Murder!!

Miscarriages - Manslaughter!!

A human life 9 months to be created - in the first 3, it is just wishful thinking.

Besides, this is really about keeping women in their place. After conception, their wombs become community property - who are they to claim rights over it?



That’s all a fine and good story but to have a successful abortion a human life form has to die. If it is in the first 3 months you can kill it with chemicals. Once it’s further along than that it has to be killed and birthed or killed and dismantled.
bgz Offline
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RayR wrote:
Don't be fooled that the Gods of old are no more.

I don't know if the Canaanites were polytheists exactly...


Then why did you keep typing after that?
bgz Offline
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Brewha wrote:
And all those unfertilzed eggs - Murder!!

Miscarriages - Manslaughter!!

A human life 9 months to be created - in the first 3, it is just wishful thinking.

Besides, this is really about keeping women in their place. After conception, their wombs become community property - who are they to claim rights over it?


Male sperm donations

All eggs must be fertilized

No egg left behind

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HockeyDad wrote:
That’s all a fine and good story but to have a successful abortion a human life form has to die. If it is in the first 3 months you can kill it with chemicals. Once it’s further along than that it has to be killed and birthed or killed and dismantled.

So what?
Brewha Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
That’s all a fine and good story but to have a successful abortion a human life form has to die. If it is in the first 3 months you can kill it with chemicals. Once it’s further along than that it has to be killed and birthed or killed and dismantled.

Murder he wrote….

Misogyny it is.
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rfenst wrote:
So what?


Does it not sound so fun?
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RayR wrote:
Franks people, the ancient wigless monkeys who wrote the Old Testament talked about the Canaanite deity, the God who demanded child sacrifice. I'm suggesting the Canaanite religion is still alive and well in the form of the left lizard people.


burnt offerings?
stop lying about your Biblical knowledge.
Don't take Gary North's cliff notes for the Gospel (polyreligious phrase!!!)

Oh, btw, you're leaking badly, again.
RayR Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
burnt offerings?
stop lying about your Biblical knowledge.
Don't take Gary North's cliff notes for the Gospel (polyreligious phrase!!!)

Oh, btw, you're leaking badly, again.


Blasphemy! Your ancient Israelites lived next door to the Canaanites and their slew of blood-thirsty deities.
Didn't Yahwe command that your people shall not give any of your children and offer them to Molech?

So you continue to attack the memory of Gary North, a Christian man.
Incidentally, Gary did write an article in 2012 titled, The Moloch State
You probably won't like it. Moloch is the state, the state is Moloch! It demands sacrifice! BigGrin

"The defenders of the messianic state have been successful for a century in persuading the voters that the state is benign in both its intentions and its policies. They have made the case for a healing state indirectly. They present the case for the state as the provider of tax-funded safety nets. One special-interest group at a time, the politicians and their court prophets, meaning the intelligentsia, have extended the safety nets."

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2012/04/gary-north/the-moloch-state/








Sunoverbeach Offline
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We can't help everyone, but everyone can help someone.
HockeyDad Offline
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Spam can’t help anyone.
Sunoverbeach Offline
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Convenient and Shelf-Stable
One of the biggest benefits of Spam is that it’s convenient and easy to prepare when running short on time or with limited ingredients available.

It’s also shelf-stable, which makes it simpler to stock up on compared to perishable protein foods like chicken or beef.

Because Spam is already cooked, it can be eaten straight from the can and requires minimal preparation prior to eating.

It’s also highly versatile and can be added to a wide variety of recipes.

Some of the most popular ways to enjoy Spam include adding it to sliders, sandwiches, pasta dishes and rice.
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HockeyDad wrote:
That’s all a fine and good story but to have a successful abortion a human life form has to die. If it is in the first 3 months you can kill it with chemicals. Once it’s further along than that it has to be killed and birthed or killed and dismantled.


So...no more stem cell research? No in vitro fertilization? No more Plan B (because it might expel a fertilized egg)? Those are human life forms, ya know?

This is the kind of stuff that would have to be decided by judges/courts/legislators if 'life begins at conception' is adopted as law. Is that really what 'small government' conservatives want?

I also noticed that you didn't respond to my big philosophical post.

What would you say to your daughter if she were serving 20+ years in prison for getting an abortion? "Sorry, honey, but you knew it was illegal."
Palama Offline
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
Convenient and Shelf-Stable
One of the biggest benefits of Spam is that it’s convenient and easy to prepare when running short on time or with limited ingredients available.

It’s also shelf-stable, which makes it simpler to stock up on compared to perishable protein foods like chicken or beef.

Because Spam is already cooked, it can be eaten straight from the can and requires minimal preparation prior to eating.

It’s also highly versatile and can be added to a wide variety of recipes.

Some of the most popular ways to enjoy Spam include adding it to sliders, sandwiches, pasta dishes and rice.


Spam Musubi!

https://www.instructables.com/How-To-Make-Spam-Musubi/

My wife has a similar recipe but she uses the small, one Musubi press. She made 10 of them last night and I took 8 of them for our fishing trip.
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RayR wrote:
Blasphemy! Your ancient Israelites lived next door to the Canaanites and their slew of blood-thirsty deities.
Didn't Yahwe command that your people shall not give any of your children and offer them to Molech?

So you continue to attack the memory of Gary North, a Christian man.
Incidentally, Gary did write an article in 2012 titled, The Moloch State
You probably won't like it. Moloch is the state, the state is Moloch! It demands sacrifice! BigGrin

"The defenders of the messianic state have been successful for a century in persuading the voters that the state is benign in both its intentions and its policies. They have made the case for a healing state indirectly. They present the case for the state as the provider of tax-funded safety nets. One special-interest group at a time, the politicians and their court prophets, meaning the intelligentsia, have extended the safety nets."

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2012/04/gary-north/the-moloch-state/









oh yeah, debate Biblical history with you, Adolph?

Lewd Rockwell's History of People We Hate isn't a real textbook.
You are, what the con men would say, under the ether.

Edit:
meant to write "...with you, Adolph, and Gary" but figgered this works too.
When you tout one, you tout them all.
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Mini Lew, when you write about blasphemy, the irony is so thick and dense you cannot cut it with a knife.
RayR Offline
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Here we go! The Bobbsey Twins, servants of the Moloch State are all in a tizzy by intelligent free-thinking. Gary North How Dare You! Frank and Spey curse your grave! The messianic Moloch State demands total sacrifice! Resistance is futile!
Frank is even driven down to the level of insinuating I'm a NAZI! Go fiqure that one?
Other than that...A whole lot of nothing from both of them!
bgz Offline
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Isn't Gary North that guy who wants to kill gay people and blasphemers and such?

Sounds anti-liberty to me... and he has Ray's respect.

Another hypocritical display by RayRay the non-defender of gays...

This man does not believe in liberty folks... if he does, it's only for himself and those that think EXACTLY like him.
RayR Offline
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bgz wrote:
Isn't Gary North that guy who wants to kill gay people and blasphemers and such?

Sounds anti-liberty to me... and he has Ray's respect.

Another hypocritical display by RayRay the non-defender of gays...

This man does not believe in liberty folks... if he does, it's only for himself and those that think EXACTLY like him.


How Dare You! All you servants of the Moloch State spread lies!

bgz Offline
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RayR wrote:
How Dare You! All you servants of the Moloch State spread lies!



That's not this guy?

https://medium.com/the-radical-center/the-man-who-wants-to-kill-gays-397d4acfa30e

Top result with a shortish link: Gary North death penalty

Pretty sure that's this guy.

So he doesn't want to kill gays then?

I mean, that's all I really know about the guy... is he wants to kill gays.

Kinda like all I know Sinbad for is that stupid Genie movie... except this guy really wants to kill gays.
bgz Offline
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Oh yeah, I've determined Ray is a polytheist... a barbarian...

Ray is a Pagan!!!
RayR Offline
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bgz wrote:
That's not this guy?

https://medium.com/the-radical-center/the-man-who-wants-to-kill-gays-397d4acfa30e

Top result with a shortish link: Gary North death penalty

Pretty sure that's this guy.

So he doesn't want to kill gays then?

I mean, that's all I really know about the guy... is he wants to kill gays.

Kinda like all I know Sinbad for is that stupid Genie movie... except this guy really wants to kill gays.


I see you source your information for the same lyin' commie sources as Frank.
James Peron is a LGBQ++XYZ/2 propagandist that hates Christians. Jews too since he mentioned Rothbard.
So listen to him twist your little monkey brain and tell you what to think about a decent Christian man like Gary North, but don't you dare read https://www.garynorth.com/
Speyside2 Offline
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I was speak of you mini Lew, you and you alone.
rfenst Offline
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RayR wrote:
Here we go! The Bobbsey Twins, servants of the Moloch State are all in a tizzy by intelligent free-thinking. Gary North How Dare You! Frank and Spey curse your grave! The messianic Moloch State demands total sacrifice! Resistance is futile!
Frank is even driven down to the level of insinuating I'm a NAZI! Go fiqure that one?

While Frank provided no proof in his post, I'd bet real money he's right.
RayR Offline
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rfenst wrote:
While Frank provided no proof in his post, I'd bet real money he's right.


Ah, so Frank's hearsay is good enough for you...eh counselor? Eh?


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More so than your "factual" rants, ya cockalorum
bgz Offline
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RayR wrote:
I see you source your information for the same lyin' commie sources as Frank.
James Peron is a LGBQ++XYZ/2 propagandist that hates Christians. Jews too since he mentioned Rothbard.
So listen to him twist your little money brain and tell you what to think about a decent Christian man like Gary North, but don't you dare read https://www.garynorth.com/


I didn't actually read the article, I just posted one of the top results for the search term.

I guess that can be blamed on evil Google for spreading lies and misinformation though...

Doing the bidding of mainstream media...

All these people out to get poor Gary!!!

Anyway, the whole page looked pretty much like that... so... I was curious, so I looked at the site.

All his stuff on alphabetical issues are paywalled (I'm guessing you're a subscriber).

He obviously hates people too, so I can see why you like him.

Why do you like to discriminate so much and claim you are for liberty?

Those two concepts are incompatible.
RayR Offline
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Ah! So your little monkey brain convinced you that you should actually read the commie drivel you Googled.
That's not like you Ben. Are you sober?

Oh and SOB, you also...your desire to believe outweighing the facts and evidence is not a good look. Frying pan

I forgot...somebody tell Spey to take his MEDS.
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