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frankj1 Offline
#51 Posted: Fri, Jul 8 2022, 9:42 PM EST
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RayR wrote:
That's kind of a silly question, think about it. "Anarchism and "country"?
But regardless, like libertarianism, it already exists everywhere state power doesn’t.

"The answer is that every country has tried it and every country practices it to one extent or another. This is the reason we experience progress, enjoy wealth, and have access to things like longer lives, food to eat, cities, smartphones, financial markets, useful websites, shoes, clothes, and the like. It’s why we can mostly say what we want, fall in love and act on that, and do what we want in a general way provided we don’t hurt others. These conditions all flow from human volition using private property (including property in ourselves) that is exercised whenever and wherever it is permitted by the authorities. Government doesn’t create anything. It just takes stuff, overrides our preferences, and threatens us if we fail to comply. It has the same relationship to human liberty that a tick has to a dog. Just because ticks exist doesn’t mean that dogs aren’t real or are some untried experiment. Similarly, just because theft and murder exist doesn’t mean that we should not rather have a world in which they did not." - Jeffrey Tucker

So that's why you think you can't find love?

Madoff can't wait to meet you.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#52 Posted: Fri, Jul 8 2022, 10:19 PM EST
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The adjective for metal is metallic, but not so for iron which is ironic.
RayR Offline
#53 Posted: Sat, Jul 9 2022, 10:51 AM EST
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Speyside2 wrote:
So call it whatever you want. You just said there are no regions in the world where anarchy has thrived at any point in time, yet alone for an extended period of time.

Now prove me wrong with statistics, facts, something tangible. If you go into your typical rambling rant with no factual basis you have proven yourself wrong.


Think of it this way country boy. What is your country? Where are your principal loyalties? For BGZ I think it's his HUT where he probably smokin' wacky tobacky in his peace pipe right now.
In the statist mindset, "country" is synonymous with "nation" or something defined by some regional government authority claiming to be the rulers.
I keep being reminded of Mark Twain's famous quip, "Loyalty to Country Always. Loyalty to Government Only When It Deserves." He was obviously thinking outside the statist mindset, saying that country and government are two different things, one that has his natural loyalty always and the other where loyalty is determined by its behavior. Is it a friend to liberty or an oppressor?
So what is YOUR country, how far out does it extend from you? Is it your home and family? Your backyard? Your street? Your neighborhood? Your village, town, or city? Your county? Your state? Your centralized Leviathan nation?
I betcha the closer to home it is, the more governmentless it is and the more things operate in a peaceful voluntary way without the coercion of thieves and dicktators.
Brewha Offline
#54 Posted: Sat, Jul 9 2022, 11:00 AM EST
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
The adjective for metal is metallic, but not so for iron which is ironic.

So progress and congress???
Speyside2 Offline
#55 Posted: Sat, Jul 9 2022, 12:32 PM EST
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No, you are gas lighting again, I took out the word country. I substituted the word region which in this case implies no country. So answer the question I asked. Otherwise you have no substance. To remind you my question is this. Has there ever been a region where anarchy has thrived at any point in time, yet alone for an extended period of time?
RayR Offline
#56 Posted: Sat, Jul 9 2022, 2:01 PM EST
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You still don't define what "country" or "region" is.
I tried to give you a clue but you insist on not having a clue.
You can't handle the paradigm shift that is needed to break your statist conditioning.
bgz Offline
#57 Posted: Sat, Jul 9 2022, 2:05 PM EST
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RayR wrote:
You still don't define what "country" or "region" is.
I tried to give you a clue but you insist on not having a clue.
You can't handle the paradigm shift that is needed to break your statist conditioning.


If all a man does is give you clues, but never answers, how do you know he's not running you around in a circle?
Speyside2 Offline
#58 Posted: Sat, Jul 9 2022, 2:10 PM EST
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Active communities:

Stapleton Colony (1921–present)[46]
Federation of Egalitarian Communities (1967–present)
Twin Oaks Community, Virginia (1967–present)[47]
ZAD de Notre-Dame-des-Landes (1967–present)
Black Bear Ranch (1968–present)
Longo Mai (1973–present)[48]
The Farm (1973–present)
East Wind Community (1973–present)[citation needed]
Awra Amba (1980–present)[49]
Kommune Niederkaufungen (1986–present)
Acorn Community (1993–present)[50]
Trumbullplex (1993–present)[1]
Tenacious Unicorn Ranch (2018–present)
Friland [da] (2002–present) [51][52]
Past communities:

The Diggers (1649-1650)
Utopia (1847-1875)[53]
Modern Times (21 March 1851–1864)[54]
Cecília Colony (1890–1893)
New Australia (28 September 1893–1905)[55]
Home (1895)[56]
Equality Colony (1897–1907)[56]
Whiteway Colony[57] (1898)[58]
Life and Labor Commune (1921)[59]
Drop City (1965)
Poole's Land (1988-2020)

Here is a list of communities that I know of. I will also post a definition of region since you do not know what a region is.
Speyside2 Offline
#59 Posted: Sat, Jul 9 2022, 2:14 PM EST
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re·gion
/ˈrējən/
Learn to pronounce
noun
an area or division, especially part of a country or the world having definable characteristics but not always fixed boundaries.
"one of the region's major employers"
an administrative district of a city or country.

My point is this anarchy rule only works on a small scale. While in theory it is great, sadly in reality it can be utilized only on an extraordinarily small basis.

Now is there any other thinking you need done which should include a factual basis?
Speyside2 Offline
#60 Posted: Sat, Jul 9 2022, 2:16 PM EST
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There are a couple of recent attempts at anarchy. Seattle and Portland. In your opinion how well did they work out?
tailgater Offline
#61 Posted: Sat, Jul 9 2022, 3:19 PM EST
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Speyside2 wrote:
re·gion
/ˈrējən/
Learn to pronounce
noun
an area or division, especially part of a country or the world having definable characteristics but not always fixed boundaries.
"one of the region's major employers"
an administrative district of a city or country.

My point is this anarchy rule only works on a small scale. While in theory it is great, sadly in reality it can be utilized only on an extraordinarily small basis.

Now is there any other thinking you need done which should include a factual basis?


You left out "nether", as in: Speyside's nether regions get all moist when he quotes google for answers."

Herfing
RayR Offline
#62 Posted: Sat, Jul 9 2022, 3:42 PM EST
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Speyside2 wrote:
There are a couple of recent attempts at anarchy. Seattle and Portland. In your opinion how well did they work out?


Shame on you
Another lame attempt at trolling.
Those clowns were not anarchists, those were commies emulating a progressive government of their dreams, robbing, destroying property, even killing! The farthest thing from anarchy you can get.

Speyside2 wrote:
My point is this anarchy rule only works on a small scale. While in theory it is great, sadly in reality it can be utilized only on an extraordinarily small basis.


Geez...it's like you almost git it what I was saying in #53.
Speyside2 Offline
#63 Posted: Sat, Jul 9 2022, 3:47 PM EST
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You keep redefining anarchist, make up your mind already. Now refer to the other post of mine you are dodging. I even did the research for you.

Oh , BTW, that hill in Seattle fits perfectly in as an anarchistic community. Wake up.
RayR Offline
#64 Posted: Sat, Jul 9 2022, 4:27 PM EST
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Speyside2 wrote:
You keep redefining anarchist, make up your mind already. Now refer to the other post of mine you are dodging. I even did the research for you.

Oh , BTW, that hill in Seattle fits perfectly in as an anarchistic community. Wake up.


I did not redefine it. It's statists that redefine it to mean something it isn't and you just drink up the Kool-aid. You go ahead and believe anything some fool reporter told you in the news.

The term anarchism is derived from the negation of the Greek term arché, which means ruling power. Anarchy is suspicious of all political power and regards most governments as inherently corrupt and illegitimate. Go ahead and try to prove that isn't true. As Thomas Paine wrote, "Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one."

As libertarian-anarchist Gerard Casey wrote, “states are criminal organizations. All states, not just the obviously totalitarian or repressive ones”

https://mises.org/profile/gerard-n-casey
bgz Offline
#65 Posted: Sat, Jul 9 2022, 5:05 PM EST
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RayR wrote:
I did not redefine it. It's statists that redefine it to mean something it isn't and you just drink up the Kool-aid. You go ahead and believe anything some fool reporter told you in the news.


Rule #6 => Rule #4

RayR wrote:

The term anarchism is derived from the negation of the Greek term arché, which means ruling power. Anarchy is suspicious of all political power and regards most governments as inherently corrupt and illegitimate. Go ahead and try to prove that isn't true. As Thomas Paine wrote, "Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one."

As libertarian-anarchist Gerard Casey wrote, “states are criminal organizations. All states, not just the obviously totalitarian or repressive ones”

https://mises.org/profile/gerard-n-casey


Amendment #12, post sus links and blame everything on the left... oh, that's just a subset of Rule #4 => Rule #5

Clever... Assign an arbitrary meaning (doesn't matter whether he's actually right or not)...

Then goes on to say:: Prove that isn't true...

Then goes back on as everything he just said is somehow related to next term on governments and evil and what ever the hell point he was trying to make on the first...

All just to send us to a "misses" link... wtf?

You're the seo guy for all those sh*tty sites ain't you?
Speyside2 Offline
#66 Posted: Sat, Jul 9 2022, 5:17 PM EST
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Yet you will not answer my question and keep deflecting. I gave you proof that anarchistic communities. Yet you will not answer my question and keep deflecting. Anarchism will never work on a large scale unfortunately. Because there will always be a bad guy. Sometimes really big and really bad.

Thomas Payne has always been right.

The word liberal is revisionist history. It really means patriot if you take it back far enough. If you look deep enough into the constitution you may find you understand it as opposed to thinking you understand how to interpret it. Originalists are wrong, revisionists are wrong. Be a constitutionalist. If it needs a change, do it by law. That is very hard, it is supposed to be. The values in it are immutable, those founding fathers wrote an amazing document. We have been weakening it for a long time.

Yeah, just my dumb opinion and thoughts. Z will be along shortly to tell you it is all about me.
RayR Offline
#67 Posted: Sat, Jul 9 2022, 5:50 PM EST
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I already told you "it already exists everywhere state power doesn’t."
I even gave you the clues in #53 so you might find it.

And you give the BS about it can't happen because there "will always be a bad guy" It's as if people can't band together to get rid of a bad guy? Well, I can tell you where you will always find a bad guy...he is an apparatchik of the state, a crook pretending he is indispensable because he's protecting you from bad guys.
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#68 Posted: Sun, Jul 10 2022, 11:34 AM EST
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I threw a ball for my dog... It's a bit extravagant I know, but it was his birthday and he looks great in a dinner jacket.
frankj1 Offline
#69 Posted: Sun, Jul 10 2022, 6:44 PM EST
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RayR wrote:
I already told you "it already exists everywhere state power doesn’t."
I even gave you the clues in #53 so you might find it.

And you give the BS about it can't happen because there "will always be a bad guy" It's as if people can't band together to get rid of a bad guy? Well, I can tell you where you will always find a bad guy...he is an apparatchik of the state, a crook pretending he is indispensable because he's protecting you from bad guys.




there's a name for that...vigilantism.

So you're strong man just won't be elected if there's no duhmocracy.
That doesn't work for me, prolly won't work for just about any American.

I think that about wraps it up.
HockeyDad Offline
#70 Posted: Sun, Jul 10 2022, 7:17 PM EST
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Doesn’t seem very wrapped up.
Speyside2 Offline
#71 Posted: Sun, Jul 10 2022, 7:20 PM EST
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I doubt there is a single American who particularly likes our government. That is not the point of the 4th of July. We celebrate our independence. We celebrate America. We celebrate that we are Americans. The 4th of July is not a celebration of government.
HockeyDad Offline
#72 Posted: Sun, Jul 10 2022, 7:26 PM EST
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Speyside2 wrote:
I doubt there is a single American who particularly likes our government. That is not the point of the 4th of July. We celebrate our independence. We celebrate America. We celebrate that we are Americans. The 4th of July is not a celebration of government.


I heard it wasn’t worth celebrating because people couldn’t abort anymore.
Speyside2 Offline
#73 Posted: Sun, Jul 10 2022, 7:33 PM EST
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It's all good. NASA can abort.
HockeyDad Offline
#74 Posted: Sun, Jul 10 2022, 8:12 PM EST
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Speyside2 wrote:
It's all good. NASA can abort.


I wonder if that will be acceptable for BGZ?
corey sellers Offline
#75 Posted: Sun, Jul 10 2022, 8:19 PM EST
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Must not know much about Lincoln before he was president. Do some research and maybe you will learn. Not trying to argue just wish the history books would tell the truth. The books tell what is the opinions of the writers at the time rather they are from the north , south , east or west
HockeyDad Offline
#76 Posted: Sun, Jul 10 2022, 9:00 PM EST
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We cancelled Lincoln. After he put down the southern insurrection he unleashed the US Calvary on the Indians out West.
bgz Offline
#77 Posted: Sun, Jul 10 2022, 9:02 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
We cancelled Lincoln. After he put down the southern insurrection he unleashed the US Calvary on the Indians out West.


Yeah, it's so bad, I hear they are trying to cancel the penny.
HockeyDad Offline
#78 Posted: Sun, Jul 10 2022, 9:04 PM EST
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bgz wrote:
Yeah, it's so bad, I hear they are trying to cancel the penny.


We had a coin shortage during Covid-19. We don’t use coins anymore.
bgz Offline
#79 Posted: Sun, Jul 10 2022, 9:06 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
We had a coin shortage during Covid-19. We don’t use coins anymore.


See how far they'll go to cancel Lincoln?

Surprised they haven't tried to put Pelosi on the $5.
HockeyDad Offline
#80 Posted: Sun, Jul 10 2022, 9:53 PM EST
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Maybe we’ll make our own currency in California and do just that!

Hold my beer.
RayR Offline
#81 Posted: Sun, Jul 10 2022, 9:56 PM EST
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The first and forgotten insurrectionist secessionists were Northerners. Did you learn that from your history books?
Lincoln would later refute the principles of the Declaration of Independence and lie like Pelosi as he refused to recognize the legality of the South’s actions by calling it an act of rebellion.

The Man Who Literally Wrote the U.S. Constitution Advocated Secession in 1812

Thomas DiLorenzo

Quote:
Founding father Gouveneur Morris of New York was chairman of the Committee on Style and is credited with literally writing the final draft of the Constitution. Along with the New England Federalists, he advocated secession of New England and New York. The Federalists were so opposed to Jefferson, his and Madison’s trade embargo, and the War of 1812, all of which they believed were harmful to the New England economy, that they plotted to secede.

This proves once and for all that the founding fathers all agreed with Senator Timothy Pickering of Massachusetts, who was George Washington’s secretary of war and secretary of state, that secession was “the” principle of the American Revolution; that of course the union is voluntary; and of course the citizens of each state have a right to secede. (Senator Pickering was the leader of the New England secession movement from 1801-1814).

Case closed.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/the-man-who-literally-wrote-the-u-s-constitution-advocated-secession-in-1812/
Sunoverbeach Offline
#82 Posted: Sun, Jul 10 2022, 10:05 PM EST
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On s'en fout?
frankj1 Offline
#83 Posted: Sun, Jul 10 2022, 10:09 PM EST
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merdre?
RayR Offline
#84 Posted: Sun, Jul 10 2022, 10:09 PM EST
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
On s'en fout?


Spoken like a French Jacobin comrade.
frankj1 Offline
#85 Posted: Sun, Jul 10 2022, 10:11 PM EST
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RayR wrote:
Spoken like a French Jacobin comrade.

merdre, oui.
corey sellers Offline
#86 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2022, 5:32 AM EST
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You and Lincoln have alot in common.
corey sellers Offline
#87 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2022, 5:43 AM EST
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Chef
frankj1 Offline
#88 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2022, 9:20 AM EST
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Jefferson, a slave owner, had written a few lines in an original blaming Great Britain for instituting African slavery in the colonies, identifying it as horrendous act against humanity, and included his Anti-Slavery rant in a submitted copy of the Declaration of Independence...it was omitted from the final document that lives to this day.

Several theories have been put forth as to why it was edited out...but:


"Decades later, in his autobiography, Jefferson primarily blamed two Southern states for the clause’s removal, while acknowledging the North’s role as well.

'The clause...reprobating the enslaving the inhabitants of Africa, was struck out in compliance to South Carolina and Georgia, who had never attempted to restrain the importation of slaves, and who on the contrary still wished to continue it. Our Northern brethren also I believe felt a little tender under these censures; for tho' their people have very few slaves themselves, yet they had been pretty considerable carriers of them to others.' "
RayR Offline
#89 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2022, 9:49 AM EST
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t's true, it's an Extract from Thomas Jefferson’s Notes of Proceedings in the Continental Congress

Quote:
July 2. [1776]
Congress proceeded the same day to consider the declaration of Independance which had been reported & laid on the table the Friday preceding and on Monday referred to a commee of the whole. the pusillanimous idea that we had friends in England worth keeping terms with, still haunted the minds of many. for this reason those passages which conveyed censures on the people of England were struck out, lest they should give them offence. the clause too, reprobating the enslaving the inhabitants of Africa, was struck out in complaisance to South Carolina & Georgia who had never attempted to restrain the importation of slaves, and who on the contrary still wished to continue it. our Northern brethren also I believe felt a little tender under those censures; for tho’ their people have very few slaves themselves yet they had been pretty considerable carriers of them to others.

He was saying it wasn't just a couple of Southern States who wanted the anti-slavery passage struck out, it was also the Nothern Yankees who ran the slave trade with their financing and their ships.
frankj1 Offline
#90 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2022, 12:15 PM EST
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RayR wrote:
t's true, it's an Extract from Thomas Jefferson’s Notes of Proceedings in the Continental Congress


He was saying it wasn't just a couple of Southern States who wanted the anti-slavery passage struck out, it was also the Nothern Yankees who ran the slave trade with their financing and their ships.

so ya softened the one you like and hardened the one you wish was the cause...yet he was a Southern person who owned human beings. So, there's that...

Look ray, no one was innocent, but twisting it to make your opinions seem validated is only self serving, not a clarifying event.

Willingness to back off a great declaration by eliminating entire races of people from being created equal by whatever creator one believed/believes in is hypocrisy as is writing the grand statement while owning humans...you really gonna argue that?

It took the 13th and 14th (and 15th) Amendments to start the fixing process that is ongoing today, as even they were not fully inclusive.
RayR Offline
#91 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2022, 3:52 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
so ya softened the one you like and hardened the one you wish was the cause...yet he was a Southern person who owned human beings. So, there's that...

Look ray, no one was innocent, but twisting it to make your opinions seem validated is only self serving, not a clarifying event.

Willingness to back off a great declaration by eliminating entire races of people from being created equal by whatever creator one believed/believes in is hypocrisy as is writing the grand statement while owning humans...you really gonna argue that?

It took the 13th and 14th (and 15th) Amendments to start the fixing process that is ongoing today, as even they were not fully inclusive.


So...you don't like the truth? You don't like hearing that New Englanders were heavily involved in financing the Southern slave trade?
In 1776 there were 13 slave states, not just Southern persons who owned human beings. I think you're twisting your opinions to serve your own prejudices. No one has ever believed in perfect equality among races, tribes, nationalities, sexes, or religions for all the many thousands of years of HUMAN history and it still exists today. You really gonna argue that? In your Massachusetts, chattel slavery existed through the end of the 18th Century. Even when it was considered no more a nice thing to be doing, some kept it alive by relabeling it as indentured servitude.

Stop with those silly woke pie-in-the-sky views of yours that you use to judge the past through your lens of presentism.
frankj1 Offline
#92 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2022, 4:08 PM EST
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RayR wrote:
So...you don't like the truth? You don't like hearing that New Englanders were heavily involved in financing the Southern slave trade?
In 1776 there were 13 slave states, not just Southern persons who owned human beings. I think you're twisting your opinions to serve your own prejudices. No one has ever believed in perfect equality among races, tribes, nationalities, sexes, or religions for all the many thousands of years of HUMAN history and it still exists today. You really gonna argue that? In your Massachusetts, chattel slavery existed through the end of the 18th Century. Even when it was considered no more a nice thing to be doing, some kept it alive by relabeling it as indentured servitude.

Stop with those silly woke pie-in-the-sky views of yours that you use to judge the past through your lens of presentism.



you're mentally ill
corey sellers Offline
#93 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2022, 4:41 PM EST
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Haha
RayR Offline
#94 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2022, 5:50 PM EST
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Frank is full of HATE! He hates Jefferson because he struck out the paragraphs in the Declaration to satisfy 2 Southern colonies and New England slave traders who balked at signing the Declaration with them. Well, sometimes you've got to keep your focus on the main goal and leave other battles for another day. But NO....2 Minutes Hate for Jefferson and ME!

Also Jefferson wasn't inclusive with LGBQ++XYZ/2 people and Drag Queens! HATE! HATE! HATE!

Chef
Sunoverbeach Offline
#95 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2022, 6:04 PM EST
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OK, I think I'll just respond to you in all characters since you're incapable of reading comprehension. Or maybe it's just reading, period.

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Capisce?
Sunoverbeach Offline
#96 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2022, 9:43 PM EST
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Funny how they say we need to talk when they really mean you need to listen.
frankj1 Offline
#97 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2022, 10:09 PM EST
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corey sellers wrote:
Haha

lol?
I think I spelled it backwards.
RayR Offline
#98 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2022, 10:24 PM EST
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
OK, I think I'll just respond to you in all characters since you're incapable of reading comprehension. Or maybe it's just reading, period.

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Capisce?


I didn't know you spoke REPTILIAN?
Sunoverbeach Offline
#99 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2022, 10:27 PM EST
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Didn't know you read it. Lord knows you don't process English worth a chit
RayR Offline
#100 Posted: Thu, Jul 14 2022, 8:24 AM EST
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If those LGBQ++XYZ/2 types can declare June to be Pride Month, I declare July to be Independence Month, where people speak seditious thoughts about the tyranny of dicktators, bloated centralized government and duhmacracy, all that stuff the progressives don't want you to talk about because they are for all for those things.
Da Judge here speaks the truth that they don't want you to hear. Nationalists will recoil in HORROR!

"In a democracy, faithless to constitutional guarantees, the majority will take whatever it wants from the minority — including its liberty and property."


The Tyranny of the Majority

By Andrew P. Napolitano

July 14, 2022

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“Which is better — to be ruled by one tyrant three thousand miles away, or three thousand tyrants one mile away?”
— Rev. Mather Blyes (1706-1788)

Does it really matter if the instrument curtailing liberty is a monarch or a popularly elected legislature? This conundrum, along with the witty version of it put to a Boston crowd in 1775 by the little-known colonial-era preacher with the famous uncle — Cotton Mather — addresses the age-old question of whether liberty can long survive in a democracy.

Blyes was a loyalist, who, along with about one-third of the American adult white male population in 1776, opposed the American Revolution and favored continued governance by Great Britain.

He didn’t fight for the king or agitate against George Washington’s troops; he merely warned of the dangers of too much democracy.

No liberty-minded thinker I know of seriously argues today in favor of a hereditary monarchy, but many of us are fearful of an out-of-control democracy, which is what we have in America today. I say “democracy” because there remain in our federal structure a few safeguards against runaway federal tyranny, such as the equal state representation in the Senate, the Electoral College, the state control of federal elections, and life-tenured federal judges and justices.

Of course, the Senate as originally crafted did not consist of popularly elected senators. Rather, they were appointed by state legislatures to represent the sovereign states as states, not the people in them. Part of James Madison’s genius was the construction of the federal government as a three-sided table. The first side stood for the people — the House of Representatives. The second side stood for the sovereign states that created the federal government — the Senate. And the third side stood for the nation-state — the presidency. The judiciary, whose prominent role today was unthinkable in 1789, was not part of this mix.

In his famous Bank Speech, Madison argued eloquently against legislation chartering a national bank because the authority to create a bank was not only not present in the Constitution but also was retained by the states and reserved to them by the Tenth Amendment.

In that speech, he warned that the creeping expansion of the federal government would trample the powers of the states and also the unenumerated rights of the people that the Ninth Amendment — his pride and joy because it protected natural rights — prohibited the government from denying or disparaging.

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https://www.lewrockwell.com/2022/07/andrew-p-napolitano/844631-2/
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