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bgz Offline
#1 Posted: Sat, Jul 9 2022, 8:38 AM EST
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We live in something different.

We're not really united, and the supreme court is trying it's best to destroy any notion of a state by implying it's preferred rules nationally to what... create one state.

RayRay and his band of merry idiots might have something to say on this... for the dear reader, I give you this spoiler alert... they're wrong.

The country we once knew no longer exists... and it didn't take long at all.

That court needs to go... immediately, otherwise we'll never see the United States again.

We should really consider renaming it...

I recommend Former American Reliable Trumpers.

We don't communicate, we just spew sh*t in your direction and force you to take it in...

Ahhh yes... breath in, breath out.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#2 Posted: Sat, Jul 9 2022, 9:19 AM EST
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Breathe in, breathe in, breathe in
Got a machine head
It's better than the rest
Green to red
Machine head
DrafterX Offline
#3 Posted: Sat, Jul 9 2022, 10:27 AM EST
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Lighten up Francis... Mellow
RayR Offline
#4 Posted: Sat, Jul 9 2022, 11:11 AM EST
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Did you notice Ben is sounding more and more like one of those Squad commies?
He's not making any sense, I need a translator. I think he's trying to build another Straw Man argument out of his drug-addled brain. Unsure
HockeyDad Offline
#5 Posted: Sat, Jul 9 2022, 11:12 AM EST
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bgz wrote:
We live in something different.

We're not really united, and the supreme court is trying it's best to destroy any notion of a state by implying it's preferred rules nationally to what... create one state.

RayRay and his band of merry idiots might have something to say on this... for the dear reader, I give you this spoiler alert... they're wrong.

The country we once knew no longer exists... and it didn't take long at all.

That court needs to go... immediately, otherwise we'll never see the United States again.

We should really consider renaming it...

I recommend Former American Reliable Trumpers.

We don't communicate, we just spew sh*t in your direction and force you to take it in...

Ahhh yes... breath in, breath out.



You mad?

Let’s go Brandon!
Dg west deptford Offline
#6 Posted: Sat, Jul 9 2022, 11:27 AM EST
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Poor pinky

I think Ray broke him

Maybe get a shower Ben

You barely bathe anymore

& clean up the mess

No wonder you're depressed, get it together man
ZRX1200 Offline
#7 Posted: Sat, Jul 9 2022, 11:41 AM EST
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You’re smarter than this…..I think.

I’m labeling this a troll.

Read a Patrick M Wood book.
bgz Offline
#8 Posted: Sat, Jul 9 2022, 1:05 PM EST
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RayR wrote:
Did you notice Ben is sounding more and more like one of those Squad commies?
He's not making any sense, I need a translator. I think he's trying to build another Straw Man argument out of his drug-addled brain. Unsure


Thought you liked straw men... oh...

you said you like strong men, my bad...
RayR Offline
#9 Posted: Sat, Jul 9 2022, 1:44 PM EST
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PFFT! Silly schoolyard response. Did you learn that from AOC?
bgz Offline
#10 Posted: Sat, Jul 9 2022, 1:45 PM EST
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RayR wrote:
PFFT! Silly schoolyard response. Did you learn that from AOC?


No you!
Whistlebritches Offline
#11 Posted: Sat, Jul 9 2022, 3:21 PM EST
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bgz wrote:
We live in something different.

We're not really united, and the supreme court is trying it's best to destroy any notion of a state by implying it's preferred rules nationally to what... create one state.

RayRay and his band of merry idiots might have something to say on this... for the dear reader, I give you this spoiler alert... they're wrong.

The country we once knew no longer exists... and it didn't take long at all.

That court needs to go... immediately, otherwise we'll never see the United States again.

We should really consider renaming it...

I recommend Former American Reliable Trumpers.

We don't communicate, we just spew sh*t in your direction and force you to take it in...

Ahhh yes... breath in, breath out.




Ben for the love of God please put down the crack pipe.If the court were reversed you'd be telling us that's just how the ball bounces.


So run this through your drug addled mind a few times....................That's just the way the ball bounces muthafuqqa!!!
tailgater Offline
#12 Posted: Sat, Jul 9 2022, 3:21 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
You’re smarter than this…..I think.

I’m labeling this a troll.

Read a Patrick M Wood book.


Pat M(y) Wood?
HockeyDad Offline
#13 Posted: Sat, Jul 9 2022, 4:07 PM EST
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bgz wrote:
Thought you liked straw men... oh...

you said you like strong men, my bad...


Nothing wrong with strong men. Someone’s got to open the pickle jar.
HockeyDad Offline
#14 Posted: Sat, Jul 9 2022, 4:09 PM EST
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Whistlebritches wrote:
Ben for the love of God please put down the crack pipe.If the court were reversed you'd be telling us that's just how the ball bounces.


So run this through your drug addled mind a few times....................That's just the way the ball bounces muthafuqqa!!!



He’s having a really hard time letting go of the baby killing.
Whistlebritches Offline
#15 Posted: Sat, Jul 9 2022, 4:32 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
He’s having a really hard time letting go of the baby killing.



Tom I vote that the understatement of the year
JGKAMIN Offline
#16 Posted: Sat, Jul 9 2022, 9:26 PM EST
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It’s a good thing we got Joe Biden in the White House. He ran a campaign promising to unite, he’s done so much to bring people together, his uniting is doing almost as well as the economy.

Build, Back, Better….Lets Go Brandon!
MACS Offline
#17 Posted: Sat, Jul 9 2022, 10:27 PM EST
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#LGB #FJB

Trump was light years better than this administration... and now you f---ers know it, too. Biden and Harris are a damn disgrace.

Anyone think this clown is better than Trump? Please... tell us how. And everything that Trump said would happen if Biden was elected? It has happened.
BuckyB93 Offline
#18 Posted: Sat, Jul 9 2022, 10:37 PM EST
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Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f–k things up {paraphrase}
- President Obama

Yep, here he his with all his supporters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bowJVzf5D7k

Shameful.
BuckyB93 Offline
#19 Posted: Sat, Jul 9 2022, 10:42 PM EST
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NINE teen!
Speyside2 Offline
#20 Posted: Sun, Jul 10 2022, 6:44 AM EST
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Abortion is 1st degree murder, the criminal sentence should be the death penalty!
bgz Offline
#21 Posted: Sun, Jul 10 2022, 8:09 AM EST
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No egg left behind.
RayR Offline
#22 Posted: Sun, Jul 10 2022, 9:41 AM EST
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BuckyB93 wrote:
Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f–k things up {paraphrase}
- President Obama

Yep, here he his with all his supporters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bowJVzf5D7k

Shameful.


Joe was probably taking a nap.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#23 Posted: Sun, Jul 10 2022, 11:37 AM EST
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Most people are shocked when they find out how incompetent I am as an electrician.
Whistlebritches Offline
#24 Posted: Sun, Jul 10 2022, 4:30 PM EST
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bgz wrote:
No egg left behind.



What is an unfertilized egg Ben??? Life or just an egg
rgassman Offline
#25 Posted: Sun, Jul 10 2022, 5:10 PM EST
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so sad a cigar forum is political at all...
JGKAMIN Offline
#26 Posted: Sun, Jul 10 2022, 5:16 PM EST
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Come on RG, even in a sub forum called “POLITICS”?
bgz Offline
#27 Posted: Sun, Jul 10 2022, 5:27 PM EST
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rgassman wrote:
so sad a cigar forum is political at all...


I don't like your attitude.
bgz Offline
#28 Posted: Sun, Jul 10 2022, 5:28 PM EST
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Whistlebritches wrote:
What is an unfertilized egg Ben??? Life or just an egg


Using the current mainstream Trumperica logic... it's a life. Definitely a life.

No egg left behind.
bgz Offline
#29 Posted: Sun, Jul 10 2022, 5:30 PM EST
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Using the same logic... no more vasectomies...

Jacking off should now be made illegal.

No mating unless the woman is ovulating.

Mandatory sperm donations.

Manslaughter for wet dreams.

No more porn... every time a chick eats a load... 5 billion counts of cannibalism.

No egg left behind.
bgz Offline
#30 Posted: Sun, Jul 10 2022, 5:31 PM EST
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You guys want bizarro world... might as well go all the way with it.
Whistlebritches Offline
#31 Posted: Sun, Jul 10 2022, 6:35 PM EST
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bgz wrote:
Using the same logic... no more vasectomies...

Jacking off should now be made illegal.

No mating unless the woman is ovulating.

Mandatory sperm donations.

Manslaughter for wet dreams.

No more porn... every time a chick eats a load... 5 billion counts of cannibalism.

No egg left behind.



Where do you come up with this bullschit............lay off the pipe for 5 minutes bro.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#32 Posted: Sun, Jul 10 2022, 7:09 PM EST
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rgassman wrote:
so sad a cigar forum is political at all...

bgz wrote:
I don't like your attitude.

Nah, dude is spot mutherfuggin on!
bgz Offline
#33 Posted: Sun, Jul 10 2022, 8:38 PM EST
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Whistlebritches wrote:
Where do you come up with this bullschit............lay off the pipe for 5 minutes bro.


Are you saying the parts that make up the whole are not worthwhile?

It's either all cells have rights... or none of them do.

Your blood and liver cells are probably screaming at you... they want their rights too... and you are killing them.

That's it, no more alcohol for you... it's immoral... you're hurting your liver cells.

No egg left behind.
bgz Offline
#34 Posted: Sun, Jul 10 2022, 8:39 PM EST
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
Nah, dude is spot mutherfuggin on!


There are plenty of cigar forums like that...

They all suck.
HockeyDad Offline
#35 Posted: Sun, Jul 10 2022, 8:52 PM EST
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bgz wrote:
Are you saying the parts that make up the whole are not worthwhile?

It's either all cells have rights... or none of them do.

Your blood and liver cells are probably screaming at you... they want their rights too... and you are killing them.

That's it, no more alcohol for you... it's immoral... you're hurting your liver cells.

No egg left behind.



ETA on rage quit?
RayR Offline
#36 Posted: Sun, Jul 10 2022, 8:56 PM EST
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He's cracking up HD, rage quit could be at any time.
bgz Offline
#37 Posted: Sun, Jul 10 2022, 9:04 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
ETA on rage quit?


I don't know... I prefer to do that sh*t on a weekend...

6 days... maybe 13...

Yeah, we'll go with that.

13 days.
Mike3316 Offline
#38 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2022, 2:08 AM EST
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Really Ben???? Without getting into the morality of abortion - you think the SCOTUS is going to "end democracy" (we won't talk about the fact that we DON'T live in a democracy) by overturing a poorly reasoned 50 yr old case (ask ANYONE that's ever gone to lawschool - they'll tell you) and turning the issue back to the states for the people to VOTE on? Hell - even Ruth Bader Ginsburg admitted that Roe was bad law! The entire point of the excercise that is the United States is the people voting - NOT some unelected bureaucrat dictating laws at us. I disagree with you entirely. I do not believe "the court needs to go". In fact - their Roe decision was EXACTLY the correct thing to do. If you don't like it - get your legislature to pass a law codifying abortion. The courts should NOT be making that decision.
Speyside2 Offline
#39 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2022, 6:47 AM EST
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^ Try not to think you know lawyers think, you don't. It is better to ask a group of lawyers. If you had done so, you would have found out that they are torn between precedent and basis.

We live in the United States. The Supreme Court is the head of the judiciary branch of our government. If they are doing their job, often there will be decisions a significant % strongly disagree with. If you disagree or agree with Roe v Wade being overturned you should be advocating at the state level about your states abortion laws.

Everyone including me would do well to brush up on what the federal government constitutionally can and cannot do. We are arguing about a symptom not the problem.
bgz Offline
#40 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2022, 8:23 AM EST
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I've said the problem... but the problem don't want to hear it.

We have way too many stupid people in this country.

So what's the problem... is the problem don't know they're the problem.
RayR Offline
#41 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2022, 9:01 AM EST
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bgz wrote:
We have way too many stupid people in this country.


You sound like an insurrectionist. You sound like you don't believe in the mystical theory of the "Will of the People"
But I agree naturally, that's why I borrowed Gerald Celente's term "duhmacracy" to describe the system as it is.
bgz Offline
#42 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2022, 9:19 AM EST
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Wow... that was smooth, that was fast.

You have some tentacles on you... you jumped right on that.

Lmfao... I can't leave these guys alone with you.
HockeyDad Offline
#43 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2022, 10:08 AM EST
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bgz wrote:
I've said the problem... but the problem don't want to hear it.

We have way too many stupid people in this country.

So what's the problem... is the problem don't know they're the problem.


President Biden got 81 million votes.
RayR Offline
#44 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2022, 10:11 AM EST
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bgz wrote:
Wow... that was smooth, that was fast.

You have some tentacles on you... you jumped right on that.

Lmfao... I can't leave these guys alone with you.



I float like a butterfly and sting like a bee muthaf'er .🐝
Mike3316 Offline
#45 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2022, 11:39 AM EST
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Speyside2 wrote:
^ Try not to think you know lawyers think, you don't. It is better to ask a group of lawyers. If you had done so, you would have found out that they are torn between precedent and basis.

We live in the United States. The Supreme Court is the head of the judiciary branch of our government. If they are doing their job, often there will be decisions a significant % strongly disagree with. If you disagree or agree with Roe v Wade being overturned you should be advocating at the state level about your states abortion laws.

Everyone including me would do well to brush up on what the federal government constitutionally can and cannot do. We are arguing about a symptom not the problem.

Actually yes - I DO know what many lawyers think. I'm one of them. I went to law school and took several constitutional law classes - so I do believe I can speak with some authority on THIS subject. With respect to the quality of the reasoning in Roe I stand by my previous comment. It was a poorly reasoned decision that should have been overturned decades ago. Following precedent is clearly the goal of our judicial system, however, just because an unconstitutional law has been around for decades does NOT mean it should be left in place.

As for the rest of your comment - I agree with you 100%. Overturning Roe did NOT make abortion 'illegal' in the United States (as the PR arm of the DNC (CNN/MSNBC etc) likes to claim. It simply returned the issue to the states for the individual states to decide for themselves. You know - like how you would in a federal republic!
Dg west deptford Offline
#46 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2022, 3:34 PM EST
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bgz wrote:
Using the same logic... no more vasectomies...

Jacking off should now be made illegal.

No mating unless the woman is ovulating.

Mandatory sperm donations.

Manslaughter for wet dreams.

No more porn... every time a chick eats a load... 5 billion counts of cannibalism.

No egg left behind.


One question

You believe in logic?
RayR Offline
#47 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2022, 5:58 PM EST
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DG, Ben was just doing the Straw Man thing there...again!

He CRAZY! 🤪🤪🤪
tailgater Offline
#48 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2022, 6:09 PM EST
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rgassman wrote:
so sad a cigar forum is political at all...


I remember my first drunk post.
JGKAMIN Offline
#49 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2022, 6:52 PM EST
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Well, they don’t call RG the Assman for nothing…
bgz Offline
#50 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2022, 8:23 PM EST
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Dg west deptford wrote:
One question

You believe in logic?



Oh no, not this sh*t again.

Absolutely DG... I believe in using logic!

... just not that absolute logic sh*t or what ever you call it.
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