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Best Hamburger / Cheeseburger Evah?
Palama Offline
#1 Posted:
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Drafter's post about having a beer and a cheeseburger at one of them fancy places inspired me to ask:

Where is the best place you ever had a hamburger / cheeseburger?

Mine was last July 4. My wife and I went to Merriman's Restaurant for our 39th anniversary lunch. We each ordered a drink and a few appetizers / side dishes to share. One of them was a Wagyu hamburger with truffle fries. I forget if there was any cheese but man, the patty was so damn GOOD! I can still kinda taste it. I would definitely go back...despite it's rather high price. Gonz
Gene363 Offline
#2 Posted:
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Sounds amazing!

It would be difficult for me to say the best, hunger plays almost as big a factor as taste.

The first In and Out Double Double, the first Farm Haus, the first Red Robin Gourmet Cheeseburger, Big Helyn's Saloon in San Clemente makes a killer burger and so does the Midway Grill another hole-in-the-wall place in Gloverville, SC
tonygraz Offline
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I still remember one I had at Louis Lunch in New Haven CT with cheese tomato and onions in between toast. It is said that was the first hamburger in the USA by the Library of Congress and you can still go there and get one.
MACS Offline
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I've had In n Out, Whataburger, McD's, BK, Wendy's, Carl's Jr, etc... I really don't see the appeal to any of them. Seriously. I can make a better burger by using 80/20 ground beef and sprinkling a little Lawry's season all on the patty before I grill it or pan fry it.

However... best burger I ever had at a burger joint? Fuddrucker's. Hands down. Same as making it at home.

But the spot in Chula Vista where I had it closed many years ago.
bgz Offline
#5 Posted:
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Best Chains... probably Culver's or Freddy's, Smashburger and In and Out get an honorable mentions.
JGKAMIN Offline
#6 Posted:
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Had a lot of good burgers over the years, but the best for me by far is the Galley Boy burger from Swenson’s Drive-ins out in NE Ohio. I’ve got to swing by anytime I’m within 100 miles or so.

https://swensonsdriveins.com/



HockeyDad Offline
#7 Posted:
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Gordon Ramsey Burger - Las Vegas
Mr. Jones Offline
#8 Posted:
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That DIVE SCHACK burger joint in NEW HAVEN , CT

NAME???

A FEW BLOCKS Away from YALE UNIVERSITY...
ITS a "SKULL and BONES" FAVOURITE!!!
Mr. Jones Offline
#9 Posted:
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Louis' Lunch !!!

Is the name..
Sunoverbeach Offline
#10 Posted:
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Place in a town North of me called Octave Grill (as in Octave Chanut) has some dam good burgers. All grass fed beef and some interesting combos, burger with pulled pork, that kind of thing
madspackler Offline
#11 Posted:
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Jackson Hole/Airline Diner near La Guardia Airport in NY - Just off the Grand Central Parkway.
ZRX1200 Offline
#12 Posted:
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Local spot named Jasper’s.

Everything is from scratch and you can get a malted shake. They used to have a “Himalayan Burger” that was an antelope patty with a pot sticker on top with sweet chili sauce, and jalapeño cream cheese on the bun.
frankj1 Offline
#13 Posted:
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wow, two votes for Louis' Lunch, and in a town known for the best pizza!
Is Louis' the place that steams the burger?
Mr. Jones Offline
#14 Posted:
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No steaming

Grilled on a flat top grille as I remember?

Ask tony
dkeage Offline
#15 Posted:
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Langford Grocery in the 4th ward for 85 years.
Gene363 Offline
#16 Posted:
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I forgot one, Warrens Craft Burger 258 25th St, Ogden, UT It had grilled pastrami on the burger and came with hand cut potato chips.

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tonygraz Offline
#17 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
I've had In n Out, Whataburger, McD's, BK, Wendy's, Carl's Jr, etc... I really don't see the appeal to any of them. Seriously. I can make a better burger by using 80/20 ground beef and sprinkling a little Lawry's season all on the patty before I grill it or pan fry it.

However... best burger I ever had at a burger joint? Fuddrucker's. Hands down. Same as making it at home.

But the spot in Chula Vista where I had it closed many years ago.



Heard just recently that Fuddrucker's burgers have gone way downhill.
tonygraz Offline
#18 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
wow, two votes for Louis' Lunch, and in a town known for the best pizza!
Is Louis' the place that steams the burger?


And they are only walking distance apart. Louis does not steam the burgers, but I've been to a place in Meriden that does -Ted's Steamed burgers. An old buddy of mine loves the steamed burgers, but me not so much.
DrafterX Offline
#19 Posted:
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freaks... Mellow
tonygraz Offline
#20 Posted:
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We miss your pre-pandemic luncheon discussions.
deadeyedick Offline
#21 Posted:
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Big ass burger at Roaring Fork restaurant in Scottsdale. Don’t know what they do to it but it’s smoky goodness.
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#22 Posted:
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George Motz's take on the Oklahoma Onion Burger...

Cooked by me on my little griddle.
frankj1 Offline
#23 Posted:
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tonygraz wrote:
And they are only walking distance apart. Louis does not steam the burgers, but I've been to a place in Meriden that does -Ted's Steamed burgers. An old buddy of mine loves the steamed burgers, but me not so much.

I only remembered it was in CT.
Thanks
DrafterX Offline
#24 Posted:
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Thunder.Gerbil wrote:
George Motz's take on the Oklahoma Onion Burger...

Cooked by me on my little griddle.



Joe's Onion Burger..?? Fine burger.. figured Joe was dead by now... Mellow
Sunoverbeach Offline
#25 Posted:
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Onions have no place on a burger IMO
Mr. Jones Offline
#26 Posted:
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Frank....

Please go knock on the skull and bones front door around
11 pm on Dec. 14, 2022....

When it is answered by electronic voice say...
"Mr. Green Buick Jones " sent me for a special Louis burger .... It will be done...for free...

You may get a tour if you answer correctly....

They'll even make you go get your own beer from the basement GE
Ammonia Gas cylindrical top fridge with ice cold Rolling Rocks, Hienekens, & Miller Hi-Life ( that info is highly secret)...

E.n.j.o.y.

We have plans for your retirement...
JadeRose Offline
#27 Posted:
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Spot Cafe (RIP) Lawrenceville, Illinois before 1993. Old railroad box car converted into a little dump of a restaurant. Never closed. Absolutely filthy but everyone in town ate there and are still wistful when talking about it. Had a fridge next to the grill with tubs of burger. Cook would just get a handful and slap it on the flat top that had been continuously running since prolly the 40's. No weird toppings, seasoning was salt and pepper. Hand cut fries before those were cool. Had to close when the floor collapsed in 1993 and they didn't fix it. The whole town and generations of people were heartbroken. Place had to be held together by grease and nicotine. I remember they had a pie case down at the end of the counter that had pie slices that looked like they had been there since the 70's. I miss that place
frankj1 Offline
#28 Posted:
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grease and nicotine, ya say?
I probably woulda loved that joint.


can't claim any as my Best Evah, but September 1971 thru December 1972 I might have eaten 500 or so of these double cheeseburgers with fries all smothered in gravy at a place called Ma's Diner in Seneca Falls New York just a mile or two from Lake Cayuga. That was a great plateful of eating.

Had to stop going cuz I got thrown out of school (Eisenhower College).
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#29 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
Joe's Onion Burger..?? Fine burger.. figured Joe was dead by now... Mellow


Could be. Who invented it, what restaurant or even exactly what year is uncertain. All that seems to be agreed upon is that it was from Oklahoma during the great depression.
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#30 Posted:
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
Onions have no place on a burger IMO


To each their own. I feel that over powering things, like ketchup on burgers, unless it's part of another sauce, can go fuck it self. I want to taste the burger patty itself, not the gaddamn condiments. And I'm not a fan of things like brioche buns or other fancy buns unless they are critical to the burger as a whole... Basically, I didn't order a loaf of sweet bread with a pile of condiments, I ordered a burger.

Back to the onion burger....the Oklahoma Onion burger isn't raw onions. They are caramelized. In beef fat. From the burger....

It's a small ball of beef, about 2.5 oz, that goes on the griddle, then you put down salt and perch about an equal amount of finely slivered onions on top of it, then grab your smasher and flatten it. Drives the onions into the meat. Cook a minute or two, then flip and turn the heat down. Add a slice of cheese if you want, then put the crown of the bun on and then the heel on top of that or balanced on the side. Use a simple bun - none of the bougie shit, a small potato bread bun or just the basic supermarket plain house brand buns that are like $1.50 for eight, yeah, the ones with more air in them. Let it ride for about 6 minutes - the onions will carmelize in the beef fat, while the moisture from the onions steams the buns. After about 6 minutes, pull it up, set it on the heel, pickle spear on the side and that's it. You don't need anything else on there (I will admit to adding slivered serrano chilies on top of the ball o' beef then the pile of onions then smash for a spicier version)
rfenst Offline
#31 Posted:
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Diamond Jim Brady's in Detroit
Five Guys
Sam Sneads in greater Orlando
Back Yard Burger in greater Orlando
Sunoverbeach Offline
#32 Posted:
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Ya, I know the onions thing is my own hangup. I agree with you the condiments. Pretzel buns are da bomb tho. As long as they're good ones. Nothing dry and crumbly
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#33 Posted:
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I want to like pretzel buns for certain burgers, but I just keep failing at it. I think it's that to be a proper pretzel (bun), it has to be a stronger flavor, so you can tell it's a pretzel. That, I find, tends to overpower the burger meat itself in most cases.

I do however, like pretzel buns with BBQ shredded beef chuck as it can stand up to it.

I'm thinking I need to try a stronger flavored grind for the hamburger with a better pretzel bun. Something like 70% chuck and 30% rib lifter. Maybe even 50% chuck, 30% rib and 20% brisket.

Got any suggestions on brands of the pretzel buns?
Major Boobage Offline
#34 Posted:
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White Castle for the win
Sunoverbeach Offline
#35 Posted:
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Unfortunately I do not. I've only come across good ones in decent restaurants. Any of them I've tried at the store have been disappointing
Jakethesnake86 Offline
#36 Posted:
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I really like fresh beef 80-20 grilled over charcoal. I raise beef cows. I’ve got about 20 or so.
MACS Offline
#37 Posted:
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Jakethesnake86 wrote:
I really like fresh beef 80-20 grilled over charcoal. I raise beef cows. I’ve got about 20 or so.


Prolly don't get no better than that.
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#38 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
grease and nicotine, ya say?
I probably woulda loved that joint.


can't claim any as my Best Evah, but September 1971 thru December 1972 I might have eaten 500 or so of these double cheeseburgers with fries all smothered in gravy at a place called Ma's Diner in Seneca Falls New York just a mile or two from Lake Cayuga. That was a great plateful of eating.

Had to stop going cuz I got thrown out of school (Eisenhower College).



It was a rite of passage to get thrown out of the Spot Cafe for late night shenanigans. The over night cook was an old lady named Martha. Worked the place by herself. On a Friday or Saturday night, place was packed between midnight and like 3 am. Inevitable drunken nonsense would ensue. Martha tolerated it until it hit a certain point and then you were done...and there was no argument. Messing with Martha was in invitation to get the ever-lovin $hit kicked out of you. You'd wake up the next day and realize you got thrown out of the Spot and then haul your carcass in there and apologize to Martha and mean it. She'd smile (she knew you'd be back) and treat you like the Grandmother she was. You'd have a week or 2 to cool your heels and then you were fine. One time a group of us thought it would be funny to "dine and dash." We all jumped up and ran out. Martha yelling at us. Over the course of the next few days, every one of us (about 6) went back in and apologized to her and paid our bill. Felt like a giant a$$hole and never did it again. It was a glorious $hithole. There's actually a Facebook page dedicated to it....

https://www.facebook.com/groups/51830397188/
itsawaldo Offline
#39 Posted:
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JadeRose wrote:
Spot Cafe (RIP) Lawrenceville, Illinois before 1993. Old railroad box car converted into a little dump of a restaurant. Never closed. Absolutely filthy but everyone in town ate there and are still wistful when talking about it. Had a fridge next to the grill with tubs of burger. Cook would just get a handful and slap it on the flat top that had been continuously running since prolly the 40's. No weird toppings, seasoning was salt and pepper. Hand cut fries before those were cool. Had to close when the floor collapsed in 1993 and they didn't fix it. The whole town and generations of people were heartbroken. Place had to be held together by grease and nicotine. I remember they had a pie case down at the end of the counter that had pie slices that looked like they had been there since the 70's. I miss that place


I have their matchbook in my collection; from my College years!

Since I have been back in Chicagoland it would have to be Jackson Ave Pub here in Naperville.
Half pounders of beef goodness.
Order it the way you want or one of a dozen of their creations.

Whistlebritches Offline
#40 Posted:
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Absolute best.........down in Texas Hill Country there is a small family owned chain called Storm's Drive In.5 locations IIRC all small towns west and northwest of Austin..........Lampasas,Burnet and Hamilton are the 3 I remember off the top of my head,.The Storm's special be it double or triple is hands down best burger I've had.They purchase all locally raised beef,fries are fresh cut and the onion rings are flat out amazing.They been in business since 1950.Elvis was seen quite frequently in the Lampasas location back when he was stationed at Fort Hood.Word has it that this is where he started his double chin.


If I gotta go major chain its gonna be Whataburger or Braums
JadeRose Offline
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itsawaldo wrote:
I have their matchbook in my collection; from my College years!

Since I have been back in Chicagoland it would have to be Jackson Ave Pub here in Naperville.
Half pounders of beef goodness.
Order it the way you want or one of a dozen of their creations.




Where the hell did you go to college that would have put you in Lawrenceville Illinois?
Brewha Offline
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The local Red Robyn - they get it perfect every time....
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
Unfortunately I do not. I've only come across good ones in decent restaurants. Any of them I've tried at the store have been disappointing


Thanks. Yeah, that mirrors my experience with store bought.
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JadeRose wrote:
Where the hell did you go to college that would have put you in Lawrenceville Illinois?


Friends in Olney!

How did you find your way there?
tailgater Offline
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Best burger?

Which of your children do you love the most?

8trackdisco Offline
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Juicy Lucy. Suburb of St. Paul MN.
clintCigar Offline
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I've had a few over the years but off the top of my head I would say the "Grim Burger" from Lankford Grocery - Houston, TX
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Best burger I’ve evah had? Hands down the one I cook. The Pattie’s are 5,25 ounces (yes I do weigh them) of prime ground chuck. Break off a piece of beef from the food and weigh it. From a patty and sprinkle it with fresh ground sea salt and multi colored peppercorns. Cook it in its own fat in a well seasoned cast iron skillet. Put it on the freshest slightly toasted supermarket bun you can buy. Top it with a yellow Kraft single, a thick slice of a home grown tomato, some green leaf lettuce and caramelized onions. Spread a little Blue Plate mayo on the bun and you’re done.

As far as purchased, there’s a place in the middle of the hood called Dixie Maid (or Dixiemade not sure is there isn’t a sign). They make them pretty much the same way.
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clintCigar wrote:
I've had a few over the years but off the top of my head I would say the "Grim Burger" from Lankford Grocery - Houston, TX

See post 15. Applause
JadeRose Offline
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itsawaldo wrote:
Friends in Olney!

How did you find your way there?




Cool.....grew up there
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