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They Figured Out Manchin's Kink
DrMaddVibe Offline
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whip The "Emperor" isn't wearing any clothes!

Manchin And Dems Reach Deal On Reconciliation Package, Call It "Inflation Reduction Act"



Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) on Wednesday announced that he's reached a deal with Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) to advance legislation aimed at combating inflation by lowering healthcare costs and paying down the national debt.

"We must be honest about the economic reality America now faces if we want to avoid fanning the flames of inflation," he said in a statement. "At its core, the purpose of reconciliation is to get our economic and fiscal house in order. Contrary to foolish talk otherwise, America cannot spend its way out of debt or out of inflation."


The bill, the "Inflation Reduction Act of 2022" is scant on details, though Manchin says the bill will "cut the inflation taxes Americans are paying, lower the cost of health insurance and prescription drugs, and ensure our country invests in the energy security and climate change solutions we need to remain a global superpower through innovation rather than elimination."

It "would dedicate hundreds of billions of dollars to deficit reduction by adopting a tax policy that protects small businesses and working-class Americans while ensuring that large corporations and the ultra-wealthy pay their fair share in taxes"

As WaPo notes, "The measure also is expected to include provisions that aim to lower prescription drug costs for seniors, impose minimum taxes on corporations and raise money to lower the federal deficit."

"For too long, the reconciliation debate in Washington has been defined by how it can help advance Democrats political agenda called Build Back Better," said Manchin. "Build Back Better is dead, and instead we have the opportunity to make our country stronger by bringing Americans together."

The announcement opens the door for Democratic lawmakers to begin work as soon as next week to advance parts of President Biden's agenda that have been stalled for seven months.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/manchin-and-dems-reach-deal-reconciliation-package-climate-energy-tax-and-healthcare



To anyone thinking he was some rational democrat that had common sense or hearkened back to the Blue Dog Democrats...well that dog don't hunt. They figured out his weakness and got him. Fire up the printing presses and let those dolla bills fly...dolla bills ya'll...dolla bills ya'll...they get paid...he gets paid...his friends get paid...they all get paid...with money we don't have on crap we don't even need. Oh and Ukraine too. YOU? Well, when they all pay back the TARP loans...you can gripe then. Until then, pay no attention to that man swimming across the swamp with money bags on his head...NONEYA concern.
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Manchin selling out and reaching a deal with the devil, evil Chucky Schumer doesn't shock me. Every unprincipled politician has a price stamped on their forehead.

Yes sir DMV, the absurdly named "Inflation Reduction Act of 2022" is one of those FDR-style Keynesian massive tax and spending programs that is supposed to get us out of an inflationary recession which the lizard people say really isn't a recession because the regime redefined what a recession is. Guaranteed the result will parallel the work of the FDR Brain Trust and extend and probably worsen the recession.

Watch in wonder as the propaganda flows from leftist media as they champion the economic genius of the Biden regime.


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So a tax hike and print more money…..this outta work out well
HockeyDad Offline
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I’m curious to read the details to find out how much of the graft might be coming my way through the “clean energy”/“climate change existential threat” spending.

C.R.E.A.M., get the money dollar dollar bill, y'all.
RayR Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
I’m curious to read the details to find out how much of the graft might be coming my way through the “clean energy”/“climate change existential threat” spending.

C.R.E.A.M., get the money dollar dollar bill, y'all.


Yes, I see, you are waiting fo feed at the corporate welfare trough.
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Green energy been very good to me!
MACS Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
Green energy been very good to me!


Just not very green is all... LOL

I laugh, but really it's sad; the stupidity and gullibility of the American people.
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$280 billion in the China bill heading to Biden’s desk….gotta see what’s in that one too!


$369 billion coming soon for climate and energy efforts in the Inflation Reduction Act! Gotta love the name!
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Which companies benefit... and which politicians' spouses are invested in them?

Inquiring minds want to know, but none of them are democrats. (None of the inquiring minds are dems... I'm certain the spouses are democrats)
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ALL the politicians spouses are invested in them!

And the average person is going to get poorer.

The World Economic Forum has now recommended that people should not own cars. It’s a wasteful use of critical materials needed for our energy transformation.
RayR Offline
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The World Economic Forum says you will have No Privacy and No Property and you will like it.

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In a promotional video, the World Economic Forum summarizes the eight predictions in the following statements:

1.) People will own nothing. Goods are either free of charge or must be lent from the state.
2.) The United States will no longer be the leading superpower, but a handful of countries will dominate.
3.) Organs will not be transplanted but printed.
4.) Meat consumption will be minimized.
5.) Massive displacement of people will take place with billions of refugees.
6.) To limit the emission of carbon dioxide, a global price will be set at an exorbitant level.
7.) People can prepare to go to Mars and start a journey to find alien life.
8.) Western values will be tested to the breaking point..

No Privacy, No Property: The World in 2030 According to the WEF

https://mises.org/wire/no-privacy-no-property-world-2030-according-wef




The Next "Crisis" the Global Elite Have Planned
By Doug Casey
International Man

September 16, 2021

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International Man: Every year, the international ruling class—the most influential world leaders, CEOs of big corporations, top academics, and even celebrities—come together at Davos. They discuss topics that interest them and prescribe their preferred policies.

What’s your take on the Davos crowd and what they are doing?

Doug Casey: The Davos crowd has become the most visible element of the ruling class. Although, they overlap with lots of other groups who are pushing the same agenda—Bilderberg, CFR, and Bohemian Grove among them.

A couple of years ago, I wrote an article after I attended the Concordia, which is very similar, with exactly the same people. I don’t plan on going back. It was disturbing and depressing listening to soulless bigshots natter about the best way to rule the plebs.

These people are all part of what you might call the “World Deep State.” They all know each other. They go to the same conferences, and more often than not, they’ve attended the same universities, belong to the same social clubs, and have kids in the same schools.

But most importantly, they share the same worldview. They live in their own little silo, where the rest of 7.9 billion people in the world are outsiders. So it’s only natural that people in such a relatively close-knit—albeit informal—group conspire.

Adam Smith famously observed that whenever two men from the same occupation get together, they always conspire against the interests of the public. It’s a perfectly normal and natural thing.

But these people aren’t just merchants contriving to make a few extra shekels. These people are the top dogs in all of the world’s governments, NGOs, corporations, universities, and media organizations. They have contempt for the little people, whom they treat as either useful idiots or useless mouths. They’re interested in power more than anything else.

As they’ve recently shown in this COVID exercise, they pretty much control the world. They’re very dangerous; I despise them.

More...

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/09/doug-casey/the-next-crisis-the-global-elite-have-planned/
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Politically, Manchin is still a hero. You don’t become a complete heretic because you voted with your party on something.

Wonder if a Republican would ever buck their same party president and how that would go over here.
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8trackdisco wrote:
Politically, Manchin is still a hero. You don’t become a complete heretic because you voted with your party on something.

Wonder if a Republican would ever buck their same party president and how that would go over here.


Like John “Maverick” McCain?
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HockeyDad wrote:
Like John “Maverick” McCain?


Yes.
RayR Offline
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Comparing Manchin to McCain? That's hitting below the belt...McCain was the worst.
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Return to forum without posting in the twilight zone.
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8trackdisco wrote:
Politically, Manchin is still a hero. You don’t become a complete heretic because you voted with your party on something.

Wonder if a Republican would ever buck their same party president and how that would go over here.


Real Mavericky

https://youtu.be/Omk5V0ve4UY

See the dishonesty now???
RayR Offline
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Real Mavericky

https://youtu.be/Omk5V0ve4UY

See the dishonesty now???


Build Back Better 2.0 just got a new name, The “Inflation Reduction Act”
Ya, $700 billion in new taxes for more government spending in a recession, and more money to the regime gestapo, the IRS compliance enforcers. that'll fix that inflation, right Joe?
Hey but look at the green bright side, singles making less than $150,000 per year and married couples making fewer than $300,000 per year can get a $7,500 tax credit to buy an expensive EV. And all those tens of billions of dollars in tax credits to manufacturers of green energy items like solar panels and wind turbines. It's always like this, if you're not one of the takers, you're one of the victims of the robbery.
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No truer statement has been made...

"If you ever want to peer into the future, look at the names of the bills passed by Congress, and then assume the opposite results for their intended goals. The “Inflation Reduction Act” will be yet another example. You can expect much more inflation if such an act is ever implemented."

Inflation To Get Much Worse! Courtesy of The "Inflation Reduction Act"
https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/inflation-to-get-much-worse-courtesy-of-the-inflation-reduction-act/
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I’ve got a secret….

When the $369 billion for climate change is spent, the planet will still be warming and we’re gonna need more money. You heard it here first.
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I have yet to hear from anywhere, adapt to climate warming. Either climate warming doesn't exist or the sky is falling.

It is change, it is up to us to get real. For instance more CO2 means greater crop yields. Why are we not moving from oil products to natural gas products? That is the logical first step. On the down side California will become a desert. Wait, that prolly is on the plus side.

What say we do something else logical? I really don't follow how much global warming there is so I am just throwing out a number. Let's say global warming is 3 degrees. Guess what, that is energy direct from the sun. Let's take a look at harnessing that energy. I don't know if that can be done, but I am guessing no one is looking at that.
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HockeyDad wrote:
I’ve got a secret….

When the $369 billion for climate change is spent, the planet will still be warming and we’re gonna need more money. You heard it here first.



Betting on politicians' shenanigans will not get you good odds.
MACS Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
I’ve got a secret….

When the $369 billion for climate change is spent, the planet will still be warming and we’re gonna need more money. You heard it here first.


Anyone with half an ounce of brain matter knows that. The issue is that 81 million people (Biden voters) don't have that much brain matter.
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Yet they are proving to be smarter than the Trump voters…..

Just sayin’
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Trump has millions of fans. So do pro wrestlers. That isn't were the similarities end.
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Brewha wrote:
Yet they are proving to be smarter than the Trump voters…..

Just sayin’


Oh, so a recession, inflation, gas at record highs.. that's winning?

Huh...
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MACS wrote:
Oh, so a recession, inflation, gas at record highs.. that's winning?

Huh...


Well at least it’s not in a mean tweet.
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MACS wrote:
Oh, so a recession, inflation, gas at record highs.. that's winning?

Huh...

Well, at least he’s not a criminal like the last guy….
MACS Offline
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Brewha wrote:
Well, at least he’s not a criminal like the last guy….


Apparently you've not heard of his son's laptop? And this guy is a career 50 year democrat. Where'd he get all HIS money? Trump inherited his.

But sure, keep ya head buried in the sand.
RayR Offline
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Brewha is in a constant 'state of denial' which is a state of inability or unwillingness to believe or acknowledge something as true. His TDS fantasies are a defense mechanism to deal with his shame of supporting the evil deeds of the left lizard people.
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MACS wrote:
Apparently you've not heard of his son's laptop? And this guy is a career 50 year democrat. Where'd he get all HIS money? Trump inherited his.

But sure, keep ya head buried in the sand.

How Much Is President Joe Biden Worth?

With decades of political experience behind him, Joe Biden was elected the 46th president of the United States on Nov. 7, 2020. Take a look at how he made it from senator to vice president to president — and how he’s earned his wealth along the way.

Birthdate: Nov. 20, 1942
Net Worth: $9 million
Main Sources of Income: Book deals and speaking fees
Career Highlights: 46th president of the U.S.

Joe Biden Net Worth: $9 Million
President Joe Biden’s net worth is $9 million, according to Forbes. Along with his wife, Jill, the Bidens’ wealth includes two Delaware homes valued at $4 million combined, cash and investments worth an additional $4 million and a federal pension worth over $1 million.

Although Biden has made a steady income as a politician, the majority of his wealth has come from book deals and speaking fees. Biden’s starting salary in the Senate was $42,500 a year in 1979; when he left the Senate in 2009, he was making $169,300. As vice president, his salary shot up to $230,700; he’ll be earning $400,000 as president.

Biden’s first memoir, “Promises to Keep,” earned him $71,000 in royalties and $9,500 for audiobook rights around the time of its publication in 2008. But that’s chump change compared to what he has earned since leaving the White House. From 2017 to 2019, the Biden’s earned more than $15 million, according to tax filings reviewed by Forbes. That includes a reportedly $8 million book deal, $1.8 million from book tour events, $2.4 million in speaking fees and $775,000 from the University of Pennsylvania to lead the Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement as the Benjamin Franklin presidential professor of practice....


https://www.gobankingrates.com/net-worth/politicians/joe-biden-net-worth/
Brewha Offline
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Looks like it’s macs whos head is buried.
But not in his sand…
MACS Offline
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Yep... like ol' Joe and his boy are going to just leave all that money from China where everyone can see it. LOL!
Brewha Offline
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And no one has found out about all those business Biden bankrupted.

Yes - he is a sneaky one….
RayR Offline
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You do know the Biden Crime Family has been hiding a lot of dirty loot from the IRS Gestapo, don't you?
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Brewha, trust MACS, he finds accurate information on youtube, alt right, and darkweb sites. They are all great solid opinions.
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It’s a good call out Speyside. Macs is a hardworking researcher and a luminary for all of Cbid.
We all should be guided by the insights, science, and truths that he finds for us.
Not to mention his revelations on health care (honestly, don’t mention this).

I just don’t give him the propers he has earned.

I guess I just have too much liberal lefty in me to straighten up and fly right.
Bummer….
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Speyside2 wrote:
Brewha, trust MACS, he finds accurate information on youtube, alt right, and darkweb sites. They are all great solid opinions.


Over the last two years the difference between a conspiracy theory and fact has been appropriately 6 months.
Brewha Offline
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Guess we’ll have to wait six months to see if you’re right…
bgz Offline
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I don't know... I have to call bullsh*t on that...

Q was a thing... er, it's not actually a thing... I guess it took about 6 months to figure that out...

Then there was the stop the steal thing... it's been a lot longer than 6 months some people still haven't figured out that was he was just a spoiled little b*tch throwing a temper tantrum...

And lizard people... we get confirmation on that one yet? That one's been around for years...
MACS Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
Over the last two years the difference between a conspiracy theory and fact has been appropriately 6 months.


Don't visit alt right or dark web sites. I've posted numerous YouTube videos that make fun of leftist idiots.

Seems 2 of them are easily triggered. LOL

They make me laugh, though... and I like to share the laughter.
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Speyside2 wrote:
Brewha, trust MACS, he finds accurate information on youtube, alt right, and darkweb sites. They are all great solid opinions.


Trust this guy, though... he goes off the rails when he eats a certain kind of bread.
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Whenever a progressive talks about investments in our future, you know there is grand larceny planned on a monumental scale.

A Political Victory for the Joes Is a Loss for the Country

William L. Anderson

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After months of being portrayed as a villain or worse in the mainstream media, Joe Manchin suddenly has become a Democratic Party hero—all because he has declared he will support legislation that he and President Joe Biden claim will “reduce inflation” and give us better weather. Not surprisingly, the New York Times is leading the way in effusively praising the legislation, claiming the bill “would be the most ambitious action ever taken by the United States to try to stop the planet from catastrophically overheating.”

The “newspaper of record” continues:

The bill aims to tackle global warming by using billions of dollars in tax incentives to ramp up wind, solar, geothermal, battery and other clean energy industries over the next decade. Companies would receive financial incentives to keep open nuclear plants that might have closed, or to capture emissions from industrial facilities and bury them underground before they can warm the planet. Car buyers with incomes below a certain level would receive a $7,500 tax credit to purchase a new electric vehicle and $4,000 for a used one. Americans would receive rebates to install heat pumps and make their homes more energy-efficient.

Biden declared: “This is the action the American people have been waiting for,” adding that the proposed bill provides “investments in our energy security for the future.”

Progressives claim this combination of new taxes, tax credits, and political favoritism will promote wind and solar energy, vastly curb carbon dioxide emissions, save the US government billions of dollars via cheaper drug prices, and curtail inflation (it is currently titled The Inflation Reduction Act of 2022). And—to ensure Manchin’s endorsement—it supports a natural gas pipeline in Manchin’s home state of West Virginia.

More...

https://mises.org/wire/political-victory-joes-loss-country
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https://youtu.be/D4XF5CtJLX8


Goodbye, Joe Manchin. Your Senate Career Is Over



The West Virginia moderate declared his support for legislation that’s a slap in the face to his constituents who put him in office.

Joe Manchin, the Democratic U.S. senator from West Virginia, may finally see the writing on the wall and realize his time in politics is coming to an end. Manchin, who held onto his Senate seat by just over 3 percent during his most recent reelection bid, is likely to squander any of the goodwill he has generated among his constituents with his recently declared support for the latest reconciliation bill in the Senate.

After presenting himself as a foil to many of the Biden administration’s leftist legislative goals, Manchin has come to an agreement with Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer about dedicating “hundreds of billions” of federal funds to “deficit reduction,” raising taxes on American industry, and emboldening green energy initiatives.

Manchin has insisted that passing the reconciliation bill will bring manufacturing jobs back to the United States, but the National Association of Manufacturers (NAM) disagrees. According to NAM, the bill intends to raise $313 billion, nearly half of which will be generated by imposing a 15 percent minimum corporate levy on domestic manufacturers.

This new tax is expected to reduce real GDP by $68.45 billion, eliminate more than 200,000 jobs, and decrease the income of laborers by $17.11 billion.

The bill also, according to Manchin, “addresses our nation’s energy and climate crisis by adopting commonsense solutions through strategic and historic investments that allow us to decarbonize.” According to a summary of the bill from Senate Democrats, the bill would “put the U.S. on a path to roughly 40% emissions reduction by 2030, and would represent the single biggest climate investment in U.S. history.”

Effectively, the bill incentivizes the manufacturing of green technology while disincentivizing most other forms of industrial production.

In West Virginia, the coal industry employs more than 30,000 residents with $2 billion in wages and a nearly $4 billion effect on the state’s economy. And along with coal, the state’s economy is essentially reliant on its manufacturing sector.

In 2020, Donald Trump carried West Virginia by nearly 30 points, and in 2018, Manchin barely maintained his seat during a Democratic wave election. Despite this, Manchin is choosing to support legislation that will most certainly negatively affect his constituents and his state’s economy.

Manchin is not up for reelection until 2024, but considering the increasingly Republican landscape of his home state and his willingness to sabotage the livelihoods of the people who put him in office, it grows more and more likely that this will be the last time he is in office.

https://thefederalist.com/2022/08/02/goodbye-joe-manchin-your-senate-career-is-over/


Just another doe-eyed democrat that got chewed up and spat out by the machination of Chuck Schumer. A senator that once held promise from a party that gave us Slick Willy, the Kenyan King and Pedo Joe. A man that used to stand for something but installed a hinge just above his buttocks on his spine so he could take it better than Pelosi. The meteoric rise and the catastrophic fall surpasses Icarus. Everyone sees him now for what he is.
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Brewha wrote:
Well, at least he’s not a criminal like the last guy….


That's the funniest thing I've heard lately, Biden not a criminal.
RayR Offline
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burning_sticks wrote:
That's the funniest thing I've heard lately, Biden not a criminal.


Trump Derangement Syndrome is a terrible master. It makes peeps like Brewha imagine all sorts of crazy chit.
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RayR is a lizard people... that's why he's so hell bent on saving fertilized eggs.

No egg left behind.
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On the bright side they have a 💩 ton of money to the IRS to go after middle class taxpayers and Joey M’s biggest financial backers get what they want…..

Brewha Offline
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burning_sticks wrote:
That's the funniest thing I've heard lately, Biden not a criminal.

I lost count, how many impeachments is Biden up to?
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and how many people did he purposely cheat (Trump University lawsuit)....how many bankruptcies...odd how one sees hypocrisy and immoral conduct in questionable circumstances, then excuse it when it's ginormously evident in comparison...

I know and like MACS and ZRX, we've herfed, ate and drank and have had long conversations...I consider them intelligent and rational men who I consider friends, but in their political choices...nope...
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I didn’t vote for Cheeto……
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