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New gasoline powered cars are banned after 2035.

Due to the impending power shortage this weekend California has a Flex Alert calling for conservation of electricity between 4-9pm.

Set AC thermostats to 78
Do not use major appliances
Do not charge electric cars

This is how we roll!

I once tried to move to California but failed the Tree Hugger Test.

"California busts past 100% on this historic day for clean energy!" tweeted Dan Jacobson, senior advisor to Environment California, who ran the campaign for SB 100, California's 2018 law requiring the state to use 100% clean energy by 2045.

"Once it hit 100% we were very excited," said Laura Deehan, executive director for Environment California. She said the organization and others have worked for 20 years to push the Golden State to complete renewable power via a series of ever tougher mandates. "California solar plants play a really big role."




It was in one municipality and it was for……4 seconds.

Men shouldn’t brag about 4 seconds.

4 seconds is a really long time, dammit!

It was a diesel powered steam roller and ruined the climate but at least we recycled the tin.

Foil ain't tin no more... it's aluminum.

Just s-sayin.

Don't worry.......Be Happy

2035???

Why are they waiting so long?

Huh…. That rhymes…..


Gas will never go away - it will just get priced out of the market.

Channeling Darth Vader:

“I find your lack of intelligence disturbing”

I follow Gavin’s lead….my AC is on 72.

Brownouts are for the peasantry.

Go with the Dodge Charger.

Every single prominent green new deal eco warrior and politician is heavily invested in oil and make alot of money when they "wage war" on oil causing prices to skyrocket. Electric cars are a bigger scam than ethanol. If only the tree fornicators knew what happens to the earth to mine all the rare metals their cars use or where the electricity comes from like natural gas or coal fired power plants. Ethanol is less energy dense than gasoline and is produced with petroleum from the fertilizers, pesticides, herbicides not to mention all the diesel engines that work the fields and the energy it takes to make and distill the alcohol it is a net loss of energy but makes people feel good because its "renewable" but in reality it is just crude oil turned into alcohol so by their own definition it is not renewable. I write this while my 460 hp Detroit diesel idols just to keep me cool burning about a gallon an hour.

I heard LEFTY tried to outlaw The General Lee because it has a Confederate battle flag painted on the roof.
LEFTY hates historical American symbols and stuff that ain't LEFTY.

I could be down for some diesel idol worship

Mine is set to 74 here and it's plenty cool enough in the house.

I love my electric golf cart, quiet and has surprising acceleration. I love my diesel truck too, but I do think electric cars are an inevitability.

That said, it's going to take some huge changes that feel-good political edicts outlawing non-electric will not accomplish.

A dramatic expansion of power generation, especially nuclear power plants. Today we have little reserve generation capacity beyond what we are using, e.g., Building two or three power plants for every refinery in the country.

Smaller vehicles.

Autonmious vehicles

Battery technology improvements and/or a different fuel with all the supporting infrastructure

Use reduction, incentives to reduce industrial use, and smaller homes with much better insulation.

All changes will need to be evaluated against their total enviromental impact. Probbly the most difficult problem of all.

Back in the last centruy federal emission and miliage standards caused the automotive industry to sream Impossible! In response they built really horrible smoged out engines that got less miliage and did not sell. Foreign car makers begain to address the problem and US makers started engineered the engines we have today producing massive amounts of horsepowwer while meeting miliage and polloution standards.

It's just as retarded to think passing a law will magically solve the problem as it is to believe change is not coming.

My next car will be a hybrid Honda Accord Sport with a 2.0L motor and will get something like 45+ city/45+ highway mileage.

I dunno Gene - the law against incandescent lightbulbs worked. Leaded gas too.
Besides, something has to be done.

The pilot program for home Virtual Power Plants look like it works like a hose. I might look in to getting a power wall myself. But I think the best idea is to be as diversified as we can be..

Oh, and you will LOVE the autonomous vehicles. All I have is base Autopilot - and it rocks!

I see what you did there.

Federal laws, not state. Taking lead out of gasoline and dumping incandescent bulbs did not require the extensive changes that the change to 100% electric vehicles will require. Lead-free gasoline was already available, it just took more refining and did not require the addition of alcohol*. Alternative light bulbs were already on the market** and widely available, light sockets accepted any bulb that screwed in and ran on the same electricity.

As for virtual Power Plants, what new power are they going to aggrigate? Again, think of the daily output of all our refineries and replacing that much energy with new electric power sources, not existing.

I have previously posted my want for autonomus vehicles, my Silverado has active speed control and lane centering, not perfect, but very good.


* Archer Dainel Midlands (ADM) got thie alchool scam written into US law. On good thing about going to electrics, ADM can shove their alchool plant us their ass along with the members of the parliment of whores that voted in the alchol in gasoline requirement.

** CFLs were another problematic "solution" aidded and abeded by lawmakers, never mind the merury and phospherious.

Right, so the virtual Power Plants are homes with solar panels on the roof and a battery in the garage that would last the home 2-3 days if the grid were out. When peak loads hit, say 4-9 PM, the batteries sell power back to the grid. Other wise the cell largely power the home. So power made at home. Not viable in all states - not yet. But it is a home run here in Texas.

As far as EV’s, they too are available (more so everyday) and fit in existing garages (joke). Seriously, the adapter to charge the car at home was about $100. Full tank every night.

I believe that laws are needed to move us forwarded, state and or federal.

CFL’s were stop gap - and are largely phased out. But the demand fueled the LED market.

My Autopilot fully steers/drives on twisty back roads at 30 to 85 miles an hour. Camera based - no need for pre-mapped roads. You would McLov it. The FSD package is worth a look on YouTube. It actually goes door to door….

Btw, not that I am a truck man, but the new GM Lighting is kinda cool.

Ford

LMAO DED I think you meant the Ford Hummer….

Apology accepted.

I think if we set up a bank of solar panels that would feed electricity to drive an electric motor which would power a generator... it would be like free perpetual energy and stuff.

I haven't drafted an SBIR in years so maybe we can get Hockeydad and his connections draft up a proposal.
Fore NINE!