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Do you believe the Georgia Senate runoff race will be fixed for Warnock?
Ktaz Offline
#1 Posted:
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If the democrats follow there playbook in democratic strong holds there there will be late mail in ballot counting that will go into the next 2-4 days if Walker has the lead by midnight. If Warnock has a 1.5% lead around Midnight the democratic media including Fox News will call him the winner and we will never hear about mail in ballots being counted
ZRX1200 Offline
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Well the people messing with the Arizona machines aren’t busy.
frankj1 Offline
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Ktaz wrote:
If the democrats follow there playbook in democratic strong holds there there will be late mail in ballot counting that will go into the next 2-4 days if Walker has the lead by midnight. If Warnock has a 1.5% lead around Midnight the democratic media including Fox News will call him the winner and we will never hear about mail in ballots being counted

which republican will do it?
The Governor or the Secretary of State?
MACS Offline
#4 Posted:
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Well... it's a week after election day and AZ still hasn't finished. What happened to "election day"?

This is not normal and it's not right.
frankj1 Offline
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yet it still isn't any kind of evidence of a rigged election.
Krazeehorse Offline
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We cancelled our trip to Florida yesterday but we were driving so I thought I’d stop and vote if we had time. Now it’s not gonna happen.
RayR Offline
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The counting of votes will carry on for days until the desired result is achieved by the Democrat Party.
Sunoverbeach Offline
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You might be in the background of someone's favorite photo
frankj1 Offline
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RayR wrote:
The counting of votes will carry on for days until the desired result is achieved by the Democrat Party.

without specific details, you're just another windbag...

no links, no opinions passed off as news...do you have any solid evidence or proof at all of Democrats fixing the election?
Cuz so far, you've never posted chit.

Lots of gas, but no chit.
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Is this the time for “patriots” to march on Atlanta or The sequel in DC?

Has someone got a copywrite on stopthesteal2?

Await further programming from the Grand Cheetoh Wizard.
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8trackdisco wrote:
Is this the time for “patriots” to march on Atlanta or The sequel in DC?

Has someone got a copywrite on stopthesteal2?

Await further programming from the Grand Cheetoh Wizard.

on this day in history, in 1864 Sherman and co began their March to the Sea from Atlanta...
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frankj1 wrote:
on this day in history, in 1864 Sherman and co began their March to the Sea from Atlanta...


Yeah, but Sherman had the Black vote.
frankj1 Offline
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8trackdisco wrote:
Yeah, but Sherman had the Black vote.

like they had a choice...
8trackdisco Offline
#14 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
like they had a choice...


It didn’t end so well at the Savannah (I think) River for them.
frankj1 Offline
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cuz the ballot mail boxes were removed?
DrafterX Offline
#16 Posted:
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Sherman burned down Jet's house and killed his chikens and stuff... Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#17 Posted:
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I remember that.
Jet's still sore about it.
RayR Offline
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8trackdisco wrote:
Yeah, but Sherman had the Black vote.


But Sherman was a white supremacist. Anxious

Sherman wrote his wife in 1860, “All the congresses on earth can’t make the negro anything else than what he is; he must be subject to the white man”

Ya, since they never saw his private correspondences, had would still have the Black vote.
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would you rather be freed by the efforts of people like Sherman who did not respect you, or be owned by people like Jefferson who wrote nice things about being free?
Seems like an easy decision.
RayR Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
would you rather be freed by the efforts of people like Sherman who did not respect you, or be owned by people like Jefferson who wrote nice things about being free?
Seems like an easy decision.


You've been groomed by myths Frankie.

Sherman didn't free anybody, he even viewed any slaves on the loose after his army destroyed and looted their homes, and attached themselves to the rear of his army as a hindrance.

Sherman was a psychopathic mass murderer, judged by his deeds and the vile language he used toward Blacks, Native Americans, and anybody else that stood in his way including woman and children. He and his army revelled in looting and destruction of their property leaving old woman and children wandering around the smouldering ruins of their homes.
In a letter to his wife on July 31, 1862 Sherman wrote that "the war will soon assume a turn to extermination not of soldiers alone, that is the least part of the trouble, but the people . . . . There is a class of people, men, women, and children, who must be killed ."
Likewise after the war against the South and onto the war against the Injuns his marching orders were "We must act with vindictive earnestness against the Sioux, even to the extermination, men, women and children"

He also believed the cause of the war “was the result of a false political doctrine that any and every people have a right to self-government.”

There's your all American hero.

Jefferson never did or said any of that Frankie.

Abrignac Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
would you rather be freed by the efforts of people like Sherman who did not respect you, or be owned by people like Jefferson who wrote nice things about being free?
Seems like an easy decision.


Don’t know why you bother Frank. You can’t reason with a person who digs up ancient history then shoe pegs it into a contemporary conversation. He’s too caught up in the past to realize times have changed.
HockeyDad Offline
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Abrignac wrote:
Don’t know why you bother Frank. You can’t reason with a person who digs up ancient history then shoe pegs it into a contemporary conversation. He’s too caught up in the past to realize times have changed.


Frank is the one who brought up Sherman!

I wonder if blacks were allowed to drive Sherman tanks in World War 2.
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Pretty sure they had to ride in da back... Mellow
ZRX1200 Offline
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Well the loving democrats didn’t intern the black folks during WW2……I know they let them fly a couple airplanes, not sure about tanks.
RayR Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
Frank is the one who brought up Sherman!

I wonder if blacks were allowed to drive Sherman tanks in World War 2.


There are REAL HISTORY DENIERS here.
They've been groomed by LEFTIES, NEOCONS, and STRAUSIANS.
They probably watch the HISTORY CHANNEL for their American history indoctrination. All their favorite American history historians are LEFTIES, NEOCONS, and STRAUSIANS who make chit up and turn war criminals into war heroes.

Do they know that “History Doesn’t Repeat Itself, but It Often Rhymes”?

Sunoverbeach Offline
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Millions of people are in synchronization with your breathing right now.


Anyone else hold their breath for a second there?
frankj1 Offline
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RayR wrote:
You've been groomed by myths Frankie.

Sherman didn't free anybody, he even viewed any slaves on the loose after his army destroyed and looted their homes, and attached themselves to the rear of his army as a hindrance.

Sherman was a psychopathic mass murderer, judged by his deeds and the vile language he used toward Blacks, Native Americans, and anybody else that stood in his way including woman and children. He and his army revelled in looting and destruction of their property leaving old woman and children wandering around the smouldering ruins of their homes.
In a letter to his wife on July 31, 1862 Sherman wrote that "the war will soon assume a turn to extermination not of soldiers alone, that is the least part of the trouble, but the people . . . . There is a class of people, men, women, and children, who must be killed ."
Likewise after the war against the South and onto the war against the Injuns his marching orders were "We must act with vindictive earnestness against the Sioux, even to the extermination, men, women and children"

He also believed the cause of the war “was the result of a false political doctrine that any and every people have a right to self-government.”

There's your all American hero.

Jefferson never did or said any of that Frankie.


see the question in #19.
It was pretty much an either or, not a request for history much of which is widely known, school marm.
Freed, or owned?

don't bother. no one would choose owned.
Mr. Jones Offline
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Answer to the O.P.

Yes I do... Totally fixed
Mr. Jones Offline
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Pennsylvania had a very strong and I mean excellent vote counting record for decades upon decades on end...then gov WOLF got elected and the pandemic hit ..

Now our once mighty "only one day to count votes record" turned to SHEEEE-ITE!!!
Now we are almost as bad as these new loser states like Georgia and Arizona...
No vote counting should take that freakin' long...
No way in hell!!!

It's a fu*king scam on steroids, or they are hiring special education graduates on the spectrum who cannot count and never could...

What a joke Georgia is!!!
Why do people need food and water delivered to them in lines that last 3-10 hours long to cast a vote?
Who the f*ck is running those polling spots?
I never waited more than 30 minutes to vote in Pennsylvania
Since I started doing so in 1974....

Georgia is living in the freakin' twilight zone and the 5th dimension of idiots who designed their voting system...
RayR Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
see the question in #19.
It was pretty much an either or, not a request for history much of which is widely known, school marm.
Freed, or owned?

don't bother. no one would choose owned.


Your question in #19 ("would you rather be freed by the efforts of people like Sherman who did not respect you, or be owned by people like Jefferson who wrote nice things about being free?") is a logical fallacy, based on false premises.

Sherman's dislike for the "inferior" blacks, and his disregard for their fate was undeniable. Not only did he destroy their homes and food sources, left them with nothing and then ordered them to be sent back where they came from when they started tailing his army, there was the Ebenezer Creek incident where the pontoon bridge over creek was pulled up after his army crossed, stranding 600 slaves on the other side, where many drowned trying to swim across the creek. You consider that as Sherman's concern for them being "freed"?

Jefferson did more, going against the political tide proposing a plan for gradual emancipation of slavery then Sherman, the founding father of terrorism ever did, which was nothing.
Jefferson stopped the Atlantic slave trade under his presidency, and as far as those slaves that he "owned", inherited from his father-in-law, he was legally and morally responsible for their safety until such time that their freedom and security could be legally secured. Not an easy proposition to achieve at the time.

See Jefferson's Attitudes Toward Slavery

https://www.monticello.org/thomas-jefferson/jefferson-slavery/jefferson-s-attitudes-toward-slavery/


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the efforts of people like Sherman= those who were on the side that ultimately ended up ending the practice of humans owning humans. He was selected due to it being the anniversary of his march.
vs.
owned by people like Jefferson= saying the right things while continuing to own people, impregnate the women (rape AND adultery anyone?) and buying and selling them at will. He was not alone, he was selected due to your history of excusing this hideous fact. He was far from alone.

It was a question and was not a popularity contest nor an endorsement of either individual, and per usual you strapped on the ice skates and fled.

The answer is simple. Freedom, however rough the road vs Not being owned. A no brainer...should have been easy for you.

BTW, though I feel terrible about how much anguish it must have cost him emotionally, Jefferson did not free his herd of people even on his deathbed as many were sure he would.
And he bought and sold plenty. Inheritance was just the good fortune of being born after the money maker(s).

Done.


RayR Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
the efforts of people like Sherman= those who were on the side that ultimately ended up ending the practice of humans owning humans. He was selected due to it being the anniversary of his march.
vs.
owned by people like Jefferson= saying the right things while continuing to own people, impregnate the women (rape AND adultery anyone?) and buying and selling them at will. He was not alone, he was selected due to your history of excusing this hideous fact. He was far from alone.

It was a question and was not a popularity contest nor an endorsement of either individual, and per usual you strapped on the ice skates and fled.

The answer is simple. Freedom, however rough the road vs Not being owned. A no brainer...should have been easy for you.

BTW, though I feel terrible about how much anguish it must have cost him emotionally, Jefferson did not free his herd of people even on his deathbed as many were sure he would.
And he bought and sold plenty. Inheritance was just the good fortune of being born after the money maker(s).

Done.



Like a LEFTY, you make unsubstantiated accusations of "rape AND adultery" and have a convenient simplistic view, a complete lack of knowledge of the complexities of the political and social cultures of America back then seen through your lens of presentism.
I make no excuses for what was acceptable practice's back them, only to understand how people thought and why they did what they did.

Back to Sherman, it sure sounds like you approve of the blood soaked terrorist Sherman and his march, even giving him credit for doing his part in ending the practice of slavery, even though that was the farthest thing from his psychopathic mind?
Ending slavery wasn't even a reason given by the Party of Lincoln for its illegal armed invasion the Confederacy. Remember, slavery was still legal and constitutionally protected in some states not in the Confederacy during and after the war. Only the Thirteenth Amendment ratified on December 6, 1865 ended the practice across the whole of the states.
The issue of slavery itself or the spread of slavery or not to the West wasn't a morality play, it was always a pawn used by one party or another achieving and holding on to political power. We know that because they said as much.
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so then, all the well known historical fluff and avoidance employed to avoid an either or question aside, you would choose being a slave.
Got it.
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frankj1 wrote:
so then, all the well known historical fluff and avoidance employed to avoid an either or question aside, you would choose being a slave.
Got it.



Well you really thread jacked this.

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HockeyDad wrote:
Well you really thread jacked this.


well, partly true as I am easily mislead/distracted

First I replied to a post about a march on Atlanta, and I had just read about it being the anniversary of Sherman's march. So far a reasonable side bar.

A couple of jokes ensued, Jet's name was bandied about, the thread was still salvageable.

But then rayray came blasting in with all kinds of boring stuff and it felt like school all over again...I could never focus in school...so I just had to frank with him...I even said "Done" but he kept it up.

I guess what I'm saying is... ray is sorry.
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speaking of Herschel Walker, last week on SNL Chapelle said he didn't want to insult Walker "cuz he's black" but said "he's observably stupid".
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Personally I’m not impressed with Herschel Walker. I guess that’s the best they could come up with to run against someone with socialist/Marxist leanings.
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I don't totally disagree.
But everyone deserves better than Walker!
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I believe there will be so much attention on this that it will be fair no matter which one prevails, although we probably won't have a decision election night. Nevertheless, Walker is a tragedy for the U.S. Senate.
RayR Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
well, partly true as I am easily mislead/distracted

First I replied to a post about a march on Atlanta, and I had just read about it being the anniversary of Sherman's march. So far a reasonable side bar.

A couple of jokes ensued, Jet's name was bandied about, the thread was still salvageable.

But then rayray came blasting in with all kinds of boring stuff and it felt like school all over again...I could never focus in school...so I just had to frank with him...I even said "Done" but he kept it up.

I guess what I'm saying is... ray is sorry.


So what yer sayin' is that yer dumb? Can't keep up? Like in school? I'm sorry. Boo hoo!

So speaking of crazy people, since you don't like Walker, does that mean Georgia deserves Warnock instead?
The guy is a kooky socialist preacher, he preaches voting is like prayer and duhmacracy will make you like God.
He believes that by beseeching his true God Government to use its sword of coercion that you can create imaginary social justice rights where none existed.

Blasphemy! What a sick fugger! And he has Jewish supporters too? WTF!

"I believe a vote is a kind of prayer for the world we desire ... and that democracy is the political enactment of the spiritual idea that each of us was created, as the scriptures tell us, in the 'Imago Dei' — the image of God," Warnock told a group of Jewish supporters.

He's the son of a Pentecostal minister. I wonder if he plays with poisonous reptiles too.Think


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rfenst wrote:
I believe there will be so much attention on this that it will be fair no matter which one prevails, although we probably won't have a decision election night. Nevertheless, Walker is a tragedy for the U.S. Senate.



Yeah...boo frickety Fetterman hoo and the dead PA guy that got voted in too. Both room temperature giants there.
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RayR wrote:
So what yer sayin' is that yer dumb? Can't keep up? Like in school? I'm sorry. Boo hoo!

So speaking of crazy people, since you don't like Walker, does that mean Georgia deserves Warnock instead?
The guy is a kooky socialist preacher, he preaches voting is like prayer and duhmacracy will make you like God.
He believes that by beseeching his true God Government to use its sword of coercion that you can create imaginary social justice rights where none existed.

Blasphemy! What a sick fugger! And he has Jewish supporters too? WTF!

"I believe a vote is a kind of prayer for the world we desire ... and that democracy is the political enactment of the spiritual idea that each of us was created, as the scriptures tell us, in the 'Imago Dei' — the image of God," Warnock told a group of Jewish supporters.

He's the son of a Pentecostal minister. I wonder if he plays with poisonous reptiles too.Think



HD said we can't play anymore
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I think George Forman and Mike Tyson should team up and Run for office!!!
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frankj1 wrote:
HD said we can't play anymore


No he didn't, he said you were a thread jacker and you need a good spanking. Spanking
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