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HockeyDad Offline
#1 Posted: Tue, Jan 3 2023, 3:55 PM EST
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I think it would be pretty funny if some Republicans broke ranks and voted Nancy Pelosi back in again.
DrafterX Offline
#2 Posted: Tue, Jan 3 2023, 4:05 PM EST
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That would be gay... Mellow
Ram27 Offline
#3 Posted: Tue, Jan 3 2023, 4:12 PM EST
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Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall
RayR Offline
#4 Posted: Tue, Jan 3 2023, 5:23 PM EST
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Don't laugh, I wouldn't put it past those "moderate Republican" RINOS.
They broke ranks before.

Anyway...

BREAKING: Kevin McCarthy LOSES THIRD VOTE For Speaker of House! – Jim Jordan Picks Up 20 Votes

By Jim Hoft
Published January 3, 2023 at 3:39pm

Quote:
Kevin McCarthy lost the third vote for House Speaker on Tuesday.

The winning Republican can only afford to lose 4 votes! He must reach 218 votes to win the Speakership.

McCarthy already lost 13… and its not even halfway over.

Republican ‘rebels’ have coalesced around Jim Jordan.

More...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/01/breaking-kevin-mccarthy-loses-third-vote-speaker-house/
drglnc Offline
#5 Posted: Tue, Jan 3 2023, 5:31 PM EST
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Pure embarrassment for the Republican Party…
HockeyDad Offline
#6 Posted: Tue, Jan 3 2023, 5:38 PM EST
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Day One Charlie FoxTrot.

Matching expectations!
Brewha Offline
#7 Posted: Tue, Jan 3 2023, 6:16 PM EST
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You guys know this election is rigged, right?
HockeyDad Offline
#8 Posted: Tue, Jan 3 2023, 6:23 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
You guys know this election is rigged, right?


No, the Democrats are not involved.

Weird thing is Xi Jinping got 212 votes.
Brewha Offline
#9 Posted: Tue, Jan 3 2023, 6:36 PM EST
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More obvious voter fraud.

everyone says….
ZRX1200 Offline
#10 Posted: Tue, Jan 3 2023, 7:26 PM EST
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Embarrassment? You have old guard that’s unwilling to have a clean process…..and a disagreement over direction.

I guess the left does consider it embarrassing if you step off the plantation with a non-approved thought.
Mr. Jones Offline
#11 Posted: Tue, Jan 3 2023, 7:30 PM EST
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Many peeps were paying LIZ CHENEY's name today
Brewha Offline
#12 Posted: Tue, Jan 3 2023, 8:01 PM EST
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The Left brought popcorn today….
HockeyDad Offline
#13 Posted: Tue, Jan 3 2023, 8:17 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
The Left brought popcorn today….


Prolly issued a US Treasury bond to pay for the popcorn.
ZRX1200 Offline
#14 Posted: Tue, Jan 3 2023, 9:03 PM EST
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Probably used Pelosi’s credit card before it’s inactivated…..if it wasn’t maxed out already for the booze on the plane.
JGKAMIN Offline
#15 Posted: Wed, Jan 4 2023, 7:04 AM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Embarrassment? You have old guard that’s unwilling to have a clean process…..and a disagreement over direction.

I guess the left does consider it embarrassing if you step off the plantation with a non-approved thought.

Bingo! The donkeys have no problems voting on things like this because they know they must side with the big money backers that sent them there.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#16 Posted: Wed, Jan 4 2023, 7:51 AM EST
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Brewha wrote:
The Left brought popcorn today….



Yeah...that stale premade stuff they nourished on during their fantastical spectacular Schiff $hit Show 3.0 INSURRECTION (echo...echo...echo...)trial to behead Trump TV special and elected a racist muslim to lead them off their BLM knees.
drglnc Offline
#17 Posted: Wed, Jan 4 2023, 1:39 PM EST
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BWAHAHAHA... how long will they drag it out? 4th dysfunctional vote is in the books and still no speaker
DrMaddVibe Offline
#18 Posted: Wed, Jan 4 2023, 1:41 PM EST
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McCarthy should get the hint now.
HockeyDad Offline
#19 Posted: Wed, Jan 4 2023, 1:59 PM EST
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They should go with Lauren Boebert.
drglnc Offline
#20 Posted: Wed, Jan 4 2023, 2:10 PM EST
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i think at some point today they let him win but by a 1-2 vote margin just to make a final statement.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#21 Posted: Wed, Jan 4 2023, 2:49 PM EST
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Nope.

They really need to be looking at a much stronger conservative voice than him.
drglnc Offline
#22 Posted: Wed, Jan 4 2023, 3:02 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Nope.

They really need to be looking at a much stronger conservative voice than him.


George Santos would be great as speaker
HockeyDad Offline
#23 Posted: Wed, Jan 4 2023, 4:10 PM EST
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drglnc wrote:
George Santos would be great as speaker


I saw on his resume that he already was Speaker of the House from 2005-2009.
Abrignac Offline
#24 Posted: Wed, Jan 4 2023, 4:21 PM EST
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F**k McCarthy. He’s an arrogant POS. It was a bit presumptuous to move into the Speaker’s office before being elected. FWIW, I don’t see why he’s against the rules package that could get him elected. Oh wait I know why. Because he’s Essentially a Republican version of Pelosi.

While we’re at it, why would any US citizen be against said rules package? My guess is because many have ABSOLUTELY no idea what the election is about and why he hasn’t been elected. But, then again it’s been my experience that most people pick a flavor of Kool-Ade and drink it without having a clue of its list of ingredients.
drglnc Offline
#25 Posted: Wed, Jan 4 2023, 4:47 PM EST
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https://translated-into.com/six
8trackdisco Offline
#26 Posted: Wed, Jan 4 2023, 6:51 PM EST
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Would be even funnier if some Republicans get so fed up with the Trumpians, 6 of them would vote for Jeffers.

Well, you didn't want Mac.

That would be Popcorn time.
MACS Offline
#27 Posted: Wed, Jan 4 2023, 6:57 PM EST
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DC is a toilet that needs to be flushed. Until we get a handle on term limits and lobbyists, it's just gonna be wash, rinse, repeat. While we're up to our eyeballs in turds.
8trackdisco Offline
#28 Posted: Wed, Jan 4 2023, 7:06 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Until we get a handle on term limits and lobbyists, it's just gonna be wash, rinse, repeat.

Yup and Yup.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#29 Posted: Wed, Jan 4 2023, 7:23 PM EST
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My point exactly. All politicians suck.
corey sellers Offline
#30 Posted: Wed, Jan 4 2023, 7:30 PM EST
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Did it die?

Just asking....
Brewha Offline
#31 Posted: Wed, Jan 4 2023, 8:18 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Yeah...that stale premade stuff they nourished on during their fantastical spectacular Schiff $hit Show 3.0 INSURRECTION (echo...echo...echo...)trial to behead Trump TV special and elected a racist muslim to lead them off their BLM knees.

Have you tried prune juice?
Brewha Offline
#32 Posted: Wed, Jan 4 2023, 8:24 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
They should go with Lauren Boebert.

^THIS

All she as to do is show up in a leather teddy and the opposition will fold like and origami duck.
drglnc Offline
#33 Posted: Wed, Jan 4 2023, 8:29 PM EST
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Haha, they barely had enough votes to recess until tomorrow… dems wanted to stay and vote again…
Mr. Jones Offline
#34 Posted: Wed, Jan 4 2023, 8:30 PM EST
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It has become "THE JOKE OF THE WORLD"....

EVEN JOE STRANOSA SAID SO TODAY...

HE WAS GRINNING LIKE A CHESHIRE CAT 😺😺😺
rfenst Online
#35 Posted: Wed, Jan 4 2023, 8:49 PM EST
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Anyone who thinks McCarthy can lead the Republicans and the Senate is delusional- given all he has offered the hold-outs who hate him and still aren't willing to vote for him for at least that single reason. They should elect Scalise if they want any chance of **inner**-party balance/peace. Otherwise, they can elect Jordan to frank themselves over even more. What a shame to watch.

Best thing today was watching Matt Gaetz approach AOC on the floor to float a work-around, which the D's declined They are one in the same on opposite ends of the spectrum.


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MACS Offline
#36 Posted: Wed, Jan 4 2023, 8:58 PM EST
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It's a bit pathetic seeing dems and leftists gloating about the republicans allowing for a little dissent and debate in the party.

Their own party is authoritarian and demands lockstep allegiance.

Honesty holds up under scrutiny... which is why the left tries to silence and cancel anyone who questions them.
Brewha Offline
#37 Posted: Wed, Jan 4 2023, 9:08 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
Anyone who thinks McCarthy can lead the Republicans and the Senate is delusional- given all he has offered the hold-outs who hate him and still aren't willing to vote for him for at least that single reason. They should elect Scalise if they want any chance of inter-party balance/peace. Otherwise, they can elect Jordan to frank themselves over even more. What a shame to watch.

Best thing today was watching Matt Gaetz approach AOC on the floor to float a work-around, which the D's declined They are one in the same on opposite ends of the spectrum.

MTG look like she could be a real winner.

She does not support fringe politics….
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#38 Posted: Wed, Jan 4 2023, 9:11 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
It's a bit pathetic seeing dems and leftists gloating about the republicans allowing for a little dissent and debate in the party.

Their own party is authoritarian and demands lockstep allegiance.

Honesty holds up under scrutiny... which is why the left tries to silence and cancel anyone who questions them.

You forgot that the Left hates America.
rfenst Online
#39 Posted: Wed, Jan 4 2023, 9:29 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
... a little dissent and debate in the party....


McCarthy is so desperate to win he has offered his 20 or so opponents the ability to take him out of the job- anytime just five of them want to. That certainly isn't dissent or debate IMO. That's a sword dangling over his head and gives too much control to any simple group of five. Example:


Them: McCarthy, you better not bring that bill to the floor because we don't want it to have any chance of passing.

McCarthy: But we have a healthy bi-partisan majority...

Them: Well, five of us feel so strongly we will take the speakership away from you. It's your call now...

McCarthy: OK. I want to keep the job so I will kill it just for the five of you!


Exactly what that would be is total b.s., IMO.
Abrignac Offline
#40 Posted: Wed, Jan 4 2023, 9:44 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
McCarthy is so desperate to win he has offered his 20 or so opponents the ability to take him out of the job- anytime just five of them want to. That certainly isn't dissent or debate IMO. That's a sword dangling over his head and gives too much control to any simple group of five. Example:


Them: McCarthy, you better not bring that bill to the floor because we don't want it to have any chance of passing.

McCarthy: But we have a healthy bi-partisan majority...

Them: Well, five of us feel so strongly we will take the speakership away from you. It's your call now...

McCarthy: OK. I want to keep the job so I will kill it just for the five of you!


Exactly what that would be is total b.s., IMO.


You’re oversimplifying the situation. They, like many other Republicans see his as an RINO version of Pelosi. They wouldn’t support him regardless.

BTW, that sword you’re referring to is the way things were done for what a hundred years until Pelosi changed it a couple years ago. Yawn….
DrMaddVibe Offline
#41 Posted: Thu, Jan 5 2023, 6:07 AM EST
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Brewha wrote:
You forgot that the Left hates America.


It's ingrained. Nobody forgets except Lefty.
rfenst Online
#42 Posted: Thu, Jan 5 2023, 8:52 AM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
You’re oversimplifying the situation. They, like many other Republicans see his as an RINO version of Pelosi. They wouldn’t support him regardless.

BTW, that sword you’re referring to is the way things were done for what a hundred years until Pelosi changed it a couple years ago. Yawn….

1. Please explain my oversimplified example less simply.
2. Please provide historical examples of such "arrangements" that have been succesfull-as opposed to leading to new, continuous fights over who will be Speaker
3. Please explain what Pelosi has to do with any of this?
drglnc Offline
#43 Posted: Thu, Jan 5 2023, 9:17 AM EST
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MACS wrote:
It's a bit pathetic seeing dems and leftists gloating about the republicans allowing for a little dissent and debate in the party.



ROFL... A Little Dissent and Debate? They have had months for that... Months to discuss, dissent and debate amongst themselves before the vote... not good enough? fine, Dissent by making a failed bid for the seat as a statement on vote 1... Hell, make a real point and fail on vote 2... but... SIX? that's not dissent... it is disfunction.

Just one of many recent events that are making the Republican party look like fools.
RayR Offline
#44 Posted: Thu, Jan 5 2023, 9:43 AM EST
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It's funny, the Freedom Caucus has been blocking McCarthy.
So, McCarthy is desperate and starts to cave to their demands for leadership roles on committees and stuff.
We all know the moderate Republicans don't like freedom and they will betray true conservative values as they have always done when in power and just be Democrat-Lite. Anything to shake them up is a good thing. They never expected pushback, dissent and debate.

In the meantime, the Democrats have their fire-breathing full-blown radical progressive, Hakeem Jeffries.

More:


Glenn Greenwald says,

Quote:
"In this episode, we examine the serious struggle House GOP leader Kevin McCarthy is facing in his bid to become Speaker of the House, due to serious internal divisions and ideological debates within his party. Those conflicts stand in very stark contrast to the almost always unanimous harmony and obedience of the Democratic House and Senate caucus to their leaders, where rarely a word of dissent is heard or tolerated, and it rather strongly negates the popular liberal view that Republicans, generally, and conservatives, specifically, are a bunch of primitive, mindless cult members who worship their leaders and do what they are told -- a description that does seem to describe quite aptly one of the two major parties, though not the constantly debating and fighting Republicans."
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#45 Posted: Thu, Jan 5 2023, 10:28 AM EST
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It is quite a stark contrast to when Nancy Pelosi selected Hakeem Jeffries to take over her throne and there was absolutely no dissenting opinion.

That’s how it should be done.
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#46 Posted: Thu, Jan 5 2023, 10:36 AM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
It is quite a stark contrast to when Nancy Pelosi selected Hakeem Jeffries to take over her throne and there was absolutely no dissenting opinion.

That’s how it should be done.


Ya, I heard that's the way it works in dicktatorships.
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#47 Posted: Thu, Jan 5 2023, 11:20 AM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
It is quite a stark contrast to when Nancy Pelosi selected Hakeem Jeffries to take over her throne and there was absolutely no dissenting opinion.

That’s how it should be done.

Her final choice and the party's final choice of Jeffries likely wasn't subject to six votes, let alone on TV on the Senate floor with more drama to come. It all had to have been worked out well in advance of their vote, so that their vote was perfunctory. This, however is a pathetic (McCarthy) chit-show fort now.
HockeyDad Offline
#48 Posted: Thu, Jan 5 2023, 11:26 AM EST
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I love perfunctory voting.

Matt Gaetz should be the next nominee!
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#49 Posted: Thu, Jan 5 2023, 11:41 AM EST
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rfenst wrote:
1. Please explain my oversimplified example less simply.


You simply made it sound as though it was arbitrary when the reasons are much more complicated.

wrote:
2. Please provide historical examples of such "arrangements" that have been succesfull-as opposed to leading to new, continuous fights over who will be Speaker


For one, they want to be allowed to offer amendments to bills once a bill reaches the floor. Presently this can only be done in committee. So if a member isn’t on the committee that writes the bill he can’t directly offer an amendment, or participate in debate of such.

They want an end to these one-stop-shop Omnibus bills dropped in their lap a few hours before the vote where there is little time to debate or read the bill before it must be voted on. “We must pass this bill so we can see what’s in it” ~ Nancy Pelosi (ties into #3)

wrote:
3. Please explain what Pelosi has to do with any of this?


The demand by the holdouts would restore the House rules on vacating the chair to what they were before Rep. Nancy Pelosi was elected speaker in 2019. Under Pelosi, a motion to vacate could be offered on the House floor only if a majority of either party agreed to it. Before that rules change, a single member could move for a vote to unseat the speaker.
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#50 Posted: Thu, Jan 5 2023, 11:50 AM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
I love perfunctory voting.

Matt Gaetz should be the next nominee!



Robert's head would explode.
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