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Green is Red...
Stogie1020 Offline
#1 Posted:
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Looks like the world's largest supplier of windfarms is begging for more government regulation to allow them to install more windfarms. There does not seem to be the demand in the commercial sector for investment without significant subsidies or mandates.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/massive-green-energy-company-reports-1-billion-losses-calls-further-governmental-action
DrMaddVibe Offline
#2 Posted:
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And who benefits from the Green scam?

China.
burning_sticks Offline
#3 Posted:
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Ground based wind farms are kill eagles and other birds, sea based are killing whales.
ZRX1200 Offline
#4 Posted:
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^ what did Joy Behar ever do to you??
DrMaddVibe Offline
#5 Posted:
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Speaking of Joy Behar...ever notice you never see her or Sammy Hagar in the same room at the same time?

weird
Brewha Offline
#6 Posted:
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Posts: 12,147
DrMaddVibe wrote:
And who benefits from the Green scam?

China.


"There are more than 500 U.S. manufacturing facilities specializing in wind components such as blades, towers, and generators, as well as turbine assembly across the country. In fact, modern wind turbines are increasingly cost-effective, reliable, and have scaled up in size to multi-megawatt power ratings. Since 1999, the average generating capacity of newly installed wind turbines has more than doubled to 3 MW."


So basically you want to kill US businesses by calling them Chinese...
DrMaddVibe Offline
#7 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:

"There are more than 500 U.S. manufacturing facilities specializing in wind components such as blades, towers, and generators, as well as turbine assembly across the country. In fact, modern wind turbines are increasingly cost-effective, reliable, and have scaled up in size to multi-megawatt power ratings. Since 1999, the average generating capacity of newly installed wind turbines has more than doubled to 3 MW."


So basically you want to kill US businesses by calling them Chinese...


Frying pan


Germany...China...

"The Germany-based company, which dubs itself as "the global leader in offshore power generation," noted the wind industry has faced various unfavorable pressures leading to negative growth in recent months and years, in its earnings report for the first quarter of fiscal year 2023 released Thursday morning. The company added that governments would need to further assist the industry to ensure future positive growth."
Brewha Offline
#8 Posted:
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burning_sticks wrote:
Ground based wind farms are kill eagles and other birds, sea based are killing whales.

Call them Bald Eagles - It helps sell the lie....

Wink
Brewha Offline
#9 Posted:
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Frying pan



Another mindful retort....
DrMaddVibe Offline
#10 Posted:
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Posts: 55,301
Brewha wrote:
Another mindful retort....



Didn't see your quote in the article posted...if you're going to quote cite the source.

Here....because you can't use a computer well....

https://www.wsj.com/ad/article/chinaenergy-powerhouse

Who was righting the ship? Trump.


Sure could go for some mean tweets about now.
Brewha Offline
#11 Posted:
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Didn't see your quote in the article posted...if you're going to quote cite the source.

Here....because you can't use a computer well....

https://www.wsj.com/ad/article/chinaenergy-powerhouse

Who was righting the ship? Trump.


Sure could go for some mean tweets about now.




https://www.energy.gov/eere/wind/wind-manufacturing-and-supply-chain#:~:text=There%20are%20more%20than%20500,turbine%20assembly%20across%20the%20country.

Oh NO! a GOVNERMENT WEB SITE!
Kinda like kryptonite for the weak minded.


Oh, and Trump is an idiot:
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/475757-what-trump-got-right-and-wrong-about-windmills/

And I'm sure you fully believe him.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#12 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
https://www.energy.gov/eere/wind/wind-manufacturing-and-supply-chain#:~:text=There%20are%20more%20than%20500,turbine%20assembly%20across%20the%20country.

Oh NO! a GOVNERMENT WEB SITE!
Kinda like kryptonite for the weak minded.


Oh, and Trump is an idiot:
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/475757-what-trump-got-right-and-wrong-about-windmills/

And I'm sure you fully believe him.



You proved your own point didn't ya.

Please.
Mr. Jones Offline
#13 Posted:
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Dead whales washing up all over NJ. SHORES IN RECORD #'S...

MOST EVER RECORDED...
HockeyDad Offline
#14 Posted:
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Wind farms are fine. We just haven’t done real wind farms yet. Gonna need some more billions. Bailout.
Brewha Offline
#15 Posted:
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Mr. Jones wrote:
Dead whales washing up all over NJ. SHORES IN RECORD #'S...

MOST EVER RECORDED...

I blame HockyDad…
DrMaddVibe Offline
#16 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
Wind farms are fine. We just haven’t done real wind farms yet. Gonna need some more billions. Bailout.



Yes, a real bailout...not that mamby pamby Wall Street one either!
HockeyDad Offline
#17 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
I blame HockyDad…


Sometimes you gotta break a few whales.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#18 Posted:
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How'd the whales get in the air ta get killed by the windmills?
burning_sticks Offline
#19 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
Call them Bald Eagles - It helps sell the lie....

Wink
Actually I think they are killing more golden eagles than bald.

https://www.eagles.org/take-action/wind-turbine-fatalities/

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/wind-energy-company-pleads-guilty-least-150-eagles-killed-us-rcna23360

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/aug/17/golden-eagles-wind-turbines-climate-crisis-wyoming
DrafterX Offline
#20 Posted:
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Thanks Obama... Not talking
HockeyDad Offline
#21 Posted:
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
How'd the whales get in the air ta get killed by the windmills?


Chinese weather balloons
DrMaddVibe Offline
#22 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
Chinese weather balloons



I was really thinking Washington DC politicians blowing more hot air...but yours makes more sense.
Brewha Offline
#23 Posted:
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burning_sticks wrote:
Actually I think they are killing more golden eagles than bald.

https://www.eagles.org/take-action/wind-turbine-fatalities/

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/wind-energy-company-pleads-guilty-least-150-eagles-killed-us-rcna23360

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/aug/17/golden-eagles-wind-turbines-climate-crisis-wyoming


Yes - but no one cares.

No one cares about the harm to wild life from drilling for gas and oil, or oil spills, or any industrial operation. This is America! We drive whole species to extinction - no big deal.

The rub here has nothing to do with animals being killed by energy production. It is "green is bad" so stick with coal and oil.

Honestly - do you give a sh1t about wild animal vs energy production?
Brewha Offline
#24 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
Thanks Obama... Not talking

Did you still not get your phone?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#25 Posted:
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Posts: 55,301
Brewha wrote:
Yes - but no one cares.

No one cares about the harm to wild life from drilling for gas and oil, or oil spills, or any industrial operation. This is America! We drive whole species to extinction - no big deal.

The rub here has nothing to do with animals being killed by energy production. It is "green is bad" so stick with coal and oil.

Honestly - do you give a sh1t about wild animal vs energy production?


Comical from the guy that says he bought an EV because he doesn't care about the environment!

Meanwhile in the real world....

"In short, the United States is following California and Europe into disastrous energy policies that lead to frequent blackouts and brownouts, and people cutting down forests to warm themselves in frigid winters. Apparently, it needs to be noted that people regularly die when the power goes out, especially the sick, young, and elderly. Hospitals, nursing homes, and emergency services depend on reliable power.

Atop all these reasons to eschew wind farms, Lee notes another top concern of locals forced yet again to absorb the high costs of rich people’s fantasies: Wind farms are not only noisy and destructive to local habitats, they’re ugly as sin.

“Biden administration climate envoy John Kerry may bask in fawning headlines, but Hoosiers won’t be able to escape the sight of wind turbines or solar arrays as easily as he escapes Davos on a jet. These eyesores will be permanent features of daily life, along with — potentially — seasonal energy shortfalls,” Lee notes.

The brute ugliness of wind farms ought to be considered one more significant strike against them. Yes, wind turbines require slave labor and empower China by requiring rare-earth minerals China mostly controls and mines in horrifying work conditions. Building the equipment for wind farms and their installations badly damages the environment."

https://thefederalist.com/2023/02/02/wind-farms-dont-just-hurt-the-environment-and-boost-china-theyre-ugly-as-sin/
Brewha Offline
#26 Posted:
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Comical from the guy that says he bought an EV because he doesn't care about the environment!

Meanwhile in the real world....

"In short, the United States is following California and Europe into disastrous energy policies that lead to frequent blackouts and brownouts, and people cutting down forests to warm themselves in frigid winters. Apparently, it needs to be noted that people regularly die when the power goes out, especially the sick, young, and elderly. Hospitals, nursing homes, and emergency services depend on reliable power.

Atop all these reasons to eschew wind farms, Lee notes another top concern of locals forced yet again to absorb the high costs of rich people’s fantasies: Wind farms are not only noisy and destructive to local habitats, they’re ugly as sin.

“Biden administration climate envoy John Kerry may bask in fawning headlines, but Hoosiers won’t be able to escape the sight of wind turbines or solar arrays as easily as he escapes Davos on a jet. These eyesores will be permanent features of daily life, along with — potentially — seasonal energy shortfalls,” Lee notes.

The brute ugliness of wind farms ought to be considered one more significant strike against them. Yes, wind turbines require slave labor and empower China by requiring rare-earth minerals China mostly controls and mines in horrifying work conditions. Building the equipment for wind farms and their installations badly damages the environment."

https://thefederalist.com/2023/02/02/wind-farms-dont-just-hurt-the-environment-and-boost-china-theyre-ugly-as-sin/


Hey, wind farms are fine - great even. They look better than smokestacks!

I get a kick out of "the sky is falling" attitude above. "If we add windmills to the power grid, the grid will collapse, people will die, cat and dogs will live together!!!"

"wind turbines require slave labor..." Like the slaves wouldn't just be doing something else. Did you read this crap?

"...by requiring rare-earth minerals China mostly controls and mines in horrifying work conditions." They do coal mining for power. What is that cake walk on a sunny day??





Look Out - The Windmills are coming!
They'll get you! They'll get us all!!
They'll take your daughter - Errrh - and her little dog too!!


LOL
Speyside2 Offline
#27 Posted:
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^ The grid is in desperate need of a complete rebuild with massive improvements. That's a fact Jack. That said I will take wind over coal/LNG 24/7.
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