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tailgater Offline
#1 Posted:
Joined: 06-01-2000
Posts: 26,185
Disgusting! The ACLU is actually defending NAMBLA in court. For those of you who don't know, NAMBLA is the North American Man / Boy Love Association. I kid you not. It's a group which promotes sex between men and underage boys. It gives tactics to lure children into their cars. It provides trips to other countries where child prostitution is accepted. And it is the group that a murderer/rapist who killed an innocent child in Massachusetts belonged to. The lawyers of his parents want to obtain a list of the members of this horrid group in order to warn others. The American Civil Liberties Union wants to prevent that from happening. They are defending Known and Willing Child Molesters. The ACLU belongs behind bars, but the Liberals support their motives and try to use the first ammendment argument to back them. The Liberal ACLU Lawyers claim "Conservative Christian" groups want to go on a "witch hunt". Well, I for one DO want to go on this witch hunt. And I'll be the one lighting the match when we discover who these twisted souls are. If the ACLU gets in the way, they'll simply be fuel for the fire. Disgusting!
Charlie Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 06-16-2002
Posts: 39,751
The ACLU defends the worst of characters and takes the side of such groups as NAMBLA daily! They are "defending" these characters rights to sodomize underage children.....this is really disgusting! Charlie
unklebill Offline
#3 Posted:
Joined: 12-29-1999
Posts: 729
Should groups that promote violence against abortion practitioners, KKK(for discussions of segregation), and cigar publications/organisations that discuss obtaining illegal cigars(trading with the enemy), gay/lesbian groups (discussions of sodomy), Pro-Hemp groups (seeking legalization of Hemp), Assisted-Suicide Advocates (promoting Suicide), have to submit membership lists? Should all groups that seek peaceful changes to existing laws have to submit membership lists? The question is: Is this group engaging in illegal activity or merely advocating it? If they are merely advocating it, they should not have to turn over membership lists. How many laws would you change if you had your way, and should your name be an govt lists because of that.
Charlie Offline
#4 Posted:
Joined: 06-16-2002
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So Unclebill, do you support this group and think they should have freedom to molest children? Charlie
gdurfor Offline
#5 Posted:
Joined: 01-24-2001
Posts: 288
Bill if this is the way you feel about nambla why don't you send them your address and pictures of your kids. Maybe with your help they can get rid of that "outdated" law dealing with sex with kids. The moral corruption in this country under the vail of diversity/tolerance is sickening. Let everyone do as they like sex with kids, sex with the dead, rape etc. Somethings are black and white once you start with shades of gray under diversity/tolerance society breaks down. Sodom & Gomorra it's here in America.
unklebill Offline
#6 Posted:
Joined: 12-29-1999
Posts: 729
I absolutely do not support this group, nor do I think that they should have the freedom to break laws.
Nor do I think that every group that promotes changes in legislation should have to turn over membership lists to the govt. And that is really the question that is being asked here. I answered your questions, now you answer the ones I asked above.
unklebill Offline
#7 Posted:
Joined: 12-29-1999
Posts: 729
That is the EXACT stance that the KKK, and many others in the great south took during segregation. If you would pay attention, I said I DO NOT support this group, and I will not support this group, but I do support freedom in America. If they break the law they should be punished. If they talk about breaking the law, then freedom of expression rules.
Charlie Offline
#8 Posted:
Joined: 06-16-2002
Posts: 39,751
I am not for breaking the law, and at the same time I oppose those who "bend" the law and use "lawyerspeak" and political spin to get by the law as was the case with the Clinton Administration over the last 8 years. I do not support such groups as the KKK, Black Panthers, or any other group that advocates terrorizing citizens or groups of citizens in this country! The ACLU seems to take the side of any and all organizations that are on the edge of the law. Why should we let these people (NAMBA) talk about the possibility of harming children? This is indeed ludicrous and absurd!
tailgater Offline
#9 Posted:
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Posts: 26,185
Uncle, do ANY of the groups you mentioned approach the horrid status of NAMBLA? This is not an email group who seek to satisfy their urges through discussion and solo fantasy. They are a group of men who not only feel the urge to molest innocent children, but also to act out on that urge and not get caught. They have listed ways to lure kids into their car. They have funded group trips to the Phillipenes to pick out the young victim of their choice. They aided in the murder of an innocent child in Massachusetts. This is not about Hemp or cigars or even segregation. This is duly immoral and the perpetrators should be castrated and put to a slow, agonizing death. This is black and white. There is no ambiguity here. The first ammendment was never intended to protect this. NEVER! This is WAY beyond yelling "fire" in a crowded theatre. If you can't understand that, I pray for you. If you choose not to understand it, then you are assisting NAMBLA's cause whether you like it or not.
tailgater Offline
#10 Posted:
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One other thing, you say if they "talk about breaking the law then freedom of expressoin rules". If you TRULY believe that, then you feel it is OK to tell the pilot of your airplane that you are thinking of detonating a bomb. Or it is OK to call the White House and discuss your thoughts of an assasination attempt. Perhaps you should make your donation to the Charles Mansion Fund, since all he did was TALK about murdering the young lives which were so tragically ended. Freedom of expression can NOT be used as a crutch to aid crimes, or even potential crimes. Why do those of you that are of the Liberal Left feel that Common Sense has no place in the laws of today? Answer me that. Please.
Charlie Offline
#11 Posted:
Joined: 06-16-2002
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Well said Tailgater! Of course our liberal leftist friends will have some negative comment about why they should be allowed to talk about blowing up an airplane full of innocent people and not be arrested for such a deplorable act! I disagree with Unclebill on most everything, but on this one he is so far out of touch with reality that even he should be ashamed of himself! Charlie
tailgater Offline
#12 Posted:
Joined: 06-01-2000
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It seems the reasoning behind allowing groups like NAMBLA to exist and prosper is based on the belief that American citizens have the right to believe whatever they want. I believe strongly in the Constitution, and support the Ammendments for what they were intended to provide. But common sense should dictate that "freedom of speech" does not include a detailed check-list to commit a crime without getting caught. Especially when that crime is against children. That may be an emotional stance, but so what? Also, Uncle, I believe that in earlier threads on this board you have also posted against guns and the NRA. Funny how you choose to dismantle one Amendment while FULLY supporting another one to the letter of the law, despite the consequences. Our forefathers used plain english and common sense when they created the doctrines by which we live. Why can't we do the same today?
Charlie Offline
#13 Posted:
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Posts: 39,751
It is a practice that was perfected by Bill Clinton........SPIN. That is where the plain language disappeared to --------SPIN. Charlie
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