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see how silly it is to mispell someone's name to make a point. i think i understand. clinton screwed up everything except the parts that work. right now you are being governed by a corporate flunky, in lieu of a man who had a sex scandel, with media coverage that lasted more years than it was worth and cost more money than it warrented, who has taken your surplus money and given it to his buddys and has an attorney general who thinks that orange cats are a sign of the devil and god love him, he wants to make sure we are all good christians, not that there is anything wrong with being christian, but some of us are not. doesn't anyone realize we are losing rights, not privileges, in our defense of terrorism?, or a pipeline through afganistan. we have been snookered and not by some slick willie, but a good old boy from a "ranch". everyone else in that area calls it a farm, but "ranch" sounds so reagan and wayne macho. fool me once, shame on you. fool me twice, shame on me. sr=1 jr=2. shame on us. i understand that carter will be in florida as he has been in other third world countries, to make sure the election for governer is honest. shame he wasn't there for the last coup.

Oh my, now Rick actually has a Military man to side with him on his leftist viewpoints! Being and ex Navy flier myself, I can only respect his views, but I do not have to agree with them! It is great to have a President that we know means to put an end to Terrorism and not to "look the other way or unzip his pants and maybe it will go away"! Rick, you will never give GWB credit for anything! This is a given! Now we know, according to you, that the retaliation for WTC was oil driven!?!?!?! Give me a break. Tell the 3,000 plus families that and see what reaction you get! Charlie

char: i spent 4 yrs in the air force. will you respect my views in the morning. i never said the retaliation for wtc was oil driven. AND i do give bush credit for following in his daddy's footsteps. daddy got a super high rating when he took us to war, before he was thrown out of office, by the upstart slick willie, and the yong'un has big numbers. no one is focusing on the fact that the USA is in the dumper as far as the economy is concerned. amazing how the big guys at enron got out with $ and the ordinary people got screwed. take the headlines about the war away and what have you got? a sorry state. like a magician, misdirection is the game. of course the dimwit could not have thought of any of this himself, so the credit must go to his handlers, and like quail, he is sounding presidential, unless you interrupt him and he has to find his place in the script again

Check out the following site: www.nationalreview.com/comment-robbins100801.shtml It gives an interesting perspective of this whole crisis! John

Anyone wanna take odds on how long it will take RICK to type in upper & lower case?

IRON BAR: WhAt MaDe YoU SaY ThAt.

Charlie, regarding the economic stimulus package - both sides are playing political football with this (pushing their own political agenda and calling it stimulus). The Demos want this to be primarily help for unemployed, etc. May be needed but is not really a stimulus and only gets a dollar of benefit for each $ spent by the government. The Repubs want to cut Corporate Taxes such as the alternative minimum tax (retroactivily) stating that any type of tax cut will create jobs (most likely not, the corporations will not create jobs unless there is increased demand). What is needed is incnetives to spend - increase the investment tax credit for business to invest in plant and equipment (create demand and jobs) - provide partial individual tax credits for spending on high ticket items like cars and appliances (create demand and jobs). This way the government leverages its cash outlay and if credits are in the neigborhood of 10% that leverages government spending to a 10:1 ration. Just my .02. Barry

Rick, please educate me. I don't remember being corralled into a Christian Faith Network by Ashcrofts cronies.

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tailgator: part 1. i was real proud of reagan when he ignored the 200 + soldiers blown up in their barracks by terorists in some god forsaken country, the name of which i do not remember.
part 2. "Buying a professional baseball team and reselling it for many millions more?"
"From there it was off to Harvard Business School for an MBA, after his modest grades (c) denied him entry to the University of Texas Law School. After graduation, while his classmates went off to Wall Street, George W hankered after Texas and returned there to seek a job in the oil industry, where he stayed until 1986. After working on his father’s 1988 presidential campaign, George W indulged his soft spot for baseball by buying the Texas Rangers team".
the real story of the texas rangers:
http://www.public-i.org/story_01_011800.htm
i have printed and will read tomorrow, the robbins comment.

too late to grow up. first, these discussion are discourse, second i don't remember discussing the coup recently, third if i have mentioned it, it's because it is important. remember these lackies in washington, republican and democrat alike are supposed to there to serve us, not for self aggrandizement. they call each other the honorable so and so. i think that there is more honor in the soprano family than in dc. at least the sopranos know they are gangsters. the few decent people that get elected are either corrected to the way things are done in dc, or they are eliminaed from competition by the resources of the two parties.
tailgator: the state of oregon or washington decided that if people wanted to be euthanized and they met the criteria that the people of the state along with the medical and psychiatric communities thought was reasonable, they could ask their doctors for the help they wanted. some women want abortions. the christian
faith network, as you called it, under the justice dept headed by ashcroft are telling the people of that state, they doctors will be arrested, because it is against the church he is involved with to commit suicide. as soon as he can he will go after doctors for abortions. right now he is doing nothing to help the medical facilities that have asked for protection against the loonys that kill the dr's and bomb the hospitals. soon we will all be praying in school to a god a lot of don't believe in. remember falwell said if you ae not born again in jesus, you ain't going to heaven. this is the arrogance that ashcroft represents and like it or not you are headed to the corral.

KBG,,,,cute. However, unlike your hero, I was never in a communist country, protesting the actions of my homeland. And unlike you, I do not despise a man because he was born into a wealthy family and made great financial decisions. I would rather have a man at the helm who is driven by financial experience and has at least some seeming degree of virtue, than a man driven by the burning in his loins and personal pride. And anyone who believes the robotics of a Gore speech would be handling our current situation better than Bush, is only fooling themselves and ammusing the rest of us.

GWB is a great leader and he will prove to be a great President! hell, he has already done more than the last clown! Rick quit mewling about GWB and stand behind your President for a change! Charlie PS GWB won all the recounts! Case closed!

navy guy: Although I was relieved that the crew of the P3 returned home safely, I know deep down that they should have done EVERYTHING necessary to prevent the plane from getting into enemy hands. Including crashing it. I was against the "hero's welcome". But you still need to rethink your stance on Bush. Even if you don't agree with his politics, he IS the President and your boss's boss. To say otherwise can easily be construed as ignorant.

TAILGATOR: "Liberal swill" , shamre on you. you cn do better than that. "killing fields" i am not in favor of abortions. women have been having abortions since the begining of time. abortions used to be done after the baby was born. if the infant was the incorrect sex for the tribe, they killed it. the killing fields were the back room butchers that perfomed abortions, the old lady in the back that did it with a coat hanger. it was done. is is done. it will be done. le it be done by doctors in a hospital with protection for the patient. there is no protection now that ashcroft is in. he fails to respond to the clinics that ask for help. "And then you carry the "same" argument out to where your afraid that you'll live to see the combining of Church and State?" the first time the ten commandments were hung on a wall of a government bullding church and state were combined.
i have no problems with the ten commandments, it was given to one of my ancestors.

So you do realize that the violence at abortion clinics has not increased? Bush is not doing more than Clinton, but he isn't doing less. As for having doctors perform abortions, I agree. I am against abortions, but as long as they're legal Real Doctors should perform them. But not on my tax dollar and not by my insurance company, unless medically necessary. As for the 10 Commandments, who cares where it's posted as long as it is not forced upon you? Nobody has any intention of forcing you to remain holy on the Sabboth, nor does the Government force you to Honor Him. So why are you being so petty? What if one of the Supreme Court Justices wore a Cross or a Star of David around his/her neck? Would That be a problem? When you whine about non-issues it makes your other arguments less effective.