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Study: California Faces $379 Billion Retirement Liability
jackconrad Offline
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A new study released by the Foundation for Educational Choice and the Pacific Research Institute estimates California's unfunded liability for state (CalPERS and CalSTRS) pensions and retiree health care at $379 billion. This includes $327 billion in unfunded pension obligations -- more than four times the $75.5 billion obligation the state publicly admits to -- and $52 billion in retiree health-care liabilities. The total shortfall is more than five times the amount of existing state debt outstanding, says Adam Summers, a policy analyst with the Reason Foundation.

The difference in the study's estimate and those of the state have to do with the discount rate used to determine the present value of future liabilities.

CalPERS and CalSTRS utilize overly optimistic discount rates 7.75 percent and 8 percent, respectively.
By contrast, study author Stuart Buck uses the corporate bond index rate, which is the standard for private-sector pension plans.
Buck, however, says even the corporate bond index rate may be a bit conservative. Because pension obligations could still default under certain circumstances (such as corporate bankruptcy) and California does not legally have the option to default on existing pension liabilities, others use the U.S. Treasury bonds rate to get a more realistic picture of the financial situation. This method leads to estimated unfunded state pension liabilities of roughly $500 billion.

Source: Adam Summers, "Study: California Faces $379 Billion Retirement Liability," Reason Foundation, October 6, 2010.
MACS Offline
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Joined: 02-26-2004
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That's what they want you to think. CalPERS is doing just fine, but they're negotiating with a bunch of unions so the sky is absolutely falling.

Games, games and more games. It's crazy. I think our union tells us the sky is falling, i.e. - the county wants you to take a 10% pay cut - because when it doesn't, they can say "SEE!?? We were working for you and we got you a 2 year pay freeze, with NO step increases!" And act like they busted their asses to get it... when in fact, they didn't do a damn thing.

I call it "Piping sunshine up your ass".
donutboy2000 Offline
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Joined: 11-20-2001
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KALIFORNIA IS FINISHED!
snowwolf777 Offline
#4 Posted:
Joined: 06-03-2000
Posts: 4,082
Don't fret yourself.

Moonbeam Brown will smoke a bowl and come up with a totally excellent plan to sell brownies and get the state out of debt in no time!

Pray
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