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WHY LIBERALS STINK AT RUNNING A COUNTRY
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jackconrad Offline
#1 Posted: Sun, Oct 3 2010, 6:28 PM EST
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Well we know where we're goin'
but we don't know where we've been
and we know what we're knowin'
but we can't say what we've seen
and we're not little children
and we know what we want
and the future is certain
give us time to work it out

We're on a road to nowhere
Come on inside
Takin' that ride to nowhere
We'll take that ride

Feelin' okay this mornin'
And you know,
We're on the road to paradise
Here we go, here we go

--“Road to Nowhere” by Talking Heads
calavera Offline
#2 Posted: Sun, Oct 3 2010, 8:15 PM EST
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Because liberalism is great until you run out of other people's money.




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rfenst Offline
#3 Posted: Sun, Oct 3 2010, 10:37 PM EST
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^
Liberalism has nothing to do with o.p.m.
donutboy2000 Offline
#4 Posted: Sun, Oct 3 2010, 11:25 PM EST
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Liberalism is all about other people's money. See redistribution of wealth.
rfenst Offline
#5 Posted: Mon, Oct 4 2010, 3:46 AM EST
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Quit being such a dolt and look it up.
calavera Offline
#6 Posted: Mon, Oct 4 2010, 6:01 AM EST
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What I actually found, and it was quite interesting, was that "liberalism" as a concept seems to embrace the idea of fiscal conservatism- no big government debt, capitalism, free trade, tax equality.

Then you find liberalism as it is practiced today, and pioneered by FDR. Spend, spend, spend as long as it is other people's money. Since the liberal knows what is best for you and your money, it is only right that they should take it from you and throw it into entiltlement programs like social security, medicaid and welfare.

Total BS.

If you find some real "liberals" of the non-modern day democrat variety, maybe you could send them in the direction of Washington DC.




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snowwolf777 Offline
#7 Posted: Mon, Oct 4 2010, 8:04 AM EST
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Socialism and communism get all tied up as "liberal" philosophies, which are not the same as liberalism.

I heard a guy from Sweden on the radio the other day. He found it amusing that we are accusing our current government of trying to fire up "European-style Socialism". He said the Europeans figured out long ago socialism doesn't work and many of them are now pushing for a more America-like system. He also kindly requested we keep BHO over here for the foreseeable future.
TarponMan Offline
#8 Posted: Mon, Oct 4 2010, 10:27 AM EST
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Margaret Thatcher had some interesting comments on socialism...


Prime Minister Thatcher said, "...and Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They [socialists] always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of them."


The present US administration is described as both liberal and socialist, depending who you may be listening to. Either way, we do have a "financial mess", as old Margaret pointed out long ago.
jackconrad Offline
#9 Posted: Mon, Oct 4 2010, 3:40 PM EST
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SOBERALS???
borndead1 Offline
#10 Posted: Mon, Oct 4 2010, 3:59 PM EST
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What I actually found, and it was quite interesting, was that "liberalism" as a concept seems to embrace the idea of fiscal conservatism- no big government debt, capitalism, free trade, tax equality.


Well call me a liberal then, cuz I believe in all those things and would add:

-No foreign aid in the form of money or weapons
-Limited social programs
-Government regulates/creates money, NOT a private bank (Federal Reserve)
-Foreign policy of non-intervention

...just off the top of my head...
Brewha Offline
#11 Posted: Mon, Oct 4 2010, 9:10 PM EST
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Conservatives are willing slaves, and honestly think that the government wants to take money from the middle class and give it to the undeserving poor.

An their owners love them for it.
wheelrite Offline
#12 Posted: Mon, Oct 4 2010, 9:14 PM EST
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All Liberals are homos

all homos are liberals...


weird,right ?
Brewha Offline
#13 Posted: Mon, Oct 4 2010, 9:24 PM EST
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Spoken like a true conservative, Wheel.

Say, you owners, would like another piece of a** . . . .

;-)
jpotts Offline
#14 Posted: Mon, Oct 4 2010, 10:37 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
Quit being such a dolt and look it up.



Robert, Robert, Robert...


...socialists like you preempted the term "liberal" to cloak their philosophy with the intellectual pedigree of the Founding Fathers. And after they soiled that term, now they're going after "progressive." it is not the fault of reasonable individuals if they then use the preempted term to describe what socialists claim to be.

Nice try. Once the baby is born, you can't put it back int he womb. Maybe, if you take issue with the use of the term that people like you have soiled, you should change you ideology?
donutboy2000 Offline
#15 Posted: Mon, Oct 4 2010, 11:51 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
Quit being such a dolt and look it up.



12. Author: pacman357 Date: 09/11/2009  03:06 AM Reply   
It is the folly of the weak-minded, when attempting to engage in debate he would have us believe is somehow intelligent, rational and logic, to simply fall back on name calling, without respect to whether there is any sense at all in trying to label another person. As though applying a moniker on someone else makes it so.

Name-calling has failed to be persuasive as a recognized debate ever since "I’m rubber, and you’re glue" was first coined. It is childishness and idiocy, attempting to masquerade as fact and reason.
uncleb Offline
#16 Posted: Tue, Oct 5 2010, 5:22 PM EST
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The subject of this post should read "WHY POLITICIANS STINK AT RUNNING A COUNTRY"

Do you seriously argue that the liberals have been any worse then the republicans at running this country (other than into the ground)??? If so you are blind or stupid... or both. Politics has become a profession instead of a priveledge. Politicians no longer look upon election as an honor bestoed upon them by the citizens. It is just a way for them to milk the taxpayers and lobbyists and fill their bank accounts.
uncleb Offline
#17 Posted: Tue, Oct 5 2010, 5:23 PM EST
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And I forgot to mention that JPOTTS is an idiot.
jackconrad Offline
#18 Posted: Tue, Oct 5 2010, 9:18 PM EST
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Reagan and Newt didnt run the country into the ground that was done by Republicans who were dumb enough to try and honorably work with Democrats instead of sticking with thier true values..
Cereal City Cigar Smoker Offline
#19 Posted: Tue, Oct 5 2010, 10:12 PM EST
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jackconrad wrote:
Reagan and Newt didnt run the country into the ground that was done by Republicans who were dumb enough to try and honorably work with Democrats instead of sticking with thier true values..


^ You're old enough to know better .... Reagan was a Democrat first, and was a "closet democrat" while POTUS. Spending increased during his administaration. In addition, how can you say on the one hand that Obana runs the country as POTUS, but Reagan didn't and that Newt didn't control the republican congress???

My bias is they all suck ... some more than others........

c3s
jackconrad Offline
#20 Posted: Wed, Oct 6 2010, 12:28 AM EST
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geesh that is such a sugar coated theory ..
rfenst Offline
#21 Posted: Wed, Oct 6 2010, 1:38 AM EST
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jpotts wrote:
Robert, Robert, Robert...


...socialists like you preempted the term "liberal" to cloak their philosophy with the intellectual pedigree of the Founding Fathers. And after they soiled that term, now they're going after "progressive." it is not the fault of reasonable individuals if they then use the preempted term to describe what socialists claim to be.

Nice try. Once the baby is born, you can't put it back int he womb. Maybe, if you take issue with the use of the term that people like you have soiled, you should change you ideology?




http://www.civilpolitics.org/blog/2010/08/is-politics-hopelessly-partisan/ Angel
DadZilla3 Offline
#22 Posted: Wed, Oct 6 2010, 5:49 AM EST
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"Conservative: a statesman who is enamoured of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others." - Ambrose Bierce
jpotts Offline
#23 Posted: Wed, Oct 6 2010, 5:16 PM EST
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uncleb wrote:
The subject of this post should read "WHY POLITICIANS STINK AT RUNNING A COUNTRY"

Do you seriously argue that the liberals have been any worse then the republicans at running this country (other than into the ground)??? If so you are blind or stupid... or both. Politics has become a profession instead of a priveledge. Politicians no longer look upon election as an honor bestoed upon them by the citizens. It is just a way for them to milk the taxpayers and lobbyists and fill their bank accounts.


Too bad you're too much of an idiot to notice that the fastest way to get the sheep to follow you is to give them free food.

That's what liberals do best, moron.
jpotts Offline
#24 Posted: Wed, Oct 6 2010, 5:19 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
http://www.civilpolitics.org/blog/2010/08/is-politics-hopelessly-partisan/ Angel



These differences have been explored in research by psychologists Carney, Jost, Gosling, and Potter (2008), who examined the offices and bedrooms of liberals and conservatives for cues to their personality, and found that liberals were indeed more likely to have items in their room indicating an interest in novel experiences and creativity (e.g., books about travel and music, art supplies, international maps), and conservatives items indicating organization and cleanliness (e.g., calendars, laundry baskets, ironing boards).

These guys have obviously never been in my house.
uncleb Offline
#25 Posted: Fri, Oct 8 2010, 4:20 PM EST
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jpotts wrote:
Too bad you're too much of an idiot to notice that the fastest way to get the sheep to follow you is to give them free food.

That's what liberals do best, moron.


By trying to pin this behavior on just liberals shows what a partisan imbecile (just what the politicians require to continue the cycle) and, by extension, idiot you truly are.

Just to summarize:

JPOTTS is an idiot.
jackconrad Offline
#26 Posted: Fri, Oct 8 2010, 8:53 PM EST
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#27 Posted: Mon, Oct 11 2010, 2:22 PM EST
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uncleb wrote:
By trying to pin this behavior on just liberals shows what a partisan imbecile (just what the politicians require to continue the cycle) and, by extension, idiot you truly are.

Just to summarize:

JPOTTS is an idiot.


In other words, you're mad at me because your hand-outs might get cut off?
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#28 Posted: Mon, Oct 11 2010, 2:28 PM EST
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Uncleb is a perfect example of a guy who is more sheep than he is man.

Political office is a "privilidege?" As if no one votes for these people?

The fact is that full-on liberals are notoriously lazy, and rely on handouts from the "Powers That Be" in order to survive. And when they get conflicted between getting screwed by their benefactors, and taking the crumbs from the table, they'll still take the handouts but whine about how the people providing them are "corrupt" and how he has no power to change things.

In reality, he doesn't have the courage to realize the nonsense he believes has caused much of the problems we have today.

Oh well, at least he will remain a constant source of wool for the mill...
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#29 Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 10:04 AM EST
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TarponMan wrote:
Margaret Thatcher had some interesting comments on socialism...


Prime Minister Thatcher said, "...and Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They [socialists] always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of them."


The present US administration is described as both liberal and socialist, depending who you may be listening to. Either way, we do have a "financial mess", as old Margaret pointed out long ago.



This is why I don't call them Liberals....cuz they don't want or believe in freedom.


I call them: ILLIBERAL LEFTIES.
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#30 Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 3:22 PM EST
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Well at least the conservative are free – until their masters’ bell rings . . . .
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#31 Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 3:23 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Well at least the conservative are free – until their masters’ bell rings . . . .


God doesn't ring bells, sonny.
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#32 Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 3:30 PM EST
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jpotts wrote:
God doesn't ring bells, sonny.

Tell us about God, kiddo – I can’t wait!
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#33 Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 3:34 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Tell us about God, kiddo – I can’t wait!


You know, there is a book out on the subject. Last time I checked, it was an all-time bestseller.

Obviously, you don't read much, do you?
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#34 Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 3:37 PM EST
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Just kidding JP – I was raised an Adventist, and clocked many an hour with the good book.
My comment was that their god was money and the wealthy anyhow . . . . I don’t think the Big G cares much about politics. . . .
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#35 Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 3:42 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Just kidding JP – I was raised an Adventist, and clocked many an hour with the good book.
My comment was that their god was money and the wealthy anyhow . . . . I don’t think the Big G cares much about politics. . . .


Last time I checked, it was a bunch of liberals who are living very, very high on the hog, and portraying Conservatives as being a bunch of rednecks with out a pot to p*ss in.

You can't have it both ways.

In reality, it is liberals and socialists who obsess over wealth, which is why they usually have their hands in everyone else's pockets.

You have a very odd, and unrealistic view of the world.
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#36 Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 3:45 PM EST
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jpotts wrote:
Last time I checked, it was a bunch of liberals who are living very, very high on the hog, and portraying Conservatives as being a bunch of rednecks with out a pot to p*ss in.

You can't have it both ways.

In reality, it is liberals and socialists who obsess over wealth, which is why they usually have their hands in everyone else's pockets.

You have a very odd, and unrealistic view of the world.

Yes – I’m sure it looks strange to you.

But try to image if you can, what your worm’s eye view looks like - - WHOA!
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#37 Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 4:11 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Yes – I’m sure it looks strange to you.

But try to image if you can, what a worm’s eye view looks like - - WHOA!


No thanks. I'll stick to the "looking down at you" perspective.
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#38 Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 4:13 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Yes – I’m sure it looks strange to you.

But try to image if you can, what your worm’s eye view looks like - - WHOA!


If I'm the one with the worm's eye view, I don't have to imagine it...I actually have it (WHOA!). Hello?




Seriously, put down the crack pipe.
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#39 Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 5:11 PM EST
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JPOTTS is an idiot.
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