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Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman/Sanford, FL...
rfenst Offline
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Sanford is about 15 miles from my home and office- at the most. It is our county seat. The courthouses are there. The State Attorneys' Office is there. I have appeared in court there and have served on a jury there. I have had hundreds of Sanford residents as my clients over the years. I have interacted with the Sanford Police Department.

Florida has a "stand your own ground" law. Zimmerman claimed self defense. Police investigated at the shooting scene. the State Attorneys Office was called to come to the scene. The State Attorneys Office made a decision that it did not have enough evidence to charge Zimmerman, however, it did formally call for a Grand Jury hearing to decide whether Zimmerman should be charged. This has turned into a civil rights issue, rather than just a shooting with a death.

There is a public outcry from Sanford and the surrounding communities, as well as hundreds of thousands of people across the nation. All of the evidence is not ready yet and most of it has not been made public.


What do you know and what do you think about all of this from what you have read, scene and heard?
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The Press says Zimmerman is a "White Hispanic"



FuzzNJ Offline
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I was hoping no one would bring this up here.
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FuzzNJ wrote:
I was hoping no one would bring this up here.


why ??
are you a "White Hispanic" too ?
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wheelrite wrote:
The Press says Zimmerman is a "White Hispanic"





One of his parents is reported to be "white" and the other is South American.

Do you think because he is half "white" that he is considered only to be "white" in this matter.
What are your thoughts, from what you know about, whether Zimmerman received preferential treatment?
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FuzzNJ wrote:
I was hoping no one would bring this up here.


Why not?
Where should it be brought up?
wheelrite Offline
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rfenst wrote:
One of his parents is reported to be "white" and the other is South American.

Do you think because he is half "white" that he is considered only to be "white" in this matter.
What are your thoughts, from what you know about, whether Zimmerman received preferential treatment?


I think the press wants to portray this guy as a white racist. He may be a a racist but he really looks hispanic.

But ,in the eyes of the Media Brown on Black crime doesn't make as good a headline.

This whole deal is very sad ..
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Yes he will be treated white here justice dept seems more concerned with this than the black panthers.


What my impression is, reports are conflicting with the kid being on top of him and the shooter chasing the kid. Police seemed to have mishandled this as far as initial actions. And we have a young man that tragically is dead.


And.....racebaters and anti-gun Nazis are taking advantage of the young mans death and disrespecting his family.


There are legitimate concerns about this law and how its applied that's fine to debate with this event. You also have IDIOTS trying to get their 5 minutes of fame with the "wearing hoods" tribute and Spike Lee posting the guys address on Twitter, Black Panthers offering a 10,000$ bounty.......frigging country is filled with idiots on all sides.
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wheelrite wrote:
I think the press wants to portray this guy as a white racist. He may be a a racist but he really looks hispanic.

But ,in the eyes of the Media Brown on Black crime doesn't make as good a headline.

This whole deal is very sad ..


Yes it is very sad.
Don't you think it is people rather than the media who consider him "white"?
ZRX1200 Offline
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^ yes but the media wont "fight" that perception.
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Yes he will be treated white here justice dept seems more concerned with this than the black panthers.


What my impression is, reports are conflicting with the kid being on top of him and the shooter chasing the kid. Police seemed to have mishandled this as far as initial actions. And we have a young man that tragically is dead.


And.....racebaters and anti-gun Nazis are taking advantage of the young mans death and disrespecting his family.


There are legitimate concerns about this law and how its applied that's fine to debate with this event. You also have IDIOTS trying to get their 5 minutes of fame with the "wearing hoods" tribute and Spike Lee posting the guys address on Twitter, Black Panthers offering a 10,000$ bounty.......frigging country is filled with idiots on all sides.


Agreed there are idiots all around.

Since it seems to you that the police botched the investigation, is it possible that they did not?

Even if the police did botch the investigation- is there probable cause (good faith belief that a crime has occurred) to arrest Zimmerman when all the evidence isn't available or known to the public yet?
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ZRX1200 wrote:
^ yes but the media wont "fight" that perception.


What should they "fight" that with? You want him to be identified with the 'darker' side of his family? Hispanic isn't a race by the way.
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No I didn't mean the police botched the investigation what I mean was from what I heard they took three days on releasing info (which can help foment rage in a racially sensitive incident).

And they didn't initially arrest the shooter right?

Sorry I'm at work on break and its noisy.
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ZRX1200 wrote:
No I didn't mean the police botched the investigation what I mean was from what I heard they took three days on releasing info (which can help foment rage in a racially sensitive incident).

And they didn't initially arrest the shooter right?

Sorry I'm at work on break and its noisy.


Didn't arrest the shooter at all.
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Didn't arrest the shooter at all.


He may not have broken any law...
The current law may be flawed but....
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If the Kenyan King had a son he'd wear a hoodie.
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They wont fight the perception Fuzzy. They wont fight it by not refuting it. Why? Because the MOB MENTALITY of many involved feeds on race. And if its black on brown it doesn't play the same.

Thanks. Not arrested but the police turned it over to grand jury right?

The law needs to handle this not a posse of hooded racist idiots. That better?

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ZRX1200 wrote:
They wont fight the perception Fuzzy. They wont fight it by not refuting it. Why? Because the MOB MENTALITY of many involved feeds on race. And if its black on brown it doesn't play the same.


The offspring of a German and Peruvian is black or brown?
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http://gma.yahoo.com/trayvon-martin-shooter-told-cops-teenager-went-gun-030349812--abc-news.html
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FuzzNJ wrote:
The offspring of a German and Peruvian is black or brown?


do you own a Color Television Machine ?
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Mother Seeks Trayvon Martin Trademarks
Records: Late teenager's kin filed pair of applications last week

MARCH 26--The mother of Trayvon Martin has filed two applications to secure trademarks containing her late son’s name, records show.

Sybrina Fulton is seeking marks for the phrases “I Am Trayvon” and “Justice for Trayvon,” according to filings made last week with the United States Patent and Trademark Office. In both instances, Fulton, 46, is seeking the trademarks for use on “Digital materials, namely, CDs and DVDs featuring Trayvon Martin,” and other products.

The March 21 USPTO applications, each of which cost $325, were filed by an Orlando, Florida law firm representing Fulton, whose first name is spelled "Sabrina" in the trademark records.

Martin, 17, was shot to death last month during a confrontation with George Zimmerman, a 28-year-old neighborhood watch captain. Martin, pictured above, was visiting his father’s home in Sanford, Florida when he was shot to death by Zimmerman, who has claimed that he was acting in self-defense.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/trayvon-martin-trademarks-769123
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It's a tragedy no matter how you look at it. I just hope that justice is dispensed regardless of the mobs of people. My big question is how many people were surreptitiously asked for money by Sharpton, Jackson, & Farrakhan? Nothing like hi-jacking a tragedy for personal gain and personal fame.
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Mother Seeks Trayvon Martin Trademarks
Records: Late teenager's kin filed pair of applications last week

MARCH 26--The mother of Trayvon Martin has filed two applications to secure trademarks containing her late son’s name, records show.

Sybrina Fulton is seeking marks for the phrases “I Am Trayvon” and “Justice for Trayvon,” according to filings made last week with the United States Patent and Trademark Office. In both instances, Fulton, 46, is seeking the trademarks for use on “Digital materials, namely, CDs and DVDs featuring Trayvon Martin,” and other products.

The March 21 USPTO applications, each of which cost $325, were filed by an Orlando, Florida law firm representing Fulton, whose first name is spelled "Sabrina" in the trademark records.

Martin, 17, was shot to death last month during a confrontation with George Zimmerman, a 28-year-old neighborhood watch captain. Martin, pictured above, was visiting his father’s home in Sanford, Florida when he was shot to death by Zimmerman, who has claimed that he was acting in self-defense.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/trayvon-martin-trademarks-769123



Obama Bucks...

Btw,
did that one chick ever get her new kitchen ?
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Rclay wrote:
It's a tragedy no matter how you look at it. I just hope that justice is dispensed regardless of the mobs of people. My big question is how many people were surreptitiously asked for money by Sharpton, Jackson, & Farrakhan? Nothing like hi-jacking a tragedy for personal gain and personal fame.



Who cares?
Why?
Do you really think this is about direct money to each of them?
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rfenst wrote:
Who cares?
Why?
Do you really think this is about direct money to each of them?


Bro,,,
It always ends up about the money...

(Obama Bucks)
Human Nature...


wheel,
rfenst Offline
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wheelrite wrote:
Bro,,,
It always ends up about the money...

(Obama Bucks)
Human Nature...


wheel,


Look, i don't begrudge them earning a living- and a good one at that. But, after watching and listening to Sharpton today, I believe he was sincere. And, while he was stirring up emotion, he wasn't stirring up hate or decisiveness. I thought, all things considered, he spoke and handled himself and the situation well. Now, Jackson, on the other hand, sucked. No inspiration whatsoever. Seemed like he was a broken old man compared to Sharpton. I watched the whole thing today for a good couple hours.
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FuzzNJ wrote:
The offspring of a German and Peruvian is black or brown?



I don't know but it is almost guaranteed to oppress someone!
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The whole thing is an outrage.
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HockeyDad wrote:
The whole thing is an outrage.


Florida is a Sh$Thole...
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I have not been following this story very closely, but the knee-jerk reactions all over the news,
seem to be a little over-the-top.
So, Zimmerman was patrolling his neighborhood, because of rampant crime in the area ?
I know in Atlanta, at least once a week, you see crime footage video of the perpatraitors wearing hoodies.
The only description they give, is "males wearing hoodies" ...
So, dude was acting suspicious, and the 911 call said, he appeared to be on drugs. Now, I'm no lawyer,
but that can be taken 100 ways to nowhere, but if someone thinks someone is acting strange, then there is cause for concern.
Hell, I called airport 911 tonight on a guy screaming at the concrete for well over 10 minutes, saying the same jibberish over and
over and over and over and non-stop over and over again. Nutso ...

Now the story is coming out, that the kid was kicking the neighborhood watch guys' ass ... And the white guy shot in defense,
as his head was getting busted against the concrete. I wonder where this will go, and what city will burn first ??

I guess the reward money from the black panthers is nothing to be concerned about. I wonder what Eric Holder is thinking . . . ?
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Without tension between races Sharpton and Jackson have no game. Of course they want to stir the pot, seems some may not see through their rhetoric, sad.
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Whenever I think of Al Sharpton, I'm reminded of the movie "Do the right Thing" by Spike Lee, and the scene that was shot beside the grafitti brick wall stating, "Twana Told the Truth" ... and of course, the Duke LaCross scandal.

Both knee-jerk race related reactions, where white people were demonized & the "truth" is an after-thought.
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Actually, that's the 2nd thought of Sharpton, Jesse & company ...

A few years ago, I went to the funeral of James Brown, and I was too busy looking the other way, when Michael Jackson, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson & their legion of walked inches away from me while I was too busy looking the other way ... weird story. The coliseum that held the funeral was packed, and I got in too late. The shoveled me along with the other w/o seats through the basement corridors, the whole while yelling, no cameras ... well, as soon as we got out in the open, I noticed "everyone" had their camera out ... and I was thinking, why the hell are they allowed to have they're cameras out, and while I was looking the other way, MJ & company walked mear inches passed me. It wasn't until I heard the screaming from the other side of the coliseum, did I realize that their entourage was still in tow. Then I wondered why so many would show up to mourn, and then scream about celebrity sightings ... that thought sorta sunk in, when reports of Paul McCartney flying into to Augusta in the middle of the night, to spend a few hours in the funeral home & then leave, not to cause a celebrity "disturbance" at the funeral ...

I guess sometimes 1+1 = WTF ?
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AND ... The Highlight of the whole tripe, was meeting Gene ...

Awesome BOTL from Augusta ... Just an awesome Guy.

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jetblasted wrote:
Now the story is coming out, that the kid was kicking the neighborhood watch guys' ass ... And the white guy shot in defense, as his head was getting busted against the concrete. I wonder where this will go, and what city will burn first ??




"Meanwhile, the Orlando Sentinel reported that Zimmerman told police he lost Martin in the neighborhood he regularly patrolled and was walking back to his vehicle when the youth approached him from behind. The two exchanged words, Zimmerman said, and Martin then punched him in the nose, jumped on top of him and began banging his head on a sidewalk. Zimmerman said he began crying for help; Martin's family thinks it was their son who was crying out. Witness accounts differ and 911 tapes in which the voices are heard are not clear.

The Sanford police statement said the newspaper story was "consistent" with evidence turned over to prosecutors."
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jetblasted wrote:
AND ... The Highlight of the whole tripe, was meeting Gene ...

Awesome BOTL from Augusta ... Just an awesome Guy.

ThumpUp



I will be passing through Atlanta Thursday AM on my way to FGM's Herf. I am flying in from Orlando on Delta. You gonna be around?
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rfenst wrote:
But, after watching and listening to Sharpton today, I believe he was sincere. And, while he was stirring up emotion, he wasn't stirring up hate or decisiveness.




Frying pan Frying pan Frying pan


No, not them why they'd NEVER play good cop/bad cop in front of the media on a national case with racial implication! Why those pillars of society wait for the facts to come in and THEN pounce!

You can believe what you want. Their track records speak differently than your belief structure.
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jetblasted wrote:
I guess the reward money from the black panthers is nothing to be concerned about. I wonder what Eric Holder is thinking . . . ?



You mean the very same Eric Holder that didn't do a damn thing when he was given the New Black Panthers delivered to him on a silver platter with voter intimidation charges Holder? Yeah...NOTHING. He thinks about NOTHING.

This is without a doubt the most corrupt administration ever and people are watching the wrong things. WAKE UP...the theft of your nation and your rights is happening right in front of your eyes.
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Former NAACP leader accuses Sharpton and Jackson of ‘exploiting’ Trayvon Martin



Former NAACP leader C.L. Bryant is accusing Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton of “exploiting” the Trayvon Martin tragedy to “racially divide this country.”

“His family should be outraged at the fact that they’re using this child as the bait to inflame racial passions,” Rev. C.L. Bryant said in a Monday interview with The Daily Caller.

The conservative black pastor who was once the chapter president of the Garland, Texas NAACP called Jackson and Sharpton “race hustlers” and said they are “acting as though they are buzzards circling the carcass of this young boy.”

Jackson, for example, recently said Martin’s death shows how “blacks are under attack” and “targeting, arresting, convicting blacks and ultimately killing us is big business.” (SEE ALSO: Jesse Jackson says Trayvon Martin ‘murdered and martyred’)

George Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch captain, killed Martin, a 17-year-old black man who was unarmed at the time of his death, last month. Zimmerman has claimed to have shot Martin in self-defense and has not been charged with a crime.

But Bryant, who explores the topic of black-on-black crime in his new film “Runaway Slave,” said people like Jackson and Sharpton are being misleading to suggest there is an epidemic of “white men killing black young men.”

“The epidemic is truly black on black crime,” Bryant said. “The greatest danger to the lives of young black men are young black men.”

Bryant said he wishes civil rights leaders were protesting those problems.

“Why not be angry about the wholesale murder that goes on in the streets of Newark and Chicago?” he asked. “Why isn’t somebody angry about that six-year-old girl who was killed on her steps last weekend in a cross fire when two gang members in Chicago start shooting at each other? Why is there no outrage about that?”

Bryant said he worries that “people like Sharpton and those on the left” will make Martin’s death a campaign issue in the presidential race.

He speculated that they will “turn this evolving tragedy of this young man into fodder to say… if you don’t re-elect Obama then you will have unbridled events or circumstances like this happening in the streets to young men wearing hoodies.” (RELATED: Herman Cain criticizes ‘swirling rhetoric’ after Martin shooting)

He also criticized President Obama for his “nebulous statement” responding to Martin’s death that “if I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon.”

“What does that mean?” Bryant asked. “What was the purpose in that?”



Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/26/former-naacp-leader-accuses-sharpton-and-jackson-of-exploiting-trayvon-martin/#ixzz1qJdHlOUP
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032608/vp/46848559#46848559

and the following video on this roundtable.

Listen to the race baiting STILL going on.


The feelings...the emotions...all ginned up for maximum impact.

They want blood in the streets. Jet was dead on. What town is going to put itself on the map with this disgrace. Why even Bush Derangement Syndrome seeped its way into the conversation. The NAACP President Ben Jealous (oh the irony!) even went so far as to call Sanford a KKK capitol. He's a discredit to the human race. Sanford? Look, I grew up in Orlando...you live there now. Sanford is what...a bedroom community to Orlando? So this is what they talk about on camera...How'd you like to be in the room when the little red light is off?

Even the President jumped the shark when he put his nose in this matter that should be held locally. You'd think he would've learned his lesson at the Beer Summit when he jumped to conclusions and uttered the "acted stupidly" comment.


The jackass went so far as to NOT bash on the New Black Panthers.
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7:36 p.m. EST, March 26, 2012|
By Rene Stutzman, Orlando Sentinel




"Police: Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him with one blow then began hammering his head. ...

With a single punch, Trayvon Martin decked the Neighborhood Watch volunteer who eventually shot and killed the unarmed 17-year-old, then Trayvon climbed on top of George Zimmerman and slammed his head into the sidewalk, leaving him bloody and battered, law-enforcement authorities told the Orlando Sentinel.

That is the account Zimmerman gave police, and much of it has been corroborated by witnesses, authorities say. There have been no reports that a witness saw the initial punch Zimmerman told police about.

Zimmerman has not spoken publicly about what happened Feb. 26. But that night, and in later meetings, he described and re-enacted for police what he says took place.

In his version of events, Zimmerman had turned around and was walking back to his SUV when Trayvon approached him from behind, the two exchanged words and then Trayvon punched him in the nose, sending him to the ground, and began beating him.

Zimmerman told police he shot the teenager in self-defense.

Civil-rights leaders and more than a million other people have demanded Zimmerman's arrest, calling Trayvon a victim of racial profiling and suggesting Zimmerman is a vigilante.

Trayvon was an unarmed black teenager who had committed no crime, they say, who was gunned down while walking back from a 7-Eleven with nothing more sinister than a package of Skittles and can of Arizona iced tea.

Zimmerman's account

This is what the Sentinel has learned about Zimmerman's account to investigators:

He said he was on his way to the grocery store when he spotted Trayvon walking through his gated community.

Trayvon was visiting his father's fiancée, who lived there. He had been suspended from school in Miami after being found with an empty marijuana baggie. Miami schools have a zero-tolerance policy for drug possession. ..."

_______________________________________________________________________________________________

I have also seen in another report/article that Zimmerman claims the voice on the tape screeming for help is his, not Trayvon's...
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Yeah...this fits their MO Robert.

Jump to conclusions before ALL the facts are on the table.

They're despicable humans that are race baiting carpetbaggers looking for the next "victim" they can leech onto.

Give it a break.

Really.


They want it to explode. I refuse to give people like them any credibility whatsoever. Reverends...no they're not. Point out in what Bible they're reading from where it states to make a fast buck off others tragedy? Off an entire gimmick of race baiting? Where's the message of Peace?

Not there. They are NOT men of God. They're cretins of Greed.
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rfenst wrote:
Trayvon was an unarmed black teenager who had committed no crime, they say, who was gunned down while walking back from a 7-Eleven with nothing more sinister than a package of Skittles and can of Arizona iced tea.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBbTIGNnwjU


STAY AWAY FROM THESE CANS!!!



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wheelrite wrote:
Florida is a Sh$Thole...



So...when can we put you down for your reservations?
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Related – Meet The Real Trayvon Martin, Part One: Evidence Emerges He Was A Drug Dealer And Gang Banger

http://patdollard.com/2012/03/was-trayvon-martin-a-drug-dealing-gangbanger/

Excerpted from MiamiHerald – SANFORD — Miami Gardens teenager Trayvon Martin was suspended from school in October in an incident in which he was found in possession of women’s jewelry and a screwdriver that a schools security staffer described as a “burglary tool,” The Miami Herald has learned.

Trayvon, who claimed that an unnamed friend had given him the jewelry, was not disciplined because of the discovery, but was instead suspended for graffiti, according to a Miami-Dade Schools Police report obtained by The Miami Herald.

A lawyer for the dead teen’s family acknowledged Trayvon had been suspended for graffiti, but said the family knew nothing about the jewelry and the screwdriver, calling the information in the report an attempt to “demonize” the youth.

According to the report, on Oct. 21 staffers monitoring a security camera at Dr. Michael M. Krop Senior High School spotted Trayvon and two other students writing “W.T.F.,” an acronym for “What the f—,” on a hallway locker, according to schools police. The security employee, who knew Trayvon, confronted the teen and looked through his bag for the graffiti marker.

Trayvon’s backpack contained 12 pieces of jewelry, in addition to a watch and a large flathead screwdriver, according to the report, which described the screwdriver as a burglary tool.

Trayvon was asked if the jewelry, which was mostly women’s rings and earrings, belonged to his family or a girlfriend.

“Martin replied it’s not mine. A friend gave it to me,” according to the report. Trayvon declined to name the friend.

School police impounded the jewelry and sent photos of the items to detectives at Miami-Dade police for further investigation.

“Martin was suspended, warned and dismissed for the graffiti,” according to the report prepared by Miami-Dade Schools Police.

That suspension was followed four months later by another one, in February, in which Trayvon was caught with an empty plastic bag with traces of marijuana in it, the boy’s family’s attorney has confirmed. A schools police report obtained by The Miami Herald specifies two items: a bag with marijuana residue and a “marijuana pipe.”




This still doesn't mean he should've been shot and killed. All of the facts aren't out there yet. Here's who those "pillars" are defending. They're acting stupidly.
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Yeah...this fits their MO Robert.

Jump to conclusions before ALL the facts are on the table.

They're despicable humans that are race baiting carpetbaggers looking for the next "victim" they can leech onto.

Give it a break.

Really.


They want it to explode. I refuse to give people like them any credibility whatsoever. Reverends...no they're not. Point out in what Bible they're reading from where it states to make a fast buck off others tragedy? Off an entire gimmick of race baiting? Where's the message of Peace?

Not there. They are NOT men of God. They're cretins of Greed.



Well said Dr.........well said. Those two Bastards travel the US as "The official spokesman for the black community" doing nothing more than inciting racial tension and violence. This is indeed a very sad incident where a young man lost his life, and unfortunately these things happen far too regularly. However it IS something that should be dealt with locally and without throwing the race card out there.
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http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/dpp/news/local_news/new-black-panther-leader-arrested-after-pawning-gun-201203


What IS Eric Holder doing?
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TMCTLT wrote:
Well said Dr.........well said. Those two Bastards travel the US as "The official spokesman for the black community" doing nothing more than inciting racial tension and violence. This is indeed a very sad incident where a young man lost his life, and unfortunately these things happen far too regularly. However it IS something that should be dealt with locally and without throwing the race card out there.




Saddest part of it all is that Jesse Jackson was one of MLK's inner circle.

Talk about a twisted message.

Delivery IS everything.
FuzzNJ Offline
#49 Posted:
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Don't throw the race card?

In attempting to defend Zimmerman the right is throwing the race 'card' all over the damn place. More prejiduce and racism than Zimmerman showed that night is being shown by those defending him using these stereotypes.
Just read this thread. People are attempting to make the kid look like a scary violent gangsta wearing a hoodie, on drugs, selling drugs and stalking the neighborhood looking for trouble. There is no evidence that is the case and saying so, by calling on stereotypes is playing the race card just as much as Sharpton et al are being accused of. Even if the guy was a killer on the loose, which he was not, Zimmerman had no way of knowing any of that. He was just going on there's another black guy walking the street. He has called 911 over 40 times about the same sh*t.

Now, even if the kid was attacking him, he was standing his ground. It's 7 pm, dark or getting dark, a person is merely walking down the street in an area where he is staying and has the right to be. A man in a car follows him around the neighborhood. His friend on the phone tells him to run when he tells her about it. He walks faster. Zimmerman gets out of his car and follows him on foot while talking to 911. They say we don't need you to do that. He does anyway while wearing his gun on his side in a holster. Even as a middle aged white man, I'd be worried for my safety, I don't care what the dude looks like, how brown or white he is. If I could get away, I will. If I can't, I will fight. Simple as that. I expect the rest of the folks here would do the same. Expecting a kid to walk up to a guy with a gun who is following him around to stop and ask him who or what he is is completely nuts. Zimmerman's state of mind at the time is being analyzed and defended, but what about Martin's state of mind? He was more than likely in fear for his safety and possibly his life too. Zimmerman's defenders don't even consider that. Why not?

Zimmerman starting the altercation by his actions. If you were in your home and you saw someone stalking around and looking at you through windows I know people here would defend the homeowner's right to defend himself. Hell, conservatives applauded Joe Horn and he wasn't even in danger. He left safety and went outside to confront people breaking into a neighbor's house and shot them dead. There wasn't even a self defense issue. I would expect the same principle would apply to Martin. But instead we get a black guys are scary and dangerous defense. You simply can't start an altercation, get beat up and shoot in self defense.

It's these racial stereotypes that are fanning the flames of those pissed that Zimmerman wasn't arrested at all, not the people pointing out the obvious injustice.

"Many conservatives these days urge us to make an "optimistic" assessment of the racial situation. At the same time, they refuse to see the pernicious racism that persists. That blindness does not justify optimism. Legitimate optimism comes from facing the problems squarely and working to overcome the insidious subtleties of bigotry that still abide in the land." David Shipler

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#50 Posted:
Joined: 06-16-2009
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Just a wag here, but I'll bet that that plenty of dirt is gonna come out that this kid who got shot is in reality a scumbag punk who was up to no good.

Time will tell. And Jesse and Al will cash in regardless.


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