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low humidity finally making me worry
solly Offline
#1 Posted:
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RH in my house the last couple of months has been in the high 30's to low 40's. I have a 300 ct desktop and 2 100 ct desktops as well as a large coolidore for boxes. All are down to 58-59 RH except for the 300 which I open every day and it will drop to 54-55 easy enough. I have been using the humi-care jars with the blue beads but I think its time to invest in the heartfelt beads. I did a forum search and everything I read was helpful. I am leaning toward the 65% RH beads. Any thoughts? Also for those of you who use them, would you recommend the tubes or other containers they sell...or would you just go with the beads and bags then plop em in a tupperware?
TIGERCDW Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 09-17-2009
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Buy the bulk beads and pantyhose.

Make your own bags.

TIGER
frankj1 Offline
#3 Posted:
Joined: 02-08-2007
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do you live in a cold part of the country? it is relative humidity, don't forget.

most important info is...how are they smoking?
dstieger Offline
#4 Posted:
Joined: 06-22-2007
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TIGERCDW wrote:
Buy the bulk beads and pantyhose.

Make your own bags.

TIGER


This.
99cobra2881 Offline
#5 Posted:
Joined: 11-19-2013
Posts: 2,472
I use 65 rh boveda packs and just got a digital hygrometer. Turns out my big humidor is hovering around 60 RH. I think during these dry winter months I'm going to have to try to get some 69 rh boveda packs. My analog hygrometer read 65 rh. I'm recalibrating it now.

I also used some clear masking tape and blocked off 1/2 the hvac duct that was blowing down towards my humidor. my furnace does not add humidity, would be nice if it did.
solly Offline
#6 Posted:
Joined: 06-01-2014
Posts: 81
Good thinking with the pantyhose...thanks.

To frank...I dunno what the humidity is outside...I live in maine....Its dry inside my house is all I know...high 30's. To answer what I agree is the important thing....almost all my smokes are smoking perfectly well. I am of the opinion that 70% is too high for many, causing burn issues. I have found that I prefer low to mid 60's in my humidors. I did have a problem with the last 3 Nirvanas I smoked. Wrapper wants to leave....and the last one completely abandoned ship. Cameroon I guess.
Hillbillyjosh770 Offline
#7 Posted:
Joined: 02-09-2014
Posts: 2,999
Ran into this issue, gets some beads.
Bring your RH back up. They will be fine.
They smoked like champs.

Less is better than more.
frankj1 Offline
#8 Posted:
Joined: 02-08-2007
Posts: 44,219
solly wrote:
Good thinking with the pantyhose...thanks.

To frank...I dunno what the humidity is outside...I live in maine....Its dry inside my house is all I know...high 30's. To answer what I agree is the important thing....almost all my smokes are smoking perfectly well. I am of the opinion that 70% is too high for many, causing burn issues. I have found that I prefer low to mid 60's in my humidors. I did have a problem with the last 3 Nirvanas I smoked. Wrapper wants to leave....and the last one completely abandoned ship. Cameroon I guess.

Oh, OK. I'm near Boston, check the hygrometer less often as I get older. It is harder to keep constant in the cold winter climate, especially with dry forced warm air heat. Last check most of mine were at 62, so if they dipped a little lower, no big deal. I'd like around 62 year round actually.
Buckwheat Offline
#9 Posted:
Joined: 04-15-2004
Posts: 12,251
It's my understanding that most if not all of the Humi-Care products are propylene glycol based which I've never found very affective in stabilizing humidity levels in a humidor. Once I started using Heartfelt beads I've never had a problem with humidity control. The boveda packs are good but expensive. I used their calibration kit and an adjustable hygrometer. I also put two or three hygrometers in my tower humidor. I use beads in it even though it has an active humidification system. You can skip this pantyhose and just spread the beads in a small tupperware container. Pantyhose are a good idea if you are trying to stay on the cheap. YMMV Herfing
solly Offline
#10 Posted:
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Posts: 81
Thank you Buckwheat.
stinger88 Offline
#11 Posted:
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I vote for the pantyhose. I had the Tupperware in there first but as soon a I lifted the humidor crooked, they dumped all over the place.
Instead of buying pantyhose, just go to a shoe store a grab a few of the "trying shoes on" nylons. They are free and are a decent size for the humidor.
99cobra2881 Offline
#12 Posted:
Joined: 11-19-2013
Posts: 2,472
stinger88 wrote:
Instead of buying pantyhose, just go to a shoe store a grab a few of the "trying shoes on" nylons.


Used or new?
cacman Offline
#13 Posted:
Joined: 07-03-2010
Posts: 12,216
Buy Beads.

Just say NO to kitty litter.
wheelrite Offline
#14 Posted:
Joined: 11-01-2006
Posts: 50,119
solly wrote:
RH in my house the last couple of months has been in the high 30's to low 40's. I have a 300 ct desktop and 2 100 ct desktops as well as a large coolidore for boxes. All are down to 58-59 RH except for the 300 which I open every day and it will drop to 54-55 easy enough. I have been using the humi-care jars with the blue beads but I think its time to invest in the heartfelt beads. I did a forum search and everything I read was helpful. I am leaning toward the 65% RH beads. Any thoughts? Also for those of you who use them, would you recommend the tubes or other containers they sell...or would you just go with the beads and bags then plop em in a tupperware?



Get the Fark out of here....

You are obviously missing a chromosome,,,

who let this Forrest Gump in here ?


wheel,,
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#15 Posted:
Joined: 11-02-2006
Posts: 121,359
solly wrote:
RH in my house the last couple of months has been in the high 30's to low 40's. I have a 300 ct desktop and 2 100 ct desktops as well as a large coolidore for boxes. All are down to 58-59 RH except for the 300 which I open every day and it will drop to 54-55 easy enough. I have been using the humi-care jars with the blue beads but I think its time to invest in the heartfelt beads. I did a forum search and everything I read was helpful. I am leaning toward the 65% RH beads. Any thoughts? Also for those of you who use them, would you recommend the tubes or other containers they sell...or would you just go with the beads and bags then plop em in a tupperware?



True beads, like HF and HCM, work faster and more efficiently as the exposed area is increased. To illustrate, if you were to pack a volume of beads into a perforated tube the size of a 12oz soda can, it would work more slowly than if you were to spread that same volume of beads out on a cookie sheet / 12 " x 18" baking pan. We're talking minutes versus hours here, to cigars it's all the same, they aren't that sensitive, so whichever container fits better into your humidor will be fine.

Humi-Care aren't really beads, they are chunks of super-absorbent polymer gel. The company has been erroneously referring to them as "beads" for some time now. This is basically similar or possibly even the the same stuff as you can find in the garden isle at most hardware stores as "Water storing crystals", "aquabeads", "hydrosorb gel" etc. It's a fine powder crystal that blows up like 1000x when it absorbs moisture and then shrinks back down as it gives it off. They work, but they are kind of slow and don't do a very good job of absorbing excess humidity from the air. They are much better at releasing humidity.
solly Offline
#16 Posted:
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Posts: 81
Sorry my questions were not up to your standards wheelrite. I had no Idea I was asking a stupid question until you insulted me. I will get right to work looking for that missing chromosome. Meanwhile I will put your arrogant ass on ignore.

Thank you to everyone else for your advice.
frankj1 Offline
#17 Posted:
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Posts: 44,219
Wheel = twink?
aschwndt Offline
#18 Posted:
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wheelrite wrote:
Get the Fark out of here....

You are obviously missing a chromosome,,,

who let this Forrest Gump in here ?


wheel,,

Glad to see your here to help and not just be a ******....
99cobra2881 Offline
#19 Posted:
Joined: 11-19-2013
Posts: 2,472
Haha wheels insult got a noob to join just to post a reply.

Welcome to cbid.
tonygraz Offline
#20 Posted:
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Getting back to humidity, or rather RELATIVE humidity, shouldn't the RH be higher when the temperature is below 70 and lower when the temp. goes over 70 ? Anyone have a chart of what the RH should be.

I remember a couple of minutes of panic when a cooler went to 86 RH and the temp. was under 55. Probably a whisker high, but not a thing to panic over.
I'm Batman Offline
#21 Posted:
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aschwndt wrote:
Glad to see your here to help and not just be a ******....


hahahaha awesome first post bub. You'll fit right in.
wheelrite Offline
#22 Posted:
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aschwndt wrote:
Glad to see your here to help and not just be a ******....


Well done !!!!!!!!!!!

Applause

wheel,
Buckwheat Offline
#23 Posted:
Joined: 04-15-2004
Posts: 12,251
tonygraz wrote:
Getting back to humidity, or rather RELATIVE humidity, shouldn't the RH be higher when the temperature is below 70 and lower when the temp. goes over 70 ? Anyone have a chart of what the RH should be.

I remember a couple of minutes of panic when a cooler went to 86 RH and the temp. was under 55. Probably a whisker high, but not a thing to panic over.


Here is a link with good RH information. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relative_humidity

Don't let the whole Partial Pressure thing throw you off.
Here is what the word Relative means in RH. "Relative humidity depends on temperature and the pressure of the system of interest."
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