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Needing some storage advice...
SmokeMonkey Offline
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As my inventory has grown (now 2 humidors that hold around 70 a piece, a winador and 2 tupperdors), I've been thinking of moving them to our first floor "basement" which is really the garage a guest room, media room and bathroom. The potential issue is that it tends to stay very cool there, and particularly in winter - somewhere around 60°.

That seems a little too cool to me, particularly if I'm taking a cigar straight from the humidor to the outside, which might be 20-25° warmer. To my mind, that may lead to wrapper issues.

So can anyone give me some thoughts on this?

Thanks in advance.
madspackler Offline
#2 Posted:
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At the cooler temperature you will need to consider a lower RH as it will be difficult if not impossible to maintain 65-70% humidity at 60 degrees. Transitioning cigars between environments should be done into a separate humidor to a few days prior to attempting to smoke them. It should not be as bad as smoking an over humidified cigar where the wrapper is likely to split. At lower humidity the cigar may seem dry and less flavorful.
dstieger Offline
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Put them in the basement. 60 will be good for them. RH won't be a problem. Or is it moisture content, you should be concerned with? That reminds me...whatever happened to JTokash?

If you're taking them straight out to 95 degrees in the sun to smoke, you could have a problem. Just keep a desktop upstairs as your ready service locker and rotate your on-deck cigars into it.
tonygraz Offline
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I keep a humidor in my garage as that's my usual exit to the yard. The temperature is closer to what's outdoors and I have very few problems with wrappers splitting when I smoke from that humidor, which is constantly refilled with what cigars I'll be smoking soon.
riverdog Offline
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dstieger wrote:
That reminds me...whatever happened to JTokash?
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JT is in Los Alamos workin for the man every night and day.
t33bone Offline
#6 Posted:
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60 degrees just keep humidity up closer at 70 to 72
danmdevries Offline
#7 Posted:
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My basement is 54-64 year round.

Never an issue. 65% Bovedas and Heartfelt beads
collectorchris Offline
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Along the lines of this topic, what would be a good container aside from buying another humidor for long term storage of overstock? I have seen a lot of talk of cool-a-dors, anyone here recommend use of these? I do have a bunch of Spanish cedar from boxes I have collected to line something like this, or could store in boxes. What says the vets here?
SmokeMonkey Offline
#9 Posted:
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First - thanks, everyone. My mind is a little more at ease over it.

Chris - I would go with the cooler. Cheap, easy and highly effective.
bgz Offline
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collectorchris wrote:
Along the lines of this topic, what would be a good container aside from buying another humidor for long term storage of overstock? I have seen a lot of talk of cool-a-dors, anyone here recommend use of these? I do have a bunch of Spanish cedar from boxes I have collected to line something like this, or could store in boxes. What says the vets here?



Just throw all those empty boxes in there till you fill the the thing up. Don't make it harder than it needs to be.
collectorchris Offline
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Thanks, made sense to me, but didn't know if there were any consideration I think about before I did it.
05busa Offline
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Gurkha explosion in these situations
mountainman Offline
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collectorchris wrote:
Thanks, made sense to me, but didn't know if there were any consideration to think about before I did it.


your on the right track, you don't need to do anything overly complicated. why line the box when you can store them in it, just an extra layer of protection from damage and humidity swings when opening. just make sure you have the humidification where you want it and enjoying them.
tamapatom Offline
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Never did a coolidor due to difficulty accessing ones on the bottom...not an issue if you never need to rummage to find something. I like flat stackable cheap tupperware...stack cigars 2 deep...can get a pair for 6 bucks. I put a boveda pack in each one and keep them on a shelf. Not as good for insulation of course. A non operating refrigerator in the garage makes a nice insulated shelving system.......if you need climate control maybe a winador?
zody Offline
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mountainman wrote:
your on the right track, you don't need to do anything overly complicated. why line the box when you can store them in it, just an extra layer of protection from damage and humidity swings when opening. just make sure you have the humidification where you want it and enjoying them.


+1^

If you have the space kepping them in the box inside humidification is your best protection. Better for aging too.
tamapatom Offline
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tonygraz wrote:
I keep a humidor in my garage as that's my usual exit to the yard. The temperature is closer to what's outdoors and I have very few problems with wrappers splitting when I smoke from that humidor, which is constantly refilled with what cigars I'll be smoking soon.

My garage humidor has too high a humidity and I cant leave them there very long or cigars get too moist.....I actually try to take old boveda packs that are dried out and put them in there to draw out excess moisture. After a while the bovedas are plump and soft again and can be used inside as originally intended . I keep rotating these and so far none have ever died yet.
dstieger Offline
#17 Posted:
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collectorchris wrote:
Along the lines of this topic, what would be a good container aside from buying another humidor for long term storage of overstock? I have seen a lot of talk of cool-a-dors, anyone here recommend use of these? I do have a bunch of Spanish cedar from boxes I have collected to line something like this, or could store in boxes. What says the vets here?


As TG has said many times, get a cooler, put humidification in it, put cigars inside, close the cooler.

Or, as the late, great, King of Underbids posted:

http://www.cigarbid.com/...2/A-Couple-Of-My-Coolers
gummy jones Offline
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ziploc makes a "weather tight" tupperware that is clear plastic (making viewing the hygrometer very simple) and comes in various sizes (including ~the size of a smaller cooler). they are slightly less bulky than a cooler but have a fantastic seal and are stackable. my walmart carries them and the size i prefer is <$10. throw some spanish cedar on the bottom and a boveda or two and you are good to go!
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gummy jones wrote:
ziploc makes a "weather tight" tupperware that is clear plastic (making viewing the hygrometer very simple) and comes in various sizes (including ~the size of a smaller cooler). they are slightly less bulky than a cooler but have a fantastic seal and are stackable. my walmart carries them and the size i prefer is <$10. throw some spanish cedar on the bottom and a boveda or two and you are good to go!
Stackable and clear - the way to go if you have stable good temp.
Abrignac Offline
#20 Posted:
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Before I sourced my tower off craigslist I used one of those $6.88 72 quart clear plastic storage containers. I was able to put about 800 cigars in it. I also had a Treasure Dome that held about 250 cigars.

For the storage container, I bought 2# of Heartfelt 65% breads and split them between two Tupperware containers. I cut large holes in the Tupperware lids. Nothing else was needed. It worked well for about 2 years.
SmokeMonkey Offline
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Abrignac wrote:
It worked well for about 2 years.


What happened after the 2 years? Inquiring minds want to know!
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SmokeMonkey wrote:
What happened after the 2 years? Inquiring minds want to know!


obama
SmokeMonkey Offline
#23 Posted:
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It's always his fault.
Abrignac Offline
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SmokeMonkey wrote:
What happened after the 2 years? Inquiring minds want to know!



Re-read the post youngster. A standup humidor that holds approximately 3000 cigars is considered a tower.

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