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Genesis Habano
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danmdevries Offline
#1 Posted: Fri, Jul 22 2016, 9:11 AM EST
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Long story short, I've been doing inventory reduction. Quit buying when I had to add overflow storage. Finally got enough room to empty out all my overflow, and still room to spare.

Bought 7 fivers of these when they appeared on here. Tried one and it was garbage, so I threw all of them in a 30 cal ammo can with a few SC blocks, and 2 Boveda packs. Figured if it was like the mainline Genesis, time would do well.

Year and a few months later, still not among my favorites. But, it's a bit better. Reasonable yard or mooch gar.

A bit of spice and leather, but a faint hint of plastic on finish. Retrohale gives a unexpected peppery bite, and a notable bit of citrus notes. It's also packing a lot more of a punch than I expected.

Gonna take a while to get through the 33 remaining, hopefully they continue to improve. If anyone really likes these, I'll be happy to send some your way. Otherwise, they'll be picked at slowly until gone.
chazbo Offline
#2 Posted: Fri, Jul 22 2016, 10:05 AM EST
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Why would you buy 35 cigars not knowing if you like themd'oh!
ZRX1200 Offline
#3 Posted: Fri, Jul 22 2016, 10:20 AM EST
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Look at what the bid prices did with the original Genisis.
KingoftheCove Offline
#4 Posted: Fri, Jul 22 2016, 11:03 AM EST
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danmdevries wrote:
Long story short, I've been doing inventory reduction. Quit buying when I had to add overflow storage. Finally got enough room to empty out all my overflow, and still room to spare.

Bought 7 fivers of these when they appeared on here. Tried one and it was garbage, so I threw all of them in a 30 cal ammo can with a few SC blocks, and 2 Boveda packs. Figured if it was like the mainline Genesis, time would do well.

Year and a few months later, still not among my favorites. But, it's a bit better. Reasonable yard or mooch gar.

A bit of spice and leather, but a faint hint of plastic on finish. Retrohale gives a unexpected peppery bite, and a notable bit of citrus notes. It's also packing a lot more of a punch than I expected.

Gonna take a while to get through the 33 remaining, hopefully they continue to improve. If anyone really likes these, I'll be happy to send some your way. Otherwise, they'll be picked at slowly until gone.

Think
I still haven't broke into my box............maybe I'll just let them sit even longer!
KingoftheCove Offline
#5 Posted: Fri, Jul 22 2016, 11:23 AM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Look at what the bid prices did with the original Genisis.

Later releases simply were not as good as the early ones.
I smoked an older (not OR) Muy Bueso the other day, nice smooth cigar, somewhat one dimensional, but perfect burn and draw, with nice flavor.
I musta got lucky with my original release Toros, because they were really fantastic cigars. No other Genesis vitola of those early releases were nearly as good. They had a strong sweet citrus prelight aroma, perfect burn and draw, with several different flavors popping in and out.
Too bad I smoked them all. ...... d'oh!
tonygraz Offline
#6 Posted: Fri, Jul 22 2016, 4:42 PM EST
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Smoked a a6 month old Genesis Muy Bueso the other day. Better that the other Genesis I've tried. Decided against trying the Habano.
tamapatom Offline
#7 Posted: Sat, Jul 23 2016, 6:58 AM EST
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Been sitting on a fiver since the reports have been coming out that the newer ones are subpar. I guess we can all play a game of Rip Van Bueso........and see how that does but it's sounding like it may not be worth wait.
SmokeMonkey Offline
#8 Posted: Sat, Jul 23 2016, 8:03 AM EST
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The couple of Habanos I smoked were subpar and the Genesis has been hit or miss, with more hits. I got an OR Olanchan10 count box at a steal and am waiting a while to open it.
99cobra2881 Offline
#9 Posted: Sun, Jul 24 2016, 9:39 AM EST
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I got a box of robs when these were pretty new but after some of the hype died off.

Not good rott < 2 months, they maybe getting better as the one I had recently I thought was better then the first. They've got over a year and a half rest on them now.
shaun341 Offline
#10 Posted: Sun, Jul 24 2016, 11:12 AM EST
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The Dinkbat gifted me a 5er of these and while I appreciate the gesture and the generosity they were not for me. Think the RB line hit its peak when first introduced and has since gone downhill.
midmofan Offline
#11 Posted: Sun, Jul 24 2016, 11:17 AM EST
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Ditto some of the above.I got a some Habanos not long after they first came out and really liked them even ROTT. Later on when saw a sale thought about getting a box or two but saw people reporting that quality had gone down. Just got a fiver and, sure enough, ROTT not so good. Let the remainder rest for a while and that helped a LOT but still not quite as good as the first ones.

Wondering if the first batch of Habanos had been aged for a nice long time before release and then, after the initial popularity, they just started to send them ASAP to market.
Stinkdyr Offline
#12 Posted: Mon, Jul 25 2016, 11:54 AM EST
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What youze fokes are discuverinz, is dat Habano wraps kinda herk the wanger.

fog
danmdevries Offline
#13 Posted: Mon, Jul 25 2016, 11:56 AM EST
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Stinkdyr wrote:
What youze fokes are discuverinz, is dat Habano wraps kinda herk the wanger.

fog


Hm. Is that a good or bad thing?

JZBdano Offline
#14 Posted: Wed, Jul 27 2016, 1:35 AM EST
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KingoftheCove wrote:
Think
I still haven't broke into my box............maybe I'll just let them sit even longer!

My box smelled like paint thinner so I took them out and store them in a zip lock bag. They taste much better after a couple months out of the box.
KingoftheCove Offline
#15 Posted: Wed, Jul 27 2016, 6:52 AM EST
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JZBdano wrote:
My box smelled like paint thinner so I took them out and store them in a zip lock bag. They taste much better after a couple months out of the box.

Yep......I check all boxes before they go in a cooler.
Once had a MF box that had a slight lacqeur odor.........bummer........stored them in a singles tray.
jespear Offline
#16 Posted: Wed, Jul 27 2016, 6:53 AM EST
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KingoftheCove wrote:
Later releases simply were not as good as the early ones.
I smoked an older (not OR) Muy Bueso the other day, nice smooth cigar, somewhat one dimensional, but perfect burn and draw, with nice flavor.
I musta got lucky with my original release Toros, because they were really fantastic cigars. No other Genesis vitola of those early releases were nearly as good. They had a strong sweet citrus prelight aroma, perfect burn and draw, with several different flavors popping in and out.
Too bad I smoked them all. ...... d'oh!


Unfortunately, this happens.
OR's are GREAT cigars. You get hooked. Manufacturer changes the blend. Disappointment abounds.

Two cigars that are prime examples of this are:

PADILLA Miami 8&11 (Pepin rolled)
I think they re-issued it a half dozen or so times, after DPG left.
The latest incarnation is good, but NO WHERE NEAR the OR. (Same goes for the 1932 . . . just ask hnixon!)

LA PERLA HABANA Morado (Purple band)
OR was a GREAT (and inexpensive) cigar (Thank you dpnewell for introducing me to these.)
Re-issue is pure trash.

Feel free to add to the list, if you are so inclined.

jes
tonygraz Offline
#17 Posted: Wed, Jul 27 2016, 7:25 AM EST
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Posts: 20,247
Add:

Most internet Gurkha's that have been around a while.
danmdevries Offline
#18 Posted: Wed, Jul 27 2016, 7:37 AM EST
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^ are the shpo Gurkhas better?
KingoftheCove Offline
#19 Posted: Wed, Jul 27 2016, 8:09 AM EST
Joined: 10-08-2011
Posts: 7,632
jespear wrote:
Unfortunately, this happens.
OR's are GREAT cigars. You get hooked. Manufacturer changes the blend. Disappointment abounds.

Two cigars that are prime examples of this are:

PADILLA Miami 8&11 (Pepin rolled)
I think they re-issued it a half dozen or so times, after DPG left.
The latest incarnation is good, but NO WHERE NEAR the OR. (Same goes for the 1932 . . . just ask hnixon!)

LA PERLA HABANA Morado (Purple band)
OR was a GREAT (and inexpensive) cigar (Thank you dpnewell for introducing me to these.)
Re-issue is pure trash.

Feel free to add to the list, if you are so inclined.

jes


Careful............you might end up in a dark place, handcuffed on a stone floor, with a spiked high heel grinding into your groin and a hideous shrill laughter echoing in your ears while you try to scream through your ball gag.
RIP DP..........
tamapatom Offline
#20 Posted: Wed, Jul 27 2016, 8:52 AM EST
Joined: 03-19-2015
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KingoftheCove wrote:
Careful............you might end up in a dark place, handcuffed on a stone floor, with a spiked high heel grinding into your groin and a hideous shrill laughter echoing in your ears while you try to scream through your ball gag.
RIP DP..........

It happens.
tonygraz Offline
#21 Posted: Wed, Jul 27 2016, 4:34 PM EST
Joined: 08-11-2008
Posts: 20,247
danmdevries wrote:
^ are the shpo Gurkhas better?


Never bought one in a shpo.
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