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An interesting article...
victor809 Offline
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Discusses the propaganda and demagoguery methods implemented by trump and their similarities to Sukorovs... also provides a very interesting suggestion of the impact of all this fake news.

https://thinkprogress.org/when-everything-is-a-lie-power-is-the-only-truth-1e641751d150#.an0lwrr5o
tailgater Offline
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What is Sukorovs?

dstieger Offline
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Surkov? The devil perched on Putin's shoulder....the one that keeps saying "**** her. **** her brains out. Squeeze her tits. You know she wants it."
dstieger Offline
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From above link:
"To men like Surkov, that is exactly as it should be. Government policy should not be set through democratic oversight; instead, the government should “manage” democracy, ensuring that people can express themselves without having any influence over the machinations of the state. According to a 2011 open Democracy article by Richard Sakwa, a professor of Russian and European politics at the University of Kent, Surkov is “considered the main architect of what is colloquially known as ‘managed democracy,’ the administrative management of party and electoral politics.”

“Surkov’s philosophy is that there is no real freedom in the world, and that all democracies are managed democracies, so the key to success is to influence people, to give them the illusion that they are free, whereas in fact they are managed,” writes Sakwa. “In his view, the only freedom is ‘artistic freedom.’”"

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Not so startling to me....I wouldn't be surprised to have read that philosophy attributed to any career politician here in DC
ZRX1200 Offline
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"Fake news"

By thinkprogress...ya got me
victor809 Offline
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True.

But the author identified some differences of approach from previous politicians and our current most divisive president elect ever. Primarily the difference between a lie, and a complete destruction of the ability to parse reality from noise....
victor809 Offline
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For dsteiger... not z, whose completely embraced the idea that there is no truth and the world is reality TV
Speyside Offline
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An interesting read Victor.
ZRX1200 Offline
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LMMFAO

https://www.google.com/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4014386/amp/Washington-Post-appends-story-accusing-Russia-spreading-fake-news-saying-does-not-vouch-experts-findings.html
teedubbya Offline
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That's a weird link.
jjanecka Offline
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Sukarov sounds like he'd make a good Democrat.
teedubbya Offline
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Isn't that Barry's original last name.
jjanecka Offline
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I thought it was Hussain
Gene363 Offline
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victor809 wrote:
Discusses the propaganda and demagoguery methods implemented by trump and their similarities to Sukorovs... also provides a very interesting suggestion of the impact of all this fake news.

https://thinkprogress.org/when-everything-is-a-lie-power-is-the-only-truth-1e641751d150#.an0lwrr5o



And, Trump still is going to be our next President. Herfing
Brewha Offline
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Prolly in name only. It' not like he has "The Right Stuff".....



Huh, I made a funny.....
Speyside Offline
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To soon.
Brewha Offline
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Us liberals are soooo insensitive...
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