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Speyside Offline
#51 Posted:
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Tony, I imagine everyone here was horrified by the murder of the 9 African Americans in church in a prayer meeting. Also I imagine everyone here wants justice for those 9 human beings.
Burner02 Offline
#52 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
But the mainstram press is ignoring it and stuff! So is obama.





This may have played 18-24 hours ago, not so much now.


Surely this was not a **** stirring attempt.
Burner02 Offline
#53 Posted:
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tonygraz wrote:
Typical racist outrage, but little or no empathy for 9 shot dead in a prayer meeting. The right wingers look hard for some incident (and some times even make chit up) and then portray it as the norm.



Does not dignify a response.
teedubbya Offline
#54 Posted:
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Burner02 wrote:
This may have played 18-24 hours ago, not so much now.


Surely this was not a **** stirring attempt.


I literally was watching the story again on tv while reading your post

that said you are right about one thing... news cycles have short attention spans... a fact that Trump recognizes and uses masterfully
Mr. Jones Offline
#55 Posted:
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Posts: 19,359
^^^ yea... Like

Make America Great Again

It'$ Gonna Be YUUUUUGE

There will be jobs...LIKE...SOOOO MANY JOBS

THE WINDMILL's...they should be stopped...they
Kill soooo many birds, EAGLES, birds...very BAD...
They spin...spin around..and drive you crazy...

DRAIN THE SWAMP

PUT HER IN JAIL

BRING THE JOBS BACK

EL DUCHE HAD GREAT QUOTES (he actually said this, I saw it)
I LIKE GREAT QUOTES ( He said this too after being called to the Matt by Chris Cumo about him repeating QUOTES by EL DUCHE
.."better to live one day as a Lion.. than a lifetime as a SHEEP(?)" < not totally sure about last animal in actual quote
opelmanta1900 Offline
#56 Posted:
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tonygraz wrote:
Typical racist outrage, but little or no empathy for 9 shot dead in a prayer meeting. The right wingers look hard for some incident (and some times even make chit up) and then portray it as the norm.

You're just as dumb as Carl... little or no empathy? You do realize the state is currently going about the legal way of murdering the person who carried out these acts right? And "rightwingers" aren't up in arms about it... talk about making sh*t up...

Hey, whatever happened to your stupid little numbers you used to put up after your posts? Pantsuits overwhelming defeat put an end to that?
tailgater Offline
#57 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Z is using the term which is intended to be insulting "sjw" which does not stand for single Jewish woman... social justice warrior.

At some point a group within our country decided that to call someone this is insulting. .. I think that use of the term as an insult is more telling than anything.


Actually, being insulted by it is much more telling.
Like when people are offended when they're called liberal.
No one who is conservative is offended when called conservative.
Why are liberals so offended?
You know, other than the fact that being offended by everything is part of the very definition.

tailgater Offline
#58 Posted:
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Hate crime.
The term must be subjective.

In Lexington Massachusetts a 49 year old man was arrested for repeatedly throwing a banana peel into a black neighbors yard. It's being called a Hate Crime on local news.

In Chicago a mentally challenged man is beat and tortured on live facebook video because he was "white and a Trump supporter", but police are reluctant to call it a hate crime.





victor809 Offline
#59 Posted:
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Keep pushing that false complaint tail.

It's been called a hate crime almost from the start and all the kids are being charged with a hate crime.

Why pretend that it isn't? It makes no sense to push this false narrative.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#60 Posted:
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Actually Victor, the police chief specifically said within the first hour that there was no indication that this crime was driven by race or politics...
DrafterX Offline
#61 Posted:
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I'd bet there won't be a Hate Crime in da plea bargain... Mellow
opelmanta1900 Offline
#62 Posted:
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Johnson said authorities currently don't believe the crime was politically motivated, despite the disparaging remarks about Trump.

"I think some of it is just stupidity, people just ranting about something that they think might make a headline," Johnson said. "I don't think that at this point we have anything concrete to really point us in that direction, but we'll keep investigating and we'll let the facts guide us on how this concludes."
DrafterX Offline
#63 Posted:
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well, if Hillary and Obama hadn't made Trump sound so evil this prolly woulda never happened... Not talking

Thanks Obama.. Mad
victor809 Offline
#64 Posted:
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You're right opel, the first police response was to avoid calling it a hate crime. But that changed very quickly. I don't see an issue there. By the time I saw the news it was labeled a hate crime.

I don't see an issue. The initial police response was probably to avoid calling it something that is hard to walk back... I think they do this in most cases.
tailgater Offline
#65 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
You're right opel, the first police response was to avoid calling it a hate crime. But that changed very quickly. I don't see an issue there. By the time I saw the news it was labeled a hate crime.

I don't see an issue. The initial police response was probably to avoid calling it something that is hard to walk back... I think they do this in most cases.


Yeah.
If they don't act stupidly, of course.


Are you serious on this one?
Local news broadcasts here in Boston were openly questioning the Chicago police refusal to label it a hate crime.

I don't like the hate crime label, but you're missing the point BIG TIME on this.
Banana peel littering vs. torture.
and you try to nitpick about the semantics and how they can't "take it back".





victor809 Offline
#66 Posted:
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Except it was called a hate crime, very quickly.

Is there a time frame in which you think something must be called a hate crime or there's a clear double standard? 1 hour? 3 hours? what?....

I heard about the event, checked cnn, and it said the kids were being charged with hate crime.That's quick enough for me.
ZRX1200 Offline
#67 Posted:
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Barry and his DOJ has set that precedent. Well in one direction......
opelmanta1900 Offline
#68 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Except it was called a hate crime, very quickly.

Is there a time frame in which you think something must be called a hate crime or there's a clear double standard? 1 hour? 3 hours? what?....

I heard about the event, checked cnn, and it said the kids were being charged with hate crime.That's quick enough for me.


I think the issue is that anyone from the pd had anything to say one way or the other... don't call it a hate crime right out of the gate, fine... but why come out and specifically say that nothing indicates it is racially or politically motivated when the bulk of the evidence upfront downright disputes that statement?
victor809 Offline
#69 Posted:
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Is the complaint about the media or the police?

Some here are complaining that this isnt' being "blasted on every channel as a hate crime" (it was)
Others are complaining that the police were reluctant to initially call it a hate crime (they eventually did, and I would say very quickly... kid was found tuesday, and by thursday the police were charging them with hate crimes....)

It's a victim mentality....
DrafterX Offline
#70 Posted:
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I really hate that they can't find CROS that fast.... Sad
delta1 Offline
#71 Posted:
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The victim and a couple of his attackers were friends before the incident, so that made the police reluctant to label this a hate crime. Having a previous "friendly relationship" means there are many other possible motives to assault someone besides the victim's race. Not sure why the police ultimately concluded it was, and charged a hate crime...possibly some outside influence...
DrafterX Offline
#72 Posted:
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The kid prolly said somethin about their mama. .. Mellow
tailgater Offline
#73 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Except it was called a hate crime, very quickly.

.


Without ME assigning a suitable timeframe, all I can do is use the local media (Boston Fox25 and Boston ABC WCVB) as a barometer.
They both questioned WHY chicago cops refused to label it a hate crime.
They both reported how Lexington MA cops immediately labeled a banana peel as a hate crime.

Same media outlets (in a liberal state).
Cops in liberal cities (albeit very different size).

The only obvious difference is the color of the victim versus the perp.

In other words, the questions are rhetorical.

victor809 Offline
#74 Posted:
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Or, as delta pointed out in another thread it could be because the victim and the suspects knew each other and we're supposedly friends prior to the incident...?

Seems to me something like that might be a rational reason to not immediately label something... but you keep demanding those immediate hate crime judgements.

I mean... the only difference MUST be the color of the victim and perp... you know... except for the idea of a consistent (albeit stupid and mostly impotent) harassment vs a single violent incident from a group that had previously been friendly with the victim.

That must be those black people's plan... to be friends with us before posting our future beatings on Facebook live so that the crime isn't immediately labeled as a hate crime until a day or so has passed! It's so devious! Someone should warn cacman.
Speyside Offline
#75 Posted:
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Speaking of cacman, he hasn't posted in a bit. I wonder if a hate crime got him?
victor809 Offline
#76 Posted:
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According to tail we won't hear it on the news for a couple days. You know.... because cacman is white.
tonygraz Offline
#77 Posted:
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That's not what I heard.
Mithrandir Offline
#78 Posted:
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the rev jesse jackson had a difficult time staying on topic today when interviewed on cnn. also couldn't bring himself to say hate crime. He kept generalizing that these evil acts are happenng across the country and should not be tolerated. he is truly a great politician.
burnem2 Offline
#79 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:

That must be those black people's plan... to be friends with us before posting our future beatings on Facebook live so that the crime isn't immediately labeled as a hate crime until a day or so has passed! It's so devious!


Ability to plan sounds about right. I didn't see them string more than 3-4 coherent words together in their video which they posted on FB?!?!?! GENIUS!
Abrignac Offline
#80 Posted:
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It seems the judge wasn't impressed by the 4. She is quoted as saying they are all menaces to themselves as well as society. She denied bond for all four. We can only hope she stays the course.
tailgater Offline
#81 Posted:
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Speyside wrote:
Speaking of cacman, he hasn't posted in a bit. I wonder if a hate crime got him?


Not if he had to be friends with them first.
tailgater Offline
#82 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
According to tail we won't hear it on the news for a couple days. You know.... because cacman is white.


Cacman is white?
Do his neighbors know?


Speyside Offline
#83 Posted:
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They are all leaving for higher ground.
frankj1 Offline
#84 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
Without ME assigning a suitable timeframe, all I can do is use the local media (Boston Fox25 and Boston ABC WCVB) as a barometer.
They both questioned WHY chicago cops refused to label it a hate crime.
They both reported how Lexington MA cops immediately labeled a banana peel as a hate crime.

Same media outlets (in a liberal state).
Cops in liberal cities (albeit very different size).

The only obvious difference is the color of the victim versus the perp.

In other words, the questions are rhetorical.


you see the news on banana peel boy?

tailgater Offline
#85 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
you see the news on banana peel boy?



When the cops ransacked his (parents) house the news reported 11 guns.
Today their saying 86 guns.
Living in his bedroom at age 49.

He may be racist, but he's also a whack job who belongs behind bars.

frankj1 Offline
#86 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
When the cops ransacked his (parents) house the news reported 11 guns.
Today their saying 86 guns.
Living in his bedroom at age 49.

He may be racist, but he's also a whack job who belongs behind bars.


living in his parent's house with parts of it only accessible to him...wonder if his folks really had no idea what was going on or if they were scared chitless.

80 something guns, tons of ammo, no licenses allowing for any, Nazi stuff etc.
Banana boy had been tossing the peels for a year, he was being watched for sure. Luckily his "hate crime" was limited to a level well below the mass murder tragedy that could have easily happened in the future.

Can't buy that his is a "hate crime" cuz of liberal MA politics.
Stinkdyr Offline
#87 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Keep pushing that false complaint tail.

It's been called a hate crime almost from the start and all the kids are being charged with a hate crime.

Why pretend that it isn't? It makes no sense to push this false narrative.




Grab em by da welfare check.......then tear it up.

Beer
TMCTLT Offline
#88 Posted:
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Abrignac wrote:
It seems the judge wasn't impressed by the 4. She is quoted as saying they are all menaces to themselves as well as society. She denied bond for all four. We can only hope she stays the course.



+1 I hope she / they throw the book @ these animals
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