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paulie970 Offline
#1 Posted:
Joined: 05-08-2014
Posts: 1
Whats going on with the prices? I see idiots bidding on a lot of items much more than You can by them on Cigars international or its some kind of computer trick?
gummy jones Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 07-06-2015
Posts: 7,969
I'm not an idiot
I'm a winner
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#3 Posted:
Joined: 11-02-2006
Posts: 121,359
paulie970 wrote:
Whats going on with the prices? I see idiots bidding on a lot of items much more than You can by them on Cigars international or its some kind of computer trick?


Cigars International? Who are they?
Zigarro Offline
#4 Posted:
Joined: 02-19-2015
Posts: 17
paulie970 wrote:
Whats going on with the prices? I see idiots bidding on a lot of items much more than You can by them on Cigars international or its some kind of computer trick?

We are falling for C.I.'s marketing ploy; offer fewer lots in "Quickies & Five Packs and we sheep get desperate enough to up our bids. Nothing mysterious about it.
Abrignac Offline
#5 Posted:
Joined: 02-24-2012
Posts: 17,216
paulie970 wrote:
Whats going on with the prices? I see idiots bidding on a lot of items much more than You can by them on Cigars international or its some kind of computer trick?



I see idiots re-posting this same thread as well.
shaun341 Offline
#6 Posted:
Joined: 08-02-2012
Posts: 8,826
If you want your cigars to be delivered you must over pay, obviously somebody has not kept up with the posts on here.
elRopo Offline
#7 Posted:
Joined: 02-17-2014
Posts: 905
Pay more get less....make America great again!
24132413 Offline
#8 Posted:
Joined: 01-25-2017
Posts: 555
PRICES ARE HORRIBLE HERE ANYMORE. MAY AS WELL GO TO THE OTHER TWO CIGAR AUCTION SITES OR JUST BUY FROM C.I.!
Zigarro Offline
#9 Posted:
Joined: 02-19-2015
Posts: 17
24132413 wrote:
PRICES ARE HORRIBLE HERE ANYMORE. MAY AS WELL GO TO THE OTHER TWO CIGAR AUCTION SITES OR JUST BUY FROM C.I.!

Precisely what they want you to do. This whole thing is a crass commercial ploy to create demand among the sheep and drive up prices. Thanks to so many smug sheep who'll defend their 'drivers', they get away with this transparent grab. Prior to all this, I spent an average of $230 a month. Now, it runs less than $90 and if these guys don't return to the former method of operation, I'll be buying from cigar companies other than C.I and their satellite~ Cbid.
ZRX1200 Offline
#10 Posted:
Joined: 07-08-2007
Posts: 60,473
You don't have to be lonely, at farmers only dotcom
SteveS Offline
#11 Posted:
Joined: 01-13-2002
Posts: 8,751
If I had a dollar for every overbidding thread I've seen here, I'd have enough money to afford to do some overbidding myself ...
KingoftheCove Offline
#12 Posted:
Joined: 10-08-2011
Posts: 7,600
Ziggy,
Yes, prices are higher than I've ever seen them.............so what.
The alternative is all the etailers simply saying "no mas" to auctions.
Then what?
Be happy that there still are a few deals out there, and score them while you can.
Who knows what the cigar biz will be like when the regs kick in.............might be better..........or.....a lot worse.
And that date is approaching fast.
elRopo Offline
#13 Posted:
Joined: 02-17-2014
Posts: 905
Its becoming less likely every day that I will ever buy anything here again.
Most of what I did buy here was yard gars and usually for around $20 or less.
All but one have since been discontinued and the one that remains is pushing $40 for a mazo now.
For that same money you can buy a ten pack of really good cigars elsewhere and get fast free shipping to boot.

I do enjoy the forum here, its fun and sometimes even worthwhile ;-)
Herfing
octavup Offline
#14 Posted:
Joined: 12-25-2010
Posts: 57
I, too, have been looking and buying elsewhere. The prices are approaching California's retail prices, even with our high taxes. In addition to the higher prices, the variety and availability has been greatly reduced. It's looking more and more like a manufactured "software crisis". As I have said before, the oil companies have been pulling this stunt with great success for years. They declare a refinery "shutdown for maintenance". Immediately inventories go way down and the pump prices go way up. What a business model.
kaszkiet Offline
#15 Posted:
Joined: 05-05-2015
Posts: 163
Loosing is a sign of weakness.
Zigarro Offline
#16 Posted:
Joined: 02-19-2015
Posts: 17
???
hnixon12 Offline
#17 Posted:
Joined: 04-20-2009
Posts: 2,873
no matter to me, cuz i luz my Cubans!!
bassman45 Offline
#18 Posted:
Joined: 07-05-2009
Posts: 4,082
SteveS wrote:
If I had a dollar for every overbidding thread I've seen here, I'd have enough money to afford to do some overbidding myself ...


Lold'oh!
tonygraz Offline
#19 Posted:
Joined: 08-11-2008
Posts: 20,173
Just spent a week bidding on CBID and won one item of merchandise and one box/mazo of cigars after bidding on hundreds of auction items. Not worth the time and effort right now when I can buy cigars for about the same or less elsewhere. Some items are now going for twice as much or more than they did in December and January. So far no hiccups on the order processing and hopefully I'll get the shipment on Saturday as usual.
dstieger Offline
#20 Posted:
Joined: 06-22-2007
Posts: 10,889
You don't even need to bid to overbid... check out the QB price
http://www.cigarbid.com/...-project-robusto-5-pack/
midmofan Offline
#21 Posted:
Joined: 04-25-2014
Posts: 1,108
Well, since this is the overbid/understock/pricing/complaint thread de jure, I shall post my 2 cents.

The real problem is not the crazy over-bids. Those people are either drunk or clueless and that will take care of itself. The big issue is all the many, many, bids that are right at or even just a hair below regular online pricing. That means a lack of bargains and that means its not worth the time, trouble, and uncertainty of bidding when you can just get what you want right away.

The real death of a bidding site is not one person paying $50 for a single Gurkha, its too many people paying right at retail for sticks available elsewhere.
KingoftheCove Offline
#22 Posted:
Joined: 10-08-2011
Posts: 7,600
midmofan wrote:
Well, since this is the overbid/understock/pricing/complaint thread de jure, I shall post my 2 cents.

The real problem is not the crazy over-bids. Those people are either drunk or clueless and that will take care of itself. The big issue is all the many, many, bids that are right at or even just a hair below regular online pricing. That means a lack of bargains and that means its not worth the time, trouble, and uncertainty of bidding when you can just get what you want right away.

The real death of a bidding site is not one person paying $50 for a single Gurkha, its too many people paying right at retail for sticks available elsewhere.

Well, I think ther are several other factors contributing to the price hikes.
One of them simply being higher starting points, here, and other places.

On another note, anyone else notice the pricing program the other place has in place for many popular items.
I've been watching it for a few months now.
"Fiver A" opens at $18, and there's 5 lots.
If all lots get bids, the next time Fiver A comes up, the starting point is higher, $19 or $20.
If all lots get bids, it goes up again.
At some point, people refuse to bid. After a week or two of no bids, the price drops back down, and the process starts over.
Pretty slick.
submerj Offline
#23 Posted:
Joined: 07-17-2000
Posts: 2
I agree that the bidding prices are much higher than just a few months ago. I have been using cbid for years and have seen a modest increase in the bidding prices over the years. But recently it has skyrocketed. Every few months I bid on a couple of hundred lots and typically walk away winning $250.00 worth of sticks. This was the case 4 months ago when I got my last order. Last week I did the same and won NOTHING! Winning bids seem to be about 50% higher than just a few months ago. I assume some retailers have begun using this site to get their stock and are buying up everything at higher prices. I will start looking elsewhere for my cigars.
bgz Offline
#24 Posted:
Joined: 07-29-2014
Posts: 13,023
Either it's a good deal or it's not.

Just looked at some prices of things I've bought here in the past, they are up higher than the point than I'm willing to pay for them, and that's ok... It just means I won't be buying them :)

As far as the higher starting prices like KotC mentioned, I actually don't mind them as long as it's a decent deal. I know on another site with higher starting prices, if I'm in buy mode, and it's a decent deal, I'll bid. It's more like a standard shopping cart at that point.

I don't need DP Newell level pricing to buy, but I do look for the best deal I can get at the moment when I'm buying.

I'll probably wait till after summer before I go back on cigar buy mode anyway, so hopefully by then it's calmed down a bit.
Mr. Jones Offline
#25 Posted:
Joined: 06-12-2005
Posts: 19,357
I can't say enough GREAT THINGS about
CIGARBID....

AND...
BELIEVE IT OR NOT?

The C-BID FORUM HAS PROBABLY HAS PLAYED
A BIG PART ...in ME N.O.T. GETTING
MURDERED BY THE FBI-SSG DIVISION...

because my whole true story is on here ( and could be pulled up by any BLIND MONKEY to burn the FBI-SSG's azzes ) and it's been an essential part of my WORLDWIDE DOCUMENTED
"ESSURANCE PLAN" against these COWARD shadow government killers....

Now , back to bidding....
It is very very different than 2005 to 2014....
THEN
2015 to 2016...the tides were turning...
2017 ...well it an exercise in futility and
Way overpriced...

Not C-bids doing at all...

Just too many rich people found out about this site and dont stop bidding at 75%-50% off retail like we all used to...

Ohhhh, the good old cheap bidding dayzzzz are gone forever...
I'm afraid
namadio Offline
#26 Posted:
Joined: 11-24-2014
Posts: 1,621
the cigar prices is too damn high
midmofan Offline
#27 Posted:
Joined: 04-25-2014
Posts: 1,108
I also stocked up before the meltdown. 1 100 count humi, 1 50 count humi and a coolador with about 400. I can survive the summer just sniping here and there :)
midmofan Offline
#28 Posted:
Joined: 04-25-2014
Posts: 1,108
I also stocked up before the meltdown. 1 100 count humi, 1 50 count humi and a coolador with about 400. I can survive the summer just sniping here and there :)
tamapatom Offline
#29 Posted:
Joined: 03-19-2015
Posts: 7,381
Mr. Jones wrote:
I can't say enough GREAT THINGS about
CIGARBID....

AND...
BELIEVE IT OR NOT?

The C-BID FORUM HAS PROBABLY HAS PLAYED
A BIG PART ...in ME N.O.T. GETTING
MURDERED BY THE FBI-SSG DIVISION...

because my whole true story is on here ( and could be pulled up by any BLIND MONKEY to burn the FBI-SSG's azzes ) and it's been an essential part of my WORLDWIDE DOCUMENTED
"ESSURANCE PLAN" against these COWARD shadow government killers....

Now , back to bidding....
It is very very different than 2005 to 2014....
THEN
2015 to 2016...the tides were turning...
2017 ...well it an exercise in futility and
Way overpriced...

Not C-bids doing at all...

Just too many rich people found out about this site and dont stop bidding at 75%-50% off retail like we all used to...

Ohhhh, the good old cheap bidding dayzzzz are gone forever...
I'm afraid

I hear the SSG discount program is ending too.
Salmoneye Offline
#30 Posted:
Joined: 01-18-2011
Posts: 163
namadio wrote:
the cigar prices is too damn high


Wha'cha gonna do with your pants on the ground...




CrownN7eveN Offline
#31 Posted:
Joined: 03-14-2015
Posts: 1
Are y'all talking about this?http://www.cigarbid.com/auction/lot/2553392/boveda-84-60g-humi-pack-one-packet/

Lol
Zigarro Offline
#32 Posted:
Joined: 02-19-2015
Posts: 17
What we're talking about is the fact that there are fewer lots in 'quickies' & 'fivers' now~ than there were before. We're talking about the "engineered" higher bids in those categories~ than before. In effect, we're talking about how easily we 'sheep' are led about by those we used to trust...
frankj1 Offline
#33 Posted:
Joined: 02-08-2007
Posts: 44,211
submerj wrote:
I agree that the bidding prices are much higher than just a few months ago. I have been using cbid for years and have seen a modest increase in the bidding prices over the years. But recently it has skyrocketed. Every few months I bid on a couple of hundred lots and typically walk away winning $250.00 worth of sticks. This was the case 4 months ago when I got my last order. Last week I did the same and won NOTHING! Winning bids seem to be about 50% higher than just a few months ago. I assume some retailers have begun using this site to get their stock and are buying up everything at higher prices. I will start looking elsewhere for my cigars.

never mind this thread...

I am totally enthralled to see you are probably in the top ten longest tenured members here...yet have posted approximately every 10 years.

So, are you a locust?
KingoftheCove Offline
#34 Posted:
Joined: 10-08-2011
Posts: 7,600
frankj1 wrote:
never mind this thread...

I am totally enthralled to see you are probably in the top ten longest tenured members here...yet have posted approximately every 10 years.

So, are you a locust?

I thought you was like a genius?

Look at his handle.........Submerj...Think

Not a locust.....something that comes out of the water, or swamp......every 10 years.
SwampMan!

http://williamjevning.com/americas-abominable-swamp-man/
fliermartin Offline
#35 Posted:
Joined: 08-27-2015
Posts: 21
I've been buying my sticks on cbids for the last year or so and have loved it but now I just put an order in at cigars international because they had a better deal than I could get here. I got stick to fall back on but hope bidding goes back too normal soon.
doeshin Offline
#36 Posted:
Joined: 01-03-2015
Posts: 227
Just my two cents. I had a meltdown after the fda thing and stocked up during the fall last year. Back then there were about 3500 auction items at all times. Now there is barely around 1300 after the cbid Tango Uniform on their system. There are a 1/3 of the items listed as supposed to before. So obviously its gonna cost more to get items. I still love cbid but where it was %80 - %90 of my purchases being fron cbid now its about %25 . Still i feel like i am ahead from years of cbid shopping. So still very thankful.

This might actually be a good thing actually since i get to save some money and burn thru the stash.

WSC Offline
#37 Posted:
Joined: 10-19-2015
Posts: 48
kaszkiet wrote:
Loosing is a sign of weakness.


So is misspelling.
hnixon12 Offline
#38 Posted:
Joined: 04-20-2009
Posts: 2,873
WSC wrote:
So is misspelling.


wow, a noob bashing a noob...cool
QMPASH Offline
#39 Posted:
Joined: 03-15-2011
Posts: 897
No real man loses a bid. Ya gotta have bawls to bid.
Transplant Offline
#40 Posted:
Joined: 09-22-2016
Posts: 37
Cbid ain't as good as it once was. True enough. What that should do is get you to explore other alternatives. I have and what you'll find is that there's nothing out there that is as good as what Cbid once was, but there are great deals to be had.

And don't ignore Cbid. Depending on what you want and how well you are at playing the game, Cbid still should be on your radar. I tend to buy cigars once a month and probably use Cbid every 3rd or 4th month. For certain cigars, Cbid still can't be beat.
jjanecka Offline
#41 Posted:
Joined: 12-08-2015
Posts: 4,334
I haven't really bought much at all this year amd don't really plan to unless prices take a nose dive.
MACS Offline
#42 Posted:
Joined: 02-26-2004
Posts: 79,584
paulie970 wrote:
Whats going on with the prices? I see idiots bidding on a lot of items much more than You can by them on Cigars international or its some kind of computer trick?


I find it ironic when an idiot calls someone an idiot.
95BSharpshooter Offline
#43 Posted:
Joined: 01-03-2016
Posts: 37
namadio wrote:
the cigar prices is too damn high


In 2009, La Gloria Cubana Serie R #5 was a box of 24 or $96 ($4 a piece for you math challenged out there).

Today, $136 and $7 each ($35 for fiver) on auction..

No, it isn't Federal Obama tobacco taxes.
Hillbillyjosh770 Offline
#44 Posted:
Joined: 02-09-2014
Posts: 2,999
gummy jones wrote:
I'm not an idiot
I'm a winner


Bourbon out the nose
Ruby Offline
#45 Posted:
Joined: 02-24-2016
Posts: 116
If they would just start producing cigars in China we would get them dirt cheap.
Zigarro Offline
#46 Posted:
Joined: 02-19-2015
Posts: 17
MACS wrote:
I find it ironic when an idiot calls someone an idiot.

YOU would.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#47 Posted:
Joined: 01-10-2012
Posts: 13,954
Ruby wrote:
If they would just start producing cigars in China we would get them dirt cheap.

They're called 5V's...
chazbo Offline
#48 Posted:
Joined: 01-21-2007
Posts: 8,159
I can't believe people are bidding much higher on lots since the meltdown several months ago. I really think they have fixed the lots to a minimum price the company is willing to lose. Phantom biddersram27bat
chazbo Offline
#49 Posted:
Joined: 01-21-2007
Posts: 8,159
Since the meltdown winners are paying way more than before. Do you believe more folks are bidding or is something going on. I would always win several lots throughout the week but now using the same bidding numbers, nothingThink
bs_kwaj Offline
#50 Posted:
Joined: 02-13-2006
Posts: 5,214

"Prices are too damn high!"

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