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Trump Cures Voter Fraud...
DrafterX Offline
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President Trump plans to sign an executive order on Thursday to launch a commission to review alleged voter fraud, a White House official confirmed to Fox News.

The “Presidential Commission on Election Integrity” would review alleged voter fraud and suppression.

Film at 11.... Mellow
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A Trump Commission on 'anything' Integrity is pretty funny, actually

Do you think he'll ask Comey to chair it? Or, maybe Hillary?

What if the commission finds out that so many 'fake voters' voted for Trump, that he might have lost?

I'm sure glad that the administration has fixed all the important stuff so they now have time for this
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just setting this up will have an impact.... Mellow
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DrafterX wrote:
just setting this up will have an effect.... Mellow



why? think Putin is scared and might get careless?
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Still no proof Putin had anything to do with anything.... but if everybody keeps saying it it's supposed to come true... Mellow
Speyside Offline
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Idiot orange at his best.
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Dave, what happened with the recounts?

He gained votes.....not mine . .....but he gained votes.

He is the Troller in Chief. Hilarious
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Dunno....don't recall hearing anything coming of the recounts that led me to believe there was statistical significance to any differences.

And, I don't actually believe there was enough fraud to sway any national election. Even if you can point to a decision decided by slimmest of margins, I'd bet that any true fraud could be found to have been offset by fraud from the 'other side'. I just don't believe that it is a big enough problem to warrant this attention at this time. I'm mostly amused by the apparent fragility of Trump's ego and would love for a Trump initiative to uncover election data that runs counter to 'Trump Reality'.
DrafterX Offline
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so, it's better to listen to people complain about nothing being done..?? Huh
Speyside Offline
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This is an attempt to deflect the Russian scandal and the Comey embarrassment.
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ya, he prolly wrote this up right after breakfas... Mellow
ZRX1200 Offline
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What Russian scandal......WHAT DID RUSSIA DO? Specifically
DrafterX Offline
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I think they found some illegal classified documents on Hillary's illegal server and gave them to the Wikileakers... Mellow
Speyside Offline
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I'll rephrase just for you, the Flynn scandal, he lied under oath. Or maybe Sessions Russian involvement, or maybe Kushner Russian involvement. Tillerson is troublesome, but above board.
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ZRX1200 wrote:
What Russian scandal......WHAT DID RUSSIA DO? Specifically


Russians did several things that have been revealed by US intelligence agencies.


1) hacked Hillary's, Podesta's and DNC emails and gave them to Wikileaks, now considered a non-govt hostile intelligence agency. Info from emails was released methodically to cast negative light on her, Podesta and the Dems. Some of the info released that was supposedly real was in fact fake

2) developed botnets, designed to divert internet users looking for info on Hillary to websites they established that contained only negative info, some of which were fake/false stories

3) put "trolls" in place to disparage Hillary in political social media discussion sites

4) published numerous false news stories about Hillary and posted them on many political websites


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections



This is what the intelligence people have revealed so far, primarily a disinformation campaign, but they have an on-going investigation. America must demand a complete and thorough investigation into any country's effort to interfere with our elections, especially one like Russia, that is hostile to our interests. We need to know what they did so that we can prevent future attacks.

Betcha France is going to delve into their last elections that Russia tried to influence at the last minute, trying to take advantage of a campaign moratorium rule to disparage Macron before election day. They may even ask the US for help.

Outside influence in our elections should be a non-partisan issue. I would hope that if Clinton had won and there was Chinese influence to help her, that the left would be supportive of the same sort of investigation that they are insisting we complete now, and that the right would be demanding.
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If only Hillary had been using a secured gubment server instead of her illegal one in da basement.... Mellow
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delta1 wrote:
America must demand a complete and thorough investigation into any country's effort to interfere with our elections ...

Israel would no doubt be demanding a complete and thorough investigation into the US effort to interfere with THEIR recent elections, but Barry is gone and Hillary lost, putting a far less hostile president in Washington ...
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Speyside wrote:
I'll rephrase just for you, the Flynn scandal, he lied under oath. Or maybe Sessions Russian involvement, or maybe Kushner Russian involvement. Tillerson is troublesome, but above board.

in addition to what Al wrote, the long list of Team Trump members and associates with deep and long connections in Russia needs to be clarified. It is just beginning to be uncovered.

perhaps tax returns would help too?
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I forgot Carter Page meeting with Russians, my bad.
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the list is staggering. yet zero concern from the right.
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DrafterX wrote:
Still no proof Putin had anything to do with anything.... but if everybody keeps saying it it's supposed to come true... Mellow


Doesn't matter. If you're a liberal then just wanting it to be true is all that matters. ; - )

Beer
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#21

it is no better for the right to spend 8 years praying for birther proof nonsense and more, than for the left to root for Russian Trump issues.

Both R & L should be rooting for the truth, painful to their cause or not. This needs to be investigated.
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^^^ voter fraud commission...
BIG WASTE OF MONEY....
+ plus...the CHEETO IS GOING TO BANKRUPT THE U.S. TREASURY WITH NEW SPECIAL PROSECUTERS AND CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATIONS....

CHRIST ALMIGHTY... THERE ARE OUTCRYS EVERYDAY FOR A NEW INVESTIGATION FOR MINOR INFRACTIONS...THAT MEAN NOTHING...

SAVE YOUR MONEY CHEETO...
YOU'LL NEED IT FOR THE UPCOMING
"COINTELPRO II CONGRESSIONAL HEARINGS"
Late this year...

^^a voter fraud commission is AN EVEN BIGGER WASTE THAN ASSIGNING
SECRET SERVICE SECURITY DETAILS
TO HIS TWO "adult?" SPAWN SONS...

TWEEDLE DEE
AND
TWEEDLE DUM
Speyside Offline
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Jonesy, the more things change the more they remain the same. You know that.
tonygraz Offline
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I heard Drafter was on the Russian payroll during the campaign.


















and he still may be.
delta1 Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
#21

it is no better for the right to spend 8 years praying for birther proof nonsense and more, than for the left to root for Russian Trump issues.

Both R & L should be rooting for the truth, painful to their cause or not. This needs to be investigated.


that's like genius...
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True. .true. .. but it wasn't just the birth certificate. . Did he claim being a foreigner to get grants to go to college..?? No transcripts were ever revealed. .. if you asked you were racist. . Mellow
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DrafterX wrote:
True. .true. .. but it wasn't just the birth certificate. . Did he claim being a foreigner to get grants to go to college..?? No transcripts were ever revealed. .. if you asked you were racist. . Mellow

there are mostly rumors and whispers about his college, and none involve the security of the nation. He definitely was employed as a Constitutional Law Prof.

I don't think Trump & Co conspired to fix the election with Russia, I think we ar elearning Russia has been trying (with some success) to destabilize our process.

No, when it comes to Russia, my bigger worries are their endless ties and loops back to people now in key positions, people who were in key positions, people who were almost in key positions, friends, family, advisers, appointees...with influence and money trails. Trails that can buy influence.

And then there is the trail of Dead Russian bodies.
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DrafterX wrote:
True. .true. .. but it wasn't just the birth certificate. . Did he claim being a foreigner to get grants to go to college..?? No transcripts were ever revealed. .. if you asked you were racist. . Mellow


How about some transcripts for Trump. He says he was the at the top of his class, but no awards show in Wharton's record. He also says he got a master's there, but never enrolled in graduate school.

He will lie - and you will buy it.
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No way man. ..Not talking
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DrafterX wrote:
True. .true. .. but it wasn't just the birth certificate. . Did he claim being a foreigner to get grants to go to college..?? No transcripts were ever revealed. .. if you asked you were racist. . Mellow


That accusation makes no sense. International students are cash-cows for US colleges and Universities...our schools are so superior to those in most other nations that there are long lists of foreigners who are applying here, even to JC's...

Tuition for international students is so much higher ( 5-10x in most cases) than for US residents that there would be no financial benefit to declare citizenship from another country, even if one qualifies for aid, that out of pocket expenses for foreign students exceed that of citizens...plus that you have to have a student visa...so he'd have to pony that up too...

smh...that's as ridiculous as the birther crap...but a significant number of my fellow Americans believed it, and still do...smh

pssst...someone tell Alex Jones that he knows Obama has a tail...
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Well, that's what I heard... Mellow
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Trump announced he has appointed the most successful voter fraud hunter, Kris Kobach, to co-chair his voter integrity commission... during Kobach's tenure as SoS in Kansas, advocating for and passing more voter "protection laws," Kansas has convicted 6 people of voter fraud ...HUUUUGE numbers, right?


Kobach said the commission is not out to prove Trump's claim of massive voter fraud during the last election... of course not (he knows it can't be found)...dude needs one more K to be legit...


This is Trump's counterpoint to the Russian thing...if the Russians helped Trump, voter fraud helped Hillary...
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delta1 wrote:
Russians did several things that has been alleged, yet have shown no proof, by US intelligence agencies.


1) hacked (absolutely no way to prove who actually did it) Hillary's, Podesta's and DNC emails and gave them to Wikileaks, now considered a non-govt hostile intelligence agency. Info from emails was released methodically to cast negative light on her, Podesta and the Dems. Some of the info released that was supposedly real was in fact fake

2) developed botnets, (once again, absolutely no way to prove who actually did it)designed to divert internet users looking for info on Hillary to websites they established that contained only negative info, some of which were fake/false stories

3) put "trolls" in place to disparage Hillary in political social media discussion sites
No proof who actually did this)

4) published numerous false news stories about Hillary and posted them on many political websites
Or this)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections

So an anonymously edited blog is an authoritative source???




This is what the intelligence people have revealed so far, primarily a disinformation campaign, but they have an on-going investigation. America must demand a complete and thorough investigation into any country's effort to interfere with our elections, especially one like Russia, that is hostile to our interests. We need to know what they did so that we can prevent future attacks.

Betcha France is going to delve into their last elections that Russia tried to influence at the last minute, trying to take advantage of a campaign moratorium rule to disparage Macron before election day. They may even ask the US for help.

Outside influence in our elections should be a non-partisan issue. (I'm thinking if we could eliminate insider criminal influence the voting process would be infinitely better)I would hope that if Clinton had won and there was Chinese influence to help her, that the left would be supportive of the same sort of investigation that they are insisting we complete now, and that the right would be demanding.

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can't force a horse to drink...Clapper, Hayden, Comey (among intelligence officials who have made public statements) all agree, with near certainty, that Russians did those things...to various news agencies, Congressional hearings..details have been made public...and that site is just a compendium of source material that has been widely published...but if one is not inclined to believe, one will not look and one will not see...
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Look at it this way Delta, after electing the worst piece of chit they could find, they will defend anything he does no matter what the facts show and despite the damage that will be coming. Just remember that they own it. I remember how they defended Nixon to the very end and some of them still say good
things about him.
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Trump is pretty much impossible to defend alright and IMO, much of the criticism is justified ... BUT, the bottom line is that had he not been elected, we'd have been stuck with Hillary which would have been so much worse in so many ways ...

I could not and did not vote for Trump ... but I'd have voted for my sons bulldog before I'd have voted for Hillary (the dog would have been a better president than Hillary would have) but you cannot imagine my delight when it turned out Shrillary lost ... not sure which was the bigger surprise or greater ecstasy last Nov ... the Cubs win or Hilldogs loss ...
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The commonwealth of Virginia has booted 5,556 self-reported non-citizens off the voter rolls since 2011, the Public Interest Legal Foundation (PILF) announced Monday.

Based on information gathered from three lawsuits, multiple record requests and reviews of voter history files across 133 Virginia jurisdictions, the group says that 1,852 non-citizens cast 7,474 votes before being booted from the rolls.

PILF alleged that state and local officials initially refused to turn over records.

“At the instruction of Governor McAuliffe’s political appointees, local election officials spent countless resources to prevent this information from spilling into the open,” PILF president and general counsel J. Christian Adams said in a statement. “Virginia hid critical information that would have improved election integrity while a political operative-turned-governor vetoed numerous proposals that would’ve prevented alien registration and voting. From NoVa to Norfolk and all urban and rural points in between, alien voters are casting ballots with practically no legal consequences in response.”

“In this election year, aliens must not cast illegal ballots, and if they do they must be prosecuted. Let’s pray that Gov. McAuliffe’s veto pen did not invite a close election tainted by fraud,” Adams added.

Despite allegations of a cover-up, Virginia’s Department of Elections has published a yearly report since 2014 on how many non-citizens were removed from the rolls the previous year. (The 2014 report did not provide a number, however.)

The state canceled 404 voters who declared themselves to be a non-citizen from July 1, 2015 to June 30, 2016, according to the most recent report. It canceled 693 the previous year, and 434 the year before that.

The number of non-citizens who have been booted make up a small percentage of the total 5,529,742 Virginians who were registered to vote in 2016, though statewide and local races have recently been decided by thin margins.


Film at 11.... Mellow
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http://www.richmond.com/opinion/their-opinion/guest-columnists/jason-snead-new-report-shows-widespread-non-citizen-voting-in/article_12827407-f826-5249-b0fc-656bab3629ce.html
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the Dems love the non-citizen vote and court it heavily ...
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I did read about one arrest, a republican woman who voted twice for Trump...maybe in NY? It was back in November.
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frankj1 wrote:
I did read about one arrest, a republican woman who voted twice for Trump...maybe in NY? It was back in November.


I haven't read about a single arrest in the Russian interference... Think
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they were buying influence, not specific votes. That and planting seeds of doubt about our methods among voters...at least that's my theory
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so they weren't actually influencing the FBI to make Hillary more likable and stuff..?? Huh
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frankj1 wrote:
they were buying influence, not specific votes. That and planting seeds of doubt about our methods among voters...at least that's my theory


From what I understand, they hacked Hillary's e-mail, which may not have been so easy to do without that unauthorized server, ya know? Then made the fact her and other democrats rigged the primaries in her favor known to the public, and possibly ran negative ad/propaganda about her via the internet.

Sounds much like what politicians do to each other, no?
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Buying influence, you say? Wait... like lobbyists do? Like big pharma, big oil, and other big companies do?

Well, sh*t! Why didn't you say so!! Gonz
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Sorry Frankie... I may have left the Northeast, but the smart-ass runs down to the core at this point.
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/09/canvassers-for-dem-tied-group-charged-in-voter-registration-fraud-scheme.html

http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/post-tribune/news/ct-indiana-voter-registration-group-charges-20170609-story.html



Thought I'd post two sources to keep it fair and balanced....
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Yah MACS, all that crap should be illegal too.
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Speyside wrote:
Yah MACS, all that crap should be illegal too.


I don't disagree... but we've never had congressional hearings about that, have we?
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