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Spicer's Monday the 15 tH pReSs mEEting
Mr. Jones Offline
#1 Posted:
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Think

The guy finally acted normal
And quite professional this afternoon.

I HEARD it mostly, didn't actually see
MuCh oF iT aT aLL.

Gonz
dstieger Offline
#2 Posted:
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Of course. He's auditioning for his next job...which will be soon, no doubt
gummy jones Offline
#3 Posted:
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I don't believe it
You sound like a paid operative
delta1 Offline
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It was his time away to do his Navy reserve duty, some back to reality time, that straightened him out. I heard that he was so exhilarated to be away from the Trump WH that he was considering signing up for a 6 year tour...

unless the guy you actually saw, Mr. Jones, was Mel McCarthy doing Spicer...
tailgater Offline
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Mel?
You two close?


tonygraz Offline
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I like him better on SNL.
delta1 Offline
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tailgater wrote:
Mel?
You two close?




Ha...nope, but since she's playing a dude, I took the liberty to masculate her name...there may be a few people out there who don't know that a woman is playing that schtick...
gummy jones Offline
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Had no idea snl had an audience outside of seventh graders
delta1 Offline
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those clips have become so notorious that they air on local and national and cable news shows...except possibly Fox
frankj1 Offline
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was this the meeting that only the Russian "press" was allowed into while America's was not?
gummy jones Offline
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So the "news" reports on a leftist comedy show?
Seems impartial enough...
frankj1 Offline
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gummy jones wrote:
So the "news" reports on a leftist comedy show?
Seems impartial enough...

key word: comedy
frankj1 Offline
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but I did not make up the Russian only press conference.
Outrage should be coming from both sides of the aisle.
gummy jones Offline
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I'm not outraged
I glossed over this the other day and didn't give it much more thought:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2017/05/10/no-us-press-wasnt-kept-out-of-trumps-meeting-with-lavrov-while-russian-press-was-let-in-n2325039%3Famp%3Dtrue
frankj1 Offline
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gummy jones wrote:
I'm not outraged
I glossed over this the other day and didn't give it much more thought:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2017/05/10/no-us-press-wasnt-kept-out-of-trumps-meeting-with-lavrov-while-russian-press-was-let-in-n2325039%3Famp%3Dtrue

I think you make my point...

This was the White House's response when I asked whether members of the Russian media were allowed into the meeting:
"On background, our official photographer and their official photographer were present, that's it."
While photos of the meeting were attributed to a state owned Russian "news" agency TASS, which prompted questions about why Russian reporters were let in and U.S. press kept out, keep in mind there is no such thing as an independent press with the Kremlin. Most "news" agencies are propaganda machines controlled by the government. Their "reporters" work for the government, including the official photographer allowed into the meeting.

so what am I missing? The "official photographer" of the White House was the only American representative, no one else from our press.

And the source admits that any official Russian press member is in fact working for the state...

delta1 Offline
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You'da thought the Secret Service would have said something...hope our security people were there keeping an eye on them...if there wasn't secret taping machines in the WH before, as Trump hinted about, there surely are now with Cyrillic script...
fiddler898 Offline
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Oh, good Lord, Spicer and Trump are rank amateurs.
Mr. Jones Offline
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#16 delta1

My sources told me...in code...

That those ROOSKIES...
"the SECURITY AND PRESS"... ALL OPERATIVES...
WERE WANDERING ALL OVER THE WHITE HUT...

the SECRET SERVICE COULD NOT HANDLE IT...

ALL THOSE RED BASTIDS WERE OPERATIVES WITH
12 tH generation devices that they placed all over the white HUT....

It will take weeks...maybe months to find ALL the SHIIT THEY stashed and "dropped" every chance THEY could get.....

ROTO ROOTER WILL HAVE A FULL TIME JOB JUST CHECKING THE exhaust shiit PIPES....
But
NANO BOTS CAN SWIM THRU WATER SUPPLY LINES....Against the flow, water pressure AND IMBED THEMSELVES ANYWHERE THEY WANT...

WE have a major SECURITY situation
Goin' down and morons trying to find them with no success....

Those dumb *****s shoulda hired me years ago...
My intelligence and knowledge is wasted painting houses for $8.00 an hour...
Oh well, I offered those idiots my skills and expertise
But no response...yet...

They know my cell # though...
frankj1 Offline
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I'll give ya $10/hour to paint mine...

I keed I keed
tonygraz Offline
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I was pretty sure they had your number, Jones.
Mr. Jones Offline
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#19 ^^^

Thanks Frank....

But that daily commute will cost $100 each way in gas and leave only 2? Hours to paint each day.
gummy jones Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
I'll give ya $10/hour to paint mine...

I keed I keed


i will paint you like one of my french girls
frankj1 Offline
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gummy jones wrote:
i will paint you like one of my french girls

sassy!
dstieger Offline
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Disclaimer: This is from a newspaper. The paper doesn't claim it is news. This is an opinion piece.
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WaPo Opinion Writer Dana Milbank:
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"Trump has sucked the lifeblood out of Sean Spicer"

I’m often asked if I think President Trump will make it through all four years of his term.

My stock reply: The better question is whether we will survive the next four years.

It wouldn’t surprise me at all if he does make it to 2020 without impeachment, or the 25th Amendment, blocking his path. Trump has a long history of walking out of disasters unscathed. It’s those around him — the Sean Spicers of the world — who are destroyed.

Alas, poor Spicer! I knew him well.

He was one of the top Republican flacks in town, affable and quick-witted, always happy to dish with reporters off the record. I liked him. I still like him — or at least that Spicer I knew before he answered Donald Trump’s call.

The Spicer who strode into the White House briefing room Monday afternoon I did not recognize. He scanned the room, unsmiling. He furtively checked his watch. He recited a long opening statement carefully and flatly, as if reading from a science textbook. And he had absolutely nothing to say.

President Trump’s hint that he taped conversations with Jim Comey? “I was very clear that the president would have nothing further on that last week.”

The Russia probe generally? “The president’s position’s been very clear.”

And everything else: “I think I’ve made it very clear. . . . He made it very clear. . . . It’s been made very clear. . . . I made it clear. . . . The FBI director and others have made it very clear.”

Spicer was studiously dour and clearly wasn’t enjoying himself. He was puffy, pinched and pale. And little wonder: Trump has sucked the lifeblood out of him.

The president turned him into a national punchline on his first day on the job, forcing him to provide “alternative facts” about the inauguration. On Friday morning, Trump confirmed for the world what was widely suspected: Spicer doesn’t really know what’s going on. “As a very active President with lots of things happening, it is not possible for my surrogates to stand at podium with perfect accuracy!” Trump proclaimed.

The next day, “Saturday Night Live” did its latest sendup of the hapless spokesman. This time Melissa McCarthy’s Spicer hid in the bushes, attacked reporters and rode his motorized podium in search of Trump, vainly seeking assurance that he hadn’t been lied to. Alec Baldwin’s Trump tried to grope and kiss McCarthy’s Spicer.

“Is this like ‘The Godfather’ when you kiss me and no one ever sees me again?” the Spicer character asked.

“Yes,” the Trump character answered.

It’s a matter of time until life imitates sketch. Washington is abuzz with speculation about when Spicer will be shown the door, but it doesn’t really matter. His credibility, and his dignity, have already been defenestrated.

He will soon be added to the heap of unhappy people who cast their lots with Trump and were repaid with misery.

Trump entities have filed for bankruptcy protection six times. Investors, lenders and workers took hits — and Trump moved on. Trump was caught on tape boasting to Billy Bush about sexually assaulting women — and Billy Bush lost his job. Corey Lewandowski and Paul Manafort poured themselves into Trump’s campaign and were unceremoniously dumped.

The carnage has increased since Trump came to Washington. National security adviser Michael Flynn is out and potentially in legal trouble. The FBI’s Comey arguably handed Trump the election — and learned of his dismissal from TV. Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein tarnished his sterling reputation in just two weeks.

As my Post colleague Abby Phillip documented, Vice President Pence has been “unflagging in his loyalty,” only to be made “the public face of official narratives that turn out to be misleading or false.” Trump humiliated Steve Bannon by publicly downplaying their association. Trump repaid House Speaker Paul Ryan’s loyalty by winking at calls for Ryan’s ouster. Attempts to defend Trump by aides Reince Priebus and Kellyanne Conway and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell have left them sounding clownish.

Trump takes what he can from each of his aides and allies and then moves on. It would seem that time is near for Spicer, who started Monday’s briefing 45 minutes late and, in the minutes that followed, avoided answering questions by saying no fewer than 22 times how very “clear” he or Trump had been about this or that. NATO: “Very clear.” Tax reform: “His plan has been pretty clear.” Secret tapes: “The president’s made it clear.” Where there was confusion, Spicer pretended to see clarity, in Afghanistan (“He’ll have an opportunity to make his position very clear”) and Syria (“The president’s always been clear that he’s not going to telegraph actions”).

At the end of the lifeless performance by the beleaguered spokesman, what was clear is this: Spicer’s utility to Trump has diminished. And, as many a Trump loyalist has discovered, you are useful to Trump until you are not — and then you are cast aside.
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