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Who is lying, Trump or Comey?
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tonygraz Offline
#51 Posted: Fri, May 19 2017, 7:50 AM EST
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Maybe she should have asked Russia to find Trump's tax returns.
DrafterX Offline
#52 Posted: Fri, May 19 2017, 7:55 AM EST
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She prolly brought that up when she sat down with Mr Kislyak.... she just doesn't want to talk about it... Mellow
Mr. Jones Offline
#53 Posted: Fri, May 19 2017, 10:28 AM EST
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I want to go drink beers....

In the "rose garden" with V.P. PENCE...

He knows I'm the only guy who can solve his new problems...A friend and I solved his old problem,
Back in the 1980's... I CAN PRODUCE 100% results...just like last time...


(While TRUMP IS AWAY IN SAUDI ARABIA
getting drunk, smoking hash, **** dozens of got saudi harem Chicks and watching snuff beheading films..)

LIKE OBAMY DID WITH THAT COP AND SOMEBODY ELSE? A few years back.

#beersintherosegardenWit'"theprofessional"Mr.Jones...
Mr. Jones Offline
#54 Posted: Fri, May 19 2017, 10:30 AM EST
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*****= *****ING
got = HOT
gummy jones Offline
#55 Posted: Fri, May 19 2017, 10:56 AM EST
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i think the take away from all this is that if you are trying to strike a deal, it is best done on the tarmac at an arizona airport
gummy jones Offline
#56 Posted: Fri, May 19 2017, 11:27 AM EST
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so in my opinion this is a reasonably fair analysis on this
what say you folks?

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2017/05/19/analysis-video-of-recent-comey-testimony-on-political-pressure-is-important-but-not-dispositive-n2328851
delta1 Offline
#57 Posted: Fri, May 19 2017, 12:06 PM EST
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seems rational, but if we start our analysis by pointing out the bias of the source, as is common in this forum, Townhall is not a centrist or neutral publication. It scores as a right biased source in the Media Bias/Fact Check system.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/?s=Townhall

On content alone, the author makes a persuasive case that Trump's statements to Comey don't amount to obstruction. I agree. The choice of words the President used isn't forceful enough.

But I also think that the President was planting a seed. Consider the context. This was early in the term, before Comey was to testify in Congress... Trump directed the AG and the VP to leave the room before his exchange with Comey. Then, man to man, he lets the director know how he felt personally in a confidential way, about a man who both knew was in serious criminal trouble. It is suggestive and could also be interpreted as an intimidation ploy, given that Trump is the President, and Comey's boss...

Reminds me of a movie scene...mafia boss tells his underlings to leave the room so he can have a private conversation with the sheriff...while talking, he goes over to the pictures of the sheriff's wife and kids and says "lovely family, betcha you love to come home and see their happy faces..." What just happened?
DrafterX Offline
#58 Posted: Fri, May 19 2017, 12:31 PM EST
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Trump threatened to whack Homey..?? Huh
gummy jones Offline
#59 Posted: Fri, May 19 2017, 12:49 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
seems rational, but if we start our analysis by pointing out the bias of the source, as is common in this forum, Townhall is not a centrist or neutral publication. It scores as a right biased source in the Media Bias/Fact Check system.



of course - it is a conservative site, make no doubt about it. there are certainly some liberals who write for them but, for the most part, their authors are largely right leaning (at least).

the reason i posted it is because i think it is a fair article that most would discount because it isnt a "neurtral" source. on that note, id be interested to hear what source is "neutral."

aka im suggesting that that method of "analysis" is not without flaw.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#60 Posted: Sun, Jun 11 2017, 12:51 PM EST
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18 U.S. Code § 4 – Misprision of Felony.

Whoever, having knowledge of the actual commission of a felony cognizable by a court of the United States, conceals and does not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military authority under the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 684; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(G), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)
DrafterX Offline
#61 Posted: Sun, Jun 11 2017, 8:50 PM EST
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Rosie will pay his fine... Mellow
WSC Offline
#62 Posted: Mon, Jun 12 2017, 9:38 AM EST
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One is a pathological liar with a 70-year-history of "alternative facts," the other is Comey.
gummy jones Offline
#63 Posted: Mon, Jun 12 2017, 10:04 AM EST
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they are all liars
DrafterX Offline
#64 Posted: Mon, Jun 12 2017, 10:31 AM EST
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I still haven't seen where he lied.. or is this just one of those things we're just supposed to believe.. Mellow
MACS Offline
#65 Posted: Mon, Jun 12 2017, 12:56 PM EST
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It is done a lot by both sides, but I really dislike when someone says 'consider the source'.

That's like shooting the messenger. It doesn't change the message. If you have issue with what was stated, offer a dissenting opinion and say why, don't just say 'right/left wing site... bogus'.
frankj1 Offline
#66 Posted: Mon, Jun 12 2017, 4:49 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
It is done a lot by both sides, but I really dislike when someone says 'consider the source'.

That's like shooting the messenger. It doesn't change the message. If you have issue with what was stated, offer a dissenting opinion and say why, don't just say 'right/left wing site... bogus'.

you ate some smaht pills, dintcha?
MACS Offline
#67 Posted: Mon, Jun 12 2017, 5:01 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
you ate some smaht pills, dintcha?


Some folks would tell you not enough of them...
DrafterX Offline
#68 Posted: Mon, Jun 12 2017, 5:37 PM EST
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All I have is pain pills... Mellow
xibbumbero Offline
#69 Posted: Mon, Jun 12 2017, 7:33 PM EST
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Do Skittles count as pills? X Think
jjanecka Offline
#70 Posted: Tue, Jun 13 2017, 5:28 PM EST
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Pretty sure once trump is impeached we're gonna find that the dems actually paid Russia to rig the elections in Trumps favor so they could seal the fate of the republican party in order to usher in a new wave of communism.
delta1 Offline
#71 Posted: Tue, Jun 13 2017, 5:55 PM EST
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...so that we can get more immigrants from Denmark to make America danish great again...
frankj1 Offline
#72 Posted: Tue, Jun 13 2017, 6:40 PM EST
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jjanecka wrote:
Pretty sure once trump is impeached we're gonna find that the dems actually paid Russia to rig the elections in Trumps favor so they could seal the fate of the republican party in order to usher in a new wave of communism.

Dems are like a genius
xibbumbero Offline
#73 Posted: Wed, Jun 14 2017, 7:49 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
Dems are like a genius


Yes,comrade. X BigGrin
frankj1 Offline
#74 Posted: Wed, Jun 14 2017, 8:20 PM EST
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HA!
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