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Tulsa killing
DrafterX Offline
#101 Posted:
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Prolly just like yours.. Mellow
banderl Offline
#102 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
Prolly just like yours.. Mellow

But mine doesn't have a deek in it like yours.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
frankj1 Offline
#103 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
...and he reaches for the female doll

this is why we missed you...HA!
dkeage Offline
#104 Posted:
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Posts: 15,149
teedubbya wrote:
Band I gor accused of something I didn't do. I luckily had witnesses and it was a farce. Had I not they made it really clear they would comfortably create the situation and evidence because they were so sure they were right. They were wrong and it was easily proceable and I was lucky as a result.

It is not list on me that if I hadn't had hard evidence to the contrary I was ****ed and those **** would have slept well at night convinced they were right. They are the cops for gods sake, they must be right.

Bunch of corrupt prices of ****. The am so lucky there are good folks in this world willing to stand up to them and cameras and security footage.



Didn't you get drunk and steal water from Walmart? Think
teedubbya Offline
#105 Posted:
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I edited the above. But I went from believing the cops are always right to vary wary of them and recognizing corruption and a culture of complete bull**** based on their belief that right intentions justify wrong actions. They live in la la land.
teedubbya Offline
#106 Posted:
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The cops are not always wrong but they are not always right and will lie and cover for each other in an attempt to appear so. A necessary yet sometimes corrupt institution that needs reform which is impossible when they circle the wagons and can do no wrong.
rfenst Offline
#107 Posted:
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dkeage wrote:
Didn't you get drunk and steal water from Walmart? Think



Touche!!!
teedubbya Offline
#108 Posted:
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dkeage wrote:
Didn't you get drunk and steal water from Walmart? Think

Lol. No.
ajerrils Offline
#109 Posted:
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
I'm just going to put this here....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEvMc-K8XHY



Angel


What I always think of when cops are involved. Applause

8trackdisco Offline
#110 Posted:
Joined: 11-06-2004
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So obeying the law, not running away, not talking chit helps you to not get your ass kicked?

They should show that video to all kids in middle school.
DrafterX Offline
#111 Posted:
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I showed my son... Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#112 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
Lol. No.

so you were sober when you stole the water?
DrafterX Offline
#113 Posted:
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he was on the goofballs... Mellow
Speyside Offline
#114 Posted:
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Frank, it was just an inaccurate audit at Walmart.
DrafterX Offline
#115 Posted:
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TULSA, Okla. – An unarmed black man shot dead by a white police officer after his car broke down on a city street last month was high on the hallucinogenic drug PCP in when he died, according to toxicology tests released by a medical examiner Tuesday.

Terence Crutcher, 40, had "acute phencyclidine intoxication" when he died Sept. 16. Officer Betty Jo Shelby was charged with first-degree manslaughter after his death, with a prosecutor saying she reacted unreasonably when Crutcher disobeyed her commands.

Medical literature says PCP, also known as Angel Dust, can induce euphoria and feelings of omnipotence as well as agitation, mania and depression.

Dr. Matthew Lee, a physician and pharmacist who also works for the Virginia Office of the Chief Medical Examiner's Office, said the 96 nanograms per milliliter of PCP found in Crutcher's system is more than enough to cause someone to be uncoordinated, agitated and combative.

"It's on the high side, relative to causing some sort of impairment or intoxication," Lee said.

Videos from a police helicopter and a dashboard camera showed Crutcher walking away from Shelby on a North Tulsa street with his arms in the air, but the footage does not offer a clear view of when Shelby fired the single shot.

Tulsa police had said previously that they had found a vial of PCP in Crutcher's SUV — and the police officer's lawyer said she had completed drug-recognition training and believed Crutcher might have been under the influence of drugs.

Lawyers for Crutcher's family have said previously that even if drugs were present, the shooting wasn't justified.


Film at 11.... Mellow
Stinkdyr Offline
#116 Posted:
Joined: 06-16-2009
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gummy jones wrote:
selling division is sexy
gotta prime the people
get them begging for daddy government to control their lives even more



ed zachary!

Beer
MACS Offline
#117 Posted:
Joined: 02-26-2004
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYSsCaUFexw

Watch it. It may help explain the thought process.
DrafterX Offline
#118 Posted:
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A jury on Wednesday acquitted a white Oklahoma police officer who shot and killed an unarmed black man last year, sparking outrage from the man's family and supporters.

Tulsa Officer Betty Jo Shelby said she shot 40-year-old Terence Crutcher out of fear because he didn't obey commands to lie on the ground and appeared to reach inside his SUV for what she thought was a gun.

However, Crutcher's father, the Rev. Joey Crutcher, said in no uncertain terms: "Let it be known that I believe in my heart that Betty Shelby got away with murder."

Jurors reached their verdict after deliberating for just over nine hours.

A lawyer for Shelby said the officer was "elated" that the jury found her not guilty. "She's ready to get back to her life," defense attorney Shannon McMurray said.

The shooting unfolded on Sept. 16 of last year. Shelby said while she was headed to a different call, she encountered Crutcher near his SUV as it was stopped in the middle of a two-lane road. The officer testified that he refused to follow her commands -- and after he reached his hands into the SUV's open window, she fired.

Prosecutors told jurors that Shelby overreacted, arguing that Crutcher had his hands in the air and wasn't combative. Dashcam video showed the man falling to the ground shortly after he appeared to reach into the SUV.

Protesters briefly blocked a street outside the courthouse after the jury announced its verdict, shouting "No justice, no peace," and "Hands up, don't shoot." They also marched to the hotel where the officer was believed to be staying, Fox 23 reported.

"I ask Oklahomans to respect our criminal justice system and especially the jurors, who heard the evidence from both sides in this case. Those who disagree with the verdict have the right to express their opinions; I just ask that they do so in a peaceful manner. I appeal to Tulsans and others to remain calm. Our thoughts and prayers should be with the Terence Crutcher and Betty Shelby families during this difficult time," Gov. Mary Fallin responded.
An autopsy found Crutcher had PCP -- a drug that can trigger hallucinations -- in his system when he died. His wife said that was irrelevant to the case.

The defense attacked prosecutors for charging Shelby with first-degree manslaughter just six days after the shooting, saying the case was rushed.

Tulsa County District Attorney Steve Kunzweiler said defense attorneys know it was "a bad shoot.”

The shooting was among several officer-involved shootings in recent years that helped galvanize the Black Lives Matter movement and prompted calls for more police accountability.


Film at 11..... Think
MACS Offline
#119 Posted:
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So, his father is a preacher, but doesn't believe his son has any responsibility in the matter... and his wife believes that the fact he was doped up on PCP also had no relevance.

Wow. Okay. I suppose they're entitled to their opinions. smdh
DrafterX Offline
#120 Posted:
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No riots last night.... I wouldn't be surprised if there was some organizing going on right now tho... Mellow
Speyside Offline
#121 Posted:
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A jury found her not guilty, the news media needs to STFU. I hope the protests don't turn violent, but will not be suprised if/when they do. I can see how she would have feared for her life given what PCP can do.
DrafterX Offline
#122 Posted:
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From what I understand, the prosecution has to prove, without a doubt, that the officer was NOT in fear for her life at the time of the shooting.... very tough to prove somethin like that if you ask me.... Mellow
MACS Offline
#123 Posted:
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I'd like to know the jury demographics. I've got to assume if the prosecution was worth a damn, some of the jurors were black.
DrafterX Offline
#124 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
I'd like to know the jury demographics. I've got to assume if the prosecution was worth a damn, some of the jurors were black.



10:40 a.m.: A jury has been chosen, with 14 individuals set to hear the evidence against Officer Betty Shelby starting as early as this afternoon.

The jury panel of 12 includes two black women, and a black man is among the two alternates.



Think
opelmanta1900 Offline
#125 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
I'd like to know the jury demographics. I've got to assume if the prosecution was worth a damn, some of the jurors were black.

At least 4 jurors involved in the deliberation process are black...
DrafterX Offline
#126 Posted:
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The morning after the verdict, Black Lives Matter Oklahoma shared this statement:

Once again, an American court has declared that the condition of being black is a capital offense. Once again, an American court has declared that a black person engaging in everyday behavior is a mortal threat and deserves to be shot down in the street and left to bleed out like a rabid animal. Once again, an American court has declared that ordinary standards of justice and the rule of law do not apply if the subject is an African American. Once again, an American court has declared that a police officer has the power and authority to act with impunity as judge, jury and executioner. To Betty Jo Shelby, we say that a jury may have acquitted you but we recognize that you violated your sworn oath to serve and protect. Rev. T. Sheri Dickerson, Executive Director of the Oklahoma chapter of Black Lives Matter, stated “Just like the Tulsa of 1921, there is no justice to be had for black people in Tulsa in 2017. Our deepest condolences go to the family of Terrence Crutcher and to the thousands of Tulsans who have to come to grips with the fact that the Tulsa Police Department claims the right to end the life of an unarmed, unaggressive citizen based upon the color of his skin. The irony is not lost on us that this verdict comes almost 96 years to the day after white Tulsans who felt threatened by a black man murdered more than 300 African American citizens, injured hundreds of others, raged, rioted and rampaged and ultimately dropped aerial bombs, rendering the formerly thriving Black Wall Street area of Tulsa’s Greenwood community a smoldering ruin. “Governor Fallin and Mayor Bartlett called for the people of Tulsa to be calm in the face of this miscarriage of justice,” Ms. Dickerson said, “but what they really ought to be asking for is justice for Terrence Crutcher and a judicial system that provides equal protection under the law. We will not tolerate having one set of laws for people of color and a different set of laws and standards for the police. Changes must be made.”
Black Lives Matter - OK demands:
Creation of a citizens’ advisory commission that will be charged with the investigation of police policies and procedures, identifying elements of racial and economic bias, and making recommendations to the Tulsa Police Department to ameliorate this bias. These changes will include appropriate policies, officer training and oversight to diminish the likelihood of future incidents in which an officer can shoot an unarmed citizen with impunity and to create systemic justice and limit the influence of personal bias on the part of police officers. · That Officer Betty Shelby immediately be dismissed from the Tulsa Police Department. · That Tulsa PD end the practice of placing police officers who shoot unarmed persons on suspension with full pay and benefits while they await trial.





I'm guessing it's not over.... Mellow
95BSharpshooter Offline
#127 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
[i]The morning after the verdict, Black Lives Matter Oklahoma shared this statement:

Noxious BS cut


I'm guessing it's not over.... Mellow


http://backwoodshome.com/blogs/MassadAyoob/2017/05/19/the-verdict-in-tulsa/
Boo hoo!
DrafterX Offline
#128 Posted:
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interesting... I saw pics of the truck.. sure looked like the window was up to me... Think
95BSharpshooter Offline
#129 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
interesting... I saw pics of the truck.. sure looked like the window was up to me... Think


It wasn't.
DrafterX Offline
#130 Posted:
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I saw pics from the helicopter right after the shooting took place.. or maybe even during the shooting... there were reflections on that window... Think


Makes me wonder.. And I'm not defending the dude... he shoulda complied and he definatley shouldn't been out driving around on the PCP... Not talking
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