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Hillary Blames Russians & Mrs. Ognnie.....
DrafterX Offline
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for losing.... she really needs to give it up... does she think the election will be reversed if she keeps crying about it...??? Not talking
burnem2 Offline
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No, but I sure am enjoying it!!!
gummy jones Offline
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couldnt possibly be her corruption and criminal activity
couldnt possibly be a populace that is sick of a far left agenda
maybe it was aliens?
Mr. Jones Offline
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WHO the h3LL is Mrs. Oggnie
gummy jones Offline
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if you dont know mrs oggnie then its too late
rfenst Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
for losing.... she really needs to give it up... does she think the election will be reversed if she keeps crying about it...??? Not talking


No.
She thinks she is going to save us from Russian interference in the future.
DrafterX Offline
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not her job... Not talking
TMCTLT Offline
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rfenst wrote:
No.
She thinks she is going to save us from Russian interference in the future.



I'm much MORE concerned with being " SAVED " from people like HER!!!! Her we know for certain to be corrupt....
dstieger Offline
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At what point can we stop talking about HRC or the last election as if it's news? I get that she needs to stfu and move on...but when she doesn't...why do we need to keep hearing about it? She is no longer relevant....to anything
DrafterX Offline
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When she stops trying to undermine our President with her 'Resistance Movement'... Mellow
tailgater Offline
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It's not like Hillary had any dignity to preserve.
Speyside Offline
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Honestly, at this point, I do not pay attention to anything she does or says. I think she will end up going away because of her lack of value. Other than a vocal segment of socialists, I think America is tired of her and her ilk. I don't need her attempting to influence my opinions. When I form a point of view I try to base it on facts. I don't believe anything she has to say. I never have.
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dstieger wrote:
At what point can we stop talking about HRC or the last election as if it's news? I get that she needs to stfu and move on...but when she doesn't...why do we need to keep hearing about it? She is no longer relevant....to anything

Maybe when she stops giving interviews explaining why she isn't to blame for the election loss ...

CNN) Hillary Clinton's list of who's to blame for her 2016 election loss gets longer with every passing day.

On Wednesday, in an interview with Recode's Walt Mossberg and Kara Swisher, Clinton added a few more names to her list: The New York Times and the Democratic National Committee. That's in addition to the media, James Comey, Donald Trump, the Russians and her supporters' assumptions that she would win the race.

The one person missing from that list? Hillary Rodham Clinton.


Sure, in her Recode interview, Clinton made passing reference -- as she has done in her other post-election appearances -- to the idea that she made mistakes.

"I take responsibility for every decision I make -- but that's not why I lost," she said.

The first half of that sentence is pure politician speak; the second half is what Clinton really believes.

In the wake of the campaign, and Trump's at-turns tumultuous, at-turns disastrous first four-plus months in office, Clinton appears to have convinced herself that her role in her defeat was minor when compared to the various forces -- media, Comey, Russians, gender and societal stereotypes against women in power -- aligned against her. Even her own party's national campaign committee -- with political ally Debbie Wasserman Schultz at the helm!

"I'm now the nominee of the Democratic Party," Clinton recalled to Mossberg and Swisher. "I inherit nothing from the Democratic Party," Clinton said. "It was bankrupt, it was on the verge of insolvency, its data was mediocre to poor, non-existent, wrong."

There is, of course, truth in Clinton's after-action report. There's no question that Comey's last-minute decision to re-open the investigation into her private email server played a negative factor for her in the final 10 days of the race. As the CIA and FBI have noted, the Russians actively meddled in the election to hurt Clinton and help Trump. And Clinton is even sort of right about the DNC and Wasserman Schultz, who was beset by problems even before the email hack that led to the WikiLeaks releases.

But that is the reality of all political campaigns. Stuff happens. Good luck and bad breaks occur. Circumstances totally out of a candidate's control often decide -- or heavily influence -- how voters make up their minds. Here's one example: Clinton's private email server had absolutely nothing to do with the email hack via WikiLeaks. But the two issues -- both of which dealt with email -- got conflated as one issue in the minds of lots and lots of voters. And there was nothing Clinton could do about it.

The truth of the matter is this: Hillary Clinton's name was at the top of the campaign and signed on the checks her staff received. It was her decision to set up a private email server and exclusively use it for her communications as secretary of state -- the first person in her position to do that.

She was the one who kept giving high-paid speeches to the likes of Goldman Sachs even after it was clear she was going to run for president. ("They paid me," Clinton explained Wednesday.)

She was the one who struggled to grasp -- despite the repeated warnings of her staff -- that the email issue was causing her major image problems on questions of honesty and trustworthiness.

She was the one who struggled to put away a once-quixotic challenge by Bernie Sanders in the Democratic primary.

She was the one who premised her entire general election strategy on the idea that once voters knew who Trump was and what he said, they would have no choice but to vote for her.


She's the one who decided against visiting Wisconsin even one time between the Democratic convention and the general election.

All of those things played roles -- you can debate how big or how small -- in her loss. And Clinton had control of every single one.

There's a tendency -- and this is the most human of traits -- to revise your own history to make yourself look as good as possible. And Clinton's revising is aided by a large swath of Americans who simply can't believe a) Trump won and b) Trump is carrying himself as president in the way he is. There's also the fact -- as Clinton has become fond of noting -- that she won the popular vote over Trump by almost 3 million votes.

But take away everything else and you are left with this: Hillary Clinton was the candidate. We pick presidents via the electoral college not the popular vote. Trump won. Clinton didn't.

While Clinton says she takes full responsibility for her defeat, everything else she says about the election belies that rhetoric. What taking the full blame and responsibility actually means is saying this: There were lots and lots of circumstances outside my control that hurt my chances. But at the end of the day, it was my campaign and my name on the ballot. And that means I lost and I own that.

Clinton isn't saying that. Probably because she simply doesn't believe it.
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Speyside wrote:
Honestly, at this point, I do not pay attention to anything she does or says. I think she will end up going away because of her lack of value. Other than a vocal segment of socialists, I think America is tired of her and her ilk. I don't need her attempting to influence my opinions. When I form a point of view I try to base it on facts. I don't believe anything she has to say. I never have.



People are paying her to talk... so she will continue... Mellow
dstieger Offline
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Maybe when she stops giving interviews explaining why she isn't to blame for the election loss ...



I understand she's doing it...its a disgrace....but the fact that she's doing it shouldn't be news, IMO
Mr. Jones Offline
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#14 how much $$$ money 💰
is she charging for an interview?
Or a speach ?
( currently , MAY 2017 prices??)
DrafterX Offline
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I dunno for sure.... Obama's getting 400k.. Mellow
gummy jones Offline
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dstieger wrote:
I understand she's doing it...its a disgrace....but the fact that she's doing it shouldn't be news, IMO


if people kept paying me big bucks to talk about sour grapes id be serving up vinegar all day
Mr. Jones Offline
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#18 gummy

+1

Me too...

I do it everyday on here...FO' F.R.E.E.
Mr. Jones Offline
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Mrs. Ognnie comes up totally ZERO guys on goggle

ZRX1200 Offline
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^ yeah......they made it that way dude.
Speyside Offline
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Could someone give a little background, who is Mrs Onngie?
Mr. Jones Offline
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ZRX1200 = DEEP STATE COLLUDER
DrafterX Offline
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I mighta spelled it wrong.. Think
ZRX1200 Offline
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I make calls, I don't do field work.

I can shoot if I need to.
Speyside Offline
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No, my mistake.
DrafterX Offline
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'Anybody not willing to accept the results of an election is a danger to democracy..'

Hillary Clinton



Think Think

Burner02 Offline
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No disrespect but WGAF?
DrafterX Offline
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She does... Mellow
Burner02 Offline
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She does not count.
ZRX1200 Offline
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She was also for being critical of the president....

Before she was against it.......

Them for it again......
MACS Offline
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John Sununu pretty much shuts this talking head's pie hole with his assessment on Russian interference.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2017/05/31/watch-john-sununu-destroys-cnn-over-their-russian-collusion-peddling-n2333500
DrafterX Offline
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That's it... and collusion isn't even illegal. . Mellow
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