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What wine you whinos drinking 1,000,000??
Speyside Offline
#601 Posted:
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Arg! Wrong year, it was 2013. And it was very good.
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#602 Posted:
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Boulard Calavados Pays d'Auge
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Try a Chilean wine. They are the only ungrafted wines in the world, with one exeption that I know of. In the 1970's the phloxyra louse decimated the wine industry world wide by eating/ infecting grape roots. Most of the wine in Chile comes from valleys surrounded by high mountain ranges that the phloxyra louse does not come over. This allows ungrafted vines to thrive there. You will find the wines have a different flavor because of this. I particularly like Syrahs from there. If you enjoy Cabernet Sauvignon they are quite good also, just not a grape I enjoy. To try something unique, Carmenere is a Merlot like grape, that seems more flavorful than Merlot. Most of the whites are from ungrafted vines also. I am not familiar with them since I do not drink much white wine. When I do drink white wine it is from particular places.
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I have a few close Chilean friends from my neighborhood. Chile is a most interesting country in that they have developed many things and ideas without outside influence...their western border is all ocean and their eastern border is mostly mountain.

Not the "typical" South American society.

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Try salting you wine glass for improved flavor. Pour a little wine in the glass, coat the entire inside of the glass, pour wine from the glass into the next glass and repeat. After al the glasses are salted, no idea why this is called salting, pour you wine as usual.

Try swirling you wine in you glass for about 10 seconds. This will release the aromatics.

If your wine is to tight and not showing well it should have been decanted. If the wine is already in glasses grab an additional glass. Pour the wine back and forth about 30 times. This will add about 3 years of oxidation to the wine and it should open up and taste great. Do not do this with Pinot Noir, it is to delicate.
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#606 Posted:
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2014, Beckman Syrah Purisima Mountain, Ballard Canyon, California.
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#607 Posted:
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Can't find a wine you want? Become familiar with back labels. The importer/wholesaler is listed there. Become familiar with who the importer/wholesaler is of the wines you like. Odds are you will like another wine of theirs. This is also a great way to try new wines you will also like. The back label often has tasting notes, and grape blends, also useful information when picking a wine
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2015, Wine Gurilla Sonoma County Zinfandel.

Grilled pork tenderloin.
Sweet potatos.
Tossed salad.
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Initiale Saint Chinian 2016 Rose
Domain Des Jougla

sirloin strip steak
steamed broccoli


Spey, says Languedoc Roussillon wine on the back...what is/are the grape(s)?
Light, dry, really like this bottle.

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#610 Posted:
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Syrah 35% , Grenache 25%, Carignan 20%, and Mourvedre 20%. The Carignan, if old vine, which it probably is makes this rose very interesting. It adds a soft, delicate high note to the wine. The Mourvedre also adds to the complexity of the wine, in fruit with acidity way.
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couldn't find the blend on the label, thanks.
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That was specific to that bottling. There are somewhere around 60 different southern rhone grapes.
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#613 Posted:
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Underwood Pinot Noir - Oregon

Wine in a can. Strange, but not bad at all with strawberry, cherry and a little chocolate. Enough for two glasses for the wifey and I when you don't want to open a whole bottle. Easy to transport and keep cool with the beer for outdoor events.
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2016 Mbali chenin blanc (79%)/viognier (21%)
quite delicious, after cod with broccoli
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^ good stuff. If you find pine ridge it is worth trying.
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noted.
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2014 Zaca Mesa Z blanc white, Santa Ynez Valley, California. 66% Roussanne, 28% Grenache Blanc, 6% Viognier. Very good.
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2012 Orin Swift Machete last night with dinner (filet, bake potato, & asparagus). First time I'd had the Machete. It was pretty big and bold and a great combination with dinner. fog
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#619 Posted:
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Rick, apparently you're not the only one that liked that cab franc:

https://thepourfool.com/2017/07/12/ledger-david-cellars-nearly-speechless-in-seattle/
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#620 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Rick, apparently you're not the only one that liked that cab franc:

https://thepourfool.com/2017/07/12/ledger-david-cellars-nearly-speechless-in-seattle/


We visited about 15 wineries and tasted maybe 60-70 wines when we were there for a week. I don't remember any being close to that wine.
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2015 Mollydooker The Boxer (yum)
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#622 Posted:
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So funny to catch on this thread. I rep many of the wines recently stated.

Pine Ridge is very nice. The wife and I really like it and it's at a decent price point. The addition of viognet makes it delicate.

Underwood does a fine job with cans. Don't be scared of them. Personally, I prefer their rose of the cans.

Mollydooker is fantastic wine. Any of them are great. They are allocated and have a cult following. A bit pricey but a nice splurge.

Currently I'm loving Cline Rose and Pinot Noir. I've become a Cline Ho I think.
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#623 Posted:
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Mattie B wrote:
So funny to catch on this thread. I rep many of the wines recently stated.

Pine Ridge is very nice. The wife and I really like it and it's at a decent price point. The addition of viognet makes it delicate.

Underwood does a fine job with cans. Don't be scared of them. Personally, I prefer their rose of the cans.

Mollydooker is fantastic wine. Any of them are great. They are allocated and have a cult following. A bit pricey but a nice splurge.

Currently I'm loving Cline Rose and Pinot Noir. I've become a Cline Ho I think.

Interesting, cuz Cline owns so much zin
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#624 Posted:
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Don't make me send you some.

Try them Frank. You won't be disappointed. The rose is made from Mourvèdre. Very different from the Provence style.

The Pinot , well there aren't many that I don't like.
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Mattie B wrote:
Don't make me send you some.

Try them Frank. You won't be disappointed. The rose is made from Mourvèdre. Very different from the Provence style.

The Pinot , well there aren't many that I don't like.

I shall search for them.

Good to see ya buddy.
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We tried a Costco brand Zin recently that was very good for around $10

Kirkland Signature Sonoma Old Vine Zinfandel

A few years ago they had a Kirkland Syrah for about $12 that to my tastes would beat most $30-$40 bottles. Unfortunately, it was a one year wonder.

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#627 Posted:
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Last night we had a 2013 Red Lily Tempranillo with mashed yukons, mixed green salad with Rogue Creamery blue cheese and smoked brisket point. Big flavors. My taste buds were singing for hours.

Today a new one to me, Cricket Hill Winery Vin Enchanté (40% Cab Frac, 60% Merlot)

Both are local smart producers with limited local distribution. Gonna pop a new blend from our favorite local vitner Serra later. Padre red blend.
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#628 Posted:
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rolled the dice on a $5.99 pinot noir,
The Naked Grape, Modesto, CA.

popped it to go with quickly grilled sea scallops, grilled asparagus, steamed and seasoned edamame, all after fresh sliced tomatoes with mozzarella, olive oil and a splash of Balsamic (don't like too heavy a pour) with fresh grown basil leaves.

Looking for a lighter red, it soon became obvious that the old saying is true about pinot noir...the less ya pay, the sweeter the wine. However, it was still pretty good. I've had way sweeter for more money.
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^ Cheap Pinot Noir has beet sugar added to it. This is done to be able to reach a high enough alcohol content. I think any Pinot Noir under $10 is a gamble.
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Speyside wrote:
^ Cheap Pinot Noir has beet sugar added to it. This is done to be able to reach a high enough alcohol content. I think any Pinot Noir under $10 is a gamble.

13.5 abv...
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#631 Posted:
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That is the number they usually shoot for when using this practice.
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#632 Posted:
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19 Crimes 2016 Red - Nice $13 bottle from our friends in Australia
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#633 Posted:
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Try 19 Crimes "The Banished". It's a dark Red blend primarily of Shiraz. My fav of their line.


Sampling some new wines for me this month.

Flowers Pinot Nior. Nice but pricey

Murrietas Well whip and spur. They did so well with the Spur I highly recommend this red blend

And for some big coin....Faust. But man is it good.
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Mattie B wrote:
Try 19 Crimes "The Banished". It's a dark Red blend primarily of Shiraz. My fav of their line.


"The Banished" will get a tasting in the next couple of weeks. I believe it was the same price as the bottle of the 2016 Red.



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#635 Posted:
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You are correct Burner. All the 19 crimes are line priced with the exception of The Warden.
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#636 Posted:
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Figuiere
Famille Combard
2016 Le Saint Andre` Rose` 2016

had this with a spectacular lobster roll last night, $15/glass...need to find out how much for a bottle. based on restaurant pricing, I'm guessing $30.
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quick search suggests $12-16...but doesn't show anywhere near me.
I'd buy a few at that price
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#638 Posted:
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Bogle Old Vine Essential Red 2014
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#639 Posted:
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Frank, a very traditional Cotes de Provence rose. Grenache, Cinault, Syrah, and Cabernet. Any Cotes de Povence will be similar. Figure $12 to $14 a bottle, any more is to much. The color should be similar in all Cotes de Provence roses, that light, pinkish, orange is color.
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Penfolds Bin 389 2010
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2015 D'aenberg Stump Jump GSM, Australia

Nose of white pepper, jammy dark red fruit, and herbs. Big and rich, jammy brambley fruit. Wild hebs, earthyness, and wet stone flavors. Somewhat edgie. A great wine with ribs off the barbecue.

Tossed salad with garlic infused red wine vinegar.
Grilled ribs with Memphis barbecue sauce.
Sweet potato fries.
Garden fresh steamed green beans with brown butter.
Ambrosia apples drizzled with Carmel sauce.
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Speyside wrote:
Frank, a very traditional Cotes de Provence rose. Grenache, Cinault, Syrah, and Cabernet. Any Cotes de Povence will be similar. Figure $12 to $14 a bottle, any more is to much. The color should be similar in all Cotes de Provence roses, that light, pinkish, orange is color.

great news, cuz it was right in the zone for me.
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Piatelli Malbec

This is brand new in our market.

For the price, it's solid. Should retail around $15.

I didn't like the Cab as much.
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didn't get the name, but a nice syrah rose (x2) with this

CHARRED OCTOPUS | 15
toasted almond mole, yellow raisins, roasted grapes

at Burro Bar in Brookline MA

Stinkdyr, very good place on Beacon St near Washington St.
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2015, SoneFly Chardonay, Russian River Valley, California.

Tossed salad with lime juice sprinkled on.
Grilled scallops with lemon juice squeezed on.
Cheese plate with 3 different Bries.
Apple and pear wedges.
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2014, Acacia A Pinot Noir, California.

$8.99, 85 points.

A really good inexpensive Pinot Noir. A nose of strawberry, bing cherry, and minerality. Medium in body, smooth, and silky. Dark cherry and blackberry fruit flavors. Nice minerality and acidity. Will stand up to pork and chicken. Would pair nicely with fatty fish and shrimp.
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frankj1 wrote:
Figuiere
Famille Combard
2016 Le Saint Andre` Rose` 2016

couldn't find this at my locals, but did find Figuiere Signature, Magali 2016 rose

cotes de Provence

"an assemblage of 15 to 25 year old 25% grenache, 15% cinsault, 30% syrah, and 30% cabernet"

$16- good
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Trimbach Pinot Blanc 2015

Alsace.

Despite being a fan of reds and roses for several years, Allen's suggestion leading me to Alsatian whites has worked out very well.
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Pinot Blanc is a mutation of Pinot Gris, which is a mutation of Pinot Noir. Step across the border into Italy. The region of Alto Adige has much in common with Alsace. The winery to look for is Alois Lageder. Their Pinot Blanc is very nice. It is not as big and rich as Trimbach, but has a very interesting minerality in it. Also the flavor is more Bartlett pear in nature. Alto Adige is also where much Pinot Grigio is grown. Pinot Grigio is less ripe Pinot Gris. When buying Pinot Grigio do not over pay. There is very little difference in Pinot Grigio. A $7 one is as good as a $20 one.
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love it!!!

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