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CNN Fires Three for Fake Russia Story
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http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/26/media/cnn-announcement-retracted-article/index.html

Three CNN reporters who did a story on a Trump campaign supporter who allegedly had dealings with a Russian bank that was determined to be false have been let go.

Real news? ... fake news? ...
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Did the Trump campaign supporter get whacked..?? Huh
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Fake
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BlamenTed Turner for producing the first 24 hour news channel (CNN). There just isn't that much news to justify its existence. They're more a content provider and less a news organization. Where is Walter Cronkite when you need him?
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DrafterX wrote:
Did the Trump campaign supporter get whacked..?? Huh


...of all things...he got an apology...


dude's name is Scaramucci...wonder if he can do the fandango...
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In the recent video footage obtained by Project Veritas, John Bonifield a Sr. Producer at CNN, admits to several beliefs that are in direct conflict with the official CNN narrative that Trump has colluded with Russia, and that Russia has interfered with the 2016 election. Bonifield expresses clear doubts that there is a fire behind the Russia smoke, stating, “I haven’t seen any good enough evidence to show that the President committed a crime.” He also confirms suspicions that CNN staff is ideologically biased against Trump, stating, “I know a lot of people don’t like him and they’d like to see him get kicked out of office…”

Bonifield even further confirms CNN’s bias against the President, stating, “I think the President is probably right to say, like, look you are witch hunting me…you have no real proof.”

Bonifield exposes that Russia has been great for CNN’s ratings, and that orders from CEO Jeff Zucker himself have directed CNN to pursue Russia leads at the expense of other stories. Bonifield states “And the CEO of CNN said in our internal meeting, he said ‘good job everybody covering the Climate Accords, but we’re done with it let’s get back to Russia.’”

He further comments on Russia, “it’s mostly bull**** right now. Like, we don’t have any giant proof…if it was something really good, it’d leak.”
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Why don't they hammer in on Obama for ACTUALLY colluding with the Russians on the election.
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jjanecka wrote:
Why don't they hammer in on Obama for ACTUALLY colluding with the Russians on the election.


Because they aren't a news organization. They're a Democratic propaganda orgsnization.
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jjanecka wrote:
Why don't they hammer in on Obama for ACTUALLY colluding with the Russians on the election.

I heard it was Denmark...
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LMAO!
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delta1 wrote:
...of all things...he got an apology...


dude's name is Scaramucci...wonder if he can do the fandango...


Thunder bolt and lightning.

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And John Kerry's boat is named Scaramouche.
It means "a cowardly braggot" often depicted by a Clown character.

I hear Theresa named it.


delta1 Offline
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he he...heard she did that after John tried 56 other names...
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Galileo Figaro Magnifico.
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jjanecka wrote:
Why don't they hammer in on Obama for ACTUALLY colluding with the Russians on the election.



Because he didn't and it's the dumbest line of deflection/spin I have seen in a long time... almost as if the admin doesn't know the definition of collusion or their blind supporters won't really care.
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then there's the fact that colluding isn't even illegal... but they sure went after Trumps like he ate a puppy-dog or somethin... Mellow
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DrafterX wrote:
then there's the fact that colluding isn't even illegal... but they sure went after Trumps like he ate a puppy-dog or somethin... Mellow


didnt seem to matter when the obama admin meddled in the Israeli elections or brexit or any of the other elections

i personally dont care
all the outrage was just comical and sad
Shakespearean almost
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I think obama was public in his support ... i didn't realize he used the cia and our intel agencies to break the laws of those countries/alliances to direct a covert operation possibly aided by the other parties.... now that I know that it is a direct correlation and I am outraged.
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teedubbya wrote:
Because he didn't and it's the dumbest line of deflection/spin I have seen in a long time... almost as if the admin doesn't know the definition of collusion or their blind supporters won't really care.




Yeah....but ain't it fun to just toss sh*t out there and see what sticks?? I mean that's what the press has been doing since the election, but doing just the opposite for Obummer....they were / ARE his spin machine and they do it happily.

Blind supporters.....that'd be funny if not so disgusting, unless your talking about Soetoro supporters then your SPOT ON.
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I'm talking about both/all. it is amazing to me how many justify what they do by something they hate someone else doing.
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teedubbya wrote:
it is amazing to me how many justify what they do by something they hate someone else doing.



you fell for the 'just the tip' thing again didn't you... Mellow
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teedubbya wrote:
I think obama was public in his support ... i didn't realize he used the cia and our intel agencies to break the laws of those countries/alliances to direct a covert operation possibly aided by the other parties.... now that I know that it is a direct correlation and I am outraged.


he was public and funds were used for the opposition at least against netanyahu

once again, whatever

from what i gather thats about the same degree the russians were involved and many times more than trump is guilty of
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Gonna be some whiplashes when the investigations are complete and a detailed report published...pretty sure those with their heads in the sand will maintain that posture...

It seems impossible, but our political environment has become so toxic, that one side is more willing to work with our sworn enemy rather than reach across the aisle. We'd rather give a pass to foreigners, Russians, rather than to engage with fellow Americans...
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gummy jones wrote:
he was public and funds were used for the opposition at least against netanyahu

once again, whatever

from what i gather thats about the same degree the russians were involved and many times more than trump is guilty of



if the russians simply publicly supported trump and gave money no issue (possibly on the money piece). But it looks like some laws may have been broken (by the ruskies...not necessary trump) Some may be ok with russian hacking and espionage because it benefited them. I'm not no matter who it benefited.
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delta1 wrote:
he he...heard she did that after John tried 56 other names...


Nice!
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teedubbya wrote:
if the russians simply publicly supported trump and gave money no issue (possibly on the money piece). But it looks like some laws may have been broken (by the ruskies...not necessary trump) Some may be ok with russian hacking and espionage because it benefited them. I'm not no matter who it benefited.


So you didn't vote for Hillary because of the Russians?

Or are you just looking out for the dumb people who were easily swayed?

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neither, and not saying trump did anything wrong.

I am sort of against foreign countries hacking us and breaking any other laws Mellow. I don't really know or care how much impact it had. To me that's largely irrelevant. That's like getting caught cheating and saying it's no big deal because I would have won anyway.

YMMV
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LOL!
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I suspect you got it :)
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teedubbya wrote:
if the russians simply publicly supported trump and gave money no issue (possibly on the money piece). But it looks like some laws may have been broken (by the ruskies...not necessary trump) Some may be ok with russian hacking and espionage because it benefited them. I'm not no matter who it benefited.


just confused what any of this has to do with trump - because lets be honest, we only care (at least mostly) when it seemed damning to trump. i know everyone (maybe not you, i havent paid attention) has now conveniently changed their outrage to russia but it was all directed towards the potus and his staff up until very recently. i will be waiting for the hour long apology segment on cnn and the front page retraction and public apology to trump in the nyt, etc but wont hold my breath.

i cant imagine anyone supporting another country hacking us but my original comment was just that, from the evidence we have and have had historically, obama has done far more to meddle in the affairs of other nations then trump has yet a couple weeks ago the "only thing that could help our embarrassed nation save face was to impeach him [paraphrase]."

seems people would rather just keep kicking the offended/outraged can down the road rather then getting some work done.
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teedubbya wrote:
I suspect you got it :)


Sure did.

Jokes used to go over my head.
But not as much since I started wearing Frank's high heals.


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gummy jones wrote:
just confused what any of this has to do with trump - because lets be honest, we only care (at least mostly) when it seemed damning to trump. i know everyone (maybe not you, i havent paid attention) has now conveniently changed their outrage to russia but it was all directed towards the potus and his staff up until very recently. i will be waiting for the hour long apology segment on cnn and the front page retraction and public apology to trump in the nyt, etc but wont hold my breath.

i cant imagine anyone supporting another country hacking us but my original comment was just that, from the evidence we have and have had historically, obama has done far more to meddle in the affairs of other nations then trump has yet a couple weeks ago the "only thing that could help our embarrassed nation save face was to impeach him [paraphrase]."

seems people would rather just keep kicking the offended/outraged can down the road rather then getting some work done.



I don't like trump... as a person and a business man... the fact that he is a democrat doesn't enter in to it for me.... but I never accused him of collusion or anything else. He may have, but I don't know. The jury is out.

But Obama did not do more of this type of thing than Putin. Thats just simply not true given the facts we have thus far.


As for the highlighted part Trump supported and encouraged it... now he says he was just joking and stuff
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tailgater wrote:
Sure did.

Jokes used to go over my head.
But not as much since I started wearing Frank's high heals.





They make your calves look nice
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#33...didn't know tail was a cattle rancher...




gummy jones wrote:
just confused what any of this has to do with trump - because lets be honest, we only care (at least mostly) when it seemed damning to trump. i know everyone (maybe not you, i havent paid attention) has now conveniently changed their outrage to russia but it was all directed towards the potus and his staff up until very recently. i will be waiting for the hour long apology segment on cnn and the front page retraction and public apology to trump in the nyt, etc but wont hold my breath


not true...for most of us (except those who are fed only by FOX), it was always about Russia's secret interference in our election...we need to get to the bottom of what they did, make them pay (more than just Obama's sanctions, which Trump seems to want to reverse) and then fix the barn door. Obama didn't do anything like what the US intel people have said, so far, that the Russians have done to influence free elections, and are continuing to do, all around the world. Not sure if Trump did anything personally to help the Russkies, but it sure looks like at least three of his campaign people, Flynn, Manafort and Paige have suspicious ties to Russian intelligence...Trump was really vocal during the campaign about getting help from wiki-leaks, who got their info from the Russians, and that's a concern...

Do not interpret this to mean that Trump's victory over Hillary Clinton and his Presidency is illegitimate. He won...he's our President...we can't change that...but if there is proof that key people in his campaign helped a foreign enemy tamper with our electoral process, they must be held accountable. It should be that way, even if Hillary had won and some of her people conspired with a foreign govt. to try to tilt the result.

That explains why the GOP controlled Congress...GOP controlled...initiated investigations about Russian meddling in our elections through their Intelligence Committees. They did that very near the beginning of Trumps's presidency, when the US intelligence agencies presented their findings. There are still some clear thinkers on both sides of the spectrum
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He was just kiddin... Mellow
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teedubbya wrote:
I don't like trump... as a person and a business man... the fact that he is a democrat doesn't enter in to it for me.... but I never accused him of collusion or anything else. He may have, but I don't know. The jury is out.

But Obama did not do more of this type of thing than Putin. Thats just simply not true given the facts we have thus far.


As for the highlighted part Trump supported and encouraged it... now he says he was just joking and stuff


1. trump needs to stop saying so much (stupid) stuff...i agree. when you have diarrhea of the mouth you are bound to say stupid stuff. arguing with pop stars is not the place of a president or anyone with a brain for that matter.

2. i agree putin is worse than obama as far as meddling (by far) but obama has done more of it (to date at least) than trump has - that was my only point on that topic.

3. trump was a democrat and now i have no idea what he is - but i knew that going in. he remains a wild card who i happen to agree with on more than a couple issues. if he is representative of the new democrats (if that exists) as an option against the liberals then i can predict we will see a huge resurgence and likely takeover of "new democrats."
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2. No one is accusing trump of meddling in other countries elections. They are accusing Russian intelligence of interfering in ours.

3. I don't think of him as a politician. He's the guy from the Howard Sten show, the apprentice, and a guy that inherited tons of money, went through multiple bankruptcies to the point no us banks would give him a loan and lives off his name. I just see him as a con man regardless of party.

To be fair I found him amusing on the stern show because he was vulgar and would never back down from a feud no matter how silly. But being on stern is different than being president and it's not as amusing.

It is weird folks think politics somehow purified or sanitized this turd bag.
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Damn auto correct butchered that. Oh well.
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Think
Trump a Democrat..?? but I thought he was a Birther.... Think
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He is
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Was a Democrats only found a group stupid enough to believe the birther crap. Then he just kept going because they'll believe everything he says
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he was just doing what Hillary told him to... he sure flip-flopped on her tho... prolly got to know her and stuff... Mellow
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delta1 wrote:
#33...didn't know tail was a cattle rancher...






not true...for most of us (except those who are fed only by FOX), it was always about Russia's secret interference in our election...we need to get to the bottom of what they did, make them pay (more than just Obama's sanctions, which Trump seems to want to reverse) and then fix the barn door. Obama didn't do anything like what the US intel people have said, so far, that the Russians have done to influence free elections, and are continuing to do, all around the world. Not sure if Trump did anything personally to help the Russkies, but it sure looks like at least three of his campaign people, Flynn, Manafort and Paige have suspicious ties to Russian intelligence...Trump was really vocal during the campaign about getting help from wiki-leaks, who got their info from the Russians, and that's a concern...

Do not interpret this to mean that Trump's victory over Hillary Clinton and his Presidency is illegitimate. He won...he's our President...we can't change that...but if there is proof that key people in his campaign helped a foreign enemy tamper with our electoral process, they must be held accountable. It should be that way, even if Hillary had won and some of her people conspired with a foreign govt. to try to tilt the result.

That explains why the GOP controlled Congress...GOP controlled...initiated investigations about Russian meddling in our elections through their Intelligence Committees. They did that very near the beginning of Trumps's presidency, when the US intelligence agencies presented their findings. There are still some clear thinkers on both sides of the spectrum


1. all nations try to hack other nations. spying is as old as nations themselves. i dont want anyone meddling in our elections and i dont want to meddle in anyone else's but the fact is, from open endorsements (like obama and many others did) to boots on the ground campaign money (like obama in Israel) and regime change (like every president has) it happens. it is not surprising that russia hired trolls to bad mouth hilary or whatever else. it does not change the fact that she is a crook and a liar nor does it change the context of the emails exposed. it wasnt too long ago that china hacked the gov and got all the identifying info on all gov employees. what did we do about it? nothing. but with the russia stuff some decided trump needed impeached.

2. gop controls congress and could not ignore the endless saber rattling and media (read liberal) pressure that there was smoke (not sure there was) so there must be fire. so an investigation was undertaken. it is no surprise. we were told with hilary that although there was wrongdoing, there was no intent (which is bs). but here, it was another obamacare type reasoning where we needed to investigate to see if there was evidence. these politicians are essentially celebrities suckling at the public teet and hope to do so for 40 years. reelection is most of their main goal.
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gummy so you are on record as having no issue with russian intel hacking or attempting to hack our election because everyone does it? At least you are honest.

I for one recognize espionage happens from all sides but will not tolerate it against my country when identified and will not accept the leader of our country's actions if he was an active participant (big if...not saying true).
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teedubbya wrote:
2. No one is accusing trump of meddling in other countries elections. They are accusing Russian intelligence of interfering in ours.

3. I don't think of him as a politician. He's the guy from the Howard Sten show, the apprentice, and a guy that inherited tons of money, went through multiple bankruptcies to the point no us banks would give him a loan and lives off his name. I just see him as a con man regardless of party.

To be fair I found him amusing on the stern show because he was vulgar and would. Ever back down from a feud no matter how silly. But being on stern is different than being president and it's. It as amusing.

It is weird folks think politics somehow purified or sanitized this turd bag.





many are/were accusing trump of colluding on hacking/interference. that was their magnum opus. take the road to russia to get to trump. no matter how many times you say the outrage was all russia (as it may be/have been for you) many peoples outrage was focused on trump.

i do not find trump amusing nor do i think anything short of Jesus could purify/sanitize him.
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well, Trump asking the Russians to hack Hillary on camera didn't really help things much... just sayin... Mellow
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he was just kiddin and stuff
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True... true... Mellow
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teedubbya wrote:
gummy so you are on record as having no issue with russian intel hacking or attempting to hack our election because everyone does it? At least you are honest.

I for one recognize espionage happens from all sides but will not tolerate it against my country.


let me try this again

gummy jones wrote:
i dont want anyone meddling in our elections and i dont want to meddle in anyone else's


put me on record as being very against it. is that the argument here? are you really extrapolating everything said as to me (or anyone) saying foreign hacking isnt a big deal? if so, you continue to make a big miscalculation. also put me on record as being fairly certain that at this exact moment there are many foreign gov sanctioned and private industry hackers trying to gain access to all corners of our nation. also put me on record as having a hunch we may be doing it to.

as i stated, spying has always been around. we say we do it for the greater good and our enemies say the same thing. hacking is the 21st century version and i can only assume we havent seen anything yet.

i do feel that, if a "good" nation exists on this earth it is america. no one else even comes close. i feel we are blessed beyond what we deserve and do not tolerate anything that hinders american ideals of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness or our goal to see that those God given freedoms are granted to the oppressed on this earth.
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gummy jones wrote:
many are/were accusing trump of colluding on hacking/interference. that was their magnum opus. take the road to russia to get to trump. no matter how many times you say the outrage was all russia (as it may be/have been for you) many peoples outrage was focused on trump.

i do not find trump amusing nor do i think anything short of Jesus could purify/sanitize him.



No one is accusing him of doing so in another country's election. They are accusing putin of that. They are accusing Trump (with no proof yet) of colluding or coordinating with Putin in our election.

Obama does not stand accused of anything of the sort and it really doesn't belong in the conversaitonas anything other than a hollow diversion.
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