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opelmanta1900 Offline
#151 Posted: Thu, Jul 6 2017, 1:59 PM EST
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we will clearly never see eye to eye on this... we agree on the facts for the most part... but what I view it as a reprehensible attack on a private citizen by an enormous organization that wields the power to destroy peoples lives by airing their personal information to an enormous national audience, you seem to view as justifiable because you think the private citizen was a "bigot"...
DrafterX Offline
#152 Posted: Thu, Jul 6 2017, 2:02 PM EST
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If Fox News had done this the 15 yr old Obama woulda invited him to da White House... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#153 Posted: Thu, Jul 6 2017, 2:05 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
we will clearly never see eye to eye on this... we agree on the facts for the most part... but what I view it as a reprehensible attack on a private citizen by an enormous organization that wields the power to destroy peoples lives by airing their personal information to an enormous national audience, you seem to view as justifiable because you think the private citizen was a "bigot"...


jjanecka wrote:
I could care less honestly, other than the fact that a media outlet has more on their plate than bullying a private citizen.




We will never see eye to eye if you keep characterizing my positions to fit your model. I'm not justifying anything because someone is a bigot. I disagree on the reprehensible attack on a private citizen part or the bullying part (and certainly blackmail). That's where we disagree. Those are conclusions to fit a your agenda rather than facts.

If I accepted that part as true the bigot part would have no bearing.


If we find either to be the case I'll admit it. I just don't see it that way.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#154 Posted: Thu, Jul 6 2017, 2:05 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
I doubt he did... I watched the story evolve this morning on 8chan... it was silly... everyone knew he was a 30-something year old (he posted something about being a teenager back in the 90's I think) but one guy mentions it's a 15 year old, everyone else starts rolling with it, then someone started saying he was gay and cnn had threatened to out him, and that didn't stick at all because of how outlandish it was, but the 15 year old thing stuck... weird... in 2 weeks if you ask 10 random people about this, at least 3 will still think he was 15...


1. Drafter

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DrafterX Offline
#155 Posted: Thu, Jul 6 2017, 2:07 PM EST
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Mellow
victor809 Offline
#156 Posted: Thu, Jul 6 2017, 2:07 PM EST
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... this sort of fits under "if you're gonna do the crime you gotta be prepared to do the time"...

He posted inflammatory crap for attention anonymously. It got bigger than he anticipated however that was ALWAYS the risk, whether he knew it or not. Your boss could read your dumb azz posts at any point in time, just by dumb luck. Anyone you know may at any time run across your anonymous posts and put enough info together to figure out they know you in real life. This is just a difference in scale.
victor809 Offline
#157 Posted: Thu, Jul 6 2017, 2:09 PM EST
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I think I figured it out.

Opel is hanassholesolo....
teedubbya Offline
#158 Posted: Thu, Jul 6 2017, 2:10 PM EST
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Nah he learns by arguing which is why he keeps moving the goalposts.
victor809 Offline
#159 Posted: Thu, Jul 6 2017, 2:12 PM EST
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Does it feel better when he moves the fencepost you sit on?
teedubbya Offline
#160 Posted: Thu, Jul 6 2017, 2:13 PM EST
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wiggle it yes... move it no... until I relax a bit more
teedubbya Offline
#161 Posted: Thu, Jul 6 2017, 2:15 PM EST
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Trump is a one man wrecking ball with his tweets. think of all the crap that wouldn't be happening if he didn't tweet..
opelmanta1900 Offline
#162 Posted: Thu, Jul 6 2017, 2:16 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
... this sort of fits under "if you're gonna do the crime you gotta be prepared to do the time"...

He posted inflammatory crap for attention anonymously. It got bigger than he anticipated however that was ALWAYS the risk, whether he knew it or not. Your boss could read your dumb azz posts at any point in time, just by dumb luck. Anyone you know may at any time run across your anonymous posts and put enough info together to figure out they know you in real life. This is just a difference in scale.

many doubt this is what happened in this case though... in fact, the more andrew went into how he tracked this guy down, the more unbelievable it was... general concensus among (not me) those in the know - andrew went to cnn's parent company and got ip addresses...

and I agree that anything you post anonymously is always in danger of being exposed... but how would you feel if fox news made a portfolio of every bad thing you'd ever posted online about anything - even things taken out of context - and gave it to your boss and your girlfriend and everyone else you know? for one, I know you'd sue the sh*t out of fox, that's for sure...
opelmanta1900 Offline
#163 Posted: Thu, Jul 6 2017, 2:17 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Trump is a one man wrecking ball with his tweets. think of all the crap that wouldn't be happening if he didn't tweet..

if I had the ability, I'd redo miley's wrecking ball video with a trump head...
victor809 Offline
#164 Posted: Thu, Jul 6 2017, 2:49 PM EST
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I am pretty sure I wouldn't have an issue with any of the publicly posted items released non anonymously. Unless there is something I've forgotten in the past I am pretty consistent about only posting using opinions and language which I would be comfortable having associated with my name. Additionally, I understand that my agreement with my IP provider doesn't guarantee my anonymity. If I want that I would use a VPN and proxy. If I happen to be doing something I don't want traced back to my name I have used this in the past. But even that pu ts you at the mercy of that providor.

Additionally, CNN did not take a portfolio of every bad thing this idiot said. They were talking about his name, not a collection of his online activity. Only what others could gather by searching a Reddit username... which he voluntarily made public by posting to Reddit under a consistent username. That was already public for anyone who wanted to accumulate it
teedubbya Offline
#165 Posted: Thu, Jul 6 2017, 2:49 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
if I had the ability, I'd redo miley's wrecking ball video with a trump head...



careful... you know miley, trump, and their posse are trying to kill all memes about them
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#166 Posted: Thu, Jul 6 2017, 3:07 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
careful... you know miley, trump, and their posse are trying to kill all memes about them





Sup TDUB
teedubbya Offline
#167 Posted: Thu, Jul 6 2017, 5:13 PM EST
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Sup
delta1 Offline
#168 Posted: Thu, Jul 6 2017, 5:37 PM EST
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Here's the likely scenario: CNN does research and discovers the source of the meme. CNN also learns that the source is the author of bigoted trash on his website. CNN doing its diligence, contacts the person to confirm the facts, and tells the dude they are doing a story about the origin of the Trump vs CNN video and will publish his identity and hometown and age, usual identifying details in stories such as this.

The dude, who is likely a family man who is a respected member of his community, has a great job with a company that needs the support of a diverse public, has a position at his church, and possibly has his eyes on a vacant city council seat, panics and arranges a deal with CNN. He offers to delete his website and never post anything like that again if CNN would PLEASE, PLEASE, not release his name.

I don't really know...but that is most likely what happened...
ZRX1200 Offline
#169 Posted: Thu, Jul 6 2017, 5:41 PM EST
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LMFAO.....Good one.

It was on Reddit btw, and he cleared his history there and his user name. Not some website he ran.
jjanecka Offline
#170 Posted: Thu, Jul 6 2017, 5:43 PM EST
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Hell Delta, he's probably been voted into congress by the Democrat party by now.
gummy jones Offline
#171 Posted: Thu, Jul 6 2017, 6:11 PM EST
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I'm just glad cnn is policing the internet and finally id'd the head honcho

The interwebs are safe again
delta1 Offline
#172 Posted: Thu, Jul 6 2017, 6:16 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
LMFAO.....Good one.

It was on Reddit btw, and he cleared his history there and his user name. Not some website he ran.



What's Readdit?




gummy jones wrote:
I'm just glad cnn is policing the internet and finally id'd the head honcho

The interwebs are safe again


Glad they finally put that Al Gore fella into a lockbox...
jjanecka Offline
#173 Posted: Thu, Jul 6 2017, 7:19 PM EST
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gummy jones wrote:
I'm just glad cnn is policing the internet and finally id'd the head honcho

The interwebs are safe again


This is just too damn funny
opelmanta1900 Offline
#174 Posted: Fri, Jul 7 2017, 10:53 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Nah he learns by arguing which is why he keeps moving the goalposts.

How dare you! I might make my days go by faster by arguing, but i will not remain silent whilst being accused of learning from it...
teedubbya Offline
#175 Posted: Fri, Jul 7 2017, 11:15 AM EST
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I'm sorry.

It is how I learn though. I rarely discount someone elses opinion even while arguing against it. The fence post thing is a badge of honor in here. While some in here think it's a virtue to stick to your opinion even when it's pretty well proven wrong, I'll change mine if you convince me.
gummy jones Offline
#176 Posted: Fri, Jul 7 2017, 11:18 AM EST
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jjanecka wrote:
This is just too damn funny


im just worried it may be too little too late
the butthurt is of epic proportions
Mr. Jones Offline
#177 Posted: Fri, Jul 7 2017, 11:30 AM EST
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#105 drafterx. meme? Makeup and hand features?
I though it was spelled mime?
opelmanta1900 Offline
#178 Posted: Fri, Jul 7 2017, 12:11 PM EST
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I like it when old people know how to use this forum but can't conduct a google search....
Mr. Jones Offline
#179 Posted: Fri, Jul 7 2017, 1:45 PM EST
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^^^ I love it when young people
LICK MY STARFISH and tell me what I WANT to know.
jjanecka Offline
#180 Posted: Fri, Jul 7 2017, 1:53 PM EST
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Damn Jonesy, you're makin me HOT!
Mr. Jones Offline
#181 Posted: Fri, Jul 7 2017, 2:18 PM EST
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BOIIIINNNNGGG
opelmanta1900 Offline
#182 Posted: Fri, Jul 7 2017, 2:58 PM EST
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Mr. Jones wrote:
^^^ I love it when young people
LICK MY STARFISH and tell me what I WANT to know.

you should throw that up on the craigslist personals, see what you land...
teedubbya Offline
#183 Posted: Fri, Jul 7 2017, 4:28 PM EST
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Secret Starfish Groupies?
DrafterX Offline
#184 Posted: Fri, Jul 7 2017, 7:37 PM EST
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Freak... Mellow
jjanecka Offline
#185 Posted: Sat, Jul 8 2017, 8:15 AM EST
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Add that to tinder. Faster results.
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