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DrafterX Offline
#1 Posted: Sat, Sep 23 2017, 11:00 AM EST
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President Trump on Saturday rescinded Golden State Warrior star Stephen Curry’s invitation to the White House, after Curry suggested he doesn’t want to go to the Washington event that will honor his team’s 2016-2017 NBA championship.


“Going to the White House is considered a great honor for a championship team. Stephen Curry is hesitating, therefore invitation is withdrawn!” Trump tweeted Saturday morning.


On Friday, Curry told ESPN that he doesn’t want to go the White House event but that the team will decide collectively.

He also seemed to suggest that not going would be part of the resist-Trump movement, saying the move would give the Warriors “an opportunity to send a statement that hopefully encourages unity, encourages us to appreciate what it means to be American, and stand for something.”

Whether Trump has rescinded just Curry or the entire team’s invitation is unclear.


Film at 11... Think


Is he trying to turn Curry's team against him..?? Think
dkeage Offline
#2 Posted: Sat, Sep 23 2017, 11:40 AM EST
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They just won't go. Any of them
teedubbya Offline
#3 Posted: Sat, Sep 23 2017, 12:10 PM EST
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I'll take wgaf for 500 Alex.
teedubbya Offline
#4 Posted: Sat, Sep 23 2017, 12:10 PM EST
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Or is to wrong forum for 500 Alex?
DrafterX Offline
#5 Posted: Sat, Sep 23 2017, 12:11 PM EST
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Trump didn't help himself... Again... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#6 Posted: Sat, Sep 23 2017, 12:15 PM EST
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Trumps a moron and always has been. People just want to beleive he's something different. He's the same guy I used to love listening to on the Howard Stern show because he was as a complete idiot like a.j. Benza but entertaining. It wasn't a character. It was really him. And still is.
victor809 Offline
#7 Posted: Sat, Sep 23 2017, 12:15 PM EST
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Our president acts like a 2nd grader...
teedubbya Offline
#8 Posted: Sat, Sep 23 2017, 12:16 PM EST
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Except the people supporting the 2nd grader wouldn't accept it let alone encourage it.

Curry is a douche too.
DrafterX Offline
#9 Posted: Sat, Sep 23 2017, 12:18 PM EST
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prolly wrong forum again... Mellow
DrafterX Offline
#10 Posted: Sat, Sep 23 2017, 12:19 PM EST
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Trump is the opposite of Politically correct.. it's somethin... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#11 Posted: Sat, Sep 23 2017, 12:27 PM EST
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If that's where you set the bar I guess so.

By the way, I really don't think this is a big deal one way or another.
DrafterX Offline
#12 Posted: Sat, Sep 23 2017, 12:43 PM EST
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You can't make somebody like you but you might get them to respect you.. Mellow
victor809 Offline
#13 Posted: Sat, Sep 23 2017, 2:01 PM EST
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... generally speaking, acting like a child does not get people to respect you...
DrafterX Offline
#14 Posted: Sat, Sep 23 2017, 2:06 PM EST
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They'll prolly fire Curry for messing up their visit to the Whitehouse... Mellow
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#15 Posted: Sat, Sep 23 2017, 2:57 PM EST
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#7 Victor

^^^ he's a "second grader" with a STILETTO QUEEN
for a wife...
JadeRose Offline
#16 Posted: Sat, Sep 23 2017, 4:47 PM EST
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Technically, the GSWs were never invited to the White House to begin with.
SteveS Offline
#17 Posted: Sat, Sep 23 2017, 5:52 PM EST
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for the GSWs to decline the invitation (if one is issued) is the equivalent of Kapernik kneeling during the anthem ... they've now lost any respect I might have ever had for them ...

I don't like Trump much and didn't vote for him, but were I a part of a team that was invited to the White House, I would accept the invite with pleasure ... I'm sure not all of the teams invited by Nixon, Clinton, GWB and Obama were supporters of those particular presidents, but they went and accepted the honor ...
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#18 Posted: Sat, Sep 23 2017, 6:03 PM EST
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individual players skipped out in the past.

recent memory of a big deal made about the Bruins goalie passing on and criticizing Obama, and Brady skipped out on his pal Trump a few months ago.

Probably have always been dissenters, but now both sides of the aisle are soooo sensitive.
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#19 Posted: Sat, Sep 23 2017, 6:04 PM EST
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sometimes it's been scheduling conflicts, I'd bet.
teedubbya Offline
#20 Posted: Sat, Sep 23 2017, 6:05 PM EST
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It's not a big deal either way.
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#21 Posted: Sat, Sep 23 2017, 6:09 PM EST
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not to me...though I'd go.
But I don't see it as being a requirement to invite or to attend.
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#22 Posted: Sat, Sep 23 2017, 6:25 PM EST
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Well, it's not like they made a clock or somethin.. Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#23 Posted: Sat, Sep 23 2017, 6:32 PM EST
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wasn't that a Mexican clock?
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#24 Posted: Sat, Sep 23 2017, 6:39 PM EST
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I think it was a hobby lobby clock the Afghan kid pretended to make.. Mellow
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#25 Posted: Sat, Sep 23 2017, 7:01 PM EST
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While not a serious fan I was excited for the Cavs this past season. LeBron fixed that for me. STFU dude.
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#26 Posted: Sat, Sep 23 2017, 7:40 PM EST
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The real morons are the owners for tolerating this behavior. Pro sports' ratings are down across the board. I'm sure there are a multitude of reasons. But, when one chooses to politicize one’s livelihood a losing battle ensues. Those who support said behavior are going to watch the games. The leagues may see a temporary spike upwards as the winds blow, but those new viewers aren't true fans and will quickly become ambivalent and tune back to what occupied that space before.

No net gain.

The net loss comes when the 40% or so fans who don't agree begin to tune out.

The players in their prime will be largely unaffected. They've already made or they are under contract to receive the vast majority of their earnings.

But, the owners as well as the future draft picks are going to see their fortunes suffer. Though tickets may be sold out now, when 20% or more of the seats are empty on Sunday there will be a hell of a lot of $12 a bottle beer and $20 hamburgers going unsold. Plus, the networks aren't going to continue paying the packages they are paying teams now when the advertising revenue drop due to viewership share loss.

Careful what you wish for.......
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#27 Posted: Sat, Sep 23 2017, 10:02 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
President Trump on Saturday rescinded Golden State Warrior star Stephen Curry’s invitation to the White House, after Curry suggested he doesn’t want to go to the Washington event that will honor his team’s 2016-2017 NBA championship.


“Going to the White House is considered a great honor for a championship team. Stephen Curry is hesitating, therefore invitation is withdrawn!” Trump tweeted Saturday morning.


On Friday, Curry told ESPN that he doesn’t want to go the White House event but that the team will decide collectively.

He also seemed to suggest that not going would be part of the resist-Trump movement, saying the move would give the Warriors “an opportunity to send a statement that hopefully encourages unity, encourages us to appreciate what it means to be American, and stand for something.”

Whether Trump has rescinded just Curry or the entire team’s invitation is unclear.


Film at 11... Think


Is he trying to turn Curry's team against him..?? Think


Politics Forum, Newb.
frankj1 Offline
#28 Posted: Sat, Sep 23 2017, 10:57 PM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
The real morons are the owners for tolerating this behavior. Pro sports' ratings are down across the board. I'm sure there are a multitude of reasons. But, when one chooses to politicize one’s livelihood a losing battle ensues. Those who support said behavior are going to watch the games. The leagues may see a temporary spike upwards as the winds blow, but those new viewers aren't true fans and will quickly become ambivalent and tune back to what occupied that space before.

No net gain.

The net loss comes when the 40% or so fans who don't agree begin to tune out.

The players in their prime will be largely unaffected. They've already made or they are under contract to receive the vast majority of their earnings.

But, the owners as well as the future draft picks are going to see their fortunes suffer. Though tickets may be sold out now, when 20% or more of the seats are empty on Sunday there will be a hell of a lot of $12 a bottle beer and $20 hamburgers going unsold. Plus, the networks aren't going to continue paying the packages they are paying teams now when the advertising revenue drop due to viewership share loss.

Careful what you wish for.......

I don't know. I think fans of each sport will remain.

Bruins fans didn't desert them after their goalie smeared Obama, and most of the B's fans have to be libs like the entire state.

I'd rather not know the politics of athletes or any other famous people for that matter, but once known, I react the same way as I do with friends, relatives and coworkers...I simply don't care. I like them for other reasons.
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#29 Posted: Sun, Sep 24 2017, 1:47 AM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
I don't know. I think fans of each sport will remain.

Bruins fans didn't desert them after their goalie smeared Obama, and most of the B's fans have to be libs like the entire state.

I'd rather not know the politics of athletes or any other famous people for that matter, but once known, I react the same way as I do with friends, relatives and coworkers...I simply don't care. I like them for other reasons.



Not saying that all the fans will turn their backs, but check out the falling ratings and pics of less t behan full stadiums. It is happening. It will be geographic. I wouldn't expect teams from blue areas to affected noticeably since for the most part they agree with the politics involved. But, in the more conservative markets its already happening.

In the past, it's been individualized and usually single incidents. This has become somewhat of a movement. IMHO I think this is a bit different. Who knows? Only Time will tell.
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#30 Posted: Sun, Sep 24 2017, 3:10 AM EST
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Not to ask the obvious... but is this a bad thing?
Seriously... professional sports has been getting a ridiculous amount of money and attention for the past 50 years (probably more) well beyond the value it brings to society.

Whether it's from athletes giving their political opinion or owners thinking a city should foot the bill on their stadium, maybe it is about time the populace realized these individuals are not contributing to society in any real measurable amount.
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#31 Posted: Sun, Sep 24 2017, 4:24 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Seriously... professional sports has been getting a ridiculous amount of money and attention for the past 50 years (probably more) well beyond the value it brings to society.

Your pansy ass liberal view is wrong again Vic.
Pro sports players from the 70's & 80's made a small fraction of what players make today, and many have to work regular jobs. Even below your pay grade, which explains your contempt for anyone you feel that's beneath you..

Commentate on soccer or rugby instead.
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#32 Posted: Sun, Sep 24 2017, 7:17 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Not to ask the obvious... but is this a bad thing?
Seriously... professional sports has been getting a ridiculous amount of money and attention for the past 50 years (probably more) well beyond the value it brings to society.
Whether it's from athletes giving their political opinion or owners thinking a city should foot the bill on their stadium, maybe it is about time the populace realized these individuals are not contributing to society in any real measurable amount.


That description describes perfectly the Hollywood crowd who seem to think their opinions matter because they've appeared in movies ... talk about getting ridiculous amounts of money and attention for doing something that brings little measurable value to society, could there be a more fitting description of little Leo DiCaprio or Alec Baldwin ?????
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#33 Posted: Sun, Sep 24 2017, 8:05 AM EST
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I think not accepting a white house invitation, and not standing for the national anthem are 2 very different actions. My reasons are as follows. Per say the white house visit is on personal time, not company time. There is no disrespect for our country, our soldiers, our police and fire fighters, and those that have died in the line of duty. Also, visiting the president is a political event.

So I feel any athlete sitting during the national anthem should be fined, suspended without pay, or fired. Where as not accepting an invitation to the white house should have no other actions associated with it.
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#34 Posted: Sun, Sep 24 2017, 8:44 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Not to ask the obvious... but is this a bad thing?
Seriously... professional sports has been getting a ridiculous amount of money and attention for the past 50 years (probably more) well beyond the value it brings to society.

Whether it's from athletes giving their political opinion or owners thinking a city should foot the bill on their stadium, maybe it is about time the populace realized these individuals are not contributing to society in any real measurable amount.


Always knew you were a liberal. Value to society?

Finally something we can agree on. When I found out that Louisiana was guaranteeing Tom Benson a minimum revenue I pretty much quit watching NFL football.

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#35 Posted: Sun, Sep 24 2017, 9:12 AM EST
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Trump ignites controversy with comments on NFL players
Democratic strategist Robert Patillo and GOP strategist Sean Noble react

President Trump on Sunday extended his attack on NFL players who kneel during the national anthem, and suggested fans boycott games as he continued his call for team owners to “fire or suspend” the offenders.


“If NFL fans refuse to go to games until players stop disrespecting our Flag & Country, you will see change take place fast,” Trump tweeted. "Fire or suspend!”


Several minutes later, he tweeted: "...NFL attendance and ratings are WAY DOWN. Boring games yes, but many stay away because they love our country. League should back U.S."


Trump started his criticism in earnest Friday night when he asked a crowd at a political rally in Alabama: "Wouldn't you love to see one of these NFL owners, when somebody disrespects our flag, to say 'get that son of a b ---- off the field right now? He's fired.'"


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#36 Posted: Sun, Sep 24 2017, 9:30 AM EST
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000849517/article/nfl-nflpa-respond-to-president-trumps-anthem-comments

Think
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#37 Posted: Sun, Sep 24 2017, 10:18 AM EST
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The NFL is making more money than ever.

Ironically the empty seats I see are in blue areas, and have nothing to do with this.

This won't hurt the NFL, NBA or now MLB. Concussions are a bigger threat to the NFL.
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#38 Posted: Sun, Sep 24 2017, 10:26 AM EST
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I'm gonna keep watching.. Mellow
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#39 Posted: Sun, Sep 24 2017, 10:47 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I'm gonna keep watching.. Mellow

Why do you hate America?
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#40 Posted: Sun, Sep 24 2017, 11:27 AM EST
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cacman wrote:
Your pansy ass liberal view is wrong again Vic.
Pro sports players from the 70's & 80's made a small fraction of what players make today, and many have to work regular jobs. Even below your pay grade, which explains your contempt for anyone you feel that's beneath you..

Commentate on soccer or rugby instead.


Your point is I was off by a few years and therefore must be wrong? I don't pay attention to sports and don't give a rats azz, but if you think they're paid a fair compensation and have been for the past 30 years (there, better?) then make that argument. I seriously don't care if I was wrong about the 70s and 80s or not. The main point still stands. They're paid too much.
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#41 Posted: Sun, Sep 24 2017, 11:29 AM EST
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SteveS wrote:
That description describes perfectly the Hollywood crowd who seem to think their opinions matter because they've appeared in movies ... talk about getting ridiculous amounts of money and attention for doing something that brings little measurable value to society, could there be a more fitting description of little Leo DiCaprio or Alec Baldwin ?????


I don't disagree there.... Musicians/bands/pop stars/whatever....

what's your point? Stop watching their stuff and they'll get paid less
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#42 Posted: Sun, Sep 24 2017, 12:32 PM EST
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That would work with musicians and actors.. Mellow
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#43 Posted: Sun, Sep 24 2017, 1:48 PM EST
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Dumpster fires and bum fights are interesting, too.
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#44 Posted: Sun, Sep 24 2017, 1:56 PM EST
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Why do you think you hang out in here?
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#45 Posted: Sun, Sep 24 2017, 2:00 PM EST
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I said they were interesting!
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#46 Posted: Sun, Sep 24 2017, 5:47 PM EST
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freak.. Mellow
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#47 Posted: Sun, Sep 24 2017, 7:43 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
not to me...though I'd go.
But I don't see it as being a requirement to invite or to attend.


Of course you would go.
And I would have gone to meet BHO when Tim Thomas bowed out.

But neither of us are whiny millionaire beotches.
I don't have enough money yet.
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#48 Posted: Sun, Sep 24 2017, 7:50 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Of course you would go.
And I would have gone to meet BHO when Tim Thomas bowed out.

But neither of us are whiny millionaire beotches.
I don't have enough money yet.



we should go together! bring beer and stuff.
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#49 Posted: Sun, Sep 24 2017, 7:55 PM EST
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I never got invited to a beer summit damnit..!! Mad


I was at the Capitol in DC to honor the Code Talkers.. Obama couldn't make it tho.. he was giving Oprah a greatest person in da world trophy on the other side of town... Pelosi made it tho.. called them code takers.. Mellow
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#50 Posted: Sun, Sep 24 2017, 7:55 PM EST
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Beer summit part deux.
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