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tailgater Offline
#51 Posted: Sun, Sep 24 2017, 7:56 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Pelosi made it tho.. called them code takers.. Mellow


LOL!
Is that true?
DrafterX Offline
#52 Posted: Sun, Sep 24 2017, 8:03 PM EST
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Yes.. in front of God and everybody.. Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#53 Posted: Sun, Sep 24 2017, 10:28 PM EST
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they were the Greatest Generation of Native Americans!
There should be a movie...without Robbie Benson
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#54 Posted: Sun, Sep 24 2017, 10:51 PM EST
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it appears the NFL players and owners have united a bit this weekend...Thanks Trump!
well that certainly backfired.
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#55 Posted: Mon, Sep 25 2017, 7:56 AM EST
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I don't know, Frank. Lots of people, including myself, have stopped watching.

Ratings are down. So is attendance.
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#56 Posted: Mon, Sep 25 2017, 8:04 AM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
it appears the NFL players and owners have united a bit this weekend...Thanks Trump!
well that certainly backfired.


Yep, but you forgot to mention the fan tweets about being disgusted.

From February 1984 - May 1985 I was a shipmate of a young man from your neck of the woods. His name was Nicholas V. Barei. About a week after I PCS'd off the Chase, Nick lost his life in the service of this country. The flag these rich brats are protesting is the same flag that flies over his grave.


I'd say a little more, but I'd get the hammer.
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#57 Posted: Mon, Sep 25 2017, 8:08 AM EST
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As long as players are kneeling I am not watching.
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#58 Posted: Mon, Sep 25 2017, 8:08 AM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
Yep, but you forgot to mention the fan tweets about being disgusted.

From February 1984 - May 1985 I was a shipmate of a young man from your neck of the woods. His name was Nicholas V. Barei. About a week after I PCS'd off the Chase, Nick lost his life in the service of this country. The flag these rich brats are protesting is the same flag that flies over his grave.


I'd say a little more, but I'd get the hammer.

the same flag that he died for covers all of us...
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#59 Posted: Mon, Sep 25 2017, 9:18 AM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
the same flag that he died for covers all of us...


I agree. All the more reason to honor those who gave their lives so those pu$$ies can be free. This entire movement started because a brat was pissed off because he got benched.
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#60 Posted: Mon, Sep 25 2017, 9:28 AM EST
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Frank, I don't see this as a freedom of speech issue. It us a work related issue. Most employers do not allow promotion of religion or politics by their employees while at work, or in connection with work. I would think this certainly has political connotations.
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#61 Posted: Mon, Sep 25 2017, 9:32 AM EST
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Speyside wrote:
Frank, I don't see this as a freedom of speech issue. It us a work related issue. Most employers do not allow promotion of religion or politics by their employees while at work, or in connection with work. I would think this certainly has political connotations.



Agreed.....and AGREE COMPLETELY
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#62 Posted: Mon, Sep 25 2017, 1:25 PM EST
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59, 60, 61...

I have no argument to say you gents are wrong.

I have heard and read many quotes from guys on The Patriots last night and this morning, To a man, they spoke of loving this country, having pride and gratitude toward our military/police/firefighters, loving the flag and realizing only our greatness could allow what they are doing, no where else would they be given the opportunities they have been given in life, etc.

Several spoke of having immediate family serving in the military.

They are concerned it looks different than that to many other citizens.

However, I wouldn't do it.

Spey did make me think of a question because it is a workplace...we are not asked to rise for the Anthem nor say the Pledge where I work. Anyone here have that experience?
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#63 Posted: Mon, Sep 25 2017, 9:06 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
59, 60, 61...

I have no argument to say you gents are wrong.

I have heard and read many quotes from guys on The Patriots last night and this morning, To a man, they spoke of loving this country, having pride and gratitude toward our military/police/firefighters, loving the flag and realizing only our greatness could allow what they are doing, no where else would they be given the opportunities they have been given in life, etc.

Several spoke of having immediate family serving in the military.

They are concerned it looks different than that to many other citizens.

However, I wouldn't do it.

Spey did make me think of a question because it is a workplace...we are not asked to rise for the Anthem nor say the Pledge where I work. Anyone here have that experience?




Sounds more like crocodile tears to me. Obviously, they didn't anticipate the backlash. I'm going to bet they now realize the damage they did and are trying to put a spin on it.

Not sure the relevance of the work place anthem. But, if their employer requires it then they have two choices, comply or take a walk and don't let the door hit them on the a$$ on the way out.
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#64 Posted: Mon, Sep 25 2017, 11:22 PM EST
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What backlash? Don't co fuse this echo chamber for the real world. I'm thinking the Patriots will be ok.

And ownership is obviously supportive as well. I know I'm crossing threads (because for some reason this topic is really upsetting and important to folks in here so there are multiple threads about this totally non important outrage ..... ) but their hand book... blah blah blah....


The President needs to stay out of this crap. Y'all thought Obama should have stayed out of such things (correctly in my opinion).

If you want to boycott go for it. The NFL will be fine.
teedubbya Offline
#65 Posted: Mon, Sep 25 2017, 11:24 PM EST
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And the cowboys did it right.
tailgater Offline
#66 Posted: Tue, Sep 26 2017, 9:45 AM EST
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Before she became a director, my wife was a preschool teacher for the Head Start program here in Massachusetts.
Kids from difficult family circumstances, mostly.

There are periods of time here in New England where the weather is uncooperative for many days or sometimes a week or more at a time. No outdoor activities. A lot of pent up feelings.

So they would find a way to allow a safe "free for all" type of activity so the little brats could let it all out.

That's what we need for the NFL players.
So the whiny brats can let it all out.
teedubbya Offline
#67 Posted: Tue, Sep 26 2017, 9:53 AM EST
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I think this forum provides the same for many in here.
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#68 Posted: Tue, Sep 26 2017, 9:55 AM EST
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juice & cookies would be nice... Mellow
tailgater Offline
#69 Posted: Tue, Sep 26 2017, 9:55 AM EST
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Jews and cookies?
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#70 Posted: Tue, Sep 26 2017, 1:14 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Before she became a director, my wife was a preschool teacher for the Head Start program here in Massachusetts.
Kids from difficult family circumstances, mostly.

There are periods of time here in New England where the weather is uncooperative for many days or sometimes a week or more at a time. No outdoor activities. A lot of pent up feelings.

So they would find a way to allow a safe "free for all" type of activity so the little brats could let it all out.

That's what we need for the NFL players.
So the whiny brats can let it all out.





that's what Sunday's are for (and sometimes Monday night and Thursday night)
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#71 Posted: Tue, Sep 26 2017, 1:14 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I think this forum provides the same for many in here.

it does for me
tailgater Offline
#72 Posted: Tue, Sep 26 2017, 5:21 PM EST
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Did Frank just say "do me"?
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#73 Posted: Tue, Sep 26 2017, 6:53 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Did Frank just say "do me"?


close. They say it.
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#74 Posted: Tue, Sep 26 2017, 8:17 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
What backlash? Don't co fuse this echo chamber for the real world. I'm thinking the Patriots will be ok.

And ownership is obviously supportive as well. I know I'm crossing threads (because for some reason this topic is really upsetting and important to folks in here so there are multiple threads about this totally non important outrage ..... ) but their hand book... blah blah blah....


The President needs to stay out of this crap. Y'all thought Obama should have stayed out of such things (correctly in my opinion).

If you want to boycott go for it. The NFL will be fine.


My mistake. Only a half dozen CBidders are upset and boycotting the NFL. Everyone else in America is cool with it.
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#75 Posted: Wed, Sep 27 2017, 5:46 AM EST
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I've been boycotting the NFL ever since the NFL sold exclusive rights to Electronic Arts to make their video games. I also boycott EA for the same reason.
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#76 Posted: Wed, Sep 27 2017, 6:47 AM EST
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you guys sure get upset easy... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#77 Posted: Wed, Sep 27 2017, 6:52 AM EST
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Abrig the NFL is making money hand over fist. There won't be any appreciable boycott even though some in here state they won't watch. They'll be fine unless the concussion issue gets them but that will take time.

And the outrage is louder in this far right echo chamber than the real world. Something shiny will distract soon anyway.

It is fun to see a politically correct issue y'all can get behind though.
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#78 Posted: Wed, Sep 27 2017, 6:56 AM EST
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Someone said somethin that made me wonder tho... was Kaperdick really protesting with BLM in mind or was he really just pouting... can you imagine if the BLM just came out his mouth to cover his ass when asked about sitting.. d'oh!
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#79 Posted: Wed, Sep 27 2017, 7:13 AM EST
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It's amazing to me folks can't just accept what he says and think they know better what someone is really thinking. I guess it's easier to win arguments if you can define what people think and argue with that rather than argue with what they are really saying.
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#80 Posted: Wed, Sep 27 2017, 7:14 AM EST
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And if you make something up to discredit them you don't have to consider their message at all.


Someone said drafter is ghey.
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#81 Posted: Wed, Sep 27 2017, 7:31 AM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
The real morons are the owners for tolerating this behavior. Pro sports' ratings are down across the board. I'm sure there are a multitude of reasons. But, when one chooses to politicize one’s livelihood a losing battle ensues. Those who support said behavior are going to watch the games. The leagues may see a temporary spike upwards as the winds blow, but those new viewers aren't true fans and will quickly become ambivalent and tune back to what occupied that space before.

No net gain.

The net loss comes when the 40% or so fans who don't agree begin to tune out.

The players in their prime will be largely unaffected. They've already made or they are under contract to receive the vast majority of their earnings.

But, the owners as well as the future draft picks are going to see their fortunes suffer. Though tickets may be sold out now, when 20% or more of the seats are empty on Sunday there will be a hell of a lot of $12 a bottle beer and $20 hamburgers going unsold. Plus, the networks aren't going to continue paying the packages they are paying teams now when the advertising revenue drop due to viewership share loss.

Careful what you wish for.......


People tune in to Sports to tune out everything else. Politics, personal issues,work...it's a diversion. Always has been always will be. Mixing shouldn't be allowed. Want to protest? Do it on your own time. Want to kneel? Make sure it's worth it first of all and then do it on your own time. I don't want to see that B$ on tv. I've pretty much cut out Sports but still like to relax and watch a competitive game. To be perfectly honest the last 5 years I've watched the NHL more than any other Sport...COMBINED. I just don't have the time to devote to the pixelated box. That said, when multimillionaire athletes feel the need to tell you more than what deodorant to use...turn off the box.

That's what I'm doing. Not out of some boycott...because I'm bored with the blurred attack. Don't have time for it. Have a good Super Bowl...I didn't watch the last one either!
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#82 Posted: Wed, Sep 27 2017, 7:46 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
It's amazing to me folks can't just accept what he says and think they know better what someone is really thinking. I guess it's easier to win arguments if you can define what people think and argue with that rather than argue with what they are really saying.



Do you have an imagination at all..?? Not talking
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#83 Posted: Wed, Sep 27 2017, 8:17 AM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
People tune in to Sports to tune out everything else. Politics, personal issues,work...it's a diversion. Always has been always will be. Mixing shouldn't be allowed. Want to protest? Do it on your own time. Want to kneel? Make sure it's worth it first of all and then do it on your own time. I don't want to see that B$ on tv. I've pretty much cut out Sports but still like to relax and watch a competitive game. To be perfectly honest the last 5 years I've watched the NHL more than any other Sport...COMBINED. I just don't have the time to devote to the pixelated box. That said, when multimillionaire athletes feel the need to tell you more than what deodorant to use...turn off the box.

That's what I'm doing. Not out of some boycott...because I'm bored with the blurred attack. Don't have time for it. Have a good Super Bowl...I didn't watch the last one either!

it is a diversion for me, and I'll move on from the politics and watch it for sport enjoyment.

I may be wrong, but other than a few special pregame military salutes, I don't recall the anthem being televised much if at all for several years now...lost advertising revenue opportunity I always figured. Money over Country for the owners...yawn.

And I just gotta tell ya Doc, you missed the greatest comeback in the history of Super Bowls last year!
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#84 Posted: Wed, Sep 27 2017, 8:48 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Do you have an imagination at all..?? Not talking


Why does TW hate John Lennon?
teedubbya Offline
#85 Posted: Wed, Sep 27 2017, 9:48 AM EST
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It's those silly glasses
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#86 Posted: Wed, Sep 27 2017, 9:51 AM EST
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Laugh


course he's dead now.. Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#87 Posted: Wed, Sep 27 2017, 10:15 AM EST
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pretty soon he would have been dead anyway so it won't matter. We just need to go by ringo and paul.
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#88 Posted: Wed, Sep 27 2017, 10:22 AM EST
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they said WGAF... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#89 Posted: Wed, Sep 27 2017, 10:23 AM EST
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All they are saying is give pizza a chance
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#90 Posted: Wed, Sep 27 2017, 10:24 AM EST
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Pizza is full of carbs and bloats you up...Not talking
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