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US votes against UN resolution condemning death penalty for same gay sex joining the fine countries of Iraq and Saudi Arabia. Doesn't that make you proud of the Trump administration. Sorry people I have tried to respect his presidency, but he doesn't deserve my respect.

and what was it gonna cost us in dollars to agree with the UN..??

But the saudis let him touch the cool glowing orb. Why wouldn't he vote with them?

THIS ^^^ and what about context???


"We voted against that resolution because of broader concerns about the resolution's approach to condemning the death penalty in all circumstances; and, it called for the abolition of the death penalty altogether," Nauert said. "We had hoped for a balanced and inclusive resolution that would better reflect the positions of states that continue to apply the death penalty lawfully, as the United States does."

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/state-department-defends-us-vote-against-death-penalty-ban-at-the-un/article/2636429

if only the op were stating the jist of the overall bill, not a single bullet point on homosexuality and apostasy

here is the actual resolution (as far as i can tell)

http://ilga.org/downloads/HRC36_resolution_question_death_penalty.pdf

no, it isnt just "should gays be killed," it is essentially a recommended ban on the death penalty the world over for any cause and there was a similar vote under obama/rice as i understand it

but its hard to turn all facts into trump bashing so facts sometimes have to be invented

In other words you're keeping the fence warm while TW is away...

Being able to read and make assessments for oneself is an important skill. You should try it some day.

.... didn't know you flew there too Drafter.

I heard Teedubbya is bringing Drafter back some Spotted Dick

Let's shut that bitch down.

Kinda sounds like Auschwitz if you ask me.

Wow... really? I'd say your disdain for the majority of this community would be the perfect reason to stop frequenting it.

Nobody here wants to kill gays.

Whatever dude, it's not that big a deal.

Um...maybe because he doesn't get off on making broad brush inflammatory remarks just to stir the pot....maybe.

Close enough Chris...

Faith in humanity, I suppose... which is odd, considering what I do for a living. I am surrounded by criminals at work. But lets not forget, at best, they represent 3% of society.

Extrapolate that and assume that 97% of society follow the rules enough not to get arrested. Most people are good people. You had one crazed lunatic shoot up a crowd, but you had hundreds helping others and even more donating time, blood, and resources, some helping in the middle of the chaos.

I'm not a gambler, but my odds of being correct are better than yours.

Valid point, though I still say the majority are good. Even most of the bad ones don't want to kill people.

That would only be you, especially if they allowed the death penalty for the homeless and public defecation.

to you and i, this stuff is simple

to these lifelong weasels it is round and round she goes

a mix of wanting to look like you are doing something to your constituents and donors but not pissing off your allies or whatever the protected class/social cause of the day is

i am not against the death penalty and feel it should be used more often. some people, despite every opportunity in the world, show that they just cant play nice in the sandbox. with the recidivism rate being what it is for crimes against children, women, etc, i have no problem with permanent removal of certain people from society. i would venture almost no americans put homosexuals or poor or apostates in that group (although the super staunch pro abortion proponents who want further death of babies to "help" the poor may sway the numbers away from "almost no" in that regard).

once again, i am not a fan of pushing forward a bad bill/law/resolution so we can pat ourselves on the back that we "did something."

we, or at least i, are/am not complicit in the human rights crimes of other countries.

it is really hard to be a big fan of multiculturalism when it fits a prescribed narrative but not when it doesnt fit another. the first step is to thank the good Lord that you live in america - the greatest nation the world has ever seen. the second is to realize that our culture is better than others, especially those that persecute gays, women, Christians/other religions, etc and work to improve those cultures so the citizens can enjoy the freedoms we do.

a good quote from one of the people i admire most and would love to meet

[not directed at speyside]

"The problem isn't that Johnny can't read. The problem isn't even that Johnny can't think. The problem is that Johnny doesn't know what thinking is; he confuses it with feeling."
-Thomas Sowell

I like him, too. That's a great quote... I'ma steal that one.

MACS... what would law abiding have to do with this at all? Or even the concept of "good". I would argue that there are people who have strong religious convictions which make them believe that there should be laws in this country making homosexuality punishable by death. There are public figures out there on the right who state as much. This board leans very right. It is not a stretch to think that some percentage (I didn't say all I said some) of people here have heard those public figures speak and thought "that makes sense.... bible says we should stone them".

As for tcby... "broad strokes"? Do you understand the definition of the word "some"? It's like every time you open your mouth you have to be wrong about something.

Gene... i would strongly support the death penalty for public defecation. Let's go full Singapore on this mutha f-er.

And what about his brother Jimmy?
I heard that he cracked corn.
But I don't care.

Muslim countries dish out the death penalty for more than just being gay.

Gay... death
Blasphemy... death
Atheism... death (subset of blasphemy?)
Apostasy... death
Infidelity... death
Women gets raped... death of the woman (not sure how they came to this conclusion)
Shaming... death

etc...

I'll give them this, even though they breed like rats, they do manage to keep their numbers in check :D

Delta, I agree.
But (there's always a butt) the US has the death penalty. How could we endorse a resolution that forbids it?