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DrafterX Offline
#1 Posted: Thu, Oct 5 2017, 12:40 PM EST
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unto those that will listen anyways... Mellow



Democratic Sen. Tim Kaine is getting fact-checked for claiming the Las Vegas shooter was “only” stopped because he did not have a silencer on his guns.

The Virginia senator made the comments to The Washington Post on Monday, as his 2016 running mate Hillary Clinton made similar remarks – taking to Twitter to imagine how much deadlier the massacre might have been if silencers had been used.

“He only was stopped finally because he didn’t have a silencer on his weapon,” Kaine told The Washington Post. “And the sound drew people to the place where he was ultimately stopped. Can you imagine what this would have been if he’d had silencers on these weapons?”


Both Clinton and Kaine brought up silencers, or suppressors, out of concern that Congress was poised to approve legislation making it easier to get the devices. (The vote still has not been scheduled.)

But The Washington Post Fact Checker gave Kaine “Two Pinocchios” for his comments.

In a lengthy examination of the claims, the Post touched on several arguments critics made to challenge Clinton’s original Twitter comments – namely, that suppressors do not actually silence a weapon and might not have done much to mask the sound of the Las Vegas shooter’s hotel-room arsenal.

“Various reports have indicated that the Las Vegas shooter had AR-15-type rifles. A 30-decibel reduction means an AR-15 rifle would have a noise equivalent of 132 decibels. That is considered equivalent to a gunshot or a jackhammer,” the Post wrote.

The fact check noted that suppressors “may make it more difficult to locate the source of a sound,” and reported Kaine’s staff said that’s what the senator was talking about. Kaine’s staff noted guests and police reporting how they heard the noise of the gunfire.

“Senator Kaine was making the case that the gunman was stopped when he was because the police were able to locate him on the 32nd floor of the hotel based on the sound of the gunshots,” spokeswoman Sarah Peck told the Post.

But the same column noted that officials located the gunman based on the trajectory of the shots as well.

“Paddock then gave himself away when he fired at a security guard checking rooms on the 32nd floor,” the Post wrote.

The column concluded: “We will accept his staff’s explanation that he meant that silencers muffle a gunshot’s source, even though his phrasing certainly sounded like he meant that silencers actually made firearms quiet. … But in any case, the evidence does not support Kaine’s claim that the shooter was ‘only stopped’ because he did not have suppressors on his weapons. … The crowd under attack might have had trouble establishing the location of the shooter if he had silencers, but he fired from a hotel filled with guests who almost certainly would have heard 132 decibels from the floors above and below the attack.”


Film at 11... Not talking
DrMaddVibe Offline
#2 Posted: Thu, Oct 5 2017, 1:30 PM EST
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And people have the guts to say Trump is stupid.
delta1 Offline
#3 Posted: Thu, Oct 5 2017, 1:57 PM EST
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...it's possible that there are other stupid people besides Trump...
Ewok126 Offline
#4 Posted: Thu, Oct 5 2017, 2:07 PM EST
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Posts: 4,356
DrMaddVibe wrote:
And people have the guts to say Trump is stupid.



IKR? I mean what blows my mind is back when I was young and when and if I was to talk out my ass, My father would tell me. Go look it up, Read about it, Research it then that way you will not look like a total idiot talking about something you know nothing about. Now here we are in 2017 and a Democratic Sen. cant take 5 minutes to hit up MR Google before yapping off at the chops talking about some stupid shit he knows nothing about.

Its just another example of someone trying to twist real facts for their own agenda. The facts that are stated about sound suppressors or silencers are correct. It would not have made a difference in locating the shooter.

just for information a decibel level of 85 can cause permanent damage. I have seen techs fired for blowing out a whopping 100 decibel sound during a BARE (Brain-stem Auditory Evoked Response) test while the patient was sedated for tumor removal

At 140 decibels, immediate nerve damage can occur.
at 130 decibles, less than 1 second exposure nerve damage can occur.

This is just to give a basic idea of how loud they are speaking of in the facts of the article. ThumpUp
Ewok126 Offline
#5 Posted: Thu, Oct 5 2017, 2:10 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
...it's possible that there are other stupid people besides Trump...



LOL its not possible, Its a fact

Hell, I am one of them Lmaooooooo
Mr. Jones Offline
#6 Posted: Thu, Oct 5 2017, 3:48 PM EST
Joined: 06-12-2005
Posts: 19,421
That
Senator Tim Kaine is one STUPID MUTHER*****ER...

I HOPE THE CANDIDATE I SAVED this past April of 2016 can shut this guy up, he is an IDJIT.
ZRX1200 Offline
#7 Posted: Thu, Oct 5 2017, 3:49 PM EST
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They are supressors, NO SILENCERS.

Some people shouldn't be allowed to watch movies, vote or run for office apparently.

Yeah, nobody would have noticed the busted out window.
delta1 Offline
#8 Posted: Thu, Oct 5 2017, 4:13 PM EST
Joined: 11-23-2011
Posts: 28,778
or muzzle flashes in the night...or the fire alarm going off in his room from the gun smoke...


Good for WAPo...even they couldn't go along when someone on their side gets it wrong, this badly...Fake News isn't always fake...
Mr. Jones Offline
#9 Posted: Thu, Oct 5 2017, 4:15 PM EST
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Posts: 19,421
This TIM KAINE douchebag extraordinaire .....

M.U.S.T.
BE GETTING "many" REALLY THICK NO.10 business envelopes with BOO-KOO bucks from the DNC....

TO BE THEIR MORONIC "go to" IDJIT and make these
Idiotic DEMOCRATIC TALKING POINT STATEMENTS...

BECAUSE IF HE ISN'T "getting massive thick No.10
Envelopes" FULL OF CASH....

HE IS DUMBER THAN I THOUGHT....

What a MORON that guy is...

He's "par" with Sarah Palin ( but at least she'd skull **** you for the CASH and say anything you tell her to)....just sayin' & stuff...
delta1 Offline
#10 Posted: Thu, Oct 5 2017, 4:19 PM EST
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Palin couldn't possibly give good head.............there's nothing in hers...it'd be like sticking it in a paper bag...
Brewha Offline
#11 Posted: Thu, Oct 5 2017, 5:11 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
And people have the guts to say Trump is stupid.

I can write it too if you like......
TMCTLT Offline
#12 Posted: Fri, Oct 6 2017, 9:47 AM EST
Joined: 11-22-2007
Posts: 19,733
ZRX1200 wrote:
They are supressors, NO SILENCERS.

Some people shouldn't be allowed to watch movies, vote or run for office apparently.

Yeah, nobody would have noticed the busted out window.



Or people falling over in droves...bloodied

Tim Kaine is a MORON....I thought we'd cleared that up during the election.....
TMCTLT Offline
#13 Posted: Fri, Oct 6 2017, 9:52 AM EST
Joined: 11-22-2007
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delta1 wrote:
Palin couldn't possibly give good head.............there's nothing in hers...it'd be like sticking it in a paper bag...



Wow your hatred of her runs deep doesn't it AL. Your sickening

BTW, which state was it again that YOU Governed?
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